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Apr 17, 2007 10:48 AM

Why is it so hard to find a burger in this city?

I read recently that city regulations don't allow beef to be cooked medium rare? But then how does that explain getting a steak rare? The first sign that you're getting a good burger should be when you are asked how you want it cooked. I've never once been asked that in Toronto. I went to three different bars in Chicago over a long weekend, and each asked me how I wanted my burger, and each time they blew Toronto's options out of the water. Forget Hero. That place offers the most bland, tasteless patty I've ever had. Just because you put brie or avocado on a beef patty does not make your burger great. It's insulting to their customers that they adverstise themselves as gourmet.

It shouldn't be that hard to walk into a pub and expect a fresh ground beef patty. My feeling is, most bars in this city are corporate owned. So their food is going to suck.

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    1. I always take my steak blue and my burger medium well. It's the abundance of 'bland' burgers that are the problem, not cooking it to the cleanest point. Try Weezie's for an example of good & clean.

      1. Have you tried Allen's? You can get their burger medium rare and it is (99% of the time) excellent.

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        1. re: Vise

          I appreciate the suggestion, but I'm not a fan of Allen's service. Stopped going long ago.

          1. re: Googs

            Yes the service sucks, but the burger definitely does not. Worth it IMO, I can put up with a bit of crappy service for a hot, juicy, medium rare burger.

            1. re: Googs

              I can't condone the service at Allen's, though it isn't actually bad ALL of the time. But I don't know of a better restaurant burger anywhere in Toronto at any price. And if it isn't cooked to my liking, I have no reservations about sending it back - which I have done (unfortunately) more than once.

              1. re: embee

                I'll suffer through the service for an awesome Bloody mary (provided you get a mary, not a ceasar), the sweet potato fries and the awesome burger.
                But only once every few months or else I'd lose my mind over the service issues.

                1. re: nummanumma

                  We went there again last night. The usual perfect burger and okay sweet potato fries. Service - by a short, young, blond waitress - was impeccable. But I have experienced the other kind of service there as well.

                  I'd be much happier at places where two burgers, one order of fries, and two beers didn't cost $45, but the owners need to get the message that they CAN cook burgers to taste in Toronto without getting closed down.

                  1. re: embee

                    I get great service and a great burger every single time I go to Weezie's.

                    If I can't relax while dining out because I'm playing 'find the server', what's the point? The alternative to bad service is stay at home and keep my money.

          2. I vote just go to johnny's, and stop worrying about brie.

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