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Good quality Extra Virgin Olive Oil (EVOO)--Recs?

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alag77 Apr 8, 2007 07:08 PM

I'm a girl who is happy with Trader Joe's EVOO for regular cooking. However, I have a suspicion that when a recipe calls for "good quality" EVOO, they were not thinking of Trader "Giotto." Does anyone have good recommendations for good quality EVOO (and perferably something that doesn't break the bank)? It would also be good to recommend something that is available nationwide in markets or something I can get in the Los Angeles area where I live. Something available only regionally in, say, New Jersey doesn't help me much (unless I can mail order it). I would appreciate any thoughts or suggestions. Thanks in advance.

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  1. vickib RE: alag77 Apr 8, 2007 07:18 PM

    Actually, Trader Joe's has some nice higher quality EVOO's. They're not exactly artisanal, but, you can find a nice one for dipping bread or dressing salad. I particularly like their Manzanilla EVOO. It's very similar to Spanish oils, very buttery, and nice when drizzled on things.

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      Junie D RE: vickib Apr 10, 2007 09:56 AM

      My favorite TJs olive oil - which I've heard is from Sonoma but don't quote me - is Trader Joe's Extra Virgin California Estate Olive Oil. Arebequina olives. In a tall, thin 16.9 ounce dark bottle with black label. This stuff is deep green and very flavorful. I use it for cooking AND drizzling.

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      maestra RE: alag77 Apr 8, 2007 07:35 PM

      Williams Sonoma stores have a tasting bar for all of their oils and vinegars -- literally dozens. You might call ahead and make sure the bar is up; sometimes they take it down to make room for seasonal merchandise (like Christmas).

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        lissy RE: maestra Apr 9, 2007 10:41 AM

        I have used the tasting bar at WS before and that's how I found the olive oil that I buy. I think it's called Lungarotti or something like that and costs about $36 for the bottle, but it lasts me a pretty long time since I don't use it for cooking, only for drizzling and dipping.

      2. Morton the Mousse RE: alag77 Apr 8, 2007 10:05 PM

        Round Pond in the Napa Valley makes exceptional EVOO. It is available at Say Cheese market in Los Angeles. Their new harvest Italian blend is incredible.

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          Frank_Santa_Monica RE: alag77 Apr 8, 2007 10:51 PM

          I use a lot of olive oil, so I happen to love discussing olive oil and trying new stuff.

          If you are going to cook with olive oil, then it doesn't really matter what you buy, because exposing good olive oil to heat will destroy the characteristics and the benefits of extra virgin, raw olive oil. On a lot of labels, you will find it says that olive oil can withstand low to medium heat (I personally don't believe that to be true). So, if that's what you're going for, then Trader Joe's will be fine.

          However, if you're going to use the oil as a topping for a salad, or for your burrata/caprese salad and you want your prize winning heirloom tomatoes to shine, then you want to break out the fancy olive oil. Manni is used by a lot of the top restaurants around. It has too much of a kick for me, so I don't use it at home (not to mention it's like $150). You can special order it from Le Sanctuaire in Santa Monica.

          The oil I use for everyday is Le Palombe or sometimes I buy Bariani. Le Palombe is Organic. I think it's like $30-$40, and it's really mild. Both you can find at The Co-op in Santa Monica.

          Perhaps the best place to buy olive oil is Bay Cities Deli in Santa Monica. The owner guy there has a wide range of high quality, well-priced stuff. Pretty much anything he has there will be good.

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            Morton the Mousse RE: Frank_Santa_Monica Apr 9, 2007 01:50 PM

            Gotta disagree with you on this one, Frank. It's true that certified EVOO is cold pressed, and cannot be heated during processing. It's also true that by heating EVOO you are changing some of its characteristics. But the flavor of the olive oil still comes through in cooking, so the quality of olive oil you cook with most definitely matters. I cook with EVOO, because it tends to be the highest quality olive oil, with the best flavor profile.

            It's similar to the myth that the quality of wine you cook with doesn't matter. The fact is, great chefs cook with great EVOO and great wine, because those flavors are part of what makes their cooking taste great.

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              FAL RE: Morton the Mousse Apr 9, 2007 02:40 PM

              ASARO BROTHERS EXTRA VIRGIN OLIVE OLIVE FROM SICILY. 25 FOR 3 L
              MARCA VERDE EVOO FROM CHIANTI $8.99 FOR 1 L
              COLUCHIO EVOO FROM BROOKLYN USA 14.00 FOR 1L
              HAS ANYONE TRIED UNFLITERED EVOO ? ( THE BOMB)

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                thunderbug84 RE: FAL Apr 10, 2007 08:06 AM

                I just bought a lot of olive oil from Sicily, from several different farms. Each one is for a different purpose. I agree with Morton in that you should use good oil to cook with. However, it will lose some of its flavor when its heated. For this reason, I cook with good quality stuff, but not the "best." I save the really good stuff for drizzling over everything. Olive oil is a lot like wine... different people like different flavor profiles. Its really all about tasting different oils and seeing what you like best (personally, I really like the unfiltered, super flavorful cloudy stuff). In LA I'm sure that there is some specialty store that does a good EVOO tasting. I'd look into that if I were you. Good luck!

