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  <id>387010</id>
  <title>Best Mac and Cheese - LA</title>
  <published_at>Sat Mar 31 16:22:59 -0700 2007</published_at>
  <post_count>99</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>2</id>
    <name>Los Angeles Area</name>
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      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>2439073</id>
        <content>Where do I find it? Where is the BEST mac and cheese in the city...I am craving this dish and wondering where to go, heard its great at Nook, any other recs, let me know --- thanx hounds!</content>
        <published_at>Sat Mar 31 16:22:59 -0700 2007</published_at>
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        <user>
          <id>18847</id>
          <name>love2chow</name>
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      </post>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2439079</id>
      <content>Mastro's Steak has a great mac and gorganzola. I just the stuff, oh they have steaks too.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Mar 31 16:27:52 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>43855</id>
        <name>sdv231</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2439105</id>
      <content>be forewarned, this is VERY blue-cheesy, not a classic Cheddar Mac'n'Cheese</content>
      <published_at>Sat Mar 31 16:39:36 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439079</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>17232</id>
        <name>msmd310</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2439096</id>
      <content>For a quick fix, the one in the frozen section of Trader Joe's in awesome. </content>
      <published_at>Sat Mar 31 16:35:53 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>12268</id>
        <name>mollyomormon</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2439504</id>
      <content>It certainly has ricotta in it, which gets a yippee! from this girl.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Mar 31 20:49:47 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439096</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>15572</id>
        <name>Emme</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2441593</id>
      <content>VILE!! full of sodium. look at the label for salt content. far too much.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Apr 01 20:33:01 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439096</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>49187</id>
        <name>Hungry Girl</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>2443045</id>
      <content>I'm not exaclty eating mac and cheese for the meals I want to eat healthily. It probably has a lot of fat too, right? ;)</content>
      <published_at>Mon Apr 02 10:50:39 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2441593</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>12268</id>
        <name>mollyomormon</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>2443089</id>
      <content>C'mon - you've already hit on two of the four major food groups - salt, fat, sugar and artificial flavors... I grew up living on this stuff since the 60's and I'm okay... Oh sweet mercy - someone get the paddles - my heart's going into di-fib!!</content>
      <published_at>Mon Apr 02 11:03:16 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2443045</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>64003</id>
        <name>bulavinaka</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2439267</id>
      <content>M&amp;M Soul Food on Crenshaw and MLK Blvd. </content>
      <published_at>Sat Mar 31 18:08:55 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>68007</id>
        <name>wizardx</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2439291</id>
      <content>The truffled mac &amp; cheese at Blair's in Silverlake is amazing, but new-school (meaning no crispy crust, and they use a variety of white cheeses, not yellow). If you want old-style mac &amp; cheese, try the ones at Luna Park (with or without ham) and Fred 62. O'Bar has lobster mac &amp; cheese - yum.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Mar 31 18:27:26 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>17675</id>
        <name>Clare K</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2439309</id>
      <content>I'm partial to YardHouse (they have great Happy Hour) and was surprised that their Mac &amp; Cheese was pretty good.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Mar 31 18:39:14 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>12873</id>
        <name>OCAnn</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2439315</id>
      <content>Luna Park on La Brea has a really good version of mac &amp; cheese with broccoli, and you can have it with or without Neuske Smoked Ham.

</content>
      <published_at>Sat Mar 31 18:42:52 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>63713</id>
        <name>tony michaels</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2439420</id>
      <content>best? I don't know, but Kate Matalini's on Wilshire is pretty good. </content>
      <published_at>Sat Mar 31 19:54:36 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10366</id>
        <name>Jerome</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2439518</id>
      <content>Violet...hands down.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Mar 31 20:56:49 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>21341</id>
        <name>hrhboo</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2439614</id>
      <content>Totally random, but the Belmont on La Cienega has a great mac and cheese with crabmeat and pancetta. Good stuff. Can almost eat it as a meal with a small salad.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Mar 31 22:28:27 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>23526</id>
        <name>kproq323</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2439621</id>
      <content>My faves are Luna Park and Musso and Frank's</content>
      <published_at>Sat Mar 31 22:33:18 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>15674</id>
        <name>holybull</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2439638</id>
      <content>kookoo roo or el pollo loco has good mac n cheese</content>
      <published_at>Sat Mar 31 22:50:22 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>69558</id>
        <name>lapchern</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2440439</id>
      <content>My vote is Koo Koo Roo for sure.  The one at EPL is too 'plasticy' and artificial.  We recently fell in love with the version at Nook... Excellent!!  I also love Luna Parks because I like Brocolli in my Mac N Cheese. :)

