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GroovinGourmet Apr 25, 2007 10:31 AM

Anyone else running into this? Almost every time I post a reply, Safari goes byebye. My message gets posted, but the app will crash.

  1. mr jig Dec 14, 2007 11:58 AM

    Using Safari 3.0.4 it has never crashed anywhere and runs Chowhound flawlessly.
    What is up here?
    I feel (almost) guilty.

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    1. re: mr jig
      ChowFun_derek Dec 17, 2007 11:14 AM

      you've responded to old posts...the upgrades to 10.4 do include Safari 3, as mentioned in other posts, and has seemingly (and finally!) solved this problem.

    2. j
      Jane A. Dec 14, 2007 08:51 AM

      I may have found a way around the problem. I "compose" my posting in TextEdit and then quickly copy/paste into the reply window at Chowhound and hit post my reply button. It shows instantly the way it's supposed to and doesn't seem to bother Safari. The problem may be in the typing process someplace.

      1. The Dairy Queen Jun 23, 2007 03:34 PM

        I might be imagining it, but I find CH is more likely to crash Safari when my internet connection is most tenuous. It occasionally crashes my Safari when I'm at home, where my connection is pretty good, and is more likely to crash, sometimes on every post, when I've taken my laptop to the library or a coffee shop or something...

        Edit: coincidentally, I had to hard-boot my computer after making this post. Not sure why. Very weird!


        1. sing me a bar Jun 22, 2007 12:53 PM

          Happens each time I post.

          1. Up With Olives Jun 22, 2007 10:03 AM

            I just typed a post and for the first time in ages my Explorer didn't crash. Thank you, whomever!

            1. Chuckles the Clone Jun 11, 2007 07:17 PM

              Apple has released a new version of Safari. v3.0. Still officially a "beta" but so far it's working pretty well. I've used pre-release versions and it seems to have resolved the crashing problem.

              You can get it here: http://www.apple.com/safari/download/

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              1. re: Chuckles the Clone
                Jim Leff Jun 20, 2007 12:25 PM

                It's great it's working for you, but the 3.0 beta Safari has been reported as phenenomally buggy for most users on most Mac sites (http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/17743 , http://www.macintouch.com/readerrepor... ), so Id' suggest chowhounds upgrade with caution.

                1. re: Jim Leff
                  Chuckles the Clone Jun 20, 2007 01:19 PM

                  It has a couple of layout issues, but in my experience I wouldn't call it "phenomenally" buggy. Most of those reports are about it having some sort of bad interaction with Mail. I wasn't able to reproduce any of them, so I'd assume there's a third factor in play.

                  I've been using it heavily (developing a deployed commercial application you might have heard of) and the benefits (spell checking!, does not crash when posting!) are outweighing the negatives.

                  But sure, caution is advised. It comes with an uninstaller. So if you run into problems you can back out and aren't totally screwed.

                  1. re: Chuckles the Clone
                    PhoebeB Jun 20, 2007 02:53 PM

                    I'm glad to hear that. I haven't upgraded from 2..04 because of the reported problems. I like Safari except that it won't autofill on eBay and occas. shuts down after posting here. I've started using Camino for these two sites, but Safari for everything else.

                    1. re: Chuckles the Clone
                      Jim Leff Jun 23, 2007 07:42 AM

                      As an experienced developer, you ought to know that beta software is not for non-power users (who, for one thing, are unlikely to know how to "back out" of the install).

                      But at least it's moving along...a new beta was just released, and early reports are that it's much more stable. So hopefully we'll have a final release soon and Chowhound will be easier to navigate for all of us!

                      1. re: Jim Leff
                        Chuckles the Clone Jun 23, 2007 10:26 AM

                        Closed beta is not for "non power users". An open beta, especially from a company like Apple which takes software engineering seriously, certainly *is* for non-power users.

                        Besides, I'm not recommending it for everybody. Only people who are concerned enough with the constant crashing of the Chow software that they come to this thread looking for help. CH has made it clear that they're not going to address the problem (and have you noticed that some of the javascript packages this site is built on are still in beta too? "Prototype JavaScript framework, version 1.5.0_rc2", etc...).

                        1. re: Chuckles the Clone
                          Jim Leff Jun 23, 2007 02:56 PM

                          My browser just crashed twice in two postings. Ugh. I'm going to give the latest Safari beta a day to see if horrendous problems are reporting, then will jump over and not look back.

                    2. re: Jim Leff
                      Chuckles the Clone Nov 14, 2007 07:36 PM

                      Five months later, Safari 3 is now completely out of beta for all Mac OS X 10.4 and 10.5 users. It comes standard with 10.5. And the latest 10.4.11 update just brought it to people still on 10.4.

                      1. re: Chuckles the Clone
                        Jim Leff Nov 15, 2007 05:43 AM

                        The update was just released, and it's a real good idea for people to hold off on updating system software until reports are in. And so far, reports say that Safari is crashing on launch for some experienced users who updated correctly. See macintouch.com and versiontracker

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                    PhoebeB Apr 27, 2007 09:37 AM

                    Same thing here about every third post.

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                    1. re: PhoebeB
                      fauchon Apr 27, 2007 10:00 AM

                      Ditto! very annoying....

                      1. re: fauchon
                        bulavinaka Apr 27, 2007 10:22 AM

                        I think it's the revenge of PC from the Apple commercials... naughty PC with his Apple-envy...

                        1. re: bulavinaka
                          Up With Olives May 29, 2007 01:04 PM

                          This continues to happen on my Internet Explorer at work. Very annoying and keeps me from posting.

                          bye (crash)

                          1. re: Up With Olives
                            Jacquilynne May 29, 2007 01:09 PM

                            We don't normally get reports of IE crashing on posting. If you've got anymore details to share (error messages, etc), can you pass them along? You can add them here or send them to moderators@chowhound.com

                    2. Chuckles the Clone Apr 25, 2007 01:30 PM

                      Yep. Known problem since the CNET takeover. There are a number of
                      threads about it here which if search was working you could search for.
                      Bottom line: nothing you can do about it and no fix in sight. You could
                      try downloading the latest nightly "web kit" build from http://nightly.webkit.org/
                      (this is the development version of Safari) which does not seem to have
                      the bug. But that release probably isn't coming out until os x 10.5 next
                      september or so.

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