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Things that don't necessarily agree with you, but you eat anyway ...?

Are there things that don't necessarily agree with you (gastronomically speaking, of course), but that you eat anyway simply because you like the way they taste?

Sort of like, "I'll put up with the flatulence, the upset stomach, the minor allergic reaction if only I could have another bite of {blank} or another spoonful of {blank}."

With me, I love papaya (all kinds, Mexican, Hawai'ian, SE Asian, etc.) but it generally gives me an upset stomach. Goes away after a while, but still it doesn't really agree with me. Nonetheless, I just can't resist a good, ripe papaya.

So ... who do you listen to? Your gastro-intenstinal and/or immune system? Or, your tastebuds?

If the latter, what screams the loudest to you?

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  1. I tend to get bad heartburn, but I can't resist The Hat's pastrami sandwich and HAVE to have the little yellow chiles with them. Hurts sooooo good---

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    1. re: aurora50

      Yeah, damn those chiles. They stain everything! I still have a yellow-green-ish streak on my jeans from those suckers. Souvenir I guess ...

    2. Beef.
      It gives me awful flatulence and stomach rumblies for hours afterwards. My body just doesn't know how to cope with it.

      But every once in a while, I just have to dig into a big, juicy steak. I can't help myself. The tastebuds win.

      1. definitely the latter. Ever since my intestinal parasite episode, I find that most things, including spinach, too much sugar, quinoa, hoomoos (which you couldn't pay me to stop eating), vegetables, and oatmeal will upset my stomach at least sometimes. I should take better care of myself, but instead I just pretend that I still have my previous stomach of steel.

        funnily enough, cheese, and other dairy, never seem to be a problem...

        1. I have lactose intolerance, and over the years it has gotten better but everytime when I have too much dairy I still have stomach-ache.

          But I can't never resist a big bowl of ice-cream or sundae! Good things come in a price...

          1. 1) canned smoked oysters.
            2) pickled herring.
            3) liverwurst and raw onion sandwich.
            Any of these will eventually wake me up in the night with stomach cramps, but once a year, I gotta have 'em!

            1. Cheese. Lots and lots of cheese.

              1. I had my gall bladder out a few years ago, and lost my ability to comfortably digest fats -- as a result I listen mostly to my taste buds - if I listened to my digestive system I wouldn't eat anything but plain white rice and lemonade.

                Hands down the worst tummy upsetters for me are meat-fats -- I try to avoid eating "chunk o meat and some sides" kind of meals these days.

                But bacon.... bacon calls me with an unholy allure.

                And in a twisted kind of way, the digestive problems really work in my favour as a chowhound -- it's the worlds best excuse for only eating/buying/obsessively hunting for the absolutely best meats I can find -- even non hounds understand the "It has to be good enough to be worth the pain later" rationale.

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                1. re: AnnaEA

                  Same here, although I seem to have more fat tolerance than you do (I've always had a cast-iron stomach). But occasionally a meal with too much saturated fat will really get to me. But life without meat and dairy fat isn't worth living, so I risk it.

                  The other thing: onions. Occasionally (and unfortunately, unpredictably) onions will give me really smelly gas. I love onion soup, but only risk it in situations where the possible consequences wouldn't be a social liability!

                2. chickpeas.

                  Anything with chickpeas.

                  Mr goddess sleeps in another room

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                  1. re: purple goddess

                    I have the strongest stomach of anyone I know, but as you get older, you start to identifiy a few triggers.
                    I know what you mean about the chickpeas. I seem to be able to tolerate them fine in hummus or salads, but greasy Indian curried ones are more problematic. In fact greasy Indian food in general is pretty tough to digest.
                    Ice cream, but I find if I have it in the afternoon instead of the evening it works out better.
                    Candy and cupcakes give me a headache -- I can't indulge in them before lunch but if I've had some protein recently, I can handle them.
                    The only thing that really causes instant heartburn is really huge quantities of garlic, like all the fried garlic left on the plate after consuming a Chinese crab or plate of camarones al ajo. I'm talking like a quarter-cup of minced, fried garlic. So I'll just stick with a few spoonfuls...

                    1. re: purple goddess

                      DH and I BOTH have "consequences" resulting from chickpea consumption! And dammit, we love 'em--Indian style, hummus, on salads...

                      The other thing I still consume, although it makes me congested and my faces flushes beet red, is red wine.

                      1. re: coney with everything

                        Wow. We had falafel last night, and today has been uncomfortable for the both of us. I thought I was sick. No more falafel for us.

                        1. re: uptown jimmy

                          it's interesting that quite a few hounds appear to have digestive issues with garbanzos, but not other legumes. maybe it's the skin that's problematic...?

                    2. two things I eat repeatedly though I know the result is not good:

                      1/ Mangos - excessive quantites, scrapping the meat out with my teeth and getting it all over my face. Eventually, all around my lips gets itchy and upset but it's soooo good to gorge on mangos in season.

                      2/ Fried Rice - I love fried rice but 2/3 times I barf afterwards. I have accepted that I am super sensitive to that rice bacteria. And play roulette anyway

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                      1. re: orangewasabi

                        I thought I had read somewhere (on this board maybe?) that the skin is the usual allergen in mango, not the meat. Have you tried getting the meat out some way where the skin doesn't come in contact with your teeth? not as fun, I know.....

