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michaelpope Apr 28, 2007 04:54 PM

What are a few can't miss things to do and places to go? The kid's a typical teenager, though particularly bright.

I've done a little research and the number of great things to do is a bit overwhelming.

This will be her first trip to NY, and I want her to fall in love with it.

We're from Greensboro, NC, by the way.

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    frankbooth Apr 28, 2007 05:10 PM

    Are you asking about food or extra- gustatory activities? as for food, great places to take the kids are:

    Katz's Deli (Houston St. pastrami and a dog on the line...)
    Eisenberg's Sandwich Shop (amazing egg salad, tuna salad, old school)
    Russ and Daughters (best smoked fish, lox, roe and caviar, and great dried fruits and nuts and candies)
    Economy Candy (like the name says, mountains of cheap candy)
    Donut Plant (great donuts in LES)
    Kossar Biales (excellent nyc biales)
    Yonah Shimel's Knishes (also on houston, right near katz's and russ and daughters)
    NYC PIZZA- well, Difara in brooklyn is the top of the pops, but a shrek from manhattan and an adventure (of both time and space), so better to try one of the classic manhattan spots- Patsy's Uptown (east side), Lombardi's (meh), Demarco on houston (children of difara master pizzaola- close, great quick slice on houston near 6th ave). also good in brooklyn are Totonno's (if you choose to go to Coney Island, which is always fun with the kids, get a dog at Nathan's and a quick trip over to Totonno's on Neptune Ave in brooklyn- great old school ny style thin crust pies).
    if you want to splurge on a steak thing (if your daughter is a carnivore), go to Peter Luger for lunch - for 2 people, lunch at luger is the deal. get steak for one and a hamburger with fries (burgers only before 3)- creamed spinach and german potatoes and you are done for the day... best steaks in the world (imho...). enjoy and please report back on where you ate and what you saw... enjoy fb

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      michaelpope Apr 28, 2007 05:45 PM

      Thanks, frankbooth. I'm looking for both, really. (Food & extra-gustatory . . .) Economy Candy sounds fantastic, and Peter Luger is already on my list.

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        LFeinberg Apr 29, 2007 06:56 AM

        Forget Peter Luger's

      2. jinet12 Apr 28, 2007 08:22 PM

        Take her to John's Pizzeria and Otto's for pizza...Stage Deli or Katz for a great deli sandwich...She might enjoy Serendipity for the hot chocolate dessert and/or Magnolia Bakery for cupcakes...My son is a teenager, and LOVES Norma's for breakfast...Grab a burger in Madison Square Park at the Shake Shack...or at the Burger Joint inside the Le Parker Meridien hotel...Go to Rocco's in Greenwich Village for great Black and White cookies and amazing cannolis...My son's favorite place for dinner is Balthazar in Soho....I have been taking him to New York since he was about 12 years old, and he is 16 now, but still loves all of these places....You won't have to work hard to get your daughter to love New York, believe me, she will LOVE IT!!!!!!!!

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          RGR Apr 29, 2007 06:05 AM

          *The* place for the quintessential deli experience is Katz's, where it's all about the pastrami. In my view, the Stage has sub-par food and is to be avoided.

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            bac528 Apr 29, 2007 06:22 AM

            You must take her shopping at Bloomingdale's and to lunch at Serendipity and then to Dylan's Candy Bar!!!!!!!!

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              dewdropin Apr 29, 2007 07:19 AM

              I agree with bac528
              We live in Manhattan, my daughter grew up in the city, and what bac528 wrote is exactly what she and her friends think is a wonderful outing:

              Shopping in Bloomingdales, eating lunch in Serendipity it's a great place to eat while you are on vacation (they are the inventor of the Frozen Hot chocolate), and teens adore this place! Then getting candy at Dylan's candy shop (Ralph Lauren's daughter Dylan owns this wonderful emporium of candy across form Bloomingdales on 3rd Avenue.) This is a fabulous Saturday outing for a Manhattan Teen (very expensive day for mom but always fun for all!)

              When in Times Square to catch a show visit the Toys-R-Us in Times Square they have a huge indoor Ferris wheel all the teens love it!

              Teens also like the East Village just to roam around on St Marks place and eat good junk food like Belgium French fries at Pommes Frites on 123 2nd Avenue. Roam around, shop in all the crap stores on St Marks place, NYC is a shopping and walking city, for lunch pick up a Faffael at Mamoun's on Bleecker street then eat and rest in Washington Square park.