--Dommy!</content>
      <published_at>Sun Apr 01 11:23:47 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439638</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10659</id>
        <name>Dommy</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2440813</id>
      <content>Gotta agree with Koo Koo Roo.  El Pollo Loco tastes like Macaroni and Cheeze Whiz - ok when you're desperate but otherwise no thanks.  I also like the Mac and Cheese at the Outdoor Grill in Venice.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Apr 01 14:20:36 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439638</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>21474</id>
        <name>Marvin</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>3291081</id>
      <content>here i always thought i was eating healthy at koo koo roo with their flamed skinless chicken. didn't think that the mac and cheese side i usually get could have been bad for me XD...</content>
      <published_at>Sun Jan 13 12:49:47 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>2440813</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11521</id>
        <name>rameniac</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2439674</id>
      <content>duh...MIMOSA on beverly blvd.

although the recipe is widely published, not many people can get it to turn out.  that includes me.  so we just keep going there to eat it.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Mar 31 23:29:25 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>22959</id>
        <name>revets2</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2444907</id>
      <content>Concur</content>
      <published_at>Mon Apr 02 20:53:06 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439674</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10210</id>
        <name>russkar</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3288398</id>
      <content>Another vote for Mimosa!</content>
      <published_at>Sat Jan 12 11:06:32 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439674</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>154193</id>
        <name>EliAnnKat</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2440254</id>
      <content>maybe not the best - but certianly the most surprisingly yummy:  the VEGAN (!) mac &amp; cheese at Madeleine Bistro, in Tarzana.  Go figure.
p.s. thanks for the question - now I've got a BUNCH more places to try! :)</content>
      <published_at>Sun Apr 01 10:02:27 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>87542</id>
        <name>cleanmyplate</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2440278</id>
      <content>Roscoe's has yummy mac and cheese if you're looking for a more traditional version. </content>
      <published_at>Sun Apr 01 10:13:19 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>64572</id>
        <name>highforpie</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2441690</id>
      <content>I second Roscoe's!!  I lived in Atlanta for many years and ate much delicious traditional Southern mac and cheese and their's fits the bill in the old school category.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Apr 01 21:25:31 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2440278</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>82634</id>
        <name>sarahvagaca</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>2447133</id>
      <content>It's like a rich, creamy mac'n'cheese souffl&#233;. First time I tried it, I thought, "If you love mac'n'cheese and you're REALLY good, this is what you'll get in Heaven."

