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New Ice Cream Maker!

chef chicklet Apr 3, 2007 07:14 PM

First of all let me begin with this, I am so thrilled! I finally bought an ice cream maker. I am not sure about the brand, I haven't researched consumer reports but it is a Cuisinart.
Anyway,I have wanted one so badly for so long.
Do any of you have this machine, and even if you don't but you do make ice cream and or yogurt, what is your favorite and would you share your recipe with me?

I am anxiously awaiting the white peaches that my friendly neighbors give to me every year. That and the figs. Has anyone a good recipe for peach ice cream? or any other for that matter? Do you use it for any other chilly desserts or savory food items?

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    wawajb RE: chef chicklet Apr 4, 2007 06:56 AM

    I miss my ice cream maker! After much pleading a got one for christmas when I was about 13 (what can I say...I was a strange teenager) and it has long since bit the dust after falling of a high shelf and cracking the bowl, but in the years it was in operation we ate A LOT of ice cream.

    I'm pretty sure it was a cuisinart. I loved it, but I had no basis for comparison. It was a little loud and my mom always made me make ice cream on the front porch so she didn''t have to listen to it, but besides that I never had any complaints. The motor kept going strong no matter what I threw in there, and I made some chunky ice creams.

    The winners in our house were cheesecake ice cream and raspberry custard ice cream. (not cheesecake raspberry custard though...although that sounds good now) I love super rich creamy ice creams, so any fruit or vanilla ice cream I started out with a basic custard recipe (I used the one in the booklet that came with the ice cream maker, but I'm sure any basic custard would do) And then just added the various fruits, sometimes cooked down, sometimes left chunky, sometimes a mix of both. Usually at least sprinkled with sugar and left to sit to accumulate some juice either way. Always sugar to taste since fruit varies in sweetness.

    Cheesecake Ice Cream - very rich. Very fattening. Very simple (as all good ice creams are).

    1 c. heavy cream
    1 c. sour cream
    1 package cream cheese (8 oz?)
    3/4 c. sugar
    big splash of lemon juice
    splash of vanilla

    Mix everything together until smooth, starting with various dairys and then adding sugar, lemon and vanilla, chill and freeze "according to manufacturer's directions."

    I always thought about adding swirls of buttery graham cracker crumbs for the crust, but I could never make myself mess with it.

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      chef chicklet RE: wawajb Apr 4, 2007 08:23 AM

      Oh you are my hero!!! Cheesecake ice cream how decadent!
      Thank you I will definitely use you recipe, I have most all of the ingredients on your list, need the heavy cream though. And I take it there are products that read "whipping cream" or "cream" that I shoudl go for one that reads "heavy" since it will probably affect the outcome?
      I am with you on the super rich creamy ice creams. I also want to make gelattos so I know that I will get a lot of enjoyment and be become very popular with my new machine!

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        wawajb RE: chef chicklet Apr 4, 2007 08:51 AM

        I think it'd be fine with any variation on cream, although obviously a little lighter with light cream or half and half. So just 'cream' or whipping cream or heavy cream...whatever you can find should be fine really.

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        Adrienne RE: wawajb Apr 4, 2007 10:12 PM

        There's an ice cream place in Philly where they mix cream cheese, graham cracker crumbs, and a topping of your choice (strawberries or chocolate chips mostly) into vanilla ice cream and it is amazing. I think adding graham cracker to your ice cream might be even better.

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          wawajb RE: Adrienne Apr 5, 2007 10:20 AM

          Where in Philly? My mom lives there and I might require an ice cream excursion next time I visit...

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            Adrienne RE: wawajb Apr 5, 2007 03:34 PM

            ScoopDeVille. Used to be on 18th off Chesnut, I think it's the reverse now (on Chestnut, off 18th). They have a wide array of things they will slurry into an ice cream for you - and they have a pretty good selection of flavors including decent low fat vanilla and chocolate -- I recommend the low fat vanilla as the base for the cheesecake mix if you still want to go with that after you read all the choices :)

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          TerriL RE: wawajb Apr 5, 2007 10:12 AM

          Any idea how to best in incorporate fresh strawberries into this ice cream? TIA

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            fini RE: TerriL Apr 5, 2007 10:18 AM

            Chop some strawberries up in your food processor or by hand. Try to separate the excess liquid from the berries as it tends to create ice in the freezing process. I think I would fold them into your mixture as it's freezing.

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              TerriL RE: fini Apr 5, 2007 10:32 AM

              Thanks for your reply -- what do you think about adding sugar to the strawberries or heating them first? Tart strawberries might be flavorless, but undissolved sugar would be grainy. Maybe it would be better to just make a sauce to go on top.

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                fini RE: TerriL Apr 5, 2007 10:37 AM

                It really depends on how sweet the berries are and how sweet you really want your ice cream. I tend to lean on subtle sweetness, so I would go with sweet berries and only a tiny amount of sugar if any. It also depends on how much sugar is already in your ice cream/gelato base.

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                  QueenB RE: TerriL Apr 5, 2007 10:58 AM

                  Maybe sweeten the berries with a sugar syrup instead of regular white sugar?