              My daughter would kill me if I schlepped her to bialy and appetizing stores that sold pickled herring and lox on the Lower East Side. She only tolerates going to these places if we need to do some shopping.

              When you are on the Lower East side to eat at Katz Deli, a fabulous way to round out the afternoon is to visit the Tenement Museum. This is one of the most authentic and interesting places to visit in the city, when I was there not too many tourists. They have recreated the old tenement buildings for you to walk thru on a tour and see what life was like at different times in history for NYC immigrants.From the 1800's until the mid 1900's It is all period rooms.
              Between shopping and eating you can get in an interesting educational tour!
              ;-) Have fun!

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                frankbooth Apr 29, 2007 08:11 AM

                well, this just goes to show that every child and every family is different. MY daughter would kill me if i went to the lower east side and DIDN'T bring her home some trout roe, gaspe salmon, and some egg salad from russ and daughters. so each child has their own mishegas, shall we say... and yes, Dylan's Candy Shop is a must too for kids... economy candy will be more "economical" though... enjoy fb

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                  nixienox Apr 29, 2007 09:48 AM

                  I second the Tenement Museum recommendation. My 13 year old and I recently went and she loved it. We lunched at Clinton Street Bakery and stopped at Economy Candy also. Good Gelato next the Tenement Museum building. http://www.laboratoriodelgelato.com/
                  I also would recommend exploring around Chinatown if that would interest her. Bread Tribeca is a favorite restaurant, also. My 13 year old loves manga, so stops at Kid Robot in Soho, and Little Tokyo in the East Village and Forbidden Planet near Union Square combined with eating sushi is another fun day.

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            kobetobiko Apr 29, 2007 08:22 AM

            hi michaelpope,

            A lot of great suggestions! I know with so many suggestions right now it might look a bit overwhelming, but you are in luck. Our Manhattan board veteran RGR (who also posed above) came up with this Lower East Side Food Excursion which i think most of the places suggested above and will be perfect for you and your kids. So now you literally can follow the trip to visit many of these places in an afternoon, and save the rest of the restaurants for other nights / days. Here is what I extracted from RGR's post:

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            You might want to consider taking my (in)famous Lower East Side eating tour, which includes a stop at the Tenement Museum (though not at the beginning). Pommes Frites and the Dumpling House are not included though you can easily fit them in. In case you're interested, here it is:

            Lower East Side Food Excursion

            For the quintessential NYC deli experiences, no place beats Katz's, on the corner of Houston (pronounced "how-stun") & Ludlow Sts. You're there specifically for the pastrami sandwich. When you enter, you will be given a ticket. Instead of opting for table service, do what the "natives" do and get on line for counter service. When you reach the counter, put a $1 for each sandwich in the counterman's tip cup and order pastrami on rye. He'll give you a piece to taste. If you like it (the best pastrami is juicy and has some fat on it), tell him o.k., and he'll make your sandwich, give you some sour pickles, and punch your ticket. Then, continue along the counter for sides – the cole slaw is good -- and drinks. Find seats at a table in the center of the room. (Tables along the wall have menus on them and are reserved for waiter service.) When you’re done, take your ticket to the cashier in front. It's cash only. Note: For the purposes of this tour, unless you have a gargantuan appetite, it would be best to share one sandwich in order to leave room for more tastings along the way.

            When you exit Katz’s, turn left and continue along the same side of Houston St. You will come to Russ & Daughters, famous for all sorts of smoked fish and many other goodies. It's not a restaurant, but they make sandwiches to go.

            After leaving the Russes, continue west a couple of blocks until you reach Yonah Schimmel's. Get a tasty potato knish, and make sure to ask them to heat it up.

            Now it’s time for the quintessential NY drink – the egg cream. So, reverse yourself and head east on Houston until you come to Avenue A. (Note: Avenue A becomes Essex St. on the south side of Houston.) Turn left on A and head north until you get to the block between 7th St. and St. Mark’s Place. Look for a hole-in-the-wall candy shop, closer to 7th, with an overhead sign jutting into the street that says, “Belgian Fries.” (The place’s official name is Ray’s, but there is no signage to that effect.) One of the women behind the counter will make you a delicious chocolate egg cream.

