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estufarian
Apr 12, 2007 08:33 AM
Just adding my 2c - although I think the Arron Barberian posts are excellent. He revealed his connection; gave factual information and it was believable.
My tastes don't usually run to steak, but if i want a blow-out, Barberians would be my first choice (and has been maybe once or twice a year). As an aside I sort-of know Arron - not because I'm a regular, but he and his family regularly attend the same diner as I do.
His winelist is (one of?) the best in the city. I am sometimes tempted to move up to a more expensive wine because of the 'relatively' better value, but most of the time am under $100 (occasionally slightly over when I spot a bargain - he's accused me of cherry-picking the best values on his winelist - especially for Oregon/Washington bottlings).
And its almost superfluous to point out that Barberians has been around a lot longer than many Chowhounds! Longevity occurs for a reason - and in this case it's top quality steaks and great wines. I wouldn't go anywhere else at those prices - although I do admit to visiting the Keg for a 'quickie' from time-to-time. -
Solie...let us know whether your question was answered to your satisfaction. Obviously, depending on your perspective you might think Barberians is fabulous or over priced.
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re: Solie
Hello All.
While searching the net today I came across this discussion. I manage Barberians for my family. As so I will not editorialize just state a few facts. Our list currently has over 450 wines under $100.00. Our wine list, as we speak, has 2,667 selections. We price our wines on a sliding scale. As an example a bottle that costs us $10.00 we sell for about $30.00, a bottle worth $1000.00 sells for about $1100.00.
I think this answers both the original question and the follow up.Sincerely
Arron B. Barberian-
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re: childofthestorm
My second point in my original post was really the one that I wanted to emphasize. Trotting out a long list of $85 wines (yes they are less than $100) sort of misses my point (my fault since I did mention $100).
Having 450 wines at $90 is not the same as having 450 wines at $50. They are both under $100 but my original intent was to focus on the lack of wines in the $40-$50 range.
If there are a 100 or so wines on the list in that range then I gladly stand corrected on my original post.
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re: Aardvark
Aardvark raises a very good point. So, I checked our list again for wines under $50 per bottle. We have 78 of them; not bad, given the fact that they all made it past our staff tasting panel.
I understand the consumer demand for fair pricing when it comes to wine. I to eat out regularly and am shocked by the prices some ask for table wine.Sincerely
Arron B. Barberian
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There is very little below $100 a bottle. This is my biggest peeve with Barberians. They have no quality reasonably priced wines (i.e. $40-$50/bottle).
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re: Aardvark
90pts
Apr 7, 2007 11:04 AM
I have a copy of Barberians Feb. 07 list. Mr. Barberian gave it to me, I didn't nick it. I counted over 320 wines at $100 or less. Aardvark, are there any lists in Toronto with more? As for your ($40-$50/bottle) test that is a tough test for any true "quality" wine. Good villages level Burgundy costs 35-40 per bottle. With a little help from one of Barberians knowledgeable waiters, their new young sommelier Christiana or Mr. Barberian himself I always find a "quality” wine in the $75-$85 range. Hope that helps, Solie.
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re: shampurj
90pts
Apr 7, 2007 01:25 PM
I think OPUS, BARBERIAN'S & VIA ALLEGRO all have lists over 2500 selections. Spectacularly grand lists if you will. The comment was about wines under $100.00. I've dined at all 3 in the last 8 months. Only Barberians had a large selection under $100.
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