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NYC vacation - high end restaurants plus other typical American?

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swedegal May 1, 2007 09:33 AM

In about two weeks, my boyfriend and I (Swedish, 30 yo) are going to New York for 10 days. We will be staying in Harlem near Marcus Garvey Park but plan to go everywhere in Manhattan(posted these questions on the Manhattan board too) and some to the outer boroughs as well. A big feature of our trip will, of course, be FOOD. I have a lot of questions, so have broken them down into two posts. !

I am a "pescatarian"(no meat other than fish or seafood), but my boyfriend eats everything. We don´t like overly touristy places, but as long as the food is fabulous they´re OK.

In any of the outer boroughs, what would you recommend for...

1. High end type restaurant (dinner)?

2. High end type restaurant (lunch)?

3. Brunch?

4. Seafood and/or caviar?

5. Classic American Diner?

6. Soul Food?

7. Steaks (for the boyfriend...)?

8. Bagels, bialys?

9. New York style Cheesecake? How is Juniors in Brooklyn?

10. Bakeries?

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  1. Fat Bastard RE: swedegal May 1, 2007 09:51 AM

    #9 - Juniors is good but try S&S Cheesecake in the Bronx, 222 West 238 Street off of Broadway. To die for.

    1. Fat Bastard RE: swedegal May 1, 2007 09:52 AM

      #5 - Try the Brooklyn Diner on West 57th Street in Manhattan.

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        Woodside Al RE: Fat Bastard May 1, 2007 10:15 AM

        If you like "faux" classic that is. For the real, unvarnished, classic American (that is to say Greek-American, since almost all of these places are owned by Greek families) diner food you really have to go to the outer boroughs. There are many many of these throughout Queens and Brooklyn, but I warn you that although it may satisfy your curiousity the culinary results are often not pretty (I usually tend to stick to breakfast food). A guilty favorite of mine is the Georgia Diner on Queens Blvd. in Elmhurst near the Queens Center Mall. This place has the advantage of being near a large Asian neighborhood, so if you really hate the food there you can walk up Broadway (Queens Broadway, that is, not the same as the famous one) to much better Chinese, Vietnamese, Thai, and Indonesian food.

      2. JH Jill RE: swedegal May 1, 2007 10:04 AM

        Ah, I just replied to your other post. If you want steaks, you can always go to Peter Luger in Brooklyn, but you might want to try one of the Argentine or Uruguayan places in Queens, or Plataforma in Manhattan.

        1. Woodside Al RE: swedegal May 1, 2007 10:23 AM

          Soul food? Well, Harlem is really off topic for this board but I say Charles' Southern Kitchen on Broadway. Not fancy - in fact quite plain,, with buffet service - but great food served by very friendly folks at prices well below that of the glitzier tourist places like Sylvia's. The one who eats meat should try their great fried chicken.

          Ruthie's on DeKalb Ave. near downtown Brooklyn is another good spot. Again, very plain place with very good food (counter service - have the greens and the mac & cheese) served by amazingly friendly people. They also have many freshly made (fried) fish items, served with hot sauce and homemade tartar sauce. This place is only a couple of blocks east of Junior's, so you could combine the trip.

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            Fleur RE: swedegal May 1, 2007 10:36 PM

            I know you are going to have a terrific memorable vacation.

            I would suggest getting a copy of the New York City ZAGAT guide, and the Marketplace Guide as well.. The suggestions and ratings are very helpful, and all the addresses , phone numbers , hours, and directions are included.

            1. High end type restaurant (dinner)?

            For a great dinner with the most spectacular view in the world, try River Cafe in Brooklyn on a Barge in the River. Reservations are a must, at least a week or two in advance.

            We also love Mario Batali's Babbo and Del Posto.

            2. High end type restaurant (lunch)?

            Any of the well known highly rated French restaurants or Union Square Cafe, Gotham Bar and Grill serve a fantastic lunch.see the "lunch section" in ZAGAT

            3. Brunch?

            4. Seafood and/or caviar?

            Le Bernadin has the best seafood in the City and is a very lovely, classy place.

