388975 Fri Apr 06 06:30:30 -0700 2007 12 31 Home Cooking 0 2456462 I'm making a red velvet cake this weekend (using the Cakeman Raven recipe from foodtv.com). I've made it before, and it's great, and always a big hit. I'm making it for Mets Opening Day, though, and the thought occurred to me, why not an Orange Velvet Cake? Mix in some yellow food coloring with the red? What do you all think? Would it just end up brown and ugly, or might it work? Any thoughts on how much yellow to add, or just don't mess with it? Fri Apr 06 06:30:30 -0700 2007 12981 adam 1 2456521 I use to be a caterer,I think the idea is great because Red Velvet cake has coco and I am allergic to chocolate.I think I would use mostly Yellow with a very small bit of red to make it orange.If you do not delete the coco you might have a very ugly color,maybe not,but I think do not use the coco.Instead use orange flavor with maybe some lemon or orange zest,I think a little vanilla also would help flavor .Then you would have it flavored like orange and vanilla,yellow color , substatute the yellow for the red ,and add just enough red to make the orange color you want.Use the same iceing as the red velvet.I also will try it,sounds good to me.They say all good receipes start with a big mistake.Joan Dean Fri Apr 06 06:59:52 -0700 2007 2456462 89149 Joan Dean 1 2456531 It seems to me -- coming from a painter's perspective -- that you're more likely to end up with a brown interior as long as the cake contains cocoa powder. I would suggest replacing the cocoa powder with melted white chocolate and make necessary substitutions in liquids/fats to compensate. You'll get the chocolate flavor without marring the color palate, making it much easier to turn into a good orange color. Fri Apr 06 07:04:01 -0700 2007 2456462 50613 weezycom 1 2456542 From the land of the University of Tennessee where orange is a decorating statement, the substitution of orange coloring for red has been making orange velvet cakes for a long time. There's not that much cocoa in the mix and a lot of yellow comes from the egg yolks. Fri Apr 06 07:09:32 -0700 2007 2456462 79896 shallots 1 2456544 this is going to be a thoroughly unhelpful reply, but i just wanted to add that i'm a mets fan too and i think it's a great idea! (also, i know you can get white hot chocolate powder, so maybe use weezycom's suggestion of white chocolate and replace the cocoa with that. don't forget to compensate if there's sugar in the white chocolate). good luck and let's go mets!! Fri Apr 06 07:09:44 -0700 2007 2456462 12845 funkymonkey 1 2456603 Thanks everyone for the thoughts. For what it's worth, this is the recipe: http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/recipes/recipe/0,,FOOD_9936_23379,00.html?rsrc=search. I usually up the cocoa powder to 2 tbsp. I don't know if I'll up it that much this time, but I'm hestitant to cut it out entirely, unless it will really throw the whole cake off. As I understand it, some of the red color comes from the reaction of the cocoa with the buttermilk - so I'm not sure it would be brown for that reason; it would at least be reddish. I suppose using as much yellow, or almost as much, as the recipe calls for red, plus whatever red the cocoa+buttermilk produces, and a couple drops of red food coloring, should do the trick. Of course, I could be completely wrong, so if it seems like I am please chime in. Particularly, shallots, if you could offer some more detail having done this before, I'd appreciate it greatly. Thanks as usual! Fri Apr 06 07:32:27 -0700 2007 2456462 12981 adam 1 2466221 Just an update - this worked out great. I used only 1 tsp of cocoa powder, and then about 2 tbsp of food coloring (broken up as 5 tsp of yellow, 1 tsp of red), which i mixed together with the cocoa powder and added to the wet ingredients before then adding the dry. The cake was as good as ever, and I'm now wondering what color to turn it next . . . Anyway, thanks for the help!!! Tue Apr 10 06:56:27 -0700 2007 2456462 12981 adam 2 2466654 and the mets won, too! i'm sure the cake had something to do with it. well done! Tue Apr 10 08:56:17 -0700 2007 2466221 12845 funkymonkey 1 4108038 Nothing like replying over a year later but I just saw the question.....It's simple. I have been making Clemson Orange Velvet Cakes for years.....Had to. My son loves ?Red? velvet cake but red is the color of the state university and he is def. Clemson Orange. In your favorite Red Velver recipe just substitute 1 oz yellow color for the 1 oz red and add 1 teaspoon red. Have to have the tsp red for a great burnt orange color. Using just yellow turns out sickly.... Add the small amount of red and its great.... Enzor CLEMSON ORANGE VELVET CAKE: -. 3 c. plain flour 1 tsp. baking powder 1 tsp. soda 1/4 tsp. salt 2 sticks butter 2 c. sugar 1 Tbsp. cocoa 1 oz bottle yellow coloring 1 tsp. red coloring 1 tsp. vanilla 4 eggs 1 tsp. vinegar 1 c. buttermilk Grease 3, 9 inch layer cake pans. Sift flour with baking powder, soda and salt. Set aside. Cream butter, shortening and sugar. Add cocoa, colorings and vanilla. Beat well. Add eggs one at a time, and beat until light and fluffy. Add vinegar to buttermilk. Add flour mixture alternately with buttermilk mixture to creamed mixture. Mix well Bake at 350 degrees for 20 - 25 minutes. Makes 3 9" layers. Frost with Waldorf Astoria Icing, Cream Cheese Frosting or both if you want to risk a hear attack or excessive weight gain. Thu Oct 16 06:45:58 -0700 2008 2456462 233009 Enzor 2 4108236 This would be fun for Halloween, wouldn't it? Decorate it like a pumpkin? Thu Oct 16 07:59:45 -0700 2008 4108038 126235 NYCkaren 3 4108586 Great... Bake 2 in bundt pans. stick together and decorate or it may be better to bake Orange Velvet Pounds cakes for this. Enzor Thu Oct 16 10:20:31 -0700 2008 4108236 233009 Enzor 4 5067454 I love it! I'm hosting a Halloween party this year and plan to make a Red Velvet cake, but thought, "Hmmm... I wonder if anyone's ever made it orange?" Needless to say, I found this board ... I am definitely going to try to the 2 bundt pan idea! Tue Sep 29 12:47:05 -0700 2009 4108586 1112898 mmwillms 5 5067504 I always do a green velvet cake on St. Patrick's Day. Tue Sep 29 13:01:42 -0700 2009 5067454 12789 pcdarnell