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Kosher Subway in Cedarhurst

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JS69 Apr 19, 2007 06:28 PM

Big sign in the window of the old TCBY saying Subway is coming soon.

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    LoveKosherEats Apr 19, 2007 06:48 PM

    did the sign say kosher subway?

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      MartyB Apr 19, 2007 07:58 PM

      Oh I hope so! I had to go to a shiva call this evening in Brooklyn. I again went to the Subways on Ave J. I don't know what it is but a foot long double stacked turkey hero with all those vegtables somehow doesn't seem so fattening compared with the other local offerings.

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        craigcep Apr 20, 2007 08:36 AM

        The big question remains - fake cheese (as opposed to no fake cheese, not as opposed to real cheese)?

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        MartyB Apr 19, 2007 08:04 PM

        I thought that it was supposed to be Burger Bar? I am confused, are we talking about Burger Bar AND Subways opening or did they change their mind and open a Subways instead of the Burger Bar. I will drive by tomorrow to see. Between the two I hope it will be a Subways.

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          JS69 Apr 20, 2007 12:30 AM

          Burgers Bar is opening up in the old Manhattan Steakhouse (Treif). Looks like they are almost done with the inside (I peeked in). The KOSHER Subway will be right next door in the old TCBY. So it is kosher and burgers bar will be there to answer all questions.

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          MartyB Apr 20, 2007 06:22 AM

          WOW, two new kosher eateries next to one another openning at the same time. This makes on one block Sabra Pizza, Davids Pizza, Bagel Delight, Ruthie's, King David, Wok Tov, and now Burger Bar and Subways. Within 30 seconds from this one block brings you Off the Grill, Central Perks, Shula Pizza, and Sushi Metsuyan. I'm in Chow heaven!

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            JS69 Apr 20, 2007 06:38 AM

            You forgot about Mom's Pastries right on the corner with Central Perk across the street.

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              MartyB Apr 20, 2007 07:28 AM

              You're right as well as Shlomies Bakery.

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                MartyB Apr 20, 2007 08:05 AM

                Woops, my daughter told me to add Elicious Ice Cream, this place probably caused the failure of TCBY and hence Subways!

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                  jeterfan Apr 20, 2007 03:24 PM

                  I think that Cedarhurst is ready for a Stone Cold Creamery store. The demographics are good. There are enough people, who eat chalav stam (not chalav yisroel) that it could be supported, provided that it was under the Vaad of the Five Towns.

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                    robfed123 May 7, 2007 08:21 AM

                    What we need is Rita's Ice. I tasted their stuff in Oceanside and its amazing.
                    there is a franchise oppurtunity in cedarhurst.

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            whitefishcharlie Apr 22, 2007 07:27 PM

            I just hope the five towns can support 2 more eateries. If you drive down central ave on an average night , all the eateries look empty to me - King David, Yossi's , Dougie's etc. Do we really need two more ? Can we as a comuunity support two more ?

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              MartyB Apr 22, 2007 07:45 PM

              Within a 60 sec walk from each other are THREE(!) pizza stores, imagine that! They seem to be doing well. These two new stores reflect a variety, we shall see who survives. From my point of view Dougies can go as well as one of those pizza stores. I am really pulling for Subways since I want the majors to come into the kosher market. I wouldn't mind a more tradional dairy place, like "A Garden of Eat In" from Ave J. I miss Dairy Review.

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                JS69 Apr 23, 2007 05:42 AM

                It all comes down to survival of the fittest. Maybe King David or Yossi's has to go out. As much as I dislike dougies, they are still one of the only places to deliver. That is something that Cedarhurst needs as well. As someone that works here and watch all my treif eating co workers put a call in and get their food delivered in 10 minutes, it is depressing to know that we have to go out everytime if we want to get food. These stores have been around for a while so I am guessing they are getting enough business for now. Will it continue?? Time will tell.

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                  brunodavid Apr 23, 2007 07:30 AM

                  I agree with my dear friend JS. Yossi's will no longer be a 'fast food' commodity once Burger's Bar and Subway open. In fact, I don't even see anyone inside Yossi's beside for a few Yeshiva guys. As far as Dougie's goes, it's nice that they deliver, but I think Dougie's is really overrated.

                  Does anyone know how the new place on Rockaway tpk (formerly 5 Towns Deli) is doing? Last time I was there I was disappointed. Have they cleaned up their act?

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                    MartyB Apr 23, 2007 08:38 AM

                    Alot depends if they are opened late. I go many times to Yossi's because all other places are closed. (I also like their all white snack box). At 9-9:30 everything in the 5 towns begins to shut down. In Brooklyn,, no such problems.

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                      jeterfan Apr 23, 2007 03:19 PM

                      I have no doubt that the Five Towns can support more kosher restaurants if they can solve the parking problems. Between the yeshiva and day school students, the residents, and from out of the area shoppers, there are plenty of potential customers. The question is, however, where are they all going to park?

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                        MartyB Apr 23, 2007 04:00 PM

                        That is one of the things I like about Yossi's Grill, great location from a parking point of view. One can usually drive right up to them and park in front of the store. As to the stretch of Central between Cedarhurst and Maple, one can park, usually without problems on the lot between Willow and Chestnut, problem is people are lazy and want to park right in front.

                        Compared to what I got to go through if I want to go to, say, Prime Grill - circling block after block to try to find a spot. What about what goes on in Brooklyn on Ave J or Coney Island Ave or 13th Ave - Gevald! I'll take the 5 Towns parking situation any day!