                        1. re: susancinsf

                          Yes, the mango skin can cause a rash in some people...AND its important to know that its more common if the mangos aren't totally ripe. DH used to climb mango trees when he was a boy, and would pick the green mangoes and get horrible rashes. But now he can eat them with no problem as long as they are ripe...

                          1. re: susancinsf

                            yeah, it's the skin that does it. And normally I peel and cut mango to eat it. But sometimes, when they are lush and ripe and in excess. . . I just love to get dirty.

                            1. re: orangewasabi

                              I got an absolutely horrible itchy unsightly rash on the lower half of my face during my senior year of college, and the crack team of doctors and nurse practitioners, even an allergist had no idea what caused it (even though I TOLD them I had eaten a ripe mango.) I can't believe it took chowhound to diagnose my allergy!

                          2. re: orangewasabi

                            Yeah, I have the mango thing, too, but I think I'm more sensitive than you are. Even if someone else cuts the mango for me, I still get puffy, itchy skin on my face. But I gotta eat 'em anyway. There's nothing more delicious than a ripe mango right off the tree. Well, possibly lychees, but that's another story.

                            1. re: orangewasabi

                              Be careful with mangos.

                              I used to get the swelling, itchy lips/throat, too. Then I was in the hospital with anaphylactic shock. I almost died.

                              Don't take food allergies lightly, no matter how minor they seem.

                              1. re: orangewasabi

                                Mangos are in the Anacardiaceae family. Other members of this family include poison ivy, poison oak, and poison sumac! It is the irritant urushiol, the same oil found in their more poisonous cousins, that causes the irritation for some people. Also in this family is the cashew and pistachio, so anyone with a sensitivity to mangos should be careful when eating them too.

                                1. re: orangewasabi

                                  That exact same thing happend to me with the mangos. I looked like someone had punched me in the mouth. When I asked the doctor, the first thing out of his mouth was, "have you eaten any melon or mango?" I have no problem just eating the fruit; it's getting the juice on my skin.

                                2. Orange juice. I have to be excused within 10 minutes. However, it's a good option if ever I need that kind of help...

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                                  1. re: mojoeater

                                    Tomato based sauces always got me, but thanks to Pepcid Complete my taste buds always win out now :) I can handle pizza, spaghetti, and chicken wings.

                                    1. re: mojoeater

                                      My weakness is stopping for lunch in small town Mexican food dives while on a long distance drive. I KNOW it is not a good idea and still fall for it. Sure makes the last five hours buckled and cramped in my car seat a wee bit uncomfortable.

                                    2. The only thing that does it for me is ---Popcorn. Anyone else? Afterwards I feel sicker than a dog.

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                                      1. re: kare_raisu

                                        Yup, popcorn makes me seriously nauseous, for a couple of hours at least - and yet, I eat it. Luckily, DH watches out for me and helps me stop in time most of the time.

                                        1. re: abowes

                                          Movie theater popcorn is thw worst for me (but seriously, what else should I expect from the chemically manufactured fake butter crap)! The "natural" brands of the microwave kind seems to be okay.

                                          1. re: enbell

                                            Oh yeah--movie theatre popcorn makes me oh so very nauseous. I think the gallon of soda that often accompanies it doesn't help...BUT, for the past 5 years or so, I just get it without butter and I feel fine.

                                        2. re: kare_raisu

                                          Haven't had popcorn for years...Just wasn't worth it

                                          1. re: kare_raisu

                                            My husband has the same problem. Still eats it, and suffers for it.

                                          2. Well let's see. yesterday I had two medium size chocolate chip cookies before dinner and then I had another chocolate chip cookie after dinner plus a hazelnut mandelion(sp). Felt gross and slept like crap. This morning had tea and my hawaiian papaya which I love and felt refreshed after eating, but then I had a large slice of pepporoni pizza and another slice of cheese pizza. Again I felt gross and fat and depressed and I think I'm coming down with something. I know better. I hate it when I let my emotions take over the rational part of my brain. Now I'm going to have to start all over again tomorrow and get back into shape. When I stick to healthy foods it really does make me feel so much better, my skin looks better, my mind is clear and I feel thin. Totally let myself down....I feel like a have a loaf of bread with a ton of cheese in my stomach just sitting there...

                                            By the way I'm surprised to hear that papaya upsets your stomach. Papaya has enzymes in it that are very necessary for the body. That sucks that a healthy food upsets you....it's not enough that unhealthy food upset us, but now a healty one...

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                                            1. re: hazelnutty

                                              Actually, a lot of people have sensitivies to raw papaya and pineapple. In many elimination diets, that's one of the first things to go. Same with fermented foods (even though fermentation is supposed to aid in digestion). It really depends on the person.

                                              For me, I tend to eat very spicy foods even though it doesn't really agree with me.

                                              1. re: Miss Needle

                                                That's interesting. What do you mean by fermented foods? Some examples please...

                                                1. re: hazelnutty

                                                  Kimchi, soy sauce, yogurt, creme fraiche, cider, wine, etc.

                                                  1. re: ipsedixit

                                                    Yup. I know so many people who can't handle wine, miso, soy sauce, fish sauce, yogurt. What happens is that a lot of people are burdened by candida (yeast) in their digestive system. When you eat fermented foods, it can promote the growth of yeast in some, causing some digestive difficulty.