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                    wawajb RE: TerriL Apr 5, 2007 11:05 AM

                    I agree with fini...and yes, tart strawberries might be flavorless, but you don't just want to throw sugar in there randomly. I think it depends a bit on what kind of texture you are looking for with the strawberries. Are you looking for a vanilla ice cream with strawberry chunks or a strawberry ice cream with strawberry chunks or a smooth strawberry flavored ice cream?
                    For the first I'd say follow fini's advice.
                    For strawberry ice cream with chunks I'd suggest taking about 2/3 of the strawberries, chopping small and cooking down with some sugar to taste. (make it so you'd want to eat it with a spoon, not super-sweet), mixing the (cooled) cooked strawberry mush into your base before freezing and then folding in the remaining chopped strawberries while freezing.
                    For straight stawberry ice cream I'd suggest throwing them in a food processor and then cooking down (with sugar to taste again) to a syrupy constancy and then adding to your unfrozen base. (after cooling of course)

                    Another thing that might help is if you feel you need a sugar adjustment at the last minute and have concerns about undisolvoed sugar, a drizzle of simple syrup might be the way to go.

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                      Adrienne RE: wawajb Apr 5, 2007 03:36 PM

                      I think this is great advice. Also, if you don't have simple syrup on hand and don't want to deal with making it and waiting for it to cool, I've found powdered sugar to be a great last-minute addition for ice cream -- it really doesn't alter the texture, and as long as you give it a few minutes in the machine it should spread out nicely.

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                        TerriL RE: Adrienne Apr 5, 2007 06:55 PM

                        Thanks for all the tips, and to wawajb for providing the original recipe. I made the cheesecake ice cream today and it was fantastic -- very smooth and creamy. I decided to make it plain the first time, so I could taste the flavors better, and decide how to proceed with strawberries. After trying it, I think I would actually make a compote to put on top, so that the strawberry flavor is more intense.

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                          wawajb RE: TerriL Apr 6, 2007 05:23 AM

                          I'm glad you enjoyed it! I'm actually pretty new here on chowhound and I think this is the first time that I've suggested a recipe and somebody has used it! I'm absurdly giddy...I love this place. :)

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                            TerriL RE: wawajb Apr 7, 2007 04:40 PM

                            Cool! I also wanted to report that this ice cream keeps extremely well -- I assume because it is nothing but fat. I stored in it a flattish tupperware and pressed plastic wrap tightly on top, sort of like storing gelato.

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                  jfood RE: TerriL Apr 5, 2007 10:57 AM

                  Hope someone can help.

                  Made Cherries Garcia last year and the cheeries were as hard as a tootsie pop. how do you keep these guys from turning to rocks in the freezer?

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                    renov8r RE: jfood Apr 7, 2007 05:49 AM

                    I have had limited success with three basic methods, all designed around making the fruit more "freeze proof".

                    Easiest (but least satisfying) is the simply leave the cherries out in colander with a layer of superfine sugar to help deiscate them. Loss of juice can be quite a lot for ripe cherries.

                    A little more effective is to deliberately choose some slightly less ripe cherries and then steep then in a cooled simple syrup. If the syrup is too hot the cherries cook and the whole texture of fresh fruit is lost.

                    Another option is kirsch. You don't want to marinate the cherries in the liquor (unless that is what you want, kirsch ice cream) but a light 'dressing' is somewhat effective in keeping the fruit chewy.

                    I suspect that the Ben & Jerrys guys have some other secrets -- probably directly related to the temp of the ice cream making machines/freezing point of the cream/milk mix.

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                      chef chicklet RE: renov8r Apr 7, 2007 10:40 AM

                      I have a jar of cherries from Trader Joes in my pantry. Dark, plump Bing Cherries that I'm wondering if I drain them well, could be used somehow with dark chocolate chunks. Make the ice cream pink with the juice? And then add the cherries and chocolate at the end. Kirsch might be addional taste to add as you suggest. I like that idea. Since I probably will have to some testings before I get the amounts that I want. Do you swap the liquids in the recipes when adding flavors that are in liquid form?

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                      maria lorraine RE: jfood Apr 8, 2007 12:50 AM

                      Had the same thing happen with my Cherries Garcia. Simmer the halved cherries with a small amount of sugar and touch of water. The sugar and heat leaches out some of the juice inside the cherries. Cook till the liquid concentrates (the water component of the juice will evaporate -- that's the culprit) and the syrup is re-absorbed into the cherries. Use a low heat and watchful eyes.

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                  emilief RE: chef chicklet Apr 4, 2007 08:51 AM

                  The recipe book that comes with the Cuisinart Ice Cream maker has some very good recipes. I use those recipes. I also have a wonderful but slightly complicated recipe for corn ice cream that I make when corn is in season- let me know if you want it and I will post it (have to look for it).

                  1. QueenB RE: chef chicklet Apr 4, 2007 10:47 AM

                    I have a cuisinart ice cream maker. I love it! There are a few things to know though.

                    First, make sure you've frozen your insert for at least 48 hours for it to work most effectively. The longer the better. As a matter of fact, I keep both inserts at all times in my chest freezer. If you've got room, it's the thing to do.

                    Secondly, the machine is very loud. I'd recommend not using it when you expect to sit around in the same room and talk to people.

                    With that said, I've made plain old vanilla ice cream in it. I've also made a lemon-champagne granita. Last weekend I made a canteloupe sorbet with a hint of vanilla that came out very yummy.

