395953 Fri Apr 27 05:10:15 -0700 2007 12 49 France 0 2520002 Next month, I will be staying a few nights in the 17th before heading down to La Rochelle, Cognac, and Albi. Bath's and L'Entredgeu are located close to the apartment; Le Chateaubriand is not close but sounds interesting. Does anyone have experience at any of these, or any others with interesting bistro food, preferably close to Rue Lebon? Two places I loved last time were Ze Kitchen Galerie and L"Ami Jean, if that helps. My dining companion is vegetarian; we are not looking for vegetarian places but need to have a few options on the menu for her to enjoy; will call ahead and request, if that is recommended. Fri Apr 27 05:10:15 -0700 2007 12618 erica 1 2639707 DINNER AT BATH'S Although I did not get any reponses to my query here a few months back, I want to report that I had a wonderful diner at Bath's last week. The restaurant moved to its location in the 17eme within the past year; previously they had been in the 8th. It is run by two brothers from the Auvergne; one is the chef and the other runs the front of house. The long, fairly narrow space is contemporary but not cold; clientele were solely French with the exception of one table of Americans (plus the two of us, so that makes two tables). The menu reflects the Auvergnat heritage of the owners and features updated takes on traditional fare such as tete de veau (here served as carpaccio) and pork feet with lentils, along with (that night) a lobster risotto, pave de bouef, and white asparagus with morels. At the urging of the chef, I ordered the special "Iberique." Not what I expected, but excellent, nontheless, this dinner featured: Jamon Bellota de los Pedroches...jamon Iberico in usual presentation Angullas with Espelette pepper..I had never had these, even in Galicia; excellent little critters, the large helping was heavily spiced with the Espelette, served with the traditional wood fork "Encornet juste saute, riz paella et sauce chorizo" This turned out to be a fantabulous octopus, cut thin like long pasta and served over a terrific chorizo-flecked rice. Superb! "Salamo a la Vanille, fruits rouges et noir confits" As best I can describe, this was like a millefuille (sp?) filled with crema Catalana and served with a morello cherry compote and berry sorbet... All in all, a terrific meal and they went out of their way to accommodate my vegetarian dining partner with cepe risotto and a platter of "wok-fried" vegetables With two glasses of Burgundy, dinner for two came to 80 Euro. Although I did not reserve planning to eat a Spanish meal, the dinner was of a quality so high that I would like to return next trip to Paris. BATH'S Rue Bayern 17eme www.baths.fr Thu Jun 07 14:30:25 -0700 2007 2520002 12618 erica 2 2683525 Did anyone mention Le Gourmet des Ternes, on the bd de Courcelles next to the Place des Ternes? It is a very folkloric place, that always has a "complet" plate at the door and gives you table when they want. But it is tasty bistrot food, in particular best beef in town, with good fries. And don't miss the Baba as dessert, which they bring you with a jar of cream, one of strawbery coulis, and the full bottle of rhum, so you can accomodate it yourself. Fri Jun 22 02:59:39 -0700 2007 2639707 96547 souphie 1 2639713 Hotel Costes....don't miss it, but be prepared to drop some coin. Pub Noir is cool to.... Thu Jun 07 14:33:14 -0700 2007 2520002 46454 buzz_sapien 2 2642338 Sorry???? Did you mean to reply to another post? Fri Jun 08 10:56:09 -0700 2007 2639713 12618 erica 1 2672733 Did you have croissants and kougloff from the bakery rue Lebon, "La Fleur d'Oranger"? They're delicious. Mon Jun 18 23:05:31 -0700 2007 2520002 96547 souphie 2 2673922 Souphie I had croissants from a bakery on Rue Lebon but I do not know the name. It was a few steps from the apartment at #7 which is across from the Marche de Ternes....was that the place? I had Eric Kayser on my list for bakeries in that area as well but never did get there...I loved staying in that area of the city and hope to return before too long! Tue Jun 19 10:17:33 -0700 2007 2672733 12618 erica 3 2674539 I grew up there, and as a consequence still shop there. La Fleur d'Oranger is indeed the bakery on rue Lebon facing the Marche des Ternes. Did you like them? I think they are admirable, if very very buttery. I am not aware of Kayser in that area. BE being a joint Ducasse/Kayser and being so close, I doubt they would open a Kayser. They don't indicate one on the website. Good croissants also at the corner of rue des Acacias and avenue Mac Mahon: le grain de cafe. Maison Divay, in the rue Bayen, has my favorite ham croissants (without cheese), charcuterie, foie gras, and duck confit. Across the street from maison Divay is Planete fruits, which is one of the best providers of mushrooms you can get in Paris. Rostang works with them. Tue Jun 19 12:46:52 -0700 2007 2673922 96547 souphie 4 2682215 Yes, Souphie I did have the croissants; as I remember they sell two varieties, one with butter and the other just listed as croissant. (So what does that mean..that the one not listed as croissant au beurre has no butter??) There is, indeed, an Eric Kayser bakery a few blocks from Rue Lebon..on one of the wide boulevards...I not only went into the shop but I later phoned them to ask if they were open on Sundays (they are not). Oddly enough it is not on the website so perhaps it is new.. Thank you for your tips. Have you been to Bath's or to L'Entredgeu? Thu Jun 21 14:47:03 -0700 2007 2674539 12618 erica 5 2683524 I haven't been, but they're both on my list. The latter at least requires early reservation, for the buzz has been going on for quite a few years now. The croissants "ordinaires" are made without butter, but with some vegetal fat. This is also the case with ordinary pates feuilletees, when they are not "pur beurre" as well. Croissants au beurre et croissants ordinaires do not taste the same, but some (including me) prefer the latter, and less expensive ones. Don't tell anyone. Fri Jun 22 02:55:15 -0700 2007 2682215 96547 souphie 6 2683638 Thanks very much..I have been wondering about that for a long time. I think most Americns are under the inpression that all croissants in France and made with butter! Let us know when you eat at those two places! Fri Jun 22 05:43:46 -0700 2007 2683524 12618 erica 5 3601596 Found this address for Eric Kayser in case anyone is interested in a bakery in the 17th: 19, Avenue des Ternes Wed Apr 16 15:56:30 -0700 2008 2682215 12618 erica 3 2674544 Oh, and about the restaurants in that neighborhood: I like all the restaurants in the rue Gustave Flaubert (Rostang $$$$, bistrot d'a cote$$, il etait une oie dans l'Ouest$). None of them at the tip of modern culinary trends. Tue Jun 19 12:48:49 -0700 2007 2673922 96547 souphie