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BLM Apr 30, 2007 06:48 PM

Just noticed over the weekend, when I was in The Plateau on Mont-Royal avenue(& St-Hubert), that there will be a new cupcake shop opening up soon. It will be called Petits Gateaux(boutique de cupcakes).

  1. The Chowhound Team May 1, 2007 08:29 AM

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      C70 May 1, 2007 09:10 AM

      so.. cocoa locale has taken the cupcake to a level I haven't yet experienced. THANK YOU for an answer to my simple question.

      I do agree that we on the Montreal board can have friendly discussions, but what can you do?

      1. re: C70
        carswell May 1, 2007 09:27 AM

        "so.. cocoa locale has taken the cupcake to a level I haven't yet experienced."

        I think that's a pretty accurate assessment. Am not usually a fan of cakes and cupcakes but Reema has made a believer out of me.

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          kit May 16, 2007 03:09 PM

          I want to chime in and second/third/fourth everyone's opinion on Cocoa Locale. I don't like cupcakes. But then came Cocoa Locale - it now gets me up early on the weekends to snag the lemon & choco chai ones before they all go. I wish the people who rave about Magnolia's in New York, which I hated, can try CL.

          CL's cakes are magnificent too (I'm also not a fan of flour based cakes). And so is Reema.

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            phedre Aug 18, 2007 10:19 AM

            After I hit up Gamba, I made my way down to Cocoa Locale and finally snagged a few of their cupcakes. The chocolate chai were worth every hobbling step!

            I personally found the lemon coconut too sweet, and felt a bit sick after eating one, but oh my those chocolate chai ones... amazing!

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          BLM May 1, 2007 09:15 AM

          Previous to Cocoa Locale, had anyone else in Montreal tried to open a cupcake shop?

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            carswell May 1, 2007 09:24 AM

            Not sure whether Fuschia predates Cocoa Locale, though it's more than a cake shop. But it was only after Cocoa Locale opened that cupcakes were on everybody's lips.

            www.hour.ca/food/food.aspx?iIDArticle...

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              BLM May 1, 2007 09:28 AM

              Maybe it was Reema's cupcakes at Fuschia. Before Reema opened Cocoa Locale, she use to supply bakery products to Fuschia(maybe she still does).

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                carswell May 1, 2007 09:30 AM

                Good point. Don't think she's supplying Fuschia anymore. She does make some of the desserts, including a killer Afghan pudding, on offer at Rumi, however.

        3. RhondaB May 1, 2007 09:18 AM

          Has anyone tried the cupcakes from Le Fournil (364 Victoria in Westmount)? Saw them for the 1st time on Saturday & although they looked great, I thought $2.75 per was a bit steep to pay. Hoping someone can comment on whether I should've paid the piper!

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            BLM May 1, 2007 09:24 AM

            Tried them several weeks ago, when I was on my hot cross-buns search. I found them mediocre. I have always found Le Fournil products to be sub-par & way too expensive.

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              RhondaB May 1, 2007 09:27 AM

              Thanks for that info.

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                Chai Latte May 1, 2007 12:03 PM

                Yes, Le Fournil is on the pricey side. I've only ever had their pumpkin pie (available only in the Fall and around Thanksgiving) and corn bread. The pumpkin pie had a lovely crust, but alas, the pie filling wasn't nearly sweet enough. The corn bread is good, with jalpeno peppers and corn kernels for zip and texture.

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                  ginger07 Jun 30, 2007 06:05 AM

                  agreed!

              2. mainsqueeze May 18, 2007 09:01 AM

                So we tried Petit Gateaux last night and were sorely disappointed. They served us muffins disguised as cupcakes with a frosting camouflage!

                Though the vanilla frosting is decent in texture (the chocolate was just okay and coconut was all dried out, resulting in a shower of blue coconut flakes blanketing our table-top), it's not really that special and no where near as bountiful as I'd hoped. The cake itself was somewhat dry and far too dense. It was not light, nor airy, and certainly did not evoke memories of clouds or cotton candy or marshmallows or other fluffy things. And they weren't even that cute or appetizing. I mean, isn't that half of the point?

                It seems the people at Petit Gateaux don't even know the difference between a cupcake and a muffin (!!!), and I am almost offended by their evident lack of research into the matter (which is surely is a matter of utmost importance). The most insulting part was that we were charged $2.75 for each of these cupcake IMPOSTERS.