                    I'm looking forward to peach season as well, because I'm making peach ice cream. I'll be doing strawberry too when my berries ripen. I was thinking of maybe throwing a touch of balsamic in the strawberry, or making a thick reduction and doing a balsamic swirl.
                    I also want to do more herbal ice creams/sorbets. Basil and watermelon...stuff like that.

                    Enjoy it! It's a wonderful addition to your kitchen!

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                      jfood RE: QueenB Apr 4, 2007 01:10 PM

                      QB,

                      Jfood needs a favor. I am staring at a large cantaloupe and a large honeydew, with one of each already cut in the fridge. Mrs Jfood and little jfood leaving tomorrow night for some girlie R&R so I need something to make with these two fruits. I thought about cantaloupe ice cream (I had some in NJ in 1970 and remember how much I liked it).

                      My eyes lit up with Cantaloupe sorbet. Any chance for a primer on how you made it. TIA

                      And I gotta remember to put my insert in the freezer when I get home. :-)))

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                        QueenB RE: jfood Apr 4, 2007 01:31 PM

                        Sure thing jfood.
                        First, make up a simple syrup (I used 1 c white sugar to 1 c water). Stir until combined, then bring to a boil. Let it boil until the syrup is clear (I believe it took about 3-4 minutes). Let it cool down a bit until it's at room temp. You can keep the leftover syrup in the fridge forever.

                        Then, take your food processor, or a blender, and whirl half a cantaloupe (or honeydew) until it's pureed. Add the juice of half a lime, and two tablespoons of vanilla vodka (you can leave this part out). Then put in 1/2 cup of your simple syrup, whirl to combine and taste. If it isn't sweet enough for you (this will totally depend on the sweetness of your melon) add more syrup until you get the taste you like. (Then, I added a cup of milk to make it more creamy, but you can leave this out)

                        Pour into your ice cream maker and freeze according to your instructions. This fills up my 1 1/2 qt Cuisinart.

                        It's a great way to show off the sweetness of the melon. You could also make a mint-infused syrup that would go really well. Or basil...

                        Enjoy your time alone!

                        PS - you can do this with any soft fruit. If you use raspberries/blackberries, etc, make sure you strain the puree before freezing, to get the seeds out.

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                          jfood RE: QueenB Apr 4, 2007 01:47 PM

                          Thanks QB. Will report back if I get to it during the Hazan-a-thon.

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                            jfood RE: jfood Apr 6, 2007 06:59 PM

                            help again please

                            took out of freezer and it is not smooth as expected but very hard. any idea what i might have done wrong or do i need to leave out for a few minutes before scooping?

                            tia

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                              mattm RE: jfood Apr 6, 2007 07:33 PM

                              According to Shirley Corriher in Cookwise, the most important factor in getting a scoopable ice or ice cream is sugar concentration. The sugar is supposed to depress the freezing point enough to prevent getting a giant popsicle. Pectin, honey, or alcohol are supossed to help too.

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                                QueenB RE: jfood Apr 7, 2007 08:54 AM

                                First, did you add any alcohol? If not, that's ok, but it helps keep the sorbet smooth and soft.

                                I'd leave it out a bit and see what happens. They do say that sorbet is best when it's eaten within the first day. After that, the texture does change.

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                                  QueenB RE: jfood Apr 7, 2007 12:36 PM

                                  jfood, one more thing...how did you actually make your sorbet? (how much sugar syrup, alcohol...did you use milk?)

                                  The reason I ask is because I took mine out of the freezer just now (one week after I made it) and it has the exact texture of "wooder ice" AKA water ice. Soft and crumbly, not hard at all.

                                  So, trying to figure out what happened with yours.

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                                    jfood RE: QueenB Apr 7, 2007 03:49 PM

                                    Made both a cantaloupe and a strawberry yesterday.

                                    Each was fruit in the processor until smooth. Into a bowl and added about 1/2 C of sugar syrup and maybe a 1/3 C of whole milk. Into Cuisinart IC maker. Freezer reads about -1 to -5 degrees and both are as you described, ice water. Instead of taking a chance tonight went to the grocer and picked up some B&J ice cream. Will try to thaw a little tomorrow when the other Jfoods come back but tonight I suffer through Cherries Garcia and Double fudge.

                                    I am at a loss as well as you.

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                                      QueenB RE: jfood Apr 7, 2007 07:05 PM

                                      Geez jfood, I have no idea, but I feel really bad, considering it was my recipe. It was definitely creamy on the first day, but as Bittman says, maybe the texture has been lost, making it more of a water ice...which still tastes darn good. Sorry about that.
                                      I hope you manage to suffer through your Ben & Jerry's. ;-)

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                                        jfood RE: QueenB Apr 7, 2007 07:42 PM

                                        No biggie, and i learned something. All the other dishes went great, some pork dumplings, a cheeseburger, and Hazan's canneloni. Mrs Jfood and I will eat some tomorrow noght anyway.

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                                    Adrienne RE: jfood Apr 7, 2007 03:22 PM

                                    How frozen was it when you first put it IN the freezer? It should be at a texture where you could eat it before putting it in the freezer for the best results.

                                    When I first got my machine I had what you're describing happen a few times -- especially with sorbet -- and I ultimately realized that if I let it freeze & spin for twice as long as the machine instructions said, it improved the texture later on quite a bit. For my particular machine, that also means freezing the bucket for at least twice as long as the instructions said (I honestly usually leave it in the freezer for about 3 days before using it) in order to keep it cold enough to go for an hour without starting to melt.

