402762 Fri May 18 07:27:43 -0700 2007 42 1 San Francisco Bay Area 0 2580756 Please list your non fast food joint Burger candidates! Yeah In & Out is good but everywhere. But give me your "I want to savor it" burger, and place. Thanks!! Fri May 18 07:27:43 -0700 2007 13879 RobertM 1 2580770 Hasn't this been done to death? Check the archives. Fri May 18 07:31:48 -0700 2007 2580756 13418 Jim 2 2580838 Not only that, but if In & Out is a standard for "good", the list will reach the moon. Fri May 18 07:50:44 -0700 2007 2580770 10255 Gary Soup 3 2580982 In & Out is "good", but I think that the OP wants "GREAT"! I've seen this done for the EB quite extensively, but not as much for SF. So, I'll bite... I'm on the same quest, RobertM, and thus I don't have a contribution to make perse, however I've heard that Zuni ranks up there... I'm curious as to what others think. Fri May 18 08:29:50 -0700 2007 2580838 25012 chemchef 4 2581535 The thing I don't get about the question in the OP is that In N Out _is_ a fast food burger. I think they're the best fast food burger around, but theyr'e a fast food burger, period. I'm a big fan of Burgermeister for the "non-fast food" type of burger (even though they're really quick). I haven't had the chance to try some of the other oft-mentioned burgers in town (Zuni, for example). Fri May 18 10:35:49 -0700 2007 2580982 80141 ccbweb 2 2581668 Ditto...people reply to it regularly too... Fri May 18 11:13:20 -0700 2007 2580770 48770 sylphi 1 2581175 Just a few suggestions from the archives. http://www.chowhound.com/topics/321947 Fri May 18 09:12:51 -0700 2007 2580756 10857 wolverine61 2 2581358 I've always been a bit confused about this - when is the Zuni burger actually served? Fri May 18 09:53:19 -0700 2007 2581175 77809 gemster 3 2581380 At lunch and after 10pm. Fri May 18 09:58:56 -0700 2007 2581358 10189 celeste 4 2581415 Tuesday through Saturday, Zuni's burger is available until 6pm and after 10pm. Dunno if it's on the Sunday brunch menu. Fri May 18 10:07:13 -0700 2007 2581380 11369 Robert Lauriston 3 2581388 Here is a link to a page that has the lunch menu for May (the burger is on it). Not sure if they only serve it for lunch or lunch and dinner. http://sanfrancisco.menupages.com/restaurantDetails.asp?areaId=21&restaurantId=8702 Also, here are the hours: Hours of Operation: Lunch: Tuesday - Saturday: 11:30am - 6:00pm, Sunday: 3pm - 5pm Dinner: Tuesday - Saturday: 6:00pm - 12:00am, Sunday: 5:00pm - 11:00pm Sunday Brunch: 11:00am - 3:00pm Fri May 18 10:00:50 -0700 2007 2581358 25012 chemchef 1 2582009 Sorry for any heart burn over the topic. Im on the east coast and will visit SF next month. I have found Yummy Chow and their list of the burger holy grail. Are those places still current? Yeah I want to know what you guys out there consider a great burger not pick a fight or piss anyone off. I will follow the links to the past posted comments!!! Thanks Fri May 18 12:29:26 -0700 2007 2580756 13879 RobertM 2 2582038 the bunrabs do a good job. their tastes are compatible with mine and therein lies the rub: they may not be compatible with others. woodrow wilson suggested, "i use all the brains i have plus all i can borrow." Fri May 18 12:36:12 -0700 2007 2582009 10627 steve h. 3 2582125 Good burgers can be had at: Big Mouth- 24th and Valencia -Niman Ranch, grilled, good luck if you want it medium rare they tend to cook well done, but it's still good, great fries too. -Burgermeister- Carl and Cole; Church and Duboce -Niman again, will cook to order NOPA- Divisadero & Hayes -For a truly divine burger, go here. Nice restaurant, lot's of