                Needless to say, we will not be returning any time soon.

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                1. re: mainsqueeze
                  eoj May 19, 2007 03:08 PM

                  I second this review. The chocolate ganache ones were very sloppy looking. We tried the lemon and the vanilla cupcakes and both were a bit dense. The icing on the vanilla cupcake was way too sweet. The shop is extremely cute, but the cupcakes don't live up to the decor.

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                    BLM May 19, 2007 07:54 PM

                    Tried two cupcakes at Petits Gateaux today to get a better picture of their product. I found their chococate cupcake fairly good, while their carrot cupcake was way too oily(what's the reason for this?). Was there mid to late afternoon, & it was pretty busy with customers.

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                      SnackHappy May 26, 2007 04:26 PM

                      Suckers, all of them. Muffins with icing ain't cupcakes.

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                    lulucake Jun 5, 2008 09:15 PM

                    wow i had the SAME exact reaction as you when i tasted Les petits gateau!
                    My favourite is Magnolia's cupcakes, don't know if you taste before, and in Montreal so far i like the best is Le Glaceurs, i tasted the red velvet cupcake it was really good! can i ask you your favourite place for cupcakes?
                    I think Coca Local is good, but i prefer fluffy cupcakes, Coca locale is more a cake than a cupcake..

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                    lsk Jun 5, 2007 10:57 PM

                    Has anyone tried Itsi-Bitsi (http://www.itsi-bitsi.com/home.html)? I found it linked to in a comment on endless banquet's post on Cocoa Locale and the anonymous commenter claims it's even better than Cocoa Locale. ($2.85/cupcake though...

                    )

                    From its menu online, it seems they have some interesting flavours for the summer like choco-wasabi and from the limited press on it, the environs are more chichi boutique than the cute-down-homeyness of Cocoa Locale.

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                    1. re: lsk
                      SnackHappy Jun 5, 2007 11:25 PM

                      http://www.chowhound.com/topics/375398

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                        carswell Jun 6, 2007 06:54 AM

                        Also www.chowhound.com/topics/404061 and www.chowhound.com/topics/397451

                      2. re: lsk
                        buzz_sapien Jun 6, 2007 06:44 AM

                        YUP - I live in that area - we've been hooked since it opened. We think they put crack in the icing. While they are a little expensive, you truly get a perfect blend of gourmet and childhood - the icing....oh the icing.... We have aske if we could go in back in lick the bowls and spoons, but the answer wis no.
                        And as if the cupcakes weren't good enough, she no serves up her own home-made gelato that I dare say rivals Havre des Glaces.... Try the Chocolate Ginger....mmmmmmmm.
                        It's just off the Atwater Market on Notre-Dame

                      3. Soufi Jun 21, 2007 07:41 AM

                        Tried Petits Gateaux last weekend, munched on a chocolate one with pleasure, tasted great. But what's with the aesthetics? I hesitated to take the chocolate one because... it looks gross! I do not dare to write what it looks like! But the agressive coloration of the others did not appeal to me. I imagine the bright yellow, pink or blue adds a vintage touch to the stuff, but there must be a way to be more creative than that with natural stuff, no?

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                          kimberlya Jun 30, 2007 07:25 AM

                          it's possible to get those colors naturally (just like with red velvet cake you can use things like red beet sugar to make the cake bright red). maybe they're trying to be.....rustic?? look homestyle?

                          i'm so excited to see this thread before my trip. cupcakes are my favorite food, by far =)

                        2. eoj Jul 28, 2007 08:14 PM

                          Here's a blog reviewing 4 of the cupcake shops in Montreal:

                          http://underthehighchair.blogspot.com...

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                            BLM Jul 29, 2007 01:09 AM

                            This food blog was mentioned last Wednesday in the Montreal Gazette feature focusing on the cupcake craze in Montreal.

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                              carswell Jul 29, 2007 05:08 AM

                              Do you recall who the author was?

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                                Venusia Jul 29, 2007 05:55 AM

                                Susan Schwartz.

                            2. re: eoj
                              SnackHappy Jul 29, 2007 01:48 PM

                              That review is pretty much on the money, as far as i'm concerned. Of course, I haven't been to Choc'ola, but I really don't think I'll be going any time soon. I do agree with everything she wrote about the other places. Especially about Petits Gateaux. That place is just plain bad. It takes a lot of hubris to open a bakery when you can't bake.

