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The Codfather - Fish 'n Chips

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charlieboy May 25, 2007 03:59 PM

I just love this place. I know its a really corny name but for anyone looking for an authentic English "chippy" this is the place to go.
They used to be up in Fountain Hills. They've since moved and now have two locations one on Bell and 16th, the other is on 3361 W. Greenway. I've only been to the one on Bell (where the owners are) and the food is great. Being a Brit its not so easy to find a taste of home around these parts - other than the Pasty place in Tempe (which is also great!).
You can either take out or eat there - we always eat there. There are two types of fish to choose from, cod or haddock, both are delicious. They also have a few other British things to choose from but I'm more than happy with the fish and chips. The batter on the fish is nice and crispy and the fish on the inside is perfectly cooked. The chips are made from fresh (not frozen) potatoes and with the right amount of salt and vinegar are just lovely.
They have the British Heinz beans as a side as well as mushy peas. I find the peas a bit on the watery side.
We've now been going there once a week and its starting to get very crowded. Saturday nights are all the cod you can eat for $9.99 - just the cod, not chips. They also have a card that they stamp, buy 9 combos (Fish,Chips and a drink) and you get the 10th one free. I highly recommend trying it. Maybe it would be a good place for a chowhound get-together!
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  1. Bill Hunt RE: charlieboy May 25, 2007 08:45 PM

    There was a recent writeup in the Arizona Repugnant, err, the Republic. I would imagine that they will become even busier, as a result.

    Out of curiosity, have you done the Fish n' Chips at George & Dragon on Central? I'd rate them highly, just above Rula Bula, Tempe. Other than O'Neil's, Shepard's Market, Mayfair, London and the Brickskaller in Washington DC (Embassy Row), theirs have been the best that I have had in years.

    Gotta' try Codfather, especially as they are close to me - saw them on the way to a Fed-X store in the same center, and thought, "interesting name. Chain?"

    In UK, I usually do a pint of cider with my Fish n' Chips. Do they have anything, besides the normal soft-drinks?

    Thanks for the report.

    Hunt

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      orangetravelcat RE: Bill Hunt May 26, 2007 05:32 PM

      We had lunch at the Codfather today. Two orders of the fish, chips and soda combo came to about $16.00. We both thought the food was very good, although we preferred the fish and chips we had at the Skyptical Chemist (forgive my spelling) in Scottsdale. However, we will definitely go back to the Codfather.

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        Bill Hunt RE: orangetravelcat May 26, 2007 06:39 PM

        I've also seen a bunch of recs. for SC for fish n' chips, but have not tried it - Tempe? We'll definitely do Codfather and a complete report. Hope that they have cider, or allow BYO[Cider].

        Thanks,
        Hunt

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          johnseberg RE: Bill Hunt May 26, 2007 07:07 PM

          Are you asking if http://www.skepticalchymist.com is in Tempe? It is in Scottsdale near Frank Lloyd Wright and the 101. I believe it's sister, http://www.fibbermageespub.com is near Tempe, but, actually in Chandler at the intersection of Dobson and Elliot. I thought the Fish N Chips at Fibber Magee's was good, but, I was put off by a bad odor on the premises.

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            Bill Hunt RE: johnseberg May 26, 2007 07:17 PM

            Thanks. Not that far, time-wise, from me. Maybe I can do a weekend of nothing but fish n' chips and sample several.

            Appreciated,
            Hunt

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            azhotdish RE: Bill Hunt May 27, 2007 10:27 PM

            If you want cider with your fish n' chips, I'd recommend British Open Pub at Scottsdale/McDowell. It's a dark English pub that isn't quite in SC's league for scene, but their sausage rolls and fish n' chips have kept me going back for the last few years.

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          charlieboy RE: Bill Hunt May 27, 2007 09:58 PM

          No, I've not tried any other places for fish & chips in the Valley. We're so pleased with Codfather's and its only 10 mins from where we live, that and the fact that the owners are so nice as well, that we're happy giving them our business. The price is right too around $7.50 for a combo meal - fish, chips and a soft drink. They don't have anything besides soft drinks but Mark and Ruth (the owners) were saying that they'd like to get a liquor license so they can sell British beers. I wonder whether they'd allow BYO - I'll ask next time I'm there and report back. No, its not a "chain" - thank goodness!

