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Manhatten/NYC Food in the Bay Area?

There's places like escape from ny or a slice of ny pizza, izzy's brooklyn bagels, etc but where's the cream of the crop?

best ny style pizza?
best ny bagel? (i've yet to find one comparable)
rice pudding?
hot dog?

anything else?

NYC is a city I remember for 'junk' food, everytime I touch down at JFK I find myself running toward the nearest bagel shop no matter what time of day it is.

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  1. For a good hot dog, try Burgermeister. For a good bagel...the 6am United flight from SFO can have you at JFK by about 2:30 in the afternoon...

      1. Theres a really good NY style pizza place on Broadway across from Showgirls... ;)

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          1. re: Robert Lauriston

            Yes! I couldnt remember the name! Thats yummy ;)

            1. re: fyoulady

              Previous reports here haven't been generally enthusiastic but they might have improved.

              1. re: Robert Lauriston

                i fondly remember cable car pizza, but i was drunk, starving and it was 2 am.

        1. You probably won't find a comparable bagel around here. I do the same thing you do and hit all the fave NYC eats like bagels, pizza, hot dogs, etc. everytime I'm out there.

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          1. re: VirgoBlue

            hah...but i'm eternally optimistic. at least H&H and Rice to Riches shipments give me something to look forward to.

            1. re: wchane

              Delancey Street Restaurant on the Embarcardero (at Brannan) and their smaller Crossroads Cafe at 699 Delancey Street both serve H&H bagels brought in fresh from NYC.

              http://delanceystreetfoundation.org/e...
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              1. re: wchane

                IMO, H&H ain't much better than Noah's...

            2. I lived in Manhattan for 6 years and haven't found anything comparable to Grimaldi's or Lombardi's (my personal favorites) in SF. The closest pizza I've found to Grimaldi's is Delfina Pizzeria, although I'd be the first to admit it's not that close.

              As far as bagels, my favorite is Holey Bagel on 24th street (they do boil them unlike many other places).

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              1. re: asimqadir

                Grimaldi's and Lombardi's, like John's of Bleeker St., the original Patsy's, and the original Totonno's, use coal ovens, which if used properly can give a unique crust. There are no coal ovens in SF or so far as I know anywhere in the West.

                Closest we have are Italian-style wood pizza ovens in use at A16 and Tommaso's in SF, Pizzaiolo in Oakland, and Nizza la Bella in Albany, among others.

                1. re: Robert Lauriston

                  Also try Gioia for pizza, its on Hopkins Street in Berkeley. It is literally a hole in the wall, but its absolutely amazing and authentic.

                  1. re: Robert Lauriston

                    One of the pizzaioli at Pizzaiolo used to work at Grimaldi's. Pizzaiolo's crust can be very much like a smaller version of Grimaldi's (coal and wood fired pizzerias are rarely super consistent), though the sauce, cheese, and other toppings are quite different.

                    1. re: ElApuesto

                      Pizzaiolo's probably my current favorite pizza in the area, but as far as the crust goes, to me it's sort of in between Rome and New York.

                  2. re: asimqadir

                    I ate at Lombardi's last fall and decided I like Nizza La Bella's Gennaro Lombardi-inspired pizzas better. However, I may be operating on different criteria than New Yorkers.