                                                    Citrus is another example. Many people are intolerant towards citrus yet keep ingesting it because they read about all the liver cleansing properties, how it prevents colds, etc. If you don't react well to a certain food, try to avoid it in spite of all the literature you read about the beneficial properties. Everybody''s different, and you need to find the right things for you.

                                            2. The gross feeling I have after I don't eat right, just doesn't make these foods worth it anymore. It used to be when I was younger, like who cares, I'll make up for it later blah blah. Now, I can't think that way anymore-I don't have that much youth left...wink wink.

                                              1. Fresh pineapple. No problems with the canned, but the fresh gives me major indigestion.

                                                Really vinagary coleslaw. Ditto.

                                                Coffee. I'm really sensitive to caffeine and I can hear my speech speed up after the first few ounces. But it's soooooo gooooooood.

                                                1. The older I get, the less I can tolerate horseradish. ....but I love the taste and eat it anyway, just in a bit more moderation.....

                                                  1. Bell peppers. Doesn't matter how they're cooked. It started many years ago with minor discomfort, and gradually got worse and worse until I could no longer keep them down once I ate them. At that point, I had to give up the denial. The tastebuds love them, but the stomach won that one.

                                                    Strangely, it doesn't happen with chilies.

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                                                    1. re: Kagey

                                                      I have the same problem but only with the green ones. I can eat red, yellow, etc. in moderation and be find but a green bell pepper leaves me with reflux for hours.

                                                      I also love love love creamier cheeses (goat, some blues, etc.) but they sometimes do a number on my tummy. Hasn't stopped me yet though.

                                                      1. re: Kagey

                                                        I have the same issue w/ peppers; they repeat on me for... days. Luckily, I don't like them anyways. I used to kind of swallow them if they were in something, but I found it's certainly not worth it.

                                                        Honeydew and canteloupe give me a sour throat but love em!

                                                        1. re: Kagey

                                                          Yeah, heartburn city for me, but just from the red ones. Luckily, I'm not in love with them, so it doesn't bother me to leave them out of my diet.

                                                        2. Honey and bananas - allergic, with the throat swelling and tongue tingling and not very pleasant feeling after eating them, but I can't resist them. With the banans, I get the added bonus of intense gas pain and pressure in my chest that more than once I've worried might be a heart attack.

                                                          Onions, of the sauteed or deep fried ring variety. I have irritable bowel syndrome, and onions can be a major trigger for me. But I love sauteed onions on burgers, dogs, sausages, damn near anything else they can be put on. Eating them too often can be a real crap shoot. Erm. Bad pun not intended....

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                                                          1. re: DarkRose

                                                            When I was diagnosed with acid reflux, my docotor told me to avoid the following:
                                                            chocolate, spicy food, caffeine, carbonated beverages, and foods heavy on tomato.

                                                            I then asked him why life would be worth living after that?

                                                            1. re: newbatgirl

                                                              I'm in the same boat, except that I was also told that I should avoid all hot beverages (even decaf), mint, pineapple, fatty foods, fried foods, citrus, and alcohol.

                                                              I'm not doing well on many of those counts.

                                                              1. re: newbatgirl

                                                                Hmmm..especially without chocolate!!!

                                                              2. re: DarkRose

                                                                Bananas! Thought I was the only one. Not allergic, just the heart-attack-like gas and pressure that last for hours and is excessively painful. I always thought it odd, since the BRAT diet - bananas-rice-applesauce-toast - is often precribed by the ubiquitous "they" for morning sickness bouts or post-tummy-flu. Not that misery loves company or anything, but I'm glad I'm not insane!

                                                                Other than bananas, non-fermented milk products in greater than small-ish quantities get the rumblies going. (But good ice cream is so lovely.) Oh, and someone else mentioned green peppers, but not the ripe bells. Same deal - eat 'em Monday, taste 'em still on Wednesday.

                                                                It makes me shake my head that I can't eat bananas and ice cream when I can down lots of hot (hot!) sauce, pickled/smoked fish, black beans seven-ways-from-Sunday, and raw garlic with abandon and not even have to make a discreet burbly noise from behind my napkin. Our stomachs are weird and fickle organs, eh?

                                                                1. re: cayjohan

                                                                  Wow, and here I thought *I* was the crazy one who was imagining the bananas were what caused the pain! I was absolutely SURE that it had to be some kind of bizarre coincidence, the pain that clenches my chest and hurts straight back into my spine, it seems. And something else that's odd? It's only raw bananas that do it to me. If I something like... banana bread, or bread pudding with bananas? Doesn't bother me. If they're at all cooked, it's a non issue. Makes me wonder what it is that does that to us.

                                                                  1. re: DarkRose

                                                                    I'm allergic to bananas too -- the allergy didn't start until my mid-20s. My throat would get really itchy and my stomach felt disgusting, so I avoid them at all costs now (and carry Benadryl wherever I go). Also allergic to champagne of all things. Something about the sulfites and the yeast.

                                                                      1. re: chef4hire

                                                                        highly unlikely, unless the symptoms also occur after eating other potassium-rich foods like cantaloupe, tomatoes, papaya, apricots, etc.

                                                                        plus, it's not as though cooking the banana "deactivates" or kills the potassium. however, cooking does denature/kill enzymes, so it's probably a sensitivity to an enzyme.