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          kindofabigdeal RE: charlieboy May 28, 2007 08:55 AM

          I've been to both locations, once each. I think it is good, but not great. The fish was a bit chewy, and the crust couldn't stay with the fish. The flavor was very good though. The chips are right on for what I expect in a British chippie. I also thoroughly enjoyed the mushy peas, but that's not everyone's cup of tea. I never hit any of the pubs for fish and chips, so i can't compare anything.

          1. azhotdish RE: charlieboy Jun 22, 2007 08:57 PM

            I had a nice dinner with my dad tonight at Four Peaks in Tempe. I've always been a big fan of their fish and chips, and have often recommended them. Tonight they did not disappoint - fresh tasting, flaky cod in a Kiltlifter beer batter. Their fries, as always, were piping hot and delicious, made even better by the moderately spicy chipotle ranch. They have a cask-conditioned IPA that is real nice with them, which was even better at $2.75/pint happy hour prices. So, if you've only been to the FLW Four Peaks and never been to Tempe, take the time and check it out!

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              desertjulz RE: charlieboy Oct 12, 2007 09:44 AM

              We went to Codfather after receiving plenty of ads, got a coupon and was excited to try it. We w ent to the one on Greenway and they had a sign on the door that they had run out of Tartar Sauce!!! Unbelievable!!! So we left! I don't see why they just didn't go to the grocery store and make some up! So I still havn't tried it! Now my coupon is expired.

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                silverbear RE: desertjulz Oct 12, 2007 09:47 AM

                At least a sign was on the door. To me, that would be an appreciated courtesy. It's better than ordering and then being told after the fact that no sauce is available, which is what I think a lesser restaurant might do.

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                  rxenergie RE: desertjulz Oct 12, 2007 10:35 AM

                  It's not that unbelieveable, and like silverbear said, at least they provided you with a heads up. You could have also sampled their food with vinegar, or better, if you are truly a fan of tartar, gone back the next day. I haven't tried the Codfather yet, but look forward to soon.

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                  The Codfather
                  1618 E Bell Rd Ste 101, Phoenix, AZ 85022

                  Codfather II
                  3361 W Greenway Rd, Phoenix, AZ

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                    charlieboy RE: rxenergie Oct 12, 2007 10:28 PM

                    Here's an update.....they've now closed the Greenway location and are expanding the Bell Road location. Ruth and Mark told me they've applied for a beer license so hopefully that will come through soon.

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                    joninaz RE: desertjulz Oct 12, 2007 10:49 PM

                    Tarter sauce? The traditional way to eat this dish is with copius amouns of salt and vinegar.

                    I shamed the family as a young, yank-raised kid, asking for ketchup - but they'd appease me. Me thinks asking for tarter sauce would have pushed things too far.

                    In the UK, for many years, this dish was served wrapped up in old newspapers. The hot oil mixed with pulp and newsprint added a whole new flavor dimension, which became abolished during the PC movement. Douse that with loads of salt and vinegar and it was a greasy mess of heaven.

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                      silverbear RE: joninaz Oct 13, 2007 05:11 AM

                      Good point. I think at other fish and chips places like Knock Kneed Lobster, tartar sauce may be available, but it's not emphasized over other condiments such as malt vinegar or their incredible Louisiana hot sauce. As Montgomery Burns said once on the Simpsons, "Let the fools have their tar-tar sauce!" (desertjulz -- not trying to imply that you're a fool for liking tartar sauce. Everyone is entitled to his or her likes and dislikes. I just like the quote and think that it might express the attitude of fish-and-chips traditionalists.)

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                        azhotdish RE: joninaz Oct 13, 2007 03:19 PM

                        British Open in Scottsdale serves their fish & chips in newspaper, and malt vinegar is the condiment of choice.

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                          azhotdish RE: azhotdish Oct 13, 2007 03:19 PM

                          place link...