                              1. re: eoj
                                carswell Jun 20, 2008 10:26 PM

                                A writeup of Round 2 of the blog's search for the city's best cupcake was posted on Wednesday. The shops visited were Les Glaceurs, Petits Gateaux (the blog explains that they've changed chefs in the intervening year and that the vaguely disgusting purple cupcake I tasted in May was tea-cranberry-violet) and Cocoa Locale. You'll never guess who wins.

                                http://underthehighchair.blogspot.com...

                              2. RhondaB Jul 30, 2007 09:54 AM

                                If not already open, another cupcake shop (whose name escapes me!) was primed to open on Laurier, corner Hutchinson. When I walked in (not realizing they were not yet open for business) I thought the space was really nice ... the shop's interior is well suited for its Laurier St. location.

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                                  BLM Jul 30, 2007 05:54 PM

                                  I was around Laurier, corner Hutchinson today, & couldn't find the cupcake shop(went up & down Laurier, in & around Hutchinson several times and still couldn't find it).

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                                  emerilcantcook Aug 18, 2007 02:20 PM

                                  I have been sampling the area cupcakes during the last few weeks. I know it is almost a culinarily incorrect thing to love cupcakes these days, but I love them. In fact I can eat one every day, if I had easy access to them. I am not far away from the store, but I never had the temptation to go in Petits Gateaux. Their frostings somewhat look off putting, especially their chocolate one, which looks like a swirl of fresh caca. I am sure it tastes good, but I cannot get the picture out of my mind.

                                  I also had high expectations of Itsi Bitsy, and made a special trip to get some cupcakes; but I was underwhelmed. Their chocolate was OK, but it left a strange aftertaste in my mouth, akin to canned frosting. I cannot imagine them using canned frosting (if they are, shame on them), so I am wondering what that could be. On the other hand, their lemon poppy one could have been very good if only had some more frosting and less poppy seeds in it (50 percent of the cake was poppy seeds)

                                  Lastly Cocoa Locale. How I love thee. Let me count the ways. Unlike most fans, my favorite is the vanilla one. It is perfectly executed. The chocolate chai is pretty good too, but it is a little bit too dense for the days I am looking for something a little bit lighter. My only complaint is that her cupcakes don't come in other flavors that she incorporated in her larger cakes. I don't want to give in the temptation of getting a whole cake just because I am intrigued by her flavors such as the Valhrona lavender cake.

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                                  1. re: emerilcantcook
                                    carswell Aug 18, 2007 02:43 PM

                                    "My only complaint is that her cupcakes don't come in other flavors that she incorporated in her larger cakes. I don't want to give in the temptation of getting a whole cake just because I am intrigued by her flavors such as the Valhrona lavender cake."

                                    True but the small cakes aren't much bigger or more expensive than two cupcakes and they keep well for a day or two. Look at it as an opportunity to develop your self-restraint. Leftover chocolate-lavender cake is the breakfast of champions!

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                                      emerilcantcook Aug 18, 2007 02:51 PM

                                      When there is good cake at home, somebody needs to put a padlock on my fridge. Ergo, cupcakes.

                                      But true, a small cake goes for 8 to 10 bucks and if you are one of those lucky people who can stop after a slice, it is actually much better bang for your buck and there are lots of flavors to chose from.

                                      1. re: carswell
                                        phedre Aug 18, 2007 03:14 PM

                                        I bought three of the choco-chai cupcakes. My self-restraint is barely in check. I hadn't considered having one for breakfast though... hrmm... Sunday morning with coffee!

                                        1. re: carswell
                                          anachemia Nov 4, 2007 05:35 PM

                                          carswell, you are a genius and a lifesaver. If I had not read your suggestion today, our trek to CL would have been fruitless and frustrating, as our dear Reema had already sold out of everything with diameter < 3" when we arrived around 2pm. However, the display case still held about 6 shiny lavender-choc cakes - we snagged one and she expertly sliced off 2 tiny triangles for us to eat on the run.

                                          Truly amazing stuff - can't believe it's already 9:30PM and the thing is still about 3/4 intact. Will be supremely impressed with myself and dh if there is anything besides crumbs remaining 24h from now...

                                        2. re: emerilcantcook
                                          killedwithkarate Aug 20, 2007 01:09 AM

                                          Give into temptation! The valhrona lavendar cake is unbelievably delicious. I picked it up around 6pm after the lady in front of me bought the last cupcake. Although I shelled out a few more bucks than anticipated, I had an unforgettable culinary experience. Just thinking about it makes me want to run out and get one right now... Pity that Cocoa Locale is closed on Mondays.

