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Arizona Byobs

azwino Apr 10, 2007 04:44 PM

Hello all. Just seeking to expand my list of any and all places in Arizona that allow you to bring your own wine. I already know about Guiseppe's in Phoenix and Scottsdale, Atlas Bistro, Cyclo, Coupe des Tartes, Doobie's in Mesa and an Ethiopian Place in Tucson.

Corkage is not an issue.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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  1. silverbear RE: azwino Apr 10, 2007 04:59 PM

    Not counting chains that may be subject to corporate policies, I think that many places that do not have liquor licenses will allow you to BYOB -- unless the proprietor has a religious or cultural objection to alcohol. The key is finding restaurants you like that do not have liquor licenses. If a restaurant has a liquor license, BYOB is not supposed to be allowed.

    You've basically named the relevant fine dining establishments in your original post. The only other options I can think of are strip-mall ethnic restaurants like Noodles Ranch (Vietnamese) and Udupi (Indian). Neither has a liquor license and both have been happy to allow BYOB when I have visited. Still, it's always best to call ahead to be sure.

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    1. re: silverbear
      Grey RE: silverbear Apr 10, 2007 11:59 PM

      Sophie's Bistro in Phoenix is also BYOB:

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        silverbear RE: Grey Apr 11, 2007 06:25 AM

        Really? There's a wine list on the Web site, and restaurants with liquor licenses generally cannot allow customers to bring their own alcohol on the premises.

        1. re: silverbear
          Grey RE: silverbear Apr 11, 2007 05:36 PM

          Hmmm. Maybe recently things have changed (???). I haven't been in a few, but I'm fairly positive Sophie's used to be a BYOB establishment.

          1. re: Grey
            silverbear RE: Grey Apr 11, 2007 05:41 PM

            Some establishments are BYOB at first while they work on their licenses.

            1. re: silverbear
              Bill Hunt RE: silverbear May 25, 2007 08:53 PM

              That would be interesting. Serge has a nice little wine list, though I always urge him to kick it up another notch, especially with regards to their mid-range FR offerings.

              It seems that there is an AZ law, concerning the # of tables, with a license, that determines if the establishment can legally allow BYOB. I cannot recall that #, but it's fairly low.

              OTOH, being in the International Wine & Food Society, we often do wine dinners, and negotiate BYO[Wine]. For these events, we usually have the entire establishment, so most restauranteurs just close their eyes, and we don't say anything to anyone about it. If I told you who these restauranteurs were, "I'd have to kill you... "

              Maybe someone with some serious legal knowledge of liquor laws in AZ can chime in, and give us the "real" rules. Pat Martin, are you listening?


    2. ciaogal RE: azwino Apr 10, 2007 04:59 PM

      Gourmet House of Hong Kong on McDowell...it's more fitting of a 'bring your own beer'

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        blur RE: azwino Apr 10, 2007 05:12 PM

        Slice of Sicily - great pizza @ 36th St. & Indian School in the northwest corner strip of shops behind Autumn Court

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          Seth Chadwick RE: blur Apr 10, 2007 05:38 PM

          Just a slight correction, blur. It is 38th Street.

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            misohungrychewlow RE: Seth Chadwick Apr 10, 2007 08:50 PM

            I've never done BYO in Arizona, but coincidentally I was looking at Coup de Tarts' web site earlier today and in discussiing their BYO status they wrote something about Arizona law limiting the amount to 24 oz. of beer per person and 6 oz. of wine per person. Is this true??? Does this mean a couple could not legally bring a 750 ml bottle of wine with them, much less two to provide choice/variety, but would be limited to toting a half-bottle max? Even a half-bottle, at 375 ml, is a little more than 6 oz. per person -- what gives? An inquiring mind wants to know!

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              silverbear RE: misohungrychewlow Apr 10, 2007 09:37 PM

              Wow. I'd never heard that, but I found the regs and pasted them below. They also place limits on the size of the restaurant involved and require notification of the state, so my answer above was probably too broad. I've never heard of the possession limitation being stricly enforced, though. My guess is that the extra ounce or two in a 750 ml wine bottle is generally disregarded. In general, Arizona is not a favorable climate for BYOB. That doesn't bother me because I generally find BYOB more trouble than it's worth, but I can see how it might bother serious oenophiles.