            When you’re finished licking your lips, go back to Houston St. and make a left (east) one block to Norfolk St. Turn right and walk down Norfolk until it ends at Grand St. Two places to look for at the corner of Grand and Norfolk: Kossar's, for freshly baked bialys (another very NY food) and the Donut Plant (self-explanatory).

            Next, walking west along Grand St., you will come to Orchard St. Turn right. At 87 Orchard, snack on a pickle from Gus's World Famous Pickles.

            Then, continue to 97 Orchard, b/t Broome & Delancey, where you will find the Tenement Museum. The tour there will show you what life was like for immigrants to NYC at the beginning of the 20th century. (www.tenement.org

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            Once you have finished that tour, Il Laboratorio del Gelato, right next door at 95 Orchard, is a must for some of the best gelato anywhere.

            If your sweet tooth is still not completely satisfied, the final stop on this tour should do it. Continue ahead (north) on Orchard, crossing Delancey, then one more block to Rivington St. Make a right and you will find Economy Candy at 145 Rivington.

            Note: It’s best not to take this tour on a Saturday since some of the spots are closed because of religious observance.

            Dumpling House is located on Eldredge St., b/t Broome and Grand Sts., so you can do it before you do the Orchard St. stops. Pommes Frites is in the East Village, on 2nd Av., b/t 7th St. & St. Mark's Pl. You can either start there before heading to the LES, or you can tack it on at the end. On the same street as Pommes Frites is another place to get a first-rate egg cream, Gem Spa, which is on the corner of 2nd & St. Mark's Pl.
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            As mentioned, Pomme Frites on 2nd Ave and 7th Street is not included, but you should definitely try it out. Probably the best belgium fries you can find in NYC. Plus, which kids (and even adults) do not like fries?

            I am sure you will have lots of fun in the excursion! Good luck!

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              mrnyc Apr 29, 2007 08:42 AM

              my nieces that age love COWGIRL in the west village. before you go you could hang out in abington square kids park and there is shopping along bleecker street nearby (and those magnolia cupcakes). or maybe walk along the hudson river park.

              for extra-chowfun i would rec getting pre-timed tickets for 'top of the rock' over the empire state building for views. its a more pleasant experience and killer views of the city, including the esb. have fun!

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                michaelpope Apr 29, 2007 10:17 AM

                lfeinberg: Why forget Luger's? Bad experience?

                Thanks all - especially kobetobiko - for some incredible suggestions. Keep 'em coming. kobetobiko, you should consider becoming a travel writer! I really appreciate the incredibly detailed walking tour.

                Not food related, I know, but are there any teen-friendly entertainment ideas? A tv show being taped, perhaps - though I'd really hate to wait in line for hours . . .

                frankbooth: Your kid's palate is far more sophisticated than my daughter's. My kid would croak if I brought her home trout roe; she's more of the Dylan's Candy Bar and Pommes Frites variety.

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                  RGR Apr 29, 2007 10:40 AM

                  Hey, michaelpope, I love my pal kobe, and he does give excellent advice. However, just to be clear -- and tooting my own proverbial horn here lol -- that's *my* (in)famous tour of the LES. Kobe is one of its biggest boosters and very often he posts it exactly as I wrote it. I do hope you and your daughter will take it. Enjoy and Bon Appetit!

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                    kobetobiko Apr 29, 2007 11:22 AM

                    Yes, michaelpope, you should thank RGR! She came up with this wonderful excursion and I pretty much enlisted myself to be her promoter =D It is simply such a good and easy to follow guide, this should be included in the NYC official visitor website. I actually have taken it myself even I live in NYC myself!

                    RGR, when are you going to trademark this trip? ;)

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                    frankbooth Apr 29, 2007 11:05 AM

                    i guess my kid is spoiled growing up the child of a chowhound foody road food nut- she eats sally's pizza (i grew up in new haven), pepe's, russ and daughters, peter luger (don't forget to order the BACON at luger- you will need a defibulator), blue ribbon (they joke at blue ribbon that she was raised up on the stuff- we ate there all through my wife's pregnancy- strange foods at any hour prepared perfectly), bagel hole bagels (around the corner from our house in brooklyn- some of the best in the city- old world bagels, not the sugar monsters of H and H), coffe an donuts (coconut cruller, chocolate cake donut, oh buddy), etc. she's eaten at Luger's more times than most adult friends of mine. but dylan's and pommes frites will make any kid happy, this is true...

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