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                                            emerilcantcook Aug 23, 2007 11:37 AM

                                            I gave in, and I totally agree; it was brilliant. It was very chocolately, but still had enough room for the lavender flavor. I also saw a vanilla-lavender cake in the display, but I am off for sweets after a recent cake-bake-cookie-macaron-ice cream tasting spree so it has to wait a while.

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                                              killedwithkarate Aug 29, 2007 05:01 PM

                                              I have since had the vanilla lavender cake, and it is also sinfully amazing with a bit more room for the lavender to show itself. I actually think I might like the vanilla over the valhrona. Now I'm going to experiment by adding lavender into my baking. It's really a brilliant flavour that I probably would have never thought of otherwise. Reema is a smart lady.

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                                                Venusia Aug 29, 2007 05:51 PM

                                                Well now, I have to go try Cocoa Locale's cakes! I'm not usually much of a cake person, but these raptures are irresistible.
                                                I had a lavender crème brulée while on vacation this summer and it was one of the memorable moments of my trip.

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                                                  maisonbistro Aug 29, 2007 06:25 PM

                                                  You need to try the spicy chocolate- just perfect

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                                                  emerilcantcook Oct 22, 2007 08:28 AM

                                                  I totally concur. It is now my favorite. There is something in her vanilla frosting that makes it irresistable and addicting. Adding lavender in it made it even perfect. I cannot put my finger on what makes that frosting special, it is almost like crack!

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                                                    wilfred Nov 3, 2007 12:55 PM

                                                    I gave Petits gateaux a try a month ago, while on a huge sweets craving. The experience was a disaster. First, the service was rude and totally unfriendly and the cupcakes were dry and tasteless. Cocoa Locale is the way to go: extremely tasty, very friendly service and absolutely charming. I give Petits Gateaux another 3 months and will close down. Itsi bitsi is also good.

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                                                      kpzoo Nov 3, 2007 01:33 PM

                                                      Does anyone know of a Web site for Cocoa Locale? I thought I'd found one once but I can't seem to find it, so it might have been my imagination.

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                                                        eoj Nov 3, 2007 01:55 PM

                                                        I don't think one exists. Itsi-Bitsi and Petits Gateaux both have websites, so maybe you're misremembering theirs.

                                                        But there is a delightful you-tube video:
                                                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXY8MJ...

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                                                          maisonbistro Nov 3, 2007 02:12 PM

                                                          KP- don't do it. DON'T GOOOOO

                                                          I have tried their things twice, discussed them with other NDGers, and everyone agrees that they aren't good. The icing is overly sweet, with only a passing nod to buttercream - a very distant relative if anything, and they are expensive. Again, I don't mind paying if it's good, but these just aren't.

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                                                            kpzoo Nov 3, 2007 02:31 PM

                                                            Nice video eoj - I must really go!

                                                            Maisonbistro - I bet you're thinking of Cho'Cola on Monkland, right? Yeah, tried one once and not impressed. But have you been to Cocoa Locale on Parc? I've only heard good things....

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                                                              maisonbistro Nov 3, 2007 04:10 PM

                                                              Oh crap. I'm sorry. You're right. OW (hitting my hand on my forehead).

                                                              Yummmmmm Cocoa Locale. Try they spicy chocolate cake. YUM

                                                              We ventured out East today to Praline and Caramel, picked up a few pastries and a few chocolates. Haven't had the pastries yet - will report back tomorrow. Did try one of the chocolates, but wasn't impressed.

                                                              I'm hoping the cakes will wow me as I am looking for something different to order for my birthday. Did I saw my birthday?? sorry, I meant someone else's birthday. Yeah, that's the ticket, someone else's birthday.

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                                                              bomobob Nov 4, 2007 05:11 AM

                                                              That location has been like the kiss of death for everyone who's tried to run a business there. It was just fine when it was Hercules, and simple, local souvlaki joint, until they got too big for their britches and tried to go upscale, basically offering the same food for three times the price. Was there someone else between them and Garam Masala? Anyway, with any luck, the cupcake shop (ugh! pooey!) will tank soon and maybe the gods will finally smile upon NDG and give us a Thai restaurant.