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                                      jfood RE: Adrienne Apr 7, 2007 03:50 PM

                                      A

                                      I did not process anywhere close to an hour, maybe 20 minutes. Ther's a theory i need to think about.

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                                        QueenB RE: jfood Apr 10, 2007 12:51 PM

                                        Well jfood, did you and Mrs jfood eat it?

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                                          jfood RE: QueenB Apr 10, 2007 01:03 PM

                                          QB

                                          Last night I took the strawberry out of the freezer and left it on the counter for ten minutes. It had a lousy texture but the tqaste was really good. So i scraped some into a bowl and ate some of it. I told Mrs jfood I was going to throw it away. I also think someone had the right idea of trying to "overfreeze" it in the ice cream maker and i am givingthat a shot with some honeydew tomorrow.

                                          To satisfy my sweet tooth I was luck enough to lister to some Chowers about some great oranges from Texas, which arrived over the weekend. I ate two of these wahile Mrs jfood crashed after a long day.

                                          Tonight is Idol so I'll defrost some of the cantaloupe and try a bowl of this one.

                                          I hope the overfreeze works.

                                          Did you eat or toss?

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                                            QueenB RE: jfood Apr 10, 2007 01:50 PM

                                            Ate. I like the "Italian Water Ice" texture. Reminds me of home. I have a feeling that mine turned out differently texture-wise than yours did though. Mine never froze solid, it stayed soft.

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                                              jfood RE: QueenB Apr 13, 2007 09:28 AM

                                              Ode to Sorbet.

                                              I tried to defrost, add some sugar syrup to bring down freeze point and placed back into Cuisinart. I froze until it did not turn any more. I scooped it out and tried. The texture right out of the machine was a perfect 10, so my spirits lifted. :-00

                                              Then back into the freezer. 24-hour later I have Rita's Water Ice again. :-((

                                              My solution.

                                              Serve only the night it is made. Get all of the ingredients really cold. Take machine and place in Mrs Jfood's office because it is too loud for the kitchen. When I plate the entrees, place the mixture in the machine and turn it on and close the door.

                                              By the time dessert is served, the sorbet should be ready.

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                                  jfood RE: QueenB Apr 6, 2007 08:07 AM

                                  Just came out of the cuisinart. Fantastic. TY so much.

                                  Cannister back into the freezer for strawberry sorebt later today.

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                                    QueenB RE: jfood Apr 6, 2007 08:16 AM

                                    You're welcome! Really glad you like it.

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                              gourmanda RE: chef chicklet Apr 4, 2007 12:45 PM

                              Lucky, lucky you! I too received one only recently (a Cuisinart). It is loud as others have mentioned...so either make it before company comes or have it churn out of earshot. So far I have only made the basic vanilla and chocolate listed in the book. THe vanilla ice cream (w/ about a tablespoon of extract) is, imo, best fresh...all soft-serve and vanilla-y. The chocolate, while very good and of course lacking those icky gums in store bought ice cream, didn't seem quite as extraordinary but yummy none the less. Can't wait to experiment with sorbets if it ever warms up for good around here!

                              Enjoy!

                              1. marthadumptruck RE: chef chicklet Apr 4, 2007 01:00 PM

                                I have a Cuisinart ice cream maker as well. For the most part, I am happy with the machine and the ensuing product.

                                I really like a smooth, creamy texture to my ice cream. However, I have noticed the ice cream I make in the Cuisinart tends to crystallize pretty quickly. Does anyone have any tips to minimize the crystallization?

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                                  wawajb RE: marthadumptruck Apr 4, 2007 01:24 PM

                                  More fat! Usually the fattier the ice cream mix the easier it is to get it nice and creamy. So nothing less than whole milk, and preferablly a good portion of cream. Also custard bases usually come out creamier than just straight uncooked milk bases.

                                  Without resorting to the kinds of gums and stableizers that commercial ice cream makers use, I have no idea how to make a low-fat creamy ice cream. Although that doesn't mean there isn't a way to do it. :)

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                                    QueenB RE: wawajb Apr 4, 2007 01:33 PM

                                    Yes, I agree with wawajb. Custard based ice creams tend to not crystallize and come out much creamier than lower-fat ice creams.

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                                      Adrienne RE: wawajb Apr 4, 2007 10:14 PM

                                      Does plain gelatin count as "resorting"? My frozen yogurt recipe has a pack of gelatin in it and I'm pretty sure that's the only reason it comes together.

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                                        ohm86 RE: wawajb Apr 4, 2007 11:21 PM

                                        My trick is nonfat powdered milk and/or low-fat evaporated milk (NOT sweetened condensed). I usually start with whole or 2% milk and then add either or both of the above until it looks thick enough (I'm sorry this is so subjective, but I realized that I have absolutely no idea what quantities I use: I just try to get it as "thick" as the full-fat version) I also use fruit sugars (reduced no sugar added fruit juices, pureed fruit, or cane juice) as they have a lower glycemic value than straight glucose.

