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Nathan's Kosher Hot Dogs

jfood May 10, 2007 04:06 PM

Wandering through the HD section of the grocers and a new label appeared, Nathan's Kosher Hot Dogs. Jfood says, OK will try.

Well jfood gotta tell you these dogs a really good. They have the saltiness and flavor of the HN dog. Jfood will perform a side by side test over the weekend, but the first dogs definitely says, buy me again.

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  1. Axalady May 10, 2007 04:51 PM

    Nathan's Famous is our favorite hot dog. It's the hot dog we buy when we want to splurge. I think they're close to, if not over 300 calories each, that's twice of some other hot dogs, but worth every calorie in my book! If we're having a cook out we always give our guests a choice of Nathans or another dog like Ball Park or Esskay. Some people, like my mother-in-law, say Nathan's are too fatty for them. I say Good! More for me!!

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      OldDog May 10, 2007 06:38 PM

      According to the label on my pkg, each dog is 170 calories. (So you can have two now...lol)

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        jfood May 11, 2007 06:59 AM

        The Kosher's weigh in at 140 calories, 110 calories from fat, 7 gm fat, guess that's why they taste so good.

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          Fleur May 18, 2007 10:56 PM

          There are regular Hot Dogs, and then there are "Specials". They weigh in at at least twice the size, and of course, at least twice the calories.

          Hot Dogs are a special occasion food, nopt something eaten every day,so why not enjoy yourself.

          What do you like to put on yours?

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            jfood May 19, 2007 07:30 AM

            Father jfood used tocall them "specials" growing up. Then jfood saw knockwurst and thought they looked a lot like specials and now they are called "Dinner Franks". Jfood does not understand the difference between Specials, Knockwurst and Dinner Franks made by the same "lable". Just call them Fat Franks

        2. re: OldDog
          Axalady May 11, 2007 04:26 PM

          That is good news! I thought they were closer to 300 each - I WILL have two - and won't feel nearly as guilty as I used to!!

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        missfunkysoul May 10, 2007 05:39 PM

        there is no hot dog like a nathan's... i've turned my husband's family on to them, and they haven't gone back since... glad you found them!

        1. jinet12 May 10, 2007 05:53 PM

          The only kind I have bought for years...Second place...Hebrews

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            Val May 10, 2007 06:22 PM

            Yes yes...when we have burgers and dogs, Nathan's are what we buy...they are SO good!
            $4.00+ for 8 of them, kind of steep so I try to watch for a sale and freeze them. Living in FL, we really only love our hot dogs grilled anymore. I think my son had one at someone else's bbq years ago and asked me to get them--that's all I buy anymore.

            1. jfood May 10, 2007 06:42 PM

              All,

              To be clear, these are Nathan's KOSHER. Totally new in jfood land. Yes there are several other varieties of Nathan's and love them all but it does not come in the yellow wrapper, but a deep red.

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                rockycat May 11, 2007 06:55 AM

                We were excited to see the kosher ones, too, especially since many people consider the HN hechsher questionable. The kosher Nathan's taste okay, still I prefer HN. Maybe because that's what I grew up with. I'd honestly rather have Boar's Head with the skin on, but it's always good to have a kosher alternative to Rubashkin's (feh!).

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                  joebenjamin Aug 7, 2008 08:30 PM

                  NATHAN'S KOSHER are made by RUBASHKINS--zelingold upper midwest kashruth----non-glatt.

                2. re: jfood
                  Karl S May 11, 2007 04:54 PM

                  The best Nathan's are the ones sold only at the mother ship on Coney Island (not the boardwalk itself, though). They are tied a bit longer than the skin-on ones sold elsewhere (and I am of the school that a dog without skin is a wasted opportunity), and seem to be fattier and therefore even tastier. It will be interesting to see what the kosher Nathan's are like.

                  I miss the skin-on Hebrew National franks we would get at our butcher a generation ago; I don't know when HN stopped making them or distributing them, but it was a shame they did.

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                  VirgoBlue May 12, 2007 08:44 PM

                  I've done the side by side taste test between NH and Nathan's and Nathan's has come out the winner in our house. NH is just slightly too salty for us. Nathan's has all the flavor without as much saltiness.

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                    hotdoglover May 13, 2007 04:37 AM

                    I've seen the Nathan's Kosher, but haven't tried them yet. My guess is that they are probably saltier than the regular Nathan's due to the koshering process. A good comparison might be the regular Nathan's and Kosher. I love Hebrew National hot dogs as well, and you can still get them with the skin. It is a collagen casing. They are available at numerous places in New York and one place in New Jersey where I get mine. It is Goldberg's Kosher Meats on rt 516 in Old Bridge, N.J. If you go, call ahead to make sure they have them on hand.

                    1. MsDiPesto May 13, 2007 06:24 PM

                      I will keep an eye out for those Nathan's Kosher dogs. I used to think HN were the best, but they have slipped to second after trying Nathans.
                      Now, if I try to eat any of the usual supermarket cheapo dogs, I end up feeling nauseous for the rest of the day.

                      1. Bob Martinez May 17, 2007 02:38 PM

                        With the return of warm weather to New York I stopped by my local supermarket to pick up a pack of Nathan's. I much prefer the natural casing variety. In addition to the satifying snap when you bite into them the spicing of the natural casing dogs is more assertive than the skinless kind. Let me be more specific - the natural casing dogs are the ones sold at Coney Island. They define what a great hot dog should be.