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                  thunderbug84 RE: thunderbug84 Apr 10, 2007 08:09 AM

                  Try this: http://www.oliveoilsource.com/tasting...:

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                  RADADD RE: FAL Aug 22, 2007 01:47 PM

                  Did you go to Sicily and do this or did you find a way to shop online?
                  RADADD

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                    FAL RE: RADADD Aug 23, 2007 03:26 PM

                    I found it in my Middle Village where i live? Tey the Asaro Bros Brand, Fair Way carries a few good Evoo, and so does Colucchio in Brooklyn.

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                      LNG212 RE: FAL Oct 9, 2007 07:24 AM

                      Second the Fairway olive oil rec. Their regular evoo is fantastic for most everyday cooking uses. And it runs only about $9 for 1L. They also have a line of specialty olive oils (regional) and I particularly like the Sicilian Barbera which has a fantastic peppery quality to it. It's super for drizzling on mozzarella or on salads. These only run between $16-$20 for a litre. Also a great value for the quality. (And they have them all out for tasting, at least at the 74th St. location.)

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                  amyzan RE: Morton the Mousse Apr 10, 2007 08:18 AM

                  I use a less expensive EVOO for cooking where I will put it in the pan first. I also keep a bottle or two for salads or finishing dishes. This bottle is inevitably much more expensive, and often from Spain.

                  I read that many Italian brands are less relaible about the sources of the olives, that they will import oil and brand it theirs. This seems contrary to the whole "denominazione" idea, and I've not further researched it. Have you all found Italian oils that are demonstrably from Italian olives?

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                    thunderbug84 RE: amyzan Apr 10, 2007 12:05 PM

                    The Sicilian olive oil Titone has recieved a lot of awards. Titone is an organic, minimally-filtered oil made from three varieties of olive (50% nocellara, 25% biancolilla, 25% cerasuola) produced by a family-run farm near Marsala, Sicily. The best way to research an oil is to find and research the source, but to be honest, its prolly a crapshoot in a lot of cases. http://www.farawayfoods.com/titone.html

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                    flourgirl RE: Morton the Mousse Apr 10, 2007 09:01 AM

                    Edit: This was supposed to post as a reply to "Morton The Mouse." Don't know why it didn't. Sorry!

                    There was an interesting article in the NYT on this subject, "It Boils Down To This: Cheap Wine Works Fine", March 21, 2007, by JULIA MOSKIN (NYT).

                    What the author said, essentially, was that using a great wine (read "expensive") to cook with wasn't worth it, in her view, because the process of cooking mutes the very qualities that make a wine great in the first place and is a waste. (She also wasn't advocating using supermarket "cooking wine" either, mostly because of the high sodium content.)

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                      Morton the Mousse RE: flourgirl Apr 10, 2007 09:29 AM

                      Yeah, I read that article. Experience in my kitchen tells me that Moskin is wrong. I mean, sure, you shouldn't be cooking with a $200 bottle of wine, but using a $30 or $40 bottle will inevitably be better than using a $10 bottle (unless you've found an incredible $10 bottle).

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                        ccferg RE: Morton the Mousse Aug 22, 2007 02:28 PM

                        Yikes, I'd never use a $30 bottle of wine to cook with (but I would never use supermarket "cooking wine" either -- is that even real wine?). I'm willing to bet that you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a good $10 wine and $30 wine in a home-cooked recipe.

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                      Frank_Santa_Monica RE: Morton the Mousse Apr 10, 2007 01:26 PM

                      I think the topic called for an oil that wasn't going to "break the bank". But, hey, I guess more power to you if you cook with top shelf stuff. I really like the Trader Joe's Extra Virgin when I need something to glaze a low heated pan. It's like $25 a bottle, and my friends from NY buy it by the case when they are here in LA. Great value.

                      I also really love Montevertini ($62 a liter, but it's not organic), that I use for salads, topping, dipping. And, sometimes for pasta, I'll top it with Manni (which is $150 for a tiny bottle).

                      I guess it's like if you're ordering a strawberry margarita, are you going to use $500 tequila? I guess, yeah, you could taste the difference. Sure. But, to really experience the quality of the tequila, use fresh lemons and limes to make the mix. (actually $500 tequila is probably a sipping tequila).

                      On a side note, Extra Virgin organic olive oil is one of the most beneficial raw fats along with organic raw almonds, which is why I only use it in its purest form.

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                    pinkyswore RE: alag77 Apr 10, 2007 09:07 AM

                    Pasolivio!!

                    1. Hanachan RE: alag77 Apr 10, 2007 09:33 AM

                      Frankies in NYC (2 storefronts; one in LES [Frankies 17]and another in Brooklyn[Frankies 457]) has their own brand of EVOO and it's delicious. You can mail order them --- perfect to dip hard crusted bread or for when the recipe calls for good-quality EVOO.

                      http://frankiesspuntino.com/oliveoil/...