                                                                  2. re: DarkRose

                                                                    If you have such serious allergy that your throat swells, don't ever again in your life eat these foods. You might die if the throat swells too much. Also, go to the allergist or your family doctor and get a prescription for Epi-Pen and instructions on how to use it. Epi-Pen is used in serious allergic reactions as a life-saving medicine.

                                                                  3. I have a minor allergy to avocados and mangos, but I still can't stop eating them. I'll sit around clearing my throat for hours after, but I can't resist. Avocado more so than mango.

                                                                    1. Garlic, especially raw, and deadly when mixed with dairy or egg. I eat Tzatziki and Caesar salad anyway, then suffer a half hour later.

                                                                      1. Coffee. Which I compound on by adding flavored creamer even though I am lactose intolerant. Everyonce in a very long while I will savor a cup of coffee alongside a huge glass of water, to dilute it. Coffee and heavily caffeinated sodas (Pepsi, Mountain Dew) all make my stomach cringe.
                                                                        Orange juice is so bad I never risk it. I have long memories of drinking a glass of orange juice with lots of ice. Surprsingly, Lemonade and Grapefruit juice have no affect on me.
                                                                        Dairy gives me headaches but I live for cheese and will never give it up. DH asked me why I never serve a meal without sneaking cheese in somewhere.
                                                                        What makes it interesting is that I never had any problems until after I had my daughter.

                                                                        1. More than one slice of bacon after 12-noon will give me such horrific stomach pains starting about three hours after I fall asleep.

                                                                          Something about bacon fat and lying horizontally when I sleep = blech.

                                                                          EK

                                                                          1. Well I eat all types of cheese, ice cream, and dairy in general but I am lactose intolerant......lol.

                                                                            1. Bananas give me heartburn if I eat them on an empty stomach, but I do anyway. I have a particularly affinity for the incredibly over ripe ones.
                                                                              Apple juice, orange juice, or really any juice for that matter makes me nauseous if I drink more than about 4oz. at a time. It has to do with the sweetness I think.
                                                                              Also, anything greasy or fried makes me sicker than a dog. For the most part I just avoid it, but on the occasions I indulge I am the girl dabbing the top of the pizza with napkins or patting down the onion rings, french fries etc. to remove excess grease.

                                                                              1. Seafood cooked in a cream sauce. Especially in the presence of a glass of wine. Can't keep it down. Unfortunately it took 2 or 3 times for me to figure this out, so now I just stay away from seafood alfredo, lobster newburg, etc. I can eat seafood just fine, and can eat creamy sauces just fine... just not together.

                                                                                1. Cookies and cream ice cream. Gives me heartburn every time. I still will have it on occasion, but only the high quailty brands. The cheap stuff isn't worth the latter pain.

                                                                                  1. I'm lucky to have a mostly iron stomach (or an ability to just blithely ignore any discomfort and treat it as normal) but I'm now pregnant, and the heartburn has set in. So, rather unfortunately, has my strong craving for sour things, including lemonade. And the fact that lemonade (and oddly enough, goldfish crackers) give me heartburn does not stop me from partaking ...

                                                                                    1. I do have a tendency toward frequent heartburn, which is exacarbated by acidic foods like orange juice or tomato sauces. I don't let it really affect my eating habits though, although I do try to moderate the amount of some of these items (or at least make sure to take Pepcid first.)

                                                                                      1. Pizza Hut pan pizza - must be the oil that gets me. But it's so good, it's almost worth the gastrointestinal distress!

                                                                                        1. For those of you with acid reflux, I've found that, in addition to some occasional medication, not eating for three to four hours before I go to sleep helps me with stomach issues. My doc said that lying down too soon after eating is no good. So I try to make sure we have an early dinner whever possible. The upside to this is, I'm always famished for the most improtant meal of the day - breakfast! :)

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                                                                                          1. re: newbatgirl

                                                                                            Also, food combining is a very powerful tool against many of these problems. It's been funny to read how many of these food probelms I share. But knowing when to eat, and what to eat in any one sitting, is sooooo helpful.

                                                                                            And moderation. Don't forget moderation. Which is hard with things like chicken wings, of course....

                                                                                          2. Any dessert with zabaglione (sabayon). THose raw egg yolks i guess...and Fritos chips

                                                                                            1. My death-by-garlic caesar salad is so laden with garlic and anchovy paste that I awaken about 2:30 feeling like I have crawled across the sands of the Sahara on my elbows in search for a drink of water from a truck radiator. Also, one of my favorites is a monster BLTA sandwich for dinner, which had the same effect until I found a lower salt bacon. For the former, for which there are no substitute ingredients allowed, I just take the pain and keep a liter of water on my bedside table. Chilled water would hurt my teeth and give me cramps- I'm selective about my pain. And pleasures :)

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                                                                                              1. re: Veggo

                                                                                                Eggs (for breakfast) sometimes give me the s__ts, but I love them so much. I wonder what it is about them?

                                                                                                1. re: aurora50

                                                                                                  Add a cup of coffee and a newspaper, and I think you have described the start of a perfectly wonderful day :)

                                                                                                  1. re: aurora50

                                                                                                    Coffee-I drink only decaf and its a habit I picked up late in life (damn vanilla latte!). If I drink it after 11 am, I am up all night and I always feel like it was snorted, not sipped. Hate the feeling and still drink it 4 x week.