                        In place of the NC variety my supermarket had the new Nathan's kosher dogs. I thought "How bad could they be?" and bought a pack. Thirty minutes later I had grilled a couple and had my answer.

                        In short - why bother? These are skinless dogs - no snap. They are also bland dogs - pretty much the equivalent of their regular skinless variety. If I wanted bland I already knew where to find it.

                        Unless you need to keep kosher there's really no reason to buy these. They're not bad - just totally without distinction.

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                          hotdoglover May 17, 2007 05:34 PM

                          Thanks, Bob. I've seen these at a supermarket near me but have not gotten around to buying them. I, too prefer a natural casing dog. If the Nathans Kosher is the equivalent of the regular skinless dog (which I think is ok) I'll stick to the regular natural casing Nathans.

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                            Bob Martinez May 18, 2007 04:44 AM

                            As you said, they're the equivalent of a skinless dog. Not bad at all but definitely a distant 2nd to the natural casing Nathan's.

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                              jfood May 18, 2007 04:48 AM

                              Jfood agrees that there is nothing like a natural casing dog. They seem to have disappeared in my grocers tho. :-((

                              If given the option jfood would also grab the NC dogs, but given the choice of non-NC's jfood found these puppies really good.

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                                gafferx Aug 10, 2008 10:01 AM

                                Replying to you post up above
                                Specials were big fat knockwurst when I was little (NYC)
                                You rarely hear that term anymore
                                You could find "specials" at local Queens delis that were great

                                Katz's still has those great knockwurst "specials"
                                Not sure about general availability beyond that since I no longer live in NYC

                                Yes, I loved specials much better than hot dogs. Just the word made a little kid feel like he was eating something special.

                                And these knockwurst specials were big fat things. Full of garlic and spices. The packaged Hebrew National ones are shrimpy

                                1. re: gafferx
                                  jfood Aug 10, 2008 05:10 PM

                                  Thanks G. HN now has three sized dogs:

                                  Regular - 1.75 oz
                                  Jumbo - 3.00 oz
                                  Dinner - 4 oz.

                                  And one knockwurst at 3.00 oz. the same size as dinner franks.

                            2. re: hotdoglover
                              ChowFun_derek Aug 7, 2008 11:10 PM

                              Unfortunately neither Nathan's or Hebrew National is sold with the natural "snappy" casing here in San Francisco (at least I haven't found them, and I have tried) luckily we have other brands which do, but it's not the same!

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                                BobB Aug 8, 2008 11:33 AM

                                The best snappy casing of any supermarket brand here around Boston is Pearl's. The ones they sell out of the deli case are about 1/4 lb each, with a great pop to the skin. Tasty too!

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                                  virtualguthrie Aug 8, 2008 01:54 PM

                                  After a lot of searching I found Nathan's Natural Casing hot dogs at Safeway on 16th and Potrero. They were a new item, I bought three packs in the hopes that they will keep carrying them and of course to stock up in case I can't find them again. Good Luck!

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                                    ChowFun_derek Aug 9, 2008 09:54 AM

                                    REALLY!!!

                                    Thank you, thank you, thank you,
                                    I'll head over there today!

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                                      ChowFun_derek Aug 10, 2008 09:24 AM

                                      I picked up 3(!) packages, the Safeway on Market doesn't carry these..I hope others will buy the remaining packages, so that they will restock them!

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                                      Nancy Berry Aug 10, 2008 05:45 PM

                                      Safeways in the SF Bay Area just started carrying the natural casing Nathan's franks -- I've seen them at Potrero Safeway, the Westlake Safeway and at the Pak 'n Save in South San Francisco. I'm sure that other Safeways in the area have them, too. By the way, they're delicious!

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                                        ChowFun_derek Aug 11, 2008 09:52 AM

                                        Good to know...I'll request them from the Market Street store and see how responsive they are....

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                                        Karl S Aug 11, 2008 02:19 AM

                                        It would be cost prohibitive to have kosher natural casings. Casings are made from intestines. For kosher, it would have to be sheep (not pork) but also, the lower parts of kosher animals are not kosher unless there is a complicated procedure to remove a major blood vessel, and it's not commercially feasible, IIRC. So truly kosher sausages in the market don't have casings. That's why I don't bother with them,

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                                          hotdoglover Aug 11, 2008 03:39 AM

                                          There are a few places near me (N.J.) where I can get Hebrew National franks with collagen casings. They are excellent.

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                                            Karl S Aug 13, 2008 07:25 AM

                                            We used to get those a generation ago, but they are not listed as a produce on the HN website, so it makes me wonder if they are really HN products or something subcontracted out in some way.

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                                    Fleur May 18, 2007 10:54 PM

                                    I kind of like Hebrew National better. Maybe it is their commercials "We answer to a higher authority!"

                                    Nathan's Hot Dogs is always a stop for us when we go down to Brighton to walk the Boardwalk. For home grilling, I prefer HN.

                                    1. Davwud Aug 13, 2008 05:19 AM

                                      I stock up when I'm down yonder. We can't get them up here in the GWN and it's killing us. Good dogs are a rarity here in TO.

                                      DT

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