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                        rotie77 RE: alag77 Apr 10, 2007 04:27 PM

                        My favorites are the vintage Tuscan EVOO. The best are available at Rare Wine Co. in Sonoma (www.rarewineco.com), and they do ship. The 2006 will be available within the next month, and they will have 20 or more varieties to choose from, price range $15 to $25 or so for 500ml bottles. The oils are worth it, some of the best I've tasted. Usually order the Monte, Vetrice, Il Poggione, Melograno.

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                          Melanie Wong RE: rotie77 Aug 22, 2007 08:33 PM

                          Here's a tasting note on the 2005 Vertrice from last fall.
                          http://www.chowhound.com/topics/339090

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                          whatsfordinner RE: alag77 Aug 22, 2007 04:26 PM

                          Try Guidi Marcello Imports in Santa Monica - 1649 10th St (enter from Olympic). (310) 452-6277.
                          They have a fabulous olive oil that is reasonably priced. I just can't think of the name at the moment! The owner and his daughter are very helpful and will guide you.

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                            chrisinroch RE: alag77 Aug 22, 2007 04:29 PM

                            FWIW, I dont use good olive oil for my saute's. I have a big quart can of relatively cheap stuff that i use to fill my oil can, and a couple of really tasty olive oils for raw consumption. My advice on the latter is to taste a bunch of them and see what flavors you like.

                            1. fayehess RE: alag77 Aug 22, 2007 04:31 PM

                              I think that the best extra virgin olive oil ever, hands down, is La Macchia (I get it Fairway in NYC). fayefood.com

                              1. mariekeac RE: alag77 Aug 22, 2007 04:57 PM

                                Frantoia! Lot of flavor, have to admit, for regular cooking i use light tasting EVOO from Bertolli.
                                Oh and the wine part, the more expensive the wine doesn't mean it's automatic a better wine...

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                                  la2tokyo RE: mariekeac Mar 8, 2011 09:01 PM

                                  Frantoia FTW!

                                2. FredDinFLA RE: alag77 Oct 2, 2007 09:31 AM

                                  Have you tried ollo EVOO from Australia? They have two blends; Fresh & Fruity (my favorite) cold-pressed from early harvest green olives and Mild & Mellow, a late harvest oil. The Fresh & Fruity has a fresh grassy taste with a really nice peppery finish and has won a few awards. I find it in Publix for $9.99 (500mL), but it tastes like a $25-30 bottle. Very, very good Extra Virgin.

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                                    ceekskat RE: alag77 Oct 2, 2007 01:38 PM

                                    One of my favorite good olive oils is the Iliada brand. Should be available at specialty grocers in L.A. (not available at Safeway/Von's; not sure about Whole Foods). This is not a gourmet bottle; for that I just go to my local upscale grocer & ask for recommendations. As mentioned above, tastings are availabe at Williams Sonoma and I've also found some nice ones at Sunday farmer's markets. I pay about $15.95 or so for a 750ml bottle. I've also given nice olive oils as gifts instead of wine & my friends have loved it.

                                    http://www.thefind.com/query.php?quer...

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                                      Fleur RE: ceekskat Oct 3, 2007 01:57 AM

                                      I have fallen in love with the Sicilian Olive Oils at Oliviers&Co. They have a shop in Grand Central Market that offers tastings, and they sell online.

                                      The Sicilian EVOO that is pressed with Sicilian Lemons is just divine. Great as a drizzle on grilled Fish like Swordfish. Wonderful as a dipping oil for bread, and wonderful as a dressing for Arugala tossed with Toasted Pine Nuts and topped with Permesan Frico. No vinegar, just the oil, S&P.

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                                        kai27 RE: Fleur Oct 5, 2007 03:50 PM

                                        I would suggest Frantoia, Mcevoy Ranch or California olive oils that are fresh. It is important to see if there is an expiration date because olive oil does not have a long shelf life and if it comes over from Italy or Tunsia you never know how old they are. I hardly ever cook with olive oil as heat is not very good for the oil. I mainly use it for finishing and salad dressings.

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                                          fayehess RE: kai27 Oct 6, 2007 04:32 AM

                                          I cook nearly everything with extra virgin olive oil. When the oil is first processed, it has a very lively, often peppery characteristic, but this mellows in the first few months considerably, and then slowly for about 6 to 8 months, until, if it is a very good oil, meaning a very low acidity level, it will maintain the same, more delicate flavor for at least 2 and even 3 years. Low quality oil has an effect on the taste of the cooking when used at any point. Ideally what you want is to use your newer olive oil for finishing and an older, but still high quality olive oil for cooking. Extra virgin olive oil can withstand temperatures high enough to fry at without burning, and there is nothing like a delicate zucchini flour or even a doughnut stuffed with a sugared blood orange, fried in a beautiful oil.
                                          fayefood.com

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                                      Jay73 RE: alag77 Mar 8, 2011 05:41 PM

                                      try this one, IMO the best bang for the buck
                                      http://www.amazon.com/Baja-Precious-E...

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