                                                                                                    Garlic-I am Italian and it is part of me and it makes me sick and I love it.

                                                                                                    Indian Food-Once a week I swear NEVER AGAIN! I pray that day never comes.

                                                                                                    Wine-Headaches

                                                                                                    Tequila-same

                                                                                                    Love Wine and margaritias with fresh lime juice, cointreau and patron gold.

                                                                                                    1. re: Densible

                                                                                                      Does all wine give you a headache, or is it specifically reds or whites? I know red wine headaches are pretty common, but for me, white wine will make my head throb, while red never bothers me at all. White will also intoxicate me faster.

                                                                                                    2. re: aurora50

                                                                                                      the whites have to be cooked thoroughly for me, otherwise, run, run run away to the ladies' room! same issue with ANY TINY BIT of wilted lettuce/spinach/green leaf on a salad.

                                                                                                  2. When I was in my teens and twenties, two hours or so after eating softshell crab I would get violently ill. I loved the little creatures so much, though, that every spring I'd eat them again, and every time I'd get sick. Suddenly, one night in my thirties, I ate them with impunity and have never gotten sick from eating them since.

                                                                                                    1. Surprisingly, the more common gastro problems here are acid reflux, but I have divertiular problems... and Tortilla chips (Nachos) feel like shards of glass in my lower abdomen.... they get stuck, no matter how "Finely" I chew them. But One local Mexican joint serves hot, homemade ones with great homemade salsa. I can't stop. Also, I guess being from New England.... Fried Clams can be a killer if they're too greasy or the cooking oil hasn't been changed. Boy, what a way to self inflict a punishment... Eat foods that rip you up. I guess we all do it !

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                                                                                                      1. re: Buddernut

                                                                                                        You need to order a side of flour tortillas -(tortillas de harina)- warm, soft, and scoop your share of the spicy goopy stuff with a cuchara. Ipswich clams? I'm a yankee, too. We just take the pain.

                                                                                                      2. A few years ago I was ill. Seriously ill. Three months in hospital ill. Before the illness, I could eat pretty much anything I wanted without problems. After the illness, all things acidic just about kill me. I'll risk tomato juice occasionally but a glass of lemonade will put me in terrible pain. Another downside is acids now give me a lovely red skin rash all over my face. Does it stop me from having the once in awhile piece of lasange? Hell no. I just make sure I have no plans for the next day, lest I scare children.

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                                                                                                          1. re: Veggo

                                                                                                            No problem with the creamy stuff. Just the acidic.

                                                                                                        1. Eggplant....it makes my throat sooo itchy, but I still can't resist it.

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                                                                                                          1. re: Put a Sake in it

                                                                                                            Eggplant makes my gums kind of sting, it's weird. I can almost count on this if the dish is eggplant parm. If it's a Chinese/Japanese dish the chances are less likely. Is this due to the types of eggplant used, or the way they are cooked?

                                                                                                            1. re: enbell

                                                                                                              I was under the impression that it had something to do with the skin of the eggplant.

                                                                                                              1. re: Put a Sake in it

                                                                                                                Ah, so thats it... I've always wondered why I sometimes get an itchy tongue after scarfing eggplant. But its only sometimes... maybe it also has something to do with how cooking (raw v. overcooked) changes the skin?

                                                                                                                1. re: S U

                                                                                                                  I have the same problem with fresh button mushrooms

                                                                                                            2. re: Put a Sake in it

                                                                                                              my mom has thyroid and she can't eat eggplant or soy. If you're a woman you may want to get your thyroid checked out.

                                                                                                              1. re: hazelnutty

                                                                                                                Usually they tell you not to eat soy because it can block the ability of the body to absorb thyroid. You won't get an immediate allergic type reaction.

                                                                                                                1. re: hazelnutty

                                                                                                                  Eggplant & soy are said to affect your thyroid? Really? I never heard that. I have hypo and eat both w/o problems. Hmmpf.

                                                                                                                  (I just read tobycat's post about soy... my doc never told me that!)

                                                                                                                  1. re: lynnlato

                                                                                                                    unfortunately it's not common knowledge. i had to give up soy years ago following my thyroid diagnosis. sucked when i was a vegetarian...really limited my options. thank god i started eating meat again because now i can't have any gluten either! [so long, seitan.]

                                                                                                                    the specific issue with soy & thyroid is the phytoestrogens in soy...they bind thyroid hormone & inhibit the body's absorption & utilization of synthroid [or whatever replacement you're on]. you may not feel an immediate reaction if you're not overly sensitive...but eat enough of it for an extended period of time & you may experience hypothyroid symptoms even if your TSH levels are "normal."

                                                                                                                    i've never heard about a concern with eggplant, and i eat it all the time without any problem. i'd better not have to give that up too...

                                                                                                              2. Bagels with lox and cream cheese. I have guaranteed heartburn afterward, abetted by lots of seltzer.

                                                                                                                1. My tastebuds ALWAYS win..or lose however you want to look at it...I will eat Indian Food and jalapenos, but I do pay a bit for it....That does not tend to stop me though...