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                          British Open English Pub & Grl
                          1334 N Scottsdale Rd, Scottsdale, AZ 85257

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                            johnseberg RE: azhotdish Oct 13, 2007 06:28 PM

                            The British Open has my favorite Fish 'n Chips in the greater Phoenix area.

                            I went to Skeptical Chymist, today, and it wasn't so good. About the same as I had at the sister place, Fibber Magees. I've also tried Foster's, Codfather, and Four Peaks. The British Open is the clear winner, IMO.

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                              azhotdish RE: johnseberg Oct 13, 2007 06:49 PM

                              I'm with you in regards to British Open - I think they edge out Four Peaks just judging on fish alone, although both versions are excellent.

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                                ccl1111 RE: azhotdish Oct 13, 2007 08:46 PM

                                have you guys been there recently? we were there twice within the past month and the batter on the fish & chips was super thick. kind of a bummer. no newspaper in sight either.

                                have been going there for years and kind of forgot about it for about a year (new babies). know they changed ownership about a year or two back.

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                                  johnseberg RE: ccl1111 Oct 13, 2007 11:09 PM

                                  It's probably been a couple of months, for me. I agree that the batter is thicker than I'd like it to be, but, the quality of the fish has made up for it, and it hasn't been overcooked, or greasy.

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                      puddleonfire RE: charlieboy Sep 20, 2009 11:27 AM

                      Yep The Codfather has the best and most authentic British fish n chips in the Phoenix area. Some things have changed since that post in 2007.....I think the Greenway location is closed, so just the 16th & Bell location. They recently expanded to include a nice bar, so yo can have a cider or a beer with your fish n chips! Happy hour daily 3-6pm. The also have bangers n mash, bubble n squeak, mushy peas and some other classic British dishes on the menu.
                      Everything is cooked fresh to order. Ask for extra crispy on the fish! They still have all you can eat cod on Saturdays for $9.99 and is totally recommended. They also serve haddock, salmon, tilapia and sometimes some market-fresh others posted on the white board.
                      British groceries are also on offer such as the elusive Heinz salad cream. Check the website for more details at http://www.thecodfatheraz.com/

                      1. johnseberg RE: charlieboy Jul 26, 2010 12:26 PM

                        I don't think I had been to the Codfather on Bell, and my one and only experience of the Greenway location (closed) was just okay.

                        Having read a negative rant about this place, recently, it was in my mind (no publicity is bad publicity). Last Saturday, I decided to try the Bell location. I had a large Cod 'N Chips. It was pretty bad. The cod was tough, and the coating was greasy, like the oil was not hot enough. The chips were cold.

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                        The Codfather
                        1618 E Bell Rd Ste 101, Phoenix, AZ 85022

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                          Bill Hunt RE: johnseberg Jul 30, 2010 08:37 PM

                          Sounds like everything about "fish and chips" was bad. That is not good news.

                          Thanks for the review.

                          When done well, fish and chips can be a great dish, but there are many places that one can stumble.

                          Hunt

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                            aricat RE: johnseberg Jul 30, 2010 11:16 PM

                            Unfortunately, I must agree with johnseberg. I desperately want to like this place, as it is close to where I live and I love good fish and chips. Moreover, the prices are reasonable, the staff is friendly, and it seems clear they are trying really hard to establish an authentic English eating experience... but they fall short on execution of what should be the signature dish. Whether the batter is too warm or the oil too cold I don't know, but the batter is thick and of dishcloth consistency, and the fish - rather than being flaky, fluffy, fresh and white - is sort of gray and chewy, at the thin ends in particular. When you cut or bite into the fish, you immediately have two piles of food in front of you, the fish, and the batter. Finally, the flavor is quite bland, neither the fish nor the batter seasoned with much if any enthusiasm. The fries are on the mushy side, but maybe that's not far off the English style. I hope the owners, should they ever see this thread, won't be discouraged. I think this restaurant can work, but maybe needs a new fish supplier, and some tweaking of the recipe and cooking method on the fish. Really, you have to nail that. I have only been to the location on Bell.

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