            5. Classic American Diner?

            6. Soul Food?

            7. Steaks (for the boyfriend...)?

            Peter Luger in Williamsburg, Brooklyn, rated every year as the best steak in America. They do have a fish dish and vegetables.

            8. Bagels, bialys?

            9. New York style Cheesecake? How is Juniors in Brooklyn?

            Juniors in Brooklyn is really divine, the best, and well worth the trip. Kind of like a huge Diner with a big Bakery attached. You can have a great lunch there..

            10. Bakeries?

            For the questions I left blank, I am sure others can fill in.

            Since yoiu are on vacation for only ten days and it sounds like you want to experience the best, I would avoid all neighborhood dives that might be OK if you live close by, but don't merit coming all the way from Sweden .

            1. johnk RE: swedegal May 2, 2007 03:09 AM

              You must try the Oyster Roast at Grand Central Oyster Bar in Manhattan.
              This restaurant is a Must visit for a fish lover.
              Regards,
              JK

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                Fleur RE: johnk May 2, 2007 06:34 PM

                I second The Oyster Bar in Grand Central.

                Excellent seafood and fish in an historic, landmarked setting. The Lobster Stew and Clam Chowder are outstanding.

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                Geo8rge RE: swedegal May 2, 2007 05:40 AM

                Bagels, bialys? I prefer Tal, although H&H of Seinfeld fame is at least as good.

                Mo Gridders BBQ

                Steaks (for the boyfriend...)? Kean's Steakhouse

                Soul Food? Numerous places in Harlem, as the hotel desk.

                . Seafood and/or caviar? www.petrossian.com/ Russ&Daughters for take out. Ask the hotel desk if the "City Island" area of the Bronx is easy to get to for you.

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                  guide boy RE: Geo8rge May 2, 2007 09:59 AM

                  ask at the hotel desk? is that ever a good idea? my guess is they send you to sylvia's.

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                    Geo8rge RE: guide boy May 3, 2007 09:42 AM

                    Ok, The Zagat Guide would have great Harlem coverage.

                    If they want to trek to Brooklyn, Sugar Cane on flatbush is Caribbean and upscale.

                2. Astoria Lurker RE: swedegal May 2, 2007 08:31 AM

                  It's not really on your list, but for something unique that probably isn't available in Sweden check out one of Astoria's Brazilian restaurants. They are far above the generic Manhattan churrascarias in terms of quality and authenticity and reasonably priced. My favorite is definitely Malagueta (36th ave and 28th street), but Sabor Tropical (Broadway & 36th street) is also excellent. There are also a few others in the area that have gotten good reviews on this board, like Brasaville Cafe for a casual lunch (sold by weight).

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                    ratatosk RE: swedegal May 3, 2007 10:38 AM

                    It's not on your list, and not in the outer boroughs, but I feel compelled to mention that you will be very close to some of the best pizza in the city. The Harlem branch of Patsy's (much better than the rest) is located at 118th and 1st, not a terrible walk from Marcus Garvey.

                    I second Charles' Southern Kitchen for soul food. And I recommend breakfast at Barney Greengrass if you like fish - excellent salmon and sturgeon.

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                      Rodrigo RE: swedegal May 3, 2007 12:48 PM

                      1. High end type restaurant (dinner)? In Brooklyn, try Applewood or Al Di La. In Manhattan, Hearth, Cafe Gray, Craft.

                      2. High end type restaurant (lunch)?

                      3. Brunch? In Manhattan, August , great baked eggs with mushrooms and German Pancakes

                      4. Seafood and/or caviar? In Manhattan, Mary's Fish Camp, the freshest oysters I've ever had.

                      5. Classic American Diner?

                      6. Soul Food? Blue Smoke

                      7. Steaks (for the boyfriend...)? Raouls

                      8. Bagels, bialys? Ess-a Bagles on First Avenue in Manhattan

                      9. New York style Cheesecake? How is Juniors in Brooklyn?

                      10. Bakeries? I can't recommend a particular establishment, but if you take the G train to Greenpoint Avenue in Brooklyn, you'll be in the middle of Polish bakery heaven.

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                        swedegal RE: Rodrigo May 7, 2007 02:06 PM

                        This is a great list! Thanks so much everyone.

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