The Pasadena Roscoe's used to be the only one that had this every day. Is that still true?</content>
      <published_at>Tue Apr 03 13:39:42 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2441690</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11478</id>
        <name>Will Owen</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>3287065</id>
      <content>Thirded by from a girl from Memphis! :)  Though, with my family recipe, I almost never buy mac n cheese. I have to make it for it to be right. :) </content>
      <published_at>Fri Jan 11 18:26:48 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>2441690</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>150969</id>
        <name>RaeRenee</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2440490</id>
      <content>Aunt Kizzy's brings back some memories of of good comfort food, especially their mac&amp;cheese.  Being that every bite makes me feel like I might as well slather it directly on to my belly, I've refrained from eating there for years.  I can't see it even remotely resembling something from say, Mastro's or Violet, but It's really really rich, and tastes very down-home...</content>
      <published_at>Sun Apr 01 11:57:12 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>64003</id>
        <name>bulavinaka</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2440491</id>
      <content>it's all about preference - do you like the basic ( aunt kizzy's for example ) or the modern - maestro's with the blue cheese ( it might be gargonzola...can't remember ) or with truffle oil ...personally, i like it with a crunchy/crispy top ( not by broiling with panko or other bread crumbs ) and a strong sharp, white cheddar/cream sauce ...but not the sauce not to thin....nook's was good....for awhile kings fish house made a decent m&amp;c but last visit i was disappointed...had an interesting goat cheese m&amp;c at casey's in downtown...not sure if they make anymore...when it's all said and done...i like mine the best !!!  happy hunting !</content>
      <published_at>Sun Apr 01 11:57:24 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11751</id>
        <name>kjs</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2440494</id>
      <content>Mastros is def gorgonzola........delish</content>
      <published_at>Sun Apr 01 11:59:37 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2440491</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>43855</id>
        <name>sdv231</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2440499</id>
      <content>My vote goes for Lola's -- It's simple - no truffles, or whatnot, but it is incredible. </content>
      <published_at>Sun Apr 01 12:01:15 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>65199</id>
        <name>Marianna215</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2444813</id>
      <content>I second Lola's, there other food is pretty forgettable, but the mac &amp; cheese is amazing, lots and lots of oozing cheese.  YUM.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Apr 02 20:13:12 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2440499</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>24869</id>
        <name>BBB</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2441218</id>
      <content>Elf cafe at echo park has this awsome blue cheese mac and cheese.... yumm....</content>
      <published_at>Sun Apr 01 17:44:19 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>65117</id>
        <name>radgirl</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2441365</id>
      <content>SO and I just had lunch at Joan's on Third and drooled as someone walked by with a dish of mac n' cheese - we've never tried it, but vowed to upon our return.  It looked fantastic (as is everything at Joan's)!</content>
      <published_at>Sun Apr 01 18:51:19 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>59549</id>
        <name>aching</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2467202</id>
      <content>As promised, I tried Joan's mac n' cheese this weekend - brought a piece home and heated it in the microwave.  It was very very tasty - not unusual or inventive in any way, just good ole mac n' cheese, the way comfort foods should be.  I would recommend it to anyone looking for the taste of homemade without the work.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Apr 10 10:59:20 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2441365</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>59549</id>
        <name>aching</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2441615</id>
      <content>We get it at Koo Koo Roo, bring it home, and put in the toaster oven to brown the top.   Delicious!</content>
      <published_at>Sun Apr 01 20:47:45 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>56406</id>
        <name>Bite Me</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2441703</id>
      <content>Cynthia's on 3rd st. has by far the best mac n' cheese in the entire world.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Apr 01 21:37:16 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>76858</id>
        <name>assassin</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2460108</id>
      <content>What kind of cheeses does it have, do you know?  Is it a creamy, less creamy, crusty, excess (useless) ingredients type, or just standard?  I've never found a good entree to have while counting down the minutes to cobbler...</content>
      <published_at>Sat Apr 07 18:56:43 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2441703</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>15572</id>
        <name>Emme</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2441962</id>
      <content>The Dive near Melrose and Highland has a pretty swell Mac n' Cheese...

</content>
      <published_at>Mon Apr 02 02:08:55 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>20664</id>
        <name>therealbigtasty</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2442364</id>
      <content>I like the jalapeno mac and cheese at Flemings. 
Having said that, it used to have more of a 'kick' and I liked it better then, but it's still pretty good.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Apr 02 07:51:25 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>44913</id>
        <name>CEfromLA</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2442448</id>
      <content>The Mac and Cheese at the Tiarra Cafe downtown is the best I have ever had.  Unfortunately they are only open for lunch during the week.  Great vibe in there as well!</content>
      <published_at>Mon Apr 02 08:10:54 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2442364</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>75707</id>
        <name>RobertC</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2444572</id>
      <content>We enjoy Mac &amp; cheese from Koo Koo Roo but it seems to vary from location to location.  When it's good though, it's REALLY good.  
It's an easy food to make at home, so we usually don't eat it out.  We like to experiment using various cheeses (thank you trader joes!) and my current fave is 2/3 sharp cabot cheddar and 1/3 jarlsberg swiss. </content>
      <published_at>Mon Apr 02 18:34:29 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13137</id>
        <name>jackattack</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2444944</id>
      <content>This may not sound refined but really like the mac n cheese at King's Fish House. 

