401613 Tue May 15 06:08:32 -0700 2007 9 16 Mid-Atlantic 0 2570443 Thanks to a lot of helpful posters, I found some local sources for quality chocolate. Now I need local sources for cream that is pasteurized, not ultra-pasteurized. I've tried Shop-Rite, Wegman's and a local health food store. Any suggestions? Tue May 15 06:08:32 -0700 2007 63569 flourgirl 1 2571200 Good Luck, The only options I can think of are one pay a dairy farmer to get a gallon straight from the bulk tank or possibly the Amish. Having grown up in the heart of dairy country you will be hard pressed to find anyone that will openly advertise or dispense of unpastuerized milk. I believe the FDA makes it so that all creams have to be ultra-pasturized. If I had a dime for every time I drank milk straight from the bulk tank as a kid I would be a millionaire. I swear at temp, (38 degrees) you can't find a better drink for kids on a hot humid day who just climbed out of a 140 degree haymow. By the way if you find a farmer who will let you get milk out of his tank, one of those 5 quart plastic ice cream buckets will yield about a inch to a inch and a half of solid cream once it has sat in the refrigerator over night. Which comes pretty close to a good cup and a half of cream. Tue May 15 10:29:08 -0700 2007 2570443 22783 F77 2 2571263 I don't know - does the FDA say that all cream has to be ULTRA-pasteurized or just pasteurized? I believe cream is only ultra-pasteurized to extend the shelf life - not for any other reason. I'm not looking for unpasteurized cream - just not ULTRA-pasteurized. Now, that doesn't mean that I know for sure that pasteurized cream is available anywhere. I've never seen it - only read about it - kind of like Bigfoot, I guess. I think i'm gonna do me a little googlin' right now. Tue May 15 10:43:16 -0700 2007 2571200 63569 flourgirl 3 2571325 OK, so from the quick research I just did, pasteurized cream appears to be available in some locations (like in Texas - this does not help me...) So I'm still looking for local sources for cream that has only been pasteurized, not ultra-pasteurized. Tue May 15 10:59:58 -0700 2007 2571263 63569 flourgirl 1 2571942 Flourgirl, you can see Bigfoot at Wegman's in Bridgewater. I was just there and they have "fresh" cream which says it is pasterurized. Right next to it is the same stuff, but ultra-pasteurized. They also carry pasteurized and ultra-pasteurized half-and-half. As you would expect, there is a significant difference in expiration dates. Tue May 15 13:31:57 -0700 2007 2570443 57768 ambrose 2 2571993 I was going to say the same thing. I've seen fresh cream at Wegmans (in Princeton/West Windsor) right next to the ultra-pasteurized cream. It costs a few cents more and I'm pretty sure it's in a solid purple carton. Tue May 15 13:44:16 -0700 2007 2571942 22167 SarahEats 2 2572138 Thanks ambrose & SarahE- I didn't think Wegman's carried it - it is very good news to hear that they do. Tue May 15 14:24:55 -0700 2007 2571942 63569 flourgirl 3 2585217 I purchase half and half at Wawa that is only pasteurized, not ultra. It tastes way better than ultras. I believe their heavy cream is also NOT ultra-pasteurized, just pasteurized. I'll have to look again. Sat May 19 19:40:20 -0700 2007 2572138 38328 NJFoodie 4 2585695 I was able to find pasteurized cream at Wegman's but I never thought of checking Wawa - we have two right by us! I'll have to check there this week. Wawa is much closer to us than Wegman's. This would be a great source, if they carry it. Thanks! Sun May 20 07:13:00 -0700 2007 2585217 63569 flourgirl 1 2588928 Welsh Farms is a pretty common brand around here (Essex Co.) and I distinctly remember their half-and-half and cream having a drastically shorter expiration date than most of the other brands. I don't believe it is ultra pasturized. Mon May 21 12:48:56 -0700 2007 2570443 21065 jmoryl