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                                                                kpzoo Nov 4, 2007 05:29 AM

                                                                Strangely enough, I believe that very location is the exact spot where my grandparents ran a "dry goods" general store in the 1950s! I don't think they ever made millions, either. ;-)

                                                                > maybe the gods will
                                                                > finally smile upon NDG and give us a Thai restaurant.

                                                                Bomobob, do you not know about the fabulous Thai place a few blocks west? It's been open for at least a year - excellent food, tell me what you think if you go. Favourite dishes: fish filet with red curry sauce, chicken & eggplant, sticky rice.

                                                                Bangkok Express
                                                                5645 Monkland Ave. (near Oxford Ave.)
                                                                Phone: (514) 223-4552

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                                                                  bomobob Nov 5, 2007 05:12 AM

                                                                  Uh yes, as I said, "maybe the gods will finally smile upon NDG and give us a Thai restaurant". I'm still waiting.
                                                                  I got very excited when that place opened, but was sorely disappointed to find yet another watered-down-North-American Thai restaurant. The food is good, I'm not saying it isn't, but it's not even close to the real thing. I'm still waiting for a chef who understands that if he makes pork with chili and basil like they do in Thailand, people WILL eat it, and like it, though many may find it too hot. Instead they habitually use a few leaves of basil, red and green peppers in place of the chilies, and a run of the mill starched broth sauce, where there should be none at all. Ends up looking like some Cantonese pork/veg stir fry.
                                                                  That said, their curries are good, but that's often the case around town. Good curries, and the rest kind of mock Thai.

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                                                                    eat2much Nov 17, 2007 10:09 AM

                                                                    Yet another cupcake emporium has just opened it's doors at 453 Rue Saint-Sulpice in Old Montreal. The store is called "Les Glaceurs" and features cakes, cupcakes, and Bilboquet ice cream.

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                                                                      maisonbistro Nov 17, 2007 11:43 AM

                                                                      Have you tried it??? Woud love a review of the cupcakes and cakes...

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                                                                        eat2much Nov 17, 2007 11:59 AM

                                                                        I might swing by and check it out but, in general, cupcakes taste like cupcakes (says he whilst putting on his flame retardant suit).

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                                                                          maisonbistro Nov 17, 2007 07:21 PM

                                                                          Well, if you've read my scathing reports on other local cupcakeries, you'll see I'm not easily swayed by the pretty iced mini cake. So far, the only ones I would rave about and go out of my way for are from Cocoa Locale.

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                                                                          emerilcantcook Nov 30, 2007 02:49 PM

                                                                          I was in Old Montreal for a meeting and saw the store and got in. The flavors were intriguing (chocolate cake with green tea frosting, lemon and red velvet), so I brought 3 to home to share with my partner. The verdict: meh! The icings are too dry, almost crusty. The cakes are nothing to write home about and there was way so much sugar in them that we tasted nothing but sugar. My partner didn't even ate his frosting, he was put off by its consistency. The only passable one (read:passable) was the red velvet.

                                                                          I am so sorry but, this won't work. The irony is, it is really hard to mess cupcakes; they are easy to bake and if you care and use good ingredients they will inevitably taste good. The only reason why I "buy" them is because I don't want to bake a whole batch and eat them. Well, if they are going to continue charging 3 bucks a pop, and there is no Cocoa Locale around, I might just bake a dozen for the price of one and then eat one or two and give the rest away. Might be cheaper.

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                                                                            maisonbistro Nov 30, 2007 02:56 PM

                                                                            You bought those at Cocoa Locale? BUt she's nowhere near Old Montreal... you sure that's where you got them?

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                                                                              emerilcantcook Nov 30, 2007 02:59 PM

                                                                              Nope, I was trying to reply to the post about Les Glaceurs in Old M. The indentation thing in Chowhound is broken, I think.

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                                                                                maisonbistro Nov 30, 2007 05:00 PM

                                                                                Phew. Someone else already mentioned that they weren't too crazy about CL's cakes. I thought a trend was starting. The only good thing about that would be that there would be more for me.

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                                                                          kpzoo Nov 30, 2007 04:52 PM

                                                                          And guess what its main Web site colours are - gee, pink & brown, what a surprise!

                                                                          http://www.lesglaceurs.ca/

                                                                          Is this a law or something? I thought that blog piece someone else referenced was hilarious in noting the trend. Can't people be original anymore?

                                                                          http://underthehighchair.blogspot.com...

