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Are there any Taiwanese restaurants in Manhattan?

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batterypark May 23, 2007 07:05 PM

I know there are places in Flushing, but I'm having trouble finding one in Manhattan.

  1. DarthEater May 23, 2007 07:15 PM

    none here that I know of..

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      polimorfos May 24, 2007 05:02 AM

      A few years ago I ate at a Taiwanese restaurant at the end of Mott St. but I'm not sure if it still exists. I seem to recall it was in a basement and that the name started with an "S". Sorry I can't be more informative!

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        polimorfos May 24, 2007 05:05 AM

        I found it.

        Sogo Restaurant
        11 Mott Street, 212-566-9888

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          Brian S May 24, 2007 10:04 AM

          They've changed names and menus over the years. It's now Lucky 11, and the menu is mostly Cantonese, but it's very good. There might be a few Taiwanese dishes still on it. Worth a look. It's usually strangely empty, that's why I put it on my Forgotten Restaurants of Chinatown post:

          http://www.chowhound.com/topics/323879

          http://www.chowhound.com/topics/32387...

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            DarthEater May 27, 2007 01:09 AM

            It has changed to http://www.hongyingrestaurant.com/

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              Steve R May 27, 2007 03:14 AM

              Brian S/DarthEater: I'm a little confused. Hong Ying has been at 11 Mott for my 50plus years. When I "graduated" from going to Wo Hop as a teenager (late 60s) I started going there and continued, off and on, well into the mid 80s, when the owners turned the place over to their children, who "modernized". When did the Taiwanese thing happen? It may well have changed ownership/names in the 90s-00s and now back again to Hong Ying, but I dont really know. Any ideas? The current Hong Ying website does not inspire me to go back. Thanks.

              1. re: Steve R
                DarthEater May 27, 2007 08:28 AM

                I recall dining in there about 5-6?years ago when it was a Taiwanese restaurant. Then it changed to Lucky11 and now Hong Ying.

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                  Pan May 27, 2007 10:43 PM

                  When it was Taiwanese, was the name Hong Ying? That would be strange, because it means "Red Heroine (or Hero)." I know a woman named Hong Ying, and she was given that name because she was born during the Cultural Revolution in Guangdong. Needless to say, there was no Communist Cultural Revolution in Taiwan.

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                    DarthEater May 29, 2007 08:39 AM

                    It was "So Go". Too bad it didnt last too long.

                2. re: Steve R
                  Brian S May 27, 2007 10:21 AM

                  I've been out of NYC since December and I guess things have changed. I dont remember Hong Ying in the mid 80s. Chinatown was less sophisticated then and so was I. I used to go to La Petite Suzhou on Elizabeth. They closed down years ago and have now reopened in New Jersey. But for years the restaurant at 11 Mott Street has been, first SoGo and then Lucky 11. Lucky 11 had two menus, both in English as well as Chinese, a short one given to luckless tourists and a long one with all the Taiwanese and Shanghainese good stuff. So maybe they still do that and the website has the short tourist menu.

                  There used to be a Taiwanese place in the long arcade at 16 Elizabeth St, along with Coluck and Yummy etc, but I guess it's gone.

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                    Steve R May 27, 2007 01:58 PM

                    When Wo Hop was only downstairs and a congee and greasy noodle shop, Hong Ying was the place to go if you had a couple of extra dollars to spend. They had small purple eggplants stuffed with meat and garlic, plates of small black snails to be eaten with toothpicks, wor suey kow (the kitchen sink soup), large clams on the shell with fermented black beans and garlic &, best of all, long hot green peppers stuffed with ground meat. I'm 99% sure that the owners were Cantonese. From 68-75 & then again from 81-83 I spent much of my eating life there and Wo Hop. The kids must've sold it later on in the 80s and maybe someone's bought it back (or maybe just the name). Oh well.

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                  Lau May 27, 2007 09:04 AM

                  i dont see any taiwanese dishes on this menu

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                    DarthEater May 27, 2007 11:37 AM

                    The taiwanese place closed.

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                      jbhnyc Jun 13, 2007 09:12 AM

                      Lets get the story straight on 11 Mott St. I started going there in 1983 on a college break with Queens friends who had gone with their families for years before. The restaurant downstairs had a sign outside that said New Hong Ying. We just called it Hong Ying. It was always open late and had one particularly ornery waiter who had little patience for us white mid-20s stoned diners. The steamed dumplings were huge and had just a touch of a brown sauce drizzled over the top with fresh scallion slivers. The mussels with jalapeno-laced black bean sauce were legendary. The chow fun (with roast duck!) was amazing at $3.95, as was the Singapore chow mai fun. The older couple ran the place for years. They never delivered. After 9/11, I cried when I went over to check on them and it was closed and shuttered. It stayed that way till 2004 when it reopened as Lucky 11, which I never tried, having replaced my old fave with NY Noodletown by then. I recently saw the new sign reflecting the old name but now just Hong Ying, not New Hong Ying. I have not yet been man enough to try it, but maybe this weekend. I dont have high expectations though - its hard to match up with such great food memories.

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            lucybobo May 24, 2007 05:07 AM

            Isn't Ten Ren Taiwanese? Besides having really good bubble tea, I noticed they also serve "Taiwanese slush ice," noodles and some other kinds of snacks. It's on the west side of Mott St., a little bit south of Canal.

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              Lau May 24, 2007 05:08 AM

              not really a restaurant though

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                cimui Jun 13, 2007 06:40 PM

                If we're doing Ten Ren, St. Alps Tea Shop might be worth a stop, too. They have really nice tea drinks and good dim sum items, many of which are more common in Taiwan than in other places. (http://www.menupages.com/restaurantde...)

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                cimui May 24, 2007 10:15 AM

                Suzie's on Bleeker St. has some Taiwanese items on the menu, including bubble tea. I've never tried them. The one time I let a friend drag me there, the food I had was heavily gringo-ized.

                1. designerboy01 May 27, 2007 07:15 PM

                  Excellent Pork Chop on Doyer Street (across the street from the Post Office) is Taiwanese. I don't think its great but it is Taiwanese.

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                    DarthEater May 29, 2007 08:49 AM

                    I agree. The menu is also limited in comparison to Taiwanese in Queens and the flavors seems adjusted to suit chinese people in chinatown.

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                      shirlotta Jun 13, 2007 08:37 PM

                      does anyone know if they have taiwanese breakfast? fresh soy milk, you tiao jia bing (uh, i guess literally translated, oil strips in a flaky bun. what it really is is deep fried crullers in a flaky bun with sesame seeds), and so on?

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                        Lau Jun 14, 2007 05:31 AM

                        http://www.chowhound.com/topics/409982

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