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                                                                                                                  1. re: jinet12

                                                                                                                    Only cinnamon, and the last time I made this wonderful mousakka, I was up all night long with heartburn. Then came the pumpkin pie. Again same thing, oh well. I will suffer through it. I swear afterwards though that I am having a "red haird child".

                                                                                                                  2. I'm lactose-intolerant... I switched to lactose-free milk because I can have it with impunity but there's no way I was going to stop eating icecream (and there's only one kind of lactose-free icecream out there and that's boring vanilla), so I just have to be ready to pay the price later!
                                                                                                                    I'm also pretty intolerant of fats in general... I get horrible heartburn after eating fried or greasy foods, like pastry and pizza. I try not to eat them unless I REALLY want them, but sometimes it's worth the indigestion...

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                                                                                                                    1. re: Kajikit

                                                                                                                      Nothing digestive, but leg cramps during the night after every sushi meal. Never fails and the only food that does it. Doesn't seem to matter what I drink or how much ... water, tea, wine, beer. Someone told me to put a bar of soap in my bed. Seriously.

                                                                                                                      1. re: birgator

                                                                                                                        Could be it be the soy sauce? There is a lot of sodium in it that can make your legs feel heavy,

                                                                                                                        1. re: birgator

                                                                                                                          I don't have leg cramp problems but my mom does, and she SWEARS by her bar of soap - no joke!

                                                                                                                            1. re: newbatgirl

                                                                                                                              It's an old wives tale. Just like a cat whisker is supposed to cure a sty.

                                                                                                                              1. re: newbatgirl

                                                                                                                                I did some looking into, and while there are countless personal testamonies in support of using soap, none provided medical explanations for their effectiveness. Sorry!

                                                                                                                                1. re: enbell

                                                                                                                                  Don't know about any medical explanations, but personally know two people who tried it and it worked! Go figure....If I had that problem, I would certainly give it a try anyway....

                                                                                                                        2. I love, love, love the El Yucateco brand green habanero hot sauce. I eat it on tacos/fajitas/just about anything about twice a week, and when I do I'm guaranteed to have 2-3 episodes of "stomach cramps" the next morning. The kind where it feels like you're passing molten lava. But I eat it anyway.

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                                                                                                                          1. re: Pete G.

                                                                                                                            White Castles, especially the onion chips...but I can't help myself

                                                                                                                            1. re: Pete G.

                                                                                                                              Oranges and pineapple give me indigestion or make my throat itch. Oranges and pineapple aren't worth it to me so I don't indulge. If I eat peanut butter, which I love, too close to bedtime I get terrible acid reflux.

                                                                                                                              I'm surprised at the people who said that yogurt gives them heartburn. Yogurt is good for get rid of gut yeast and also supposed to be good for the digestive tract. Anytime I eat it I burp about 5 minutes after finishing and feel cleansed.

                                                                                                                              Birgator, the next time you have sushi try taking some potassium supplements before going to bed. That should help with those leg cramps.

                                                                                                                            2. Could not resist this with 79 replies.
                                                                                                                              I get IBS not good!! so Alcohol, chocolate, some fruits, and anything too runny like creamy sauce or curry can get my belly. I pay for it badly the next day my stomach sound like a washing machine and lets just say that the toilet and I are best friends....you just got to live life though cannot beat a good ole chocolate bar or baileys on ice!!

                                                                                                                              1. Headaches from raw garlic...but I love it so! Thankfully it takes a fair amount to induce the headache, so usually I'm ok, but every once in a while, I throw caution to the wind and make my burns-so-good raw garlic laden pesto and suffer the consequences.

                                                                                                                                1. Fresh Jalepenos. I can eat them cooked, for some reason, in chili or other Mexican things, but the diced fresh jalepenos will always get me the next day. If only they weren't so tasty!!!

                                                                                                                                  Buffalo anything will do the same thing.

                                                                                                                                  I usually listen to my taste buds and deal with it the next day, unless planning a long car ride or something=)

                                                                                                                                  1. most dairy...creamed soups, cream sauces, ice cream, cheesecake, etc.

                                                                                                                                    I usually check in with my dining (and sleeping!) companion before going ahead with such indulgence. "Honey, would you mind if I flatulate for the rest of the night so I can now enjoy....?" !

                                                                                                                                    1. Tabasco Slim Jims. Not only do they give me halitosis worse than a reclamation truck they pretty much tear me up. I'd like to think that I have a goat's stomach but Slim Jims are deadly...but so delicious.

                                                                                                                                      The other thing that tears me up is a majority of fast food, Denny's, & IHOP. It must be the over-processing or whatever they do makes me sick for hours. That really doesn't bother me at all really.

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                                                                                                                                      1. re: hooliganyouth

                                                                                                                                        Mole. God, I love Mole but my digestive track doesn't. Not to mention my Lactose intolerance which has severly limited my cheese intake.

                                                                                                                                          1. re: hooliganyouth

                                                                                                                                            It's the salt-they don't use sea salt if you get my drift--it's probably the oil they use to cook the food in/on as well, among other things...

                                                                                                                                          2. Watermellon (actually all mellons [and lychee]), but it's watermellon that I can't resist. My tongue and throat get tingly, and then i loose my voice - not all my friends agree this is a problem

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                                                                                                                                            1. re: KaimukiMan

                                                                                                                                              I love korean kim chee, but the downside is I reek of garlic. I love garlic but I cannot stand the smell of garlic on my person or other people.
                                                                                                                                              My wife always knows when I had my kim chee fix : )

                                                                                                                                              1. re: Pakkai

                                                                                                                                                Concord Grapes make me sick and yet I eat them every season and I'm even growing them in my garden this year!