There use to be a restaurant on Hermosa Pier that had this amazing Mac n Cheese with oversized elbow macaroni and it was baked in individual ramekins with onion and cayenne pepper and nice crusty top. This was about 5 years ago.  It's now a different restaurant. :-(</content>
      <published_at>Mon Apr 02 21:08:32 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>25247</id>
        <name>Veggietales</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2444995</id>
      <content>-Nook
-Luna Park, no ham. Makes it too salty...
-Ketchup (surprisingly!) on Sunset - made w/ gruyere &amp; Dungeness crab
-Cheesecake Factory, if you're into friend mac &amp; cheese balls. Comes with marinara. I normally detest C.cake Factory, but this single dish makes it bearable.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Apr 02 21:46:14 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>60019</id>
        <name>choysauce</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2445003</id>
      <content>I just remembered ... I once really enjoyed the Mac 'N Cheese at Clifton's.

www.cliftonscafeteria.com</content>
      <published_at>Mon Apr 02 21:51:06 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11583</id>
        <name>ipsedixit</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2445160</id>
      <content>Traditional:  Flossie's
Gourmet:  Red White + Bluezz</content>
      <published_at>Tue Apr 03 00:18:45 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>50350</id>
        <name>SauceSupreme</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3291051</id>
      <content>Amen, the fried Mac and Cheese at RWB with the tomato dipping sauce is the bomb!!!</content>
      <published_at>Sun Jan 13 12:35:00 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>2445160</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>157105</id>
        <name>Minimang</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2446933</id>
      <content>Simon LA - I had it a few months ago and still crave it again.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Apr 03 12:57:21 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>88284</id>
        <name>lillulu</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2446978</id>
      <content>If you ever want to stay at home, Stouffer's does very well in a pinch!</content>
      <published_at>Tue Apr 03 13:05:36 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2446933</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>78611</id>
        <name>aurora50</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>2447149</id>
      <content>Stouffer's does EXTREMELY well. I used to keep a bunch of it in the freezer just for the kind of "emergency" that consists of a cold, rainy day and the sudden realization that it's lunchtime. A single-serving pan of that and a hot dog...YUM!</content>
      <published_at>Tue Apr 03 13:44:24 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2446978</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11478</id>
        <name>Will Owen</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>2448431</id>
      <content>If you're gonna stay home, aside from bringing in Koo Koo Roo, Gelson's and Ralph's do pretty darn good versions; I like them better than Stouffer's as they do a crusty, browned version.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Apr 03 21:11:58 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2447149</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>15572</id>
        <name>Emme</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>2476119</id>
      <content>Stouffers is 2 bucks this week at Vons! </content>
      <published_at>Thu Apr 12 17:55:05 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2447149</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13137</id>
        <name>jackattack</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2447671</id>
      <content>If you don't mind chains and some creative licenses -- the Mac 'n Cheese at Yard House is really good -- truffle oil, chicken breast &amp; bacon pieces with mushrooms, I believe.

Agreed that Violets have a good version too.

I also remembered liking Luna Park &amp; Lola's a lot - though been a while since I had either.

~H.C.
http://la-oc-foodie.blogspot.com</content>
      <published_at>Tue Apr 03 16:08:20 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11949</id>
        <name>AquaW</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2448451</id>
      <content>Velveeta cheese...one of the secret ingredients to a baked three cheese mac and cheese made by a co-worker's mother.  I nearly fell over in awe when I ate this and the rest of the plate lunch she brought me.  Perfect mac and cheese, greens, baked beans, corn muffin, and pork ribs...one word, heaven!  She told me the recipes were her mom's secret, but when I recognized the taste of Velveeta, she did admit to that.  The other two cheeses was not given up.  Believe it or not, that Velveeta made the jaw dropping taste! </content>
      <published_at>Tue Apr 03 21:24:29 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2447671</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>71365</id>
        <name>velozo155</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2457752</id>
      <content>Has anyone tried Clifton's Cafeteria?
Their mac and cheese is famous but it's been years since i've been...</content>
      <published_at>Fri Apr 06 13:37:48 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10366</id>
        <name>Jerome</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2457773</id>
      <content>Yup, I just did ... after suggesting it about 10 posts up on this thread.