                                        My husband just showed me a quick recipe I had jotted down for him one time for Banana-Maple ice cream:
                                        1 c whole milk
                                        2 egg yolks
                                        -- combine over medium heat, whisking, until slightly thickened. Remove from heat and cool.
                                        Add: 1/4 c nonfat dry milk, splash of vanilla extract, 2 overripe bananas (mashed), 1/4-1/3 cup maple syrup (to taste).
                                        Mix well and throw into your ice cream maker!

                                        TIPS:
                                        If it's too thick, add a bit more whole milk.
                                        Chopped pecans or walnuts add nice taste and texture

                                        The mashed banana helps thicken the mixture, and I usually make this when I haven't been diligent about getting through that bunch of bananas and I end up with nearly black ones ... =)

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                                      ExercisetoEat RE: chef chicklet Apr 4, 2007 01:22 PM

                                      I have a red Cuisinart and LOVE it! We happily made ice cream all summer, and the noise didn't bother me because it meant that soon we'd have ice cream (kind of a Pavlovian effect I guess). With mine, I buy the largest freezer Ziplocs I can find (2 gallon) and always keep the bowl in a Ziploc in the freezer, so it's ready to be used whenever you want. I've had great success making recipes out of the William Sonoma Ice Cream cookbook, and would highly recommend purchasing it (plus all the beautiful photos will have you drooling). A plastic pastry scraper cleans out the inside of the bowl like a dream, and is really helpful to scrape out the bits attached to the bowl that are always harder than the contents in the middle.

                                      So far the best I've made was a black raspberry sorbet. I took the blackberry sorbet recipe from the William Sonoma book and substituted fresh black raspberries instead. It was the best sorbet or ice cream I've ever tasted. Other favorites are the Meyer Lemon sorbet, the Crème Fraiche with Candied Lemon Peel, and a cream cheese based recipe from Gourmet magazine last summer that you serve over watermelon slices with chocolate shavings. Yum!

                                      If you want to add liquor (like for a Rum Raisin ice cream) wait until the last few minutes, and be aware that it will lower the freezing point, making the ice cream a bit softer.

                                      Enjoy!

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                                        chef chicklet RE: ExercisetoEat Apr 4, 2007 08:58 PM

                                        Corn, Cantelope, Raspberry Peach, Black Raspberry, and all the rest, I don't know what to make first. I am so looking forward, I know I have seen many recipes in my magazines, or books and wanted to make it and now I can.

                                        Thanks for the tips, they will surely save me time, and also what to expect with the noise level, I might of thought it was broken. So guess all I need now is to zero in on the recipe!
                                        Thank you!

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                                        maestra RE: chef chicklet Apr 4, 2007 09:03 PM

                                        I love lemongrass, so lemongrass-flavored ice cream was the first thing I made with my machine. It was excellent, though better when accompanied by something a little bit tart (like fresh raspberries).
                                        ExercisetoEat:
                                        Is the Williams Sonoma book worth the purchase price? The recipes you've mentioned sounds fantastic -- are the others just as good?

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                                          mattm RE: maestra Apr 4, 2007 09:40 PM

                                          The following thread covers the Williams Sonoma book, its tendency to use cream, and the resulting textures:
                                          http://www.chowhound.com/topics/336895

                                          I don't have the book myself, so I have no firsthand info.

                                          My ice cream books are the Ben & Jerry's one, and The Ultimate Ice Cream book. Of the two I recommend the second.

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                                            fini RE: mattm Apr 5, 2007 10:00 AM

                                            The same author of The Ultimate Ice Cream Book also has another title called "The Ultimate Frozen Dessert Book" and it actually has a ton of decent gelato recipes as well as some other delicacies. The other book I have to recommend is "Gelato!: Italian Ice Cream, Sorbetti & Granite" by Pamela Sheldon Johns. It's great book on well, gelato.

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                                            ExercisetoEat RE: maestra Apr 5, 2007 08:04 AM

                                            To me the Williams Sonoma book has been worth the purchase price. I have made probably six different ice creams out of it so far, the ones I mentioned earlier along with the chocolate hazelnut gelato, peppermint, and vanilla. I read the thread posted by mattm, and have not had any of the problems mentioned in the thread. However, the first time I tried making ice cream I made the vanilla recipe and way overcooked the custard. It had a strong eggy taste and kind of a curdled texture. After that I was very careful whenever cooking the custard to not let it boil or cook it too long, and have made the vanilla with great results. The other thing that I do is set a timer for about 22 minutes per the Cuisnart machine manual, and I watch the ice cream carefully after the timer goes off to make sure that it isn't over churned (plus who can wait much longer to eat it?). Doing that, I haven't experienced any of the "chalky" issues that were mentioned. Perhaps the poster had a preference for a different texture, I'm not sure. But I have given the Cusinart machine along with the William Sonoma book to two different couples as Christmas gifts so far, and they've had success with both as well.

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                                            flogo RE: chef chicklet Apr 4, 2007 11:24 PM

                                            i have a krups ice maker and it's not very loud at all. i haven't had the chance to make any ice cream yet. however, i tried the orange sherbert recipe from williams sonoma and it didn't turn out right. it was more like frozen orange juice. does anyone have any good gelato recipes?? that'd be great. thanks!