                                                                                                                                              2. re: KaimukiMan

                                                                                                                                                Interesting! I get the exact same reaction from anything with malt powder in it. Malted milk duds, for example, and my mouth feels funny and I can't squeak out a word for a good half hour afterwards. My friends rarely complain about this, too :).

                                                                                                                                              3. Chili. That nasty, greasy, delicious meat-only chili that Pink's puts on their hot dogs, and Tommy's puts on their chiliburgers. Just thinking about that chili gives me goosebumps--and not the good kind. I still can't resist it, although I eat it only about once a year.

                                                                                                                                                1. Luckily I'm not allergic to any foods (that I know of at least) and my stomach's not too shabby (no heartburn, etc. Maybe I'm young?), but some things I try to eat only when I'm not going to be in a public environment soon afterwards. Beans, chickpeas, kimchi (sighh no kimchi jigae when I'm heading out to the gym afterwards), broccoli. Too bad I love those. More like too bad for everyone else.

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                                                                                                                                                  1. re: janethepain

                                                                                                                                                    broccoli, yes that is a real pooter.

                                                                                                                                                  2. It's funny. All of a sudden, I am no longer able to drink coffee. I'm really ticked about that. It gives me uncontrollable heartburn in my throat when I sleep. No medicines that I have tried get rid of it, so I've had to give it up. But I cannot give up my coffee frozen yogurt. I just go real easy on it. No more than 1/4 cup!

                                                                                                                                                    Another thing that I'm having problems with (of the smelly sort) are beans and lentils. But I cannot give up an occasional bean and rice burrito, or a hearty bowl of lentil soup in the fall. I just won't eat them when I am bound to be with others afterward.

                                                                                                                                                    1. Salami...and I just had some on a sandwich about an hour ago...starting to kill my stomach.

                                                                                                                                                      1. When I first dig into really spicy hot and sour soup, I hiccup like crazy. Doesn't deter me in the least;)

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                                                                                                                                                        1. re: monavano

                                                                                                                                                          yes, monavano, I start to cough with those spicy soups (like thai soups). totally worth it, though.

                                                                                                                                                        2. i've got the iron stomach too (my theory is it's a 'hound thing, since we likely eat the most diverse offerings of food so we're just used to it)... but two things that set me off are cumin and vodka. both turn my neck bright red and splotchy. ugly, yes, but not bad enough to keep me away.

                                                                                                                                                          1. Blueberries and cherries. Might have something to do with the fact that I feel compelled to gorge on them when they're in season.

                                                                                                                                                            1. Whenever I drink apple juice, the commercially available bottled kind that is pasturized, clarified etc, I start coughing uncontrollably. I remember being this way since a small child, and never wanting to drink the apple juice served at school etc.
                                                                                                                                                              Strangely, I have no ill effects from raw, fresh from the press apple cider. Not a problem with me, I much prefer the "real thing" from freshly squeezed apples!

                                                                                                                                                              1. As someone with Crohn's Disease, I'd wager that the list of foods that I can't eat is probably about the same length as the list of foods that I can. I have to reconvince myself that butter is a moderate no-no every few weeks (I love it so, but it gives me wicked tummy gurgles and bloating), and the same with ice cream. Oddly, hard cheeses that are cooked are just fine, though. Fried eggs over easy are similar to butter, and once in awhile, I need my fix, no matter the price. Greasy food will have me in quite a bit of pain, but on occasion, I can't go any longer without it. Anything with any kind of significant quantities of added MSG and I'm in bed for two days in the throes of agony with a fever of 103F, so that's one that I've definitely given up for good, although being a lover of Asian food, occasionally I accidentally consume it and then hate myself for it.

                                                                                                                                                                1. My IBS has evolved for the better, probably because I'm on a low fat diet now. The last time I had both steak and pizza on the same day, a couple of weeks ago, it started up again. Had pizza once since then - all okay. Now I'm dying for a nice slab of beef. Next time shell steaks are on sale I'll try it again.

                                                                                                                                                                  Coffee, even decaf keeps me up. Chocolate too. If I don't have to be up early, or can deal with a lack of sleep I'll have either. A good cup of coffee is so rare, but so worth it.

                                                                                                                                                                  1. Nacho Cheese Doritos. Yes, I pay the heartburn price, but now with high blood pressure, i cannot afford the sodium. ;(

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                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: alkapal

                                                                                                                                                                      Doritos are evil for so many reasons. They always make me feel so sick, and I know I'm not alone there, but they're always worth it again when the tummy ache's gone.
                                                                                                                                                                      Fresh pineapple is amazing but I have a severe allergy to it now, so I can't even sneak pieces anymore. My mouth waters just thinking about it, though.

                                                                                                                                                                    2. when it comes to wine, my taste buds usually win. i have a mild allergy to alcohol, and i can easily live wiithout every other alcoholic beverage in existence...but i almost always give in to the grape. makes me sick as a dog, but i just can't resist.

                                                                                                                                                                      unfortunately when it comes to gluten, my health wins over my taste buds. the physical consequences are so horrible and last for so long that i just can't do it to myself. god how i miss pizza and REAL baked goods.