</content>
      <published_at>Fri Apr 06 13:46:21 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2457752</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11583</id>
        <name>ipsedixit</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>2459415</id>
      <content>This is great! So many new places to try out. I personally like the mac and cheese at petes cafe downtown on 4th and main.  Its a white cheese dish with thick browned melted cheese on top that resembles a bowl of french onion soup when you get it.  </content>
      <published_at>Sat Apr 07 13:35:06 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2457773</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>89553</id>
        <name>JordanL310</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2460350</id>
      <content>I lament that Cole's PE Buffet downtown is now closed (so I understand) and until the powers of gentrification open it once more, I fear that the Mac n Cheese will be gone.  Not particualrily special by any means, but it just tasted good with the nice dark german beers  at the sticky bar.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Apr 07 21:26:23 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>76482</id>
        <name>travistarr</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2460572</id>
      <content>It's gone?  I was meaning to try that place.

Man...</content>
      <published_at>Sun Apr 08 02:22:52 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2460350</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>20664</id>
        <name>therealbigtasty</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>2465340</id>
      <content>the website is up. I called and the recording said that they are currently under construction, whatever that means.
</content>
      <published_at>Mon Apr 09 19:15:07 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2460572</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10366</id>
        <name>Jerome</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2467942</id>
      <content>The Kitchen! Blair's is good too.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Apr 10 13:52:42 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>37584</id>
        <name>cakers</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2468770</id>
      <content>Second for the Kitchen's Mac &amp; Cheese- lots of garlic with a crisped crust.  </content>
      <published_at>Tue Apr 10 17:56:01 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2467942</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>57059</id>
        <name>smonkey</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2468654</id>
      <content>Has anyone mentioned Fred 62?  Tasty Mac and Cheese and always open :)</content>
      <published_at>Tue Apr 10 17:18:56 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>69033</id>
        <name>emilymm</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2468710</id>
      <content>She doesn't have it everyday, but the mac n' cheese at Delilah Bakery in Echo Park is delicious - bow tie pasta with lots of nutmeg, and of course very cheesy!  Yum!</content>
      <published_at>Tue Apr 10 17:37:33 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>68447</id>
        <name>vfcastro</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2469114</id>
      <content>I'm always trying to find the good ones too.... here's what I got so far.....

Blair's in Silverlake:  I've had this mac n' cheese.  The consistency was good, and I enjoyed it quite a bit!  I think I remember wanting it to be sharper, but it did the trick and was is a pretty good deal for this somewhat expensive restaurant.

Fred 62's:  Horrible.  Oily.  Not flavorful.  Just sad, and so was I the whole time I ate it.

Cafe 101:  Very good!  Buttery, and kinda sharp.  Pretty damn oily, but that didn't seem to matter.  Only thing is that they never seem to have any available, especially in the evenings.  I think they have a daily batch and once it's gone, it's gone for the day.  I've gone here just for the mac n' cheese and was bummed to be told I couldn't have it.

Roscoe's Chicken &amp; Waffles:  Not worth it at all.  You'd think it'd be good!  I think I always found the consistency unpleasant, and the flavor way too subtle.  And it's a tiny portion for way too much money. 

The Kitchen in Silverlake:  Delicious!  I was really blown away.  It's a garlic mac n' cheese.  Just so good!

Canters:  Bad news.  