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                                              Adrienne RE: flogo Apr 5, 2007 07:12 AM

                                              My base recipe for gelato:
                                              Gelato

                                              proportions:
                                              2 ½ cups milk
                                              4 egg yolks
                                              ¾ cup sugar

                                              Cook the milk with half the sugar.
                                              Season the hot milk (insert your favorite extract or seasoning here - i.e., vanilla to taste)
                                              Meanwhile, beat the eggs and the other half of the sugar (until pale)
                                              Add in warm milk to eggs/sugar and beat
                                              Cook again, not quite a boil.
                                              Cool, chill, then put through the machine.
                                              A lot of the time I just make vanilla to begin with and then throw in other ingredients, pre-cooked if necessary and cold, into the machine for the last 5 minutes.

                                              My chocolate gelato recipe is a little different -- and can be adapted to other flavors that come in chip form :)
                                              2 ounces fine-quality bittersweet chocolate (not unsweetened)
                                              2 1/4 cups whole milk
                                              1/3 cup heavy cream
                                              3/4 cup minus 2 tablespoons superfine granulated sugar
                                              1 cup unsweetened cocoa powder
                                              4 large egg yolks
                                              In a 2-quart heavy saucepan bring milk, cream, and about half of sugar just to a simmer, stirring until sugar is dissolved. Remove pan from heat and add cocoa powder and chocolate, whisking until chocolate is melted and mixture is smooth.
                                              In a bowl with an electric mixer beat yolks and remaining sugar until thick and pale. Add hot chocolate mixture in a slow stream, whisking, and pour into saucepan. Cook custard over moderately low heat, stirring constantly, until 170 (no boiling!) Pour custard through a sieve into a metal bowl set in ice and cold water and cool. Chill custard, covered, until cold. Put through machine.

                                            2. othervoice RE: chef chicklet Apr 5, 2007 04:03 AM

                                              Dear Chef,

                                              The last icecream I would buy in the world would be peach. But homemade it's incredible. All we did was make a basic vanilla custard and throw in fresh, peeled peaches.

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                                                chef chicklet RE: othervoice Apr 5, 2007 09:47 AM

                                                othervoice, I am so glad you mentioned this, I am a little hesitant on how to get the peaches in there, believe me ALL of your tips and experiene with making gelatos, ice cream custard based or not are really appreciated, and I am bookmarking this thread.
                                                I plan on putting this little machine to work, and I admit I'm a little aprehensive!
                                                Watch for a picture, I want to report back to all of you that have been so kind to help me with my first ice cream making project!

                                              2. The Dairy Queen RE: chef chicklet Apr 6, 2007 05:51 AM

                                                As usual, most of these recipes sound fantastic. I particularly appreciate the tips on how to "lighten up" some of the recipes. I know it's not a very chowhoundish choice, but I bought one of those "soccer-ball" type ice cream makers, that I thought would be fun to use for parties, etc.--just give the kids the ball and tell them to go have a ball with it while making ice cream.

                                                Has anyone had any experience with this kind of ice cream maker, including any of the recipes mentioned above? I was just curious if the tricks and techniques and successes and failures are the same with the ball as with a more conventional ice cream maker.

                                                ~TDQ

                                                1. anitaw32 RE: chef chicklet Apr 6, 2007 09:00 AM

                                                  Being from the South, homemade Ice Cream on a hot summer afternoon is so refreshing. The first recipe belongs to my maw-maw, I have enjoyed this savory treat many times while growing up. The second recipie is one I found and have used several times it is quite good.

                                                  Peach Ice Cream
                                                  5 cups ripe peaches, peeled and chopped
                                                  6 eggs, lightly beaten, at room temperature
                                                  2-1/2 cups sugar
                                                  2 tablespoons all-purpose flour
                                                  1 tablespoon vanilla extract
                                                  dash of salt
                                                  4 cups whole milk
                                                  3 cups heavy cream (whipping cream)

                                                  In a blender, purée 3 cups of the peaches. Mash the remaining 2 cups of chopped peaches with a potato masher. Set aside. In a large bowl, whisk together eggs, sugar, flour, vanilla and salt until well blended. Set aside.

                                                  In a large, heavy saucepan over low heat, heat the milk and cream, just until it begins to steam. Pour a little of the heated mixture into the egg and sugar mixture, and stir. Then pour the bowl of egg/sugar/milk mixture back into the heavy saucepan. Continue to cook over low heat, stirring constantly, until mixture is thick and smooth. Remove from heat, and refrigerate the mixture for several hours or until well chilled.

                                                  Add the peaches to the chilled mixture, stir well, and pour into a 5-quart ice cream freezer. Freeze mixture. Allow ice cream to ripen for at least an hour for best taste.

                                                  Banana Ice Cream
                                                  3 cups (1 1/2 pints) half-and-half
                                                  1 (14-ounce) can Sweetened Condensed Milk (NOT evaporated milk)
                                                  1 cup pureed or mashed bananas
                                                  1 tablespoon pure vanilla extract

                                                  In ice cream freezer container, combine all ingredients; mix well and Freeze mixture.

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                                                    chef chicklet RE: anitaw32 Apr 6, 2007 02:26 PM

                                                    Thank you!! One of my favorites is banana ice cream, I thought I might have to use the essence or a flavored liqour? Yum!