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                                                                            phedre Dec 7, 2007 10:29 AM

                                                                            I literally work around the corner from Les Glaceurs (on St. Paul), and I've been there exactly once since they opened up. That was more than enough for me. The cupcakes were bland, disappointing, and overpriced, no better than a bought cake mix with duncan hines frosting. For my money, I'll stick to the chocolate chai cupcakes at CL.

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                                                                              nochainsplease Mar 24, 2008 08:07 PM

                                                                              Perhaps the powers that be at Les Glaceurs have read this thread - I have tried their cupcakes on 2 occasions in the last month and found them to be amazingly moist (even after a day in the fridge) and the icing to be buttery and almost insanely delicious.

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                                                                                nutmegpinch Apr 20, 2008 10:48 AM

                                                                                So I have made almost all the cupcake rounds in Montreal, I am just missing the one on Monkland-soon. Les Glaceurs was such a sad affair,the place was nice, a little bit cold decor for my taste but nice nonetheless. The cupcakes are very heavy,dense and not spectacular flavour wise, the icings are just this side of too sweet ans very dry,crumbly. It was really unexpected because the presentation was divine, if you must have one steer clear of the chocolate, go for the lemon but don't expect flavour from the cake- all in the frostings.
                                                                                Itsi Bitsi, was the most comforting place to walk into. Great aromas,old school charm decor and nice displays, this was where the good feeling ended. I brought someone with to taste, the chocolate was one bite and then kissed the garbage can, the vanilla had both of us scraping off the icing-we both agreed the cake on it was good, there is no butter in their buttercream,yuck but they look good. Petits Gateau, the person I went with tried them months back & said they were awful, I tried them this week and they were nice! The blueberry tofu was my surprising fav, still a bit iffy on the frosting but the cakes were light and soft,fresh and tasty-I hear they have a new pastry chef though. I have saved the best for last, Cocoa Locale is in a category all on it's own, Reema makes amazing choco-chai cupcakes and I crave them every week! My hips cry but my tastebuds smile! Indulge your craving for all things sweet and home-made there. Yummie!

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                                                                                  maisonbistro Apr 20, 2008 11:58 AM

                                                                                  Can I give you a pieve of advice - QUIT WHILE YOU'RE AHEAD.

                                                                                  You have nothing to gain by trying Choc O lat of whatever it's called - well, nothing but a few lbs and a diabetic coma. Trust me - they're not worth your trek - especially since you just had Cocoa Locale.

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                                                                                    Moosemeat Apr 20, 2008 08:03 PM

                                                                                    I have to agree. The only reason you would go there is if you have a nut allergy. One of the few (if not the only) completely nut free bakeries in town.

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                                                                                      nutmegpinch Apr 21, 2008 04:37 AM

                                                                                      Will do-thanks because there's nothing worse than overly sweet poor quality cupcakes. Both of you have saved my teeth and tummy!

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                                                                                        killedwithkarate Apr 21, 2008 12:28 PM

                                                                                        I would definitely agree with Maisonbistro and Moosemeat. I was totally not a fan of Cho'cola or where ever they put the superfluous apostrophe. I tried a couple (a chai one, an outrageously plain vanilla-y one and one that I can't even remember) and everything was gritty and boring. Overly sugary in some cases, completely devoid of flavour in others. I honestly contemplated wiping my tongue off with a napkin because of the gross film I was left with. They were definitely inferior to my last minute Betty Crocker cupcakes with my ultra-quick almond buttercream, and I hardly consider that baking.

                                                                                        Yeah... Stick to the yumminess of Cocoa Locale, since I can't imagine a better cupcake anywhere. They are heaven in little paper cups. Especially the vanilla ones. They taste like a little girl's dreams of a fantasy wedding. Sounds crazy, but it's totally true.

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                                                                                          nutmegpinch Apr 22, 2008 08:18 AM

                                                                                          I gotta try her vanilla ones but everytime I go she is out so I end up eating her choco chai which I am always willing to sacrifice myself for! ;P
                                                                                          Man it sounds like Cho'cola is a really bad experience in the making! All I know is you seem to have all suffered and I will gladly steer clear, spanks a bunch for ze tips!

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                                                                                            maisonbistro Apr 22, 2008 10:44 AM

                                                                                            The vanilla cupcakes at CL are the stuff legends are made of. You won't find better anywhere.