If I can remember the others I've tried, I'll return.  Thanks!
</content>
      <published_at>Tue Apr 10 19:58:17 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>84204</id>
        <name>MarikoDeVille</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2469546</id>
      <content>I went to Roscoe's yesterday and while I really like the mac and cheese, I agree that it's wayyyy too expensive for how much they give you.  It was $4.25, I think, for a tiny bowl.  I probably wouldn't get it again, just on principle.  Plus, it just becomes a ridiculous amount of food when you add the mac and cheese, even with a small portion!</content>
      <published_at>Wed Apr 11 00:18:04 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2469114</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>82634</id>
        <name>sarahvagaca</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2490601</id>
      <content>I just remembered another mac n' cheese place!  Lucky Devil's on Hollywood &amp; Cherokee.  It was really really good, even though I think it was kinda small.  I wouldn't have expected anything else from a place like that though.  Worth it in the end, you just can't make a full meal out of it or anything.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Apr 17 19:13:46 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2469114</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>84204</id>
        <name>MarikoDeVille</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2472223</id>
      <content>Baby Blues BBQ on Lincoln/Rose in Venice-- their sides are non-trivially good.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Apr 11 16:49:58 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>90735</id>
        <name>rotto14</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2472994</id>
      <content>I second this...their mac is excellent, you'll need two!</content>
      <published_at>Wed Apr 11 21:22:17 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2472223</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>21341</id>
        <name>hrhboo</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>3287992</id>
      <content>Its pretty damn good, but for the BBQ joynt Mac and Cheese, I love Porkys....

--Dommy!</content>
      <published_at>Sat Jan 12 08:18:41 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>2472994</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10659</id>
        <name>Dommy</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3289409</id>
      <content>+1 Baby blues. Also try the mac and cheese at phillips bbq - cheese insanity.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Jan 12 17:36:52 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>2472223</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>82632</id>
        <name>trojandude</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2472475</id>
      <content>Pete's Cafe in downtown has an exceptional mac &amp; cheese, if you can hang with the atrocious service. So good it's probably worth the wait. 

My recent full review of Pete's here:

http://www.laist.com/archives/2007/04/04/i_love_petes_cafe_i_hate_petes_cafe.php


Enjoy! &#169;
</content>
      <published_at>Wed Apr 11 18:09:17 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>20200</id>
        <name>Pesky_Humans</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2474647</id>
      <content>Try FLEMING'S.  great mac n' cheese dish, although pretty much all of their sides are worth it.  try the beef flemington while you're at it...no one else makes it and it is outstanding.  there is one in manhattan beach on rosecrans, but not sure where the others are.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Apr 12 11:38:39 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2472475</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>81583</id>
        <name>barno</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2476276</id>
      <content>Have to respectfully disagree.  Was at Pete's at the end of last year.  The mac was just a goopy mush lacking any real flavor.  It just tasted arbitrarily overly creamy and cheesy, but with no specific flavor and tasted a bit rancid actually.  Admittedly, I'm not a goat cheese fan to begin with, but we were so disappointed with the mac that we left basically left the whole pot.  I'm more of a traditionalist when it comes to mac'n'cheese, so maybe that's why I didn't like it.  For so-called purists, my guess is you won't find Pete's hits the spot.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Apr 12 18:47:53 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2472475</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>15572</id>
        <name>Emme</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>2476317</id>
      <content>I completely agree with you. I was so excited to try Pete's after so many recs on this board and then was completely disappointed because there just wasn't that discernable cheese flavor that I was seeking. I felt kind of the same way about Blair's, actually. I did like the blue cheese fries at Pete's a lot, though. I'll have to try some of the other recs here for mac and cheese...</content>
      <published_at>Thu Apr 12 19:03:30 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2476276</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>12268</id>
        <name>mollyomormon</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>2489480</id>
      <content>I agree about being disappointed by the mac n' cheese at Blair's. It was okay, but I expected more based on rave reviews. </content>
      <published_at>Tue Apr 17 13:38:24 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2476317</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>66535</id>
        <name>teach</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>2503336</id>
      <content>a third vote for Pete's mac and cheese being goopy and kinda icky.  supposedly it's a favorite...but not from the one lunch experience i had a few months back. boo.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Apr 21 22:49:15 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2476317</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>40659</id>
        <name>ctowngal</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2476350</id>
      <content>just had the mac n' cheese at Chaya Venice on a whim last weekend and was pleasantly surprised.  white truffle mac n' cheese but nice and crusty on top.  mmm...