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                                                      jfood RE: chef chicklet Apr 6, 2007 02:58 PM

                                                      I love Banana ice cream and buy an extra couple to sit on the counter until they start turning brown. If you use the banana as it starts turning, they are much sweeter and the ice cream is fantastic

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                                                        chef chicklet RE: jfood Apr 7, 2007 10:24 AM

                                                        Thanks Jfood, I always have bananas around too, and will make that one as well. I have the bowl in the freezer, getting nice and cold to make an ice cream for our Easter dinner. I saw a banana flavoring at the grocery store last night. Have you ever tried that?

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                                                          jfood RE: chef chicklet Apr 7, 2007 10:56 AM

                                                          I bought it, brought it home, got as far as opening the jar, but i could not put it in the ice cream. Grabbed some oreos instead. Banana was next week.

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                                                            chef chicklet RE: jfood Apr 8, 2007 09:15 PM

                                                            jfood, should i mash the bananas?

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                                                              jfood RE: chef chicklet Apr 9, 2007 06:41 AM

                                                              Yes. If you don't they will be little chunks of frozen bananas in the ice cream unless you know how to solve that quandry.

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                                                                chef chicklet RE: jfood Apr 18, 2007 11:19 AM

                                                                which is the delima with the strawberries that I left too large. But actually we really enjoyed the frozen small bits great crunch/textrue and since they were not "in season" quite yet a little tart, but good!!!

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                                                                fini RE: chef chicklet Apr 9, 2007 08:41 AM

                                                                Or just puree them in your food processor or blender.

                                                      2. re: anitaw32
                                                        chef chicklet RE: anitaw32 Apr 18, 2007 11:28 AM

                                                        anitaw, I am thinking on making the peach ice cream soon. My ice cream maker is for 2 Qts, I guess I'll just do the math with the ingredient list that you gave. But for clarification, just mash the remaining cut up peaches, then cook them?

                                                      3. amyzan RE: chef chicklet Apr 6, 2007 03:16 PM

                                                        I have a Cuisinart, and one of the nicer things about it is the opening over the churning ice cream. It's easy to drizzle in melted dark chocolate to make irregular chunks like Graeter's used to do before they switched from hand paddled pots to the automated machines. So yummy...

                                                        I found a recipe for fig ice cream from Deborah Madison on the web, I'm sorry I didn't bookmark it. I think it was taken from her cookbook focusing on farmer's markets, I can't recall the title at present. Probably googling would pull it up.

                                                        As for the lower fat ice creams and frozen yogurt, recipes with gelatin are the way to go, IMO. They give you the mouthfeel of ice cream, even if they do freeze rock hard rather quickly. They will soften up given 10 minutes at room temperature. We get the smaller 1 1/2 qt. recipes eaten within a few days, and don't find crystallization a problem within that time frame.

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                                                          chef chicklet RE: amyzan Apr 7, 2007 10:21 AM

                                                          I love fig and rasberry jam. I make it whenever my neighbors gift me with beautiful figs. I bake fig cookies, and just so many other things with it. I'll probably make a simple beautiful vanilla custard, cook the fig like I'm making jam and then stream it through the ice cream when almost ready. So it doesn't mix in just leaves swirl of fig running through the vanilla. I can't wait!

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                                                            amyzan RE: chef chicklet Apr 7, 2007 10:54 AM

                                                            I will leave swirls if you use good technique. You have to work quickly once the ice cream is thoroughly churned and frozen. Have the swirl product at a good pourable consistency and be steady and quick, then turn off the machine and stir a bit by hand to distribute. Melted chocolate is a little easier than jam as it just hardens into irregular chunks, but I've made strawberry swirl cheesecake ice cream using a thick sweetened berry puree. It may take a couple tries to get what you want.

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                                                              chef chicklet RE: amyzan Apr 7, 2007 11:08 AM

                                                              Thanks amyzan! Good tips! Getting so much useful information!

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                                                          tranewreck RE: chef chicklet Apr 6, 2007 03:42 PM

                                                          I am also the new owner of an ice cream maker (freezer bowl type) and am looking for a recipe for oreo cookie ice cream. thanks

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                                                            hammerhead RE: chef chicklet Apr 6, 2007 04:29 PM

                                                            I'm thinking about buying an IC maker myself as I have access to some farm fresh milk, right out of the cow. Anybody have a good resource for IC recipes?
                                                            TIA.

                                                            1. NYchowcook RE: chef chicklet Apr 8, 2007 05:37 AM

                                                              I'm wondering what model Cuisinart you folks are raving about . . . it has me thinking: now that there are the compressor types available, now's my time to launch into homemade ice cream, sorbets.
                                                              I was looking at the Cuisinart ICE-20 1-1/2-Quart Automatic Ice Cream, Frozen Yogurt, and Sorbet Maker. Is this what you have? A higher end model?
                                                              thanks.

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                                                                QueenB RE: NYchowcook Apr 8, 2007 07:35 AM

                                                                That's the one I've got. It's exactly what I need for the amount of ice cream I make.

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                                                                  chef chicklet RE: QueenB Apr 8, 2007 03:13 PM

                                                                  My recent purchase at Costco for 49.99, model "Pure Indulgence 2QT CIM 60 PC...Stainless steel unit. Today is my beta test, making strawberry ice cream, with fresh strawberries also through out. I hope it works!!!