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                                                                                              nutmegpinch Apr 22, 2008 05:16 PM

                                                                                              Legends? Well that does it, I am going there asap but I think it will have to be first thing when she opens so I don't miss out again.

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                                                                                      eoj Apr 22, 2008 04:12 PM

                                                                                      I got to try some Petits Gateaux cupcakes again recently and I agree that the new pastry chef has made a lot of improvements. I think Cocoa-Locale is better if vanilla is your favourite, but the variety of interesting ones at P-G make it worth a visit.

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                                                                                        nutmegpinch Apr 22, 2008 05:25 PM

                                                                                        Did you try the raspberry concoction at Pet Gat? If you do let me know, I did coconut-I don't know it was the blue wackadoo colour that nabbed me but it was too sweet, the carrot-kinda nice but the blueberry...yeah i want another but I seem to be on a blueberry kick this past month. I always do that with food, last time it was green grapes and before that it was all things crepe like or with sweet potato.

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                                                                                          carswell Apr 22, 2008 06:11 PM

                                                                                          «I seem to be on a blueberry kick»

                                                                                          Then you'll be happy to know that the mythical blueberry-lemon cake has made a return to Cocoa Locale. Only for early birds, however; it's always the first to sell out.

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                                                                                            nutmegpinch Apr 22, 2008 06:12 PM

                                                                                            Whoohoooo! I am so there!

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                                                                                            eoj Apr 22, 2008 07:27 PM

                                                                                            I've never been attracted to the unnatural looking blue stuff, but the raspberry, tarte-citron, and chocolate-pear cupcakes were delicious.

                                                                                             
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                                                                                              nutmegpinch Apr 23, 2008 08:59 AM

                                                                                              I've learned my lesson about freakish colours but I was adenturous that day. Tarte-citron sound reaaly yum & I am a big lemon fan. I don't know how I feel about choco pear.

                                                        2. carswell May 10, 2008 09:53 PM

                                                          Just in from a friend's 40th birthday party. They'd tried to source the required three dozen cupcakes from Cocoa Locale but were told Reema doesn't do more than 24 at a time. They then turned to Petits Gateaux, which was happy to oblige. The assortment looked fabulous on a tiered platter. No one could peg the flavour of the cupcake with lavender-coloured frosting (my guess was Welch's grape juice) and, though there was some debate as to whether the dried fruits studding the cake were cranberries or raisins, there was general agreement that the confection was oversweet and slightly disgusting. The double chocolate was OK and not too sweet but in no way memorable. People who choose the blue sprinkled version (coconut?) complained of excess sugar. The only winner I tasted was a number filled with lemon curd and topped with a swirl of Italian meringue. In general, the cake was dry. Cocoa Locale needn't lose any sleep over the competition, though one person rightly pointed out that an assortment from there wouldn't have had the same initial impact, especially on the children present. Still, at the evening's end, probably a dozen cupcakes remained, something that never, ever happens with Cocoa Locale's wares.

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                                                          1. re: carswell
                                                            nutmegpinch May 14, 2008 10:12 PM

                                                            I agree about the lemon meringue cupcake offered at PG, that and the blueberry are the only ones I can say taste like a cupcake-weird how the cupcake seems so difficult to make. I mean, it's cake, in smaller form. Haven't we been making cake since God knows how long? What is so complicated? Sorry to hear about cupcake leftovers at the party, that is a bummer and not good for PG.

                                                          2. superbossmom May 17, 2008 02:46 AM

                                                            I walked in Petits Gateaux last night and bought a dozen minis, sat and ate 4 before I left with my pretty pink box, the cake part was moist and airy, the lemon pie , banana fudge, raspberry cheesecake and the vanilla with the blue coconut on top, were the ones I sampled and they were all really good . Fresh and sweet.

                                                            Now I must try cocoa locale since it seems to be the favorite from the consensus on this board.
                                                            I've tried les Glaceurs and was disappointed.

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                                                              bakersdelight May 31, 2008 05:51 PM

                                                              I thought Les Glaceurs was magical! At first bite, anyway. An overnight stay in its plastic container, in a shopping bag in the backseat of my car, however, robbed my poor little double chocolate cupcake of nearly all its original lustre. Which, uh, did nothing to prevent me from inhaling it for brekkie, of course.

                                                              I'd love to hear people's thoughts on icing texture. Firm (Magnolia NYC) or creamy (Cocoa Locale)? Anyone?