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                          whitefishcharlie Apr 23, 2007 05:41 PM

                          Thats why we like Dougies. There is always parking in the lot across the street and it doesn't take as long for your food as it does at Yossi's.

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                            MartyB Apr 23, 2007 05:49 PM

                            The difference is that Dougies "thinks" it is a restaurat and charges like one with waiter service. Yossi's is more like a fast food take out, cheaper with no waiter to tip.

                            K-roasters started out like that, ordered your food then sat down and ate, then they went the waiter route - took forever after that.

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                              jeterfan Apr 23, 2007 06:04 PM

                              I find that Roasters in Cedarhurst has food that tastes very cafeteria like.
                              For example, I ate roasted potatoes at their buffet.The potatoes tasted like the tin can that they came from.

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              kiddush hopper Apr 24, 2007 06:42 AM

              the question is:
              1) will they have fake cheese?
              2) will they have jewish chips (brooklyn subway) or lays (cleveland subway)?
              3) will the beef fry be fried? (the brooklyn subway doesn't fry it and its really gross)
              4) what kind of salami will they have? (the subway in cleveland has all different types of salami: genoa, pepperoni, italian, etc. the brooklyn has just plain salami)
              5) will they have more than 2 types of bread?

              these are the questions that i am pondering. i work down the street, and i am really hoping that it is more like the cleveland subway

              P.S. i saw a sign in LA that they are also getting a kosher subway on Pico

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                jeterfan Apr 24, 2007 02:24 PM

                If Subway wants to do well, they should ask the various day schools and yeshivas if they would sell Subway in their schools once a week. I worked in a public school and they brought in the regular subway heros (premade) once a week and they were a big hit.

                The reason I mention this is that Subway will have huge competition from all of the other multitude of places on Central Avenue in Cedarhurst. It could easily beome a fad that could die out if they do not market their product well. There are many restaurants (Jacob's Ladder,Cedar Club, Batsheva's, to name a few) that did not make it on Central Avenue. There were fewer customers, but there was less competition.

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                  MartyB Apr 24, 2007 05:08 PM

                  I think they should do well from the HAFTR crowd for lunch. It is two blocks away and the Subway offering is a natural for the high school crowd. Between Subway and Burger Bar they should take a decent chunk away from the pizza and bagel store from the lunchtime crowd. Although, now that I think about it, those two locations are real small so that could limit the lunchtime business.

                  Funny, I just went out with the Mrs tonight to Sushi Metsuyan for dinner. I couldn't help but overhear the people at the next table talking about the opening of Subway. One person said to another "it will be a big hit with the kids"

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                    JS69 Apr 24, 2007 07:13 PM

                    jeterfan.....you can't really compare Subway and Burges Bar to Cedar Club and Jacob's Ladder (wasn't that 15 years ago???) The area has changed and those are 2 totally diff't types of establishments. I just don't see anyone really giving competition to subway and burgers bar right now.

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                      jeterfan Apr 25, 2007 03:37 PM

                      I am not really comparing these new places to restaurant offerings in the past. The establishments that I named were novelties when they opened. Jacob's Ladder was the first glatt kosher restaurant in the Five Towns. The Cedar Club was pretty much the only fancy restaurant in the Five Towns when it was open. My point is that if these places have good service, they will do well. If they rely on name recognition alone (without good service), they will be a novelty and people will not continue to patronize them. I hope that they will be successful.

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                robfed123 May 7, 2007 08:23 AM

                Burgers bar will be a major addition. I had their food in Israel. The question is how they will keep things moving along. I dont get the need for Subways. Will their Pastrami be home made or aarons commercial crap?

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                  jeterfan May 7, 2007 06:52 PM

                  My concern with both Subway and Burger Bar is that they are both opening in what appear to be very small locations. How will they handle the flow of customer traffic?

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                    pitagirl May 7, 2007 08:08 PM

                    Burger Bar in Brooklyn has sadly gone VERY downhill.

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                      MartyB May 8, 2007 05:12 AM

                      We shal see if size matters. As an example, Toddy's seems to be doing well and it is a hole-in-the-wall compared to Bagel Delight or Bagel Boss. The key thing is to get and hold on to your clientele.

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                        jeterfan May 9, 2007 02:45 PM

                        Toddy's has good service down to a science. If Subway and Burger Bar can get customers in and out, then they will be able to service more customers.

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                          MartyB May 9, 2007 05:07 PM

                          If Subway works like I saw it work on Ave J, then it should not be a problem, There it worked like an assembly line. One person places your coice of meats on the hero, it then gets moved over to the next person who places the toppings, the next step is the cashier. Soda simply means you buy a cup and you fill it with whatever drink you want. I don't know if the Cedarhurst location will work the same way.

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                            kiddush hopper May 10, 2007 01:59 PM

                            the one in cleveland is also ike that. the reason is because that is how subway as a franchise works. one person takes care of the meat, another the veg etc.

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                              rangersrock May 13, 2007 12:25 PM

                              We are really psyched about the Subway, my son's friends father is a partner and he told us a little about it. First of all, supposedly the VAAD is not letting them sell the parve cheese and supposedly they are pulling it from the other stores in town selling it as well. Also, they are not having the beef fry because it is gross! they did say they will be having a few different types of salami. I for one am really looking forward to them opening good food at good prices sounds good to me!!!

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                                brunodavid May 13, 2007 12:33 PM

                                What's wrong with the pareve cheese????

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                                  justjoshing Nov 25, 2007 08:29 PM

                                  11/23/07: Walked in, walked out.

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                                    JS69 Nov 26, 2007 12:21 AM

                                    Could you elaborate???? Walked in, Walked out dosen't really explain much now does it.

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