                                                                                                                                                                      you know it's bad when you're so deprived that you're actually envious of someone you see buying bran cereal at the grocery store.

                                                                                                                                                                      1. My mom makes awesome potato latkes.

                                                                                                                                                                        And she really works hard to keep the grease.oil to a minimum. My dad has a bad heart.

                                                                                                                                                                        But I can only eat one or two. No matter what she does, they are too greasy for me and they make me sick. All potato latkes make me sick, actually, but my mom's are the only one's I'll get sick to eat.

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                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: PaulF

                                                                                                                                                                          I *adore* eggs but they tend to cause odoriferous problems and stomach cramps so I have to avoid them, although it's worse with fried eggs and hard-boiled eggs. I can tolerate scrambled a bit more.

                                                                                                                                                                          I also loooove raw onion in sandwiches (sliced, or diced and mixed in tuna salad, chicken salad, etc.) but I have a horrible time digesting them and again, the odor issue.

                                                                                                                                                                          For those of you who suffer after eating papaya and pineapple, I read somewhere once that those two fruits have enzymes that help break down proteins and that Polynesians used to eat generous slices of papaya after large meals to aid in digestion. The papain in papaya is used to make meat tenderizer, so you are essentially tenderizing the tissues of your stomach when you eat papaya. You might better enjoy this fruit if you consume it after eating a protein.

                                                                                                                                                                        2. I'm horribly, terribly, please-kill-me-ly lactose intolerant, but will play Russian Roulette with my body for good cheese and occasionally ice cream. Bananas also have the same effect, but I love banana cream pie.

                                                                                                                                                                          Raw shellfish gives me hives, but that doesn't mean I've stopped eating shrimp.

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                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: JungMann

                                                                                                                                                                            stick to hard or aged cheeses...the fermentation, enzymatic reactions, and aging all contribute to a drastic reduction in lactose content.

                                                                                                                                                                            yogurt WITHOUT added milk solids should also be easier for you to digest.

                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: goodhealthgourmet

                                                                                                                                                                              Yeah, I saw that mentioned on the boards last week, so when I went to a cheese tasting at Whole Foods on Thursday, I stuck to the super-aged cheddars and goudas, thinking that I would be fine as long as everything was aged.

                                                                                                                                                                              Fast forward to me turning green and getting super sick in the middle of the check-out line and having to embarassedly explain to my companion why I needed to ditch her right that second. I think this bit of foodie "science" might be a rumor.

                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: JungMann

                                                                                                                                                                                That sounds much more like a dairy allergy than a lactose intolerance. Lactose intolerance is lack of the enzyme lactase and produces symptoms much lower in the GI tract and somewhat later in time.

                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: AmyH

                                                                                                                                                                                  I was trying to be discreet about the symptoms. Rest assured it's lactose intolerance, the symptoms of which are terribly embarassing at the grocery store.

                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: JungMann

                                                                                                                                                                                    you poor thing. i promise you, it's not a "rumor" - the science behind the theory/suggestion is quite sound. you just obviously have a very severe case of lactose intolerance.

                                                                                                                                                                                    at least whole foods usually has good restrooms :)

                                                                                                                                                                          2. Bacon. 3 or 4 strips with breakfast on a Sunday morning inevitably leads to some room-clearing wind. I'll never give it up, though. A cup of coffee, bacon & eggs, and an open window is all I need for a Sunday.

                                                                                                                                                                            1. I just tried these last night, but they're definitely going to turn into a "worth the consequences" food. It's something called Squez'n'Bites. I think they're chinese (they were sold in the "Global Foods" section of my megamart) and they're like tiny jell-o cups full of lychee-flavored gelatin with coconut chunks. I absolutely fell in love with them, but a few minutes after eating one, my whole face and neck got hot and itchy. I don't know if it was the lychee or the locust bean gum (those were the two ingredients I'd never had before).

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                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: Mangojane

                                                                                                                                                                                lychee allerfgies are really rare...but do you know if perhaps you're sensitive or allergic to carob? locust bean is closely related.

                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: goodhealthgourmet

                                                                                                                                                                                  see, good health gourmet, the ubiquitous "gum" strikes again. (i concede it may not be the gum that is creating the allergy...)

                                                                                                                                                                                  and Mangojane, be very careful, because those little treats may be deadly for you if you are having allergic reactions! It is NOT "worth it."

                                                                                                                                                                              2. Barbecue shredded pork for some reason always gives me a stomach ache. And, usually when I eat a good steak, I wind up with a stomach ache too...not fair!

                                                                                                                                                                                1. Tomato sauces give me indigestion. and husband loves pasta with tomato sauce.

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                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: alkapal

                                                                                                                                                                                    It might be the acid in the tomatoes upsetting your stomach. Try adding a little baking soda (like 1/4 tsp) to your sauce while it's cooking, to neutralize the acid.

                                                                                                                                                                                  2. Bananas. I don't eat them regularly anymore, because they cause this weird heartburn thing, but I do love a good banana dessert sometimes.

                                                                                                                                                                                    Walnuts. I get a mild allergic reaction where my mouth tingles unpleasantly. I can't eat baklava or derby pie anymore, but I'll still eat a cookie or brownie with walnuts or a salad with walnuts.