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                                                                Aspiring Foodie Jun 1, 2008 08:49 AM

                                                                I have had Magnolia and have found the icing to be creamy and buttery,not firm per se. Itsi Bitsi is close to Magnolia in texture only oilier (as opposed to buttery) and not quite as tasty. Cocoa Locale icing is more like a grenache or a fondant, which I don't like as much, but which is still delicious--it's only a personal preference that I would choose to bite into a cloud of icing than into a sheet of it.

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                                                                  superbossmom Jun 20, 2008 12:45 PM

                                                                  I tried the cakes at Les Glaceurs this week on St Paul and they were quite amazing, the red velvet, the vanilla sucre à la crème, lemon and also the carrot. Each is a little masterpiece; it's getting busier in the old port so the freshness will be steady.

                                                                  I actually bought 6 cakes on 2 different occasions, days apart, and each time they were perfect.

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                                                                    Aspiring Foodie Jun 21, 2008 08:17 AM

                                                                    Thanks Superbossmom! Les Gaceurs is the only place I have yet to try...makes we want to go post haste.

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                                                              daimon4 Jan 3, 2009 10:24 PM

                                                              Does anyone have an opinion on the two main cupcake co.s that deliver? Ordered Clever Cupcakes (baked out of NDG) for a bday party on Jan 10th last year. They were very good, perhaps a little dry and not as fancy looking as I'd hoped. Was going to try Crazy about Cupcakes this year but would love any feedback chowhounders may have.......FYI Itsi Bitsy (my first choice) will be closed from Jan 5th to 13th.

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                                                                loojoy Nov 9, 2009 06:44 AM

                                                                Actually, I have had great, not pricey, cupcakes at Fressers on Decarie. Both the chocolate and the vanilla are yummy

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                                                                  freelancer Apr 5, 2010 09:19 AM

                                                                  A friend of a friend owns Cocoa Locale but I didn't get a chance to go even though I was in the Mile end area... Now I am really kicking myself after reading your comments. Next time...

                                                                  I visited Petits Gateaux and I have to say, I'm surprised by the reviews so it must mean they have a WAY better pastry chef than when they opened? Or read your feedback. I cannot stand muffins with icing pretending to be cupcakes. And I have tasted cupcakes as far as Sprinkles in California. In fact, I'm a self proclaimed cupcake connesseiur. So I am really picky...

                                                                  I ordered half a dozen - violet, passionfruit, ganache, raspberry, pear and truffle. The violet one is terrible but the rest were fantastic. I was very weary at first but the size of the cupcakes were huge, and I was most impressed by the texture of the cake. It reminded me of Sprinkles a tad - dense, fine texture, no air bubbles and moist. I actually kept the cupcakes around for 5 days and they were just as melt in your mouth moist as the first day. The pear one was excellent, and one of the other ones had a coconut bottom, under the chocolate cake part. Overall, I found the flavors sophisticated and the execution spot on.

                                                                  Maybe I was there on a really good day? In any case, I would love to try Cocoa Locale the next time...

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                                                                  1. re: freelancer
                                                                    eoj Sep 6, 2010 06:18 AM

                                                                    Petits Gateaux did change pastry chefs and the result was incredible. I have enjoyed beautiful and delicious cupcakes on several occasions since spring 2008. Some flavours definitely have a more muffin-like texture (e.g. the banana fudge), but others are absolutely tiny cakes. Cocoa locale is also yummy and worth visiting.

                                                                    It's worth noting that I have avoided the highly coloured and generally panned cupcakes there like the violet-cranberry-tea and the blue coconut ones.

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                                                                      BLM Sep 6, 2010 10:43 AM

                                                                      You're talking about both of Petits Gateaux locations(quality good)?

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                                                                        eoj Sep 6, 2010 01:46 PM

                                                                        I've only been to the one on Mont-Royal (and admittedly, not for awhile, but certainly my opinion is better now than what I expressed in 2007). I wasn't aware that there was a second location.

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                                                                          BLM Sep 6, 2010 02:31 PM

                                                                          Second location in Monkland Village(sharing the space with a Tea establishment). I think it opened in April 2010.

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                                                                            ios94 Jun 27, 2011 07:03 AM

                                                                            Baking Sweet just opened this weekend on St Jean a couple of blocks south of Pierrefonds across the Loblaws. They are really good, cake is relatively moist and their frosting is not too rich.

                                                                            www.bakingsweet.com

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