              R19-1-315. Exemptions to A.R.S. § 4-244.05

              Small restaurants, catering establishments, associations, and business establishments hosting private social functions are exempt from A.R.S. § 4-244.05 if the business establishment meets all of the following conditions:

              1. The possession or consumption of spirituous liquor on the premises is limited to wine and beer and is permitted as an incidental convenience to patrons of the business establishment.

              2. The business establishment limits possession or consumption of wine or beer on the premises to the hours between noon and 10 p.m.

              3. The business establishment or premises allows a patron to possess no more than 24 ounces of beer per person, or 6 ounces of wine per person to be consumed on the premises.

              4. The business establishment notifies the Department on a form prescribed by the Department that it permits patrons to consume or possess beer or wine on the premises.

              5. The business establishment and/or its proprietor, manager, comptroller, controlling person, or employee shall comply with A.R.S. Title 4, Chapters 1, 2, and 3, and 19 A.A.C. 1.

              6. The business establishment and/or its proprietor, manager, comptroller, controlling person, or employee shall not permit the number of patrons within the business establishment to exceed the maximum occupancy limitations. The maximum occupancy limitations are:

              a. Small restaurant: shall not exceed 40 patrons.

              b. Catering establishment: shall not exceed 300 patrons.

              c. Associations: shall not exceed 300 patrons.

              d. Business establishments hosting private social functions: shall not exceed 300 patrons.

              7. If any clause, sentence, subsection, Section, or part of this act shall be adjudged by any court of competent jurisdiction to be invalid, such judgment shall not affect, impair, or invalidate the remainder thereof, but shall be confined in its operation to the clause, sentence, subsection, Section or part thereof directly involved in the controversy in which such judgment shall have been rendered.

              1. re: silverbear
                Ed Dibble RE: silverbear Apr 11, 2007 08:19 AM

                Never heard of it being enforced in Yuma. But should someone complain, who knows? I'm certainly not going to inform my favorite Cantonese joint about the laws - how can you have party with only 6 ozs. of wine?


                1. re: silverbear
                  Bill Hunt RE: silverbear May 25, 2007 09:01 PM


                  Thanks for the post. This is what I was alluding to, in my later post - teach me to NOT read every article in a thread. OTOH, I found this thread from a much more recent one, and seem to have missed this one, when it was going.


                2. re: misohungrychewlow
                  ccl1111 RE: misohungrychewlow Apr 10, 2007 10:01 PM

                  that can't be right. had friends that went there (5 of them) that brought 5 bottles of wine and drank them all.

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                    misohungrychewlow RE: ccl1111 Apr 10, 2007 10:31 PM

                    Lamentable ... the 2-beer limit is barely justifiable (not really), but the 6-ounce thing is downright tyannical -- why bother? Not even enough to wash down two courses ... Obviously it's not being enforced or the oeniphiles would have stormed the Legislature -- drop everything and write your senator & representatives -- NOW!!!

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              dwhitne1 RE: azwino May 26, 2007 03:49 PM

              Their is a new japanese eatery family owned awesome food sushi and elegant dinners, all authentic, reasonably priced. Their liquor lic. pending they let you bring your own drinks. It is in the Silvia's strip mall on 7th ave and missouri st. great little place

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                Bill Hunt RE: dwhitne1 May 26, 2007 06:41 PM

                Hm-m, sounds interesting, and not too far from home. We'll give it a try.


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                  silverbear RE: dwhitne1 May 27, 2007 07:51 AM

                  That's Hana, which has been discussed in glowing terms on this board in several threads lately.

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                  Herr Wagstaff RE: azwino Sep 3, 2007 06:52 PM

                  The Spinato's Pizzeria at 12th Street & Glendale is BYOB.....we've been enjoying this place for years. Note that there's at least 4 Spinato's in Phx, this is the only one I'm sure of that's BYOB. No corkage fee, and they supply wine openers and chilled beer mugs.


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