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                                                                    chef chicklet RE: chef chicklet Apr 8, 2007 09:09 PM

                                                                    A report to you all on the strawberry ice cream. The ice cream was a light pink color, that was just gorgeous. With chunks of fresh "frozen" berries. The small pieces were good, I should of cut them up into all small pieces. It was so darn pretty I just couldn't resist. So we ate around the frozen berries. It would make a deicious smoothy or ice cream drink or one with alchohol. I will make it again, and from what I read on the internet today, frozen berries taste better than fresh because the freezing process breaks the cell walls down, and so you actually get more berry and flavor. Freeze fresh one individually or just use frozen. I made a vanilla ice cream recipe not with eggs, but cream and milk, added vanilla and sugar to both the liquid, and the berries. Added the juice, mashed half the berries, left the other half large chunks and they went in at the beginning, and the rest, the last 5 minutes. I don't have tupperware, It disappears. I had to use a large rubbermaild container that was about 6 inches deep, but wide. I laid wrap, against the top of the ice cream and sealed the lid. Perfect consistency. Not too soft, not too hard, except the larger berries, like rocks.Your suggestions made this an easier project for me!
                                                                    So adding fresh fruit requires more testing....sorry the picture blurred was hurrying for baby...

                                                                     
                                                              2. QueenB RE: chef chicklet Apr 13, 2007 12:25 PM

                                                                This weekend, I'm attempting a bittersweet chocolate ice cream and a ginger ice cream with candied ginger pieces. I was going to attempt to do a S'mores ice cream by adding marshmallow swirl and graham cracker pieces to the chocolate, but that got promptly shot down my Mr. B. (as my grandfather would say, "He needs his tongue scraped.")
                                                                We'll see how it goes.

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                                                                  BobMack RE: chef chicklet Apr 18, 2007 10:37 PM

                                                                  With all the fresh strawberries around I made two batches, one of plain strawberry ice cream and a second of strawberry with balsamic vinegar. Both were excellent but the Balsamic vinegar was voted the better of two by my wife and I.

                                                                  I cook the strawberrys (2 cups quartered) with 6 TBS sugar until it turns to a jam like state. Another option to keep it from getting icy is to use milk powder. No eggs in my recipe either.

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                                                                    jfood RE: BobMack Apr 19, 2007 03:59 AM

                                                                    BM

                                                                    Strawberries are everywhere and would love to make some ice cream with them.

                                                                    Could you please post the recipe w the Balsamic?

                                                                    TIA

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                                                                      BobMack RE: jfood Apr 19, 2007 07:52 AM

                                                                      2 Cups Quartered Strawberries
                                                                      1/4 Cup Sugar plus 6 Tbs
                                                                      2 Cups Heavy Cream
                                                                      1 Cup Milk
                                                                      1 Tbs Balsamic

                                                                      1. Mix Cream, Milk and 1/4 Cup sugar together and heat over medium until almost simmering. Cool in ice bath until room temperature then refridgerate for a few hours or overnight.

                                                                      2. Mix strawberries and 6 Tbs sugar in a pot and heat over medium until the strawberries turn into a jam like consistency. Stir frequently. About 20-25 minutes.

                                                                      3. Mix 1Tbs of Balsamic vinegar with the strawberriy mixture and let cool to room temperature. Then place in the fridge for about an hour.

                                                                      4. Mix the strawberry mixture with the cream mixture and freeze in your ice cream machine.

                                                                      You'll have to adjust the actual amount of sugar to the sweetness of your strawberries and you might want to experiment with putting the balsamic vinegar in at different times. This was my first batch and it was really tasty. This was combination of a few different recipes.

                                                                      BM

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                                                                        chef chicklet RE: BobMack Apr 21, 2007 12:27 PM

                                                                        Thanks I'm going to try with balsamic, fresh strawberry ice cream was a hit around here anyway. Was the reason you heated the milk, to dissolve the sugar?

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                                                                          BobMack RE: chef chicklet Apr 22, 2007 12:42 AM

                                                                          The reason I heat it is because I feel like it makes for a smoother ice cream. Somebody once explained to me why it comes out smoother but I can't remember the exact reason. Something about breaking up the proteins maybe.

                                                                          I'm sure it does help dissolve the sugar too, but I've heated the milk/cream mixture without the sugar in it yet before also.

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                                                                    mellamac RE: chef chicklet Dec 3, 2007 03:56 PM

                                                                    I've recently been given my nona's Cusinart ice cream /fozen yogurt maker
                                                                    but she ni longer had the instruction booklet it's model ICE 40 BK it has 2 freezer bowls
                                                                    I read your recipe & would love to make some homemade ice cream with my children Can any one offer any help I would be most grateful

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                                                                      chef chicklet RE: mellamac Dec 3, 2007 05:13 PM

                                                                      mellamac, which recipe were you wanting? Good for you having two freezer bowls, you'll use them!

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                                                                        mellamac RE: chef chicklet Dec 10, 2007 09:49 AM

                                                                        Thank you for responding
                                                                        I would probably start out wih the basic until I get to know the machine Do you keep your bowls in the freezer all the time and about how long should you churn (mix?) before it's ready & then do you put it in the freezer I really am a novice Thanks

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                                                                          dolores RE: mellamac Dec 10, 2007 10:06 AM

                                                                          mellamac, I'm new to ice cream making as well and someone here suggested 'The Perfect Scoop'. It looks to be an excellent book.

                                                                          The Vietnamese coffee ice cream is calling my name.

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