reviews on this board, house ground, gourmet burger. Joe's Cable car- location? -expensive but high quality burger, house ground Have fun! Fri May 18 12:53:14 -0700 2007 2582038 91425 virtualguthrie 4 2582228 d & h sounds good. what does "house ground" mean in terms of flavor? Fri May 18 13:16:49 -0700 2007 2582125 10627 steve h. 5 2586689 house ground means they grind the meat on the premisis and therefore it is really fresh. Forgot about Bill's place, glad someone mentioned it, great homestyle burgers. Sun May 20 16:33:23 -0700 2007 2582228 91425 virtualguthrie 4 2582263 Strongly second Joe's, though I was alarmed to learn the prices have increased substantially. Fri May 18 13:28:14 -0700 2007 2582125 18466 a_and_w 3 2582128 Current topic on brains: http://www.chowhound.com/topics/402081 Fri May 18 12:54:11 -0700 2007 2582038 11369 Robert Lauriston 4 2582177 lol! i thought you would have taken a shot at wilson (much easier). burger wise, zuni is pretty good. the goofy storefront place in sausalito is ok, too. the pine cone diner is my favorite but you need a fast woman and a convertible to get there. Fri May 18 13:05:04 -0700 2007 2582128 10627 steve h. 5 2582539 i'm kind of fond of the burger at pine cone diner. any thoughts? Fri May 18 14:44:30 -0700 2007 2582523 10627 steve h. 6 2582564 previous post same area http://www.chowhound.com/topics/323039?query=point%20reyes%20station Fri May 18 14:54:57 -0700 2007 2582539 10857 wolverine61 3 2582440 big mouth burgers doesn't use niman ranch beef. They have some other brand that is natural (no antibiotics, etc...) Fri May 18 14:22:50 -0700 2007 2582038 25148 finchycocoa 2 2583195 Don't fall for the hype regarding Joe's Cable Car. The burgers are ordinary at best (inferior to In-n-Out by a long shot), the service is cranky and the prices aren't realistic. If you are coming west, I advise you to get your In-n-Out burger fix while you are here. Use the rest of your dining time on all the great eateries that SF has to offer. Fri May 18 18:58:58 -0700 2007 2582009 84316 GermanShepherdPuppy 1 2583419 Burger Joint is great. There are two locations in SF--one at Haight and Pierce (Lower Haight) which is the one I go to. This is on par with Burgermeister--a cut above fast food, with Niman Ranch beef, and the traditional toppings. I love the soft bun and pickles, plus a nice big green lettuce leaf, some red onion slices and a slice of tomato. It comes with a side of steak-type fries. That's about it--limited menu and one thing I love is that they serve a junior size burger--it's a manageable size if you're not absolutely starving and hits the spot. Plus, the Haight St. location has nice roomy retro booths, though you order at the counter. Fri May 18 21:27:46 -0700 2007 2580756 86449 cafecreme 2 2583450 How's the one in SFO? Fri May 18 21:49:50 -0700 2007 2583419 77809 gemster 1 2583477 The Rogue Brewery pub in North Beach has a "Kobe Burger" with Maytag Bleu Cheese which is mighty tasty. Fri May 18 22:09:17 -0700 2007 2580756 10255 Gary Soup 1 2583495 Chez Maman has a good burger too. I like the one on Potrero Hill because of the neighborhood. http://chezmamansf.com/ Fri May 18 22:29:34 -0700 2007 2580756 15083 sgwood415 1 2583506 Is Bill's in outer Clement still doing their traditional burger thing? Fri May 18 22:39:01 -0700 2007 2580756 13619 Sharuf 2 2583817 Yep, I was there a few weeks ago and they are still true to form. I think Bill's a a great neighborhood place with diner food. The burgers are good for a diner, if you're on a burger quest, it's worth checking out. http://www.billsplace.qpg.com/ Sat May 19 07:03:57 -0700 2007 2583506 15083 sgwood415 1 2583947 Tower is good also. Sat May 19 08:10:01 -0700 2007 2580756 81807 intomeat 1 2584402 Couleur Cafe on De Haro between 16th and 17th. Great burger, great frites. Excellent Mussels Couleur Cafe too (tarragon give it a nice complementary licorishness). Sat May 19 11:55:30 -0700 2007 2580756 15879 Joan Kureczka 1 2584509 I had a Zuni burger last tuesday for lunch. It was very juicy, had decent flavor. I thought what it lacked was some charring, carmelization on the outside. I do like Joe's Cable Car, although it is pricy and the sides aren't that special. I guess for me it's about the beef and meaty flavor. Sat May 19 12:51:31 -0700 2007 2580756 44835 jkt 2 2584692 I have always enjoyed the burger at The Chieftan (Fifth and Harrison) with everything on the side. Their fries are good also, but I wish the curry sauce that came with the chips&curry was richer and thicker. Irish curry is thin and runny I guess? Sat May 19 14:37:17 -0700 2007 2584509 24219 tyler k 1 2587219 For a good ole American burger, go to Kezar Bar in Cole Valley. For a more modern burger, go to Slow Club in Potrero Hill. Sun May 20 20:25:05 -0700 2007 2580756 45454 skimc 1 2588405 So far there are the top main choices: Burgermeister Zuni Slow Club Joe's cable car Any one had the Tuesday only Burger at Rosamunde Sausage Grill? Mon May 21 10:25:08 -0700 2007 2580756 13879 RobertM 2 2588608 Now really ... no one in this thread mentioned Bullshead? Far outshines Joe's Cable Car ... which, IMO, is blah and expensive blah. Mon May 21 11:19:19 -0700 2007 2588405 10264 rworange 2 2588694 I've had it a couple times - it's a great burger, and even better when you factor in the price ($5 or so, if I recall). Just don't go anticipating a quick lunch. Mon May 21 11:42:42 -0700 2007 2588405 10603 nsheth 2 2588716 I recommend Home on Market or on Union. Niman Ranch, they always get medium rare right and pretty reasonable at $10 on the brunch menu with bacon swiss and fries. Mon May 21 11:48:31 -0700 2007 2588405 44398 sfeater 1 2588518 okay I know its not fast food or a burger joint but Martini House in snt. Helena/Napa area makes the best Kobi beef burgers iv ever had. also has anyone had the burger at Val's hamburgers ... i ate one years ago and remember it being great Mon May 21 10:55:45 -0700 2007 2580756 100159 momsafoodie 1 2588652 I like the burgers at Mo's on Grant Street, but they also have a location in the Yerba Buena Gardens. Really big, really juicy and well worth the $7.00 pricetag. If you're looking for burgers that are good at 2am after a night of drinking, check out Sam's on Broadway at Columbus. It's a hole in the wall, but oh-so-good. In that same genre, Kelly's burger's on 16th (i think) between Mission and Valencia. Again, I've only been after a night of drinking, but they both satisfy the craving. Mon May 21 11:32:34 -0700 2007 2580756 69432 mlucier 2 2588673 I think Sam's has been serving burgers to drunks (including me) for over 40 years, so they should have it down by now. Mon May 21 11:37:21 -0700 2007 2588652 10255 Gary Soup 2 2588681 I had heard Kelly's is closed? Could be completely wrong on this, haven't been in a while . . . Mon May 21 11:40:06 -0700 2007 2588652 10603 nsheth 3 2589132 They have definitely closed and a quite good thai place has replaced it. There are 3 thai places on the block, and they are the only one that doesn't deliver and I still pick it over the others, but occasionally get overruled due to the delivery issue. Their roti with curry is particularily good. Mon May 21 13:32:38 -0700 2007 2588681 12189 Meredith