</content>
      <published_at>Thu Apr 12 19:17:34 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>90804</id>
        <name>lakeshow318</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2500962</id>
      <content>I second this, a lighter version, not so traditional, but very tasty</content>
      <published_at>Fri Apr 20 16:31:06 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2476350</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>92633</id>
        <name>elgordorocks</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3283885</id>
      <content>Cezanne in Santa Monica (at Le Merigot Hotel) has a Thurs. night mac 'n cheese tasting menu.3 different varieties are offered each week. You can get 1 choice for $12 or a sampler of all 3 for $14. When I went in Nov. they had Lobster w Black Truffle made with five cheeses &#8211; parmesan, mozzarella, Goat, Gouda, Brie; Garganelli with St Andr&#233;, Shrimp and Spinach and Truffle Tortellini Cream, Parmesan and Raw Milk Manchego Cheese. They were served on a great platter in 3 differently shaped ramekins. </content>
      <published_at>Thu Jan 10 21:55:24 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>156430</id>
        <name>lovemacandcheese</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3283913</id>
      <content>Truffles, lobster, shrimp, truffle oil?  Tasty, perhaps.  Expensive, definitely.  But it is now a different dish -- truffled pasta with cheese, seafood alfredo.  This is NOT mac 'n' cheese.  I'll go back to where we started:  Nook.  Mac 'n' cheese with a panko breadcrumb crust, about $6, served as a starter or side at dinner and with a nice Ceasar salad at lunch.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Jan 10 22:13:02 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3283885</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10855</id>
        <name>nosh</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>3284023</id>
      <content>That's why there's chocolate and vanilla. Different interpretation, a little bit country, a little rock 'n roll, is what makes LA dining so great. I loved the gourmet experience of it all, contrarian maybe but delish. $14 for dinner ain't bad, and a starter of mesclun, poached pears and roasted pecan salad was a perfect meal.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Jan 11 00:11:19 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3283913</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>156430</id>
        <name>lovemacandcheese</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>3284056</id>
      <content>Well, I guess I could level the same analysis at Campanile's "Grilled Cheese" nights.  $14 for samples of three variations of mac'n'cheese isn't too horrible, except you are mostly paying for the truffles, lobster, and truffle oil and not really tasting the mac'n'cheese.  </content>
      <published_at>Fri Jan 11 01:37:44 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3284023</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10855</id>
        <name>nosh</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3287083</id>
      <content>This might be the best thing I've heard all week. :)  I know what I'm doing next week. :)</content>
      <published_at>Fri Jan 11 18:35:09 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3283885</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>150969</id>
        <name>RaeRenee</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3285292</id>
      <content>BEST is kind of a loaded term. If you are looking for fabulous, consistent and sublime mac and cheese, let me steer you Boneyard Bisto on Ventura blvd. They perfectly deep fry their mac and cheese in 3inch by 3inch triangles and serve some hot sauce on the side. Imagine a perfectly brown crunchy exterior and a molten cheesey center. If you're going to go to the cardiac cath lab, this is the way to do it.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Jan 11 10:28:08 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>66416</id>
        <name>orythedog</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3285482</id>
      <content>I actually really like The Belmont's (La Cienaga) mac and cheese. With blue crab its a little different than the traditional style, but still amazing. </content>
      <published_at>Fri Jan 11 11:14:57 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>16949</id>
        <name>augustus gloob</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3285518</id>
      <content>Had the mac and cheese at Comme Ca last weekend.  Loved it.  As did my two-year-old.  As did the rest of the table.  It tasted like mac and cheese.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Jan 11 11:24:47 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>151099</id>
        <name>la tache burger</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3287272</id>
      <content>Yum. Linking ...</content>
      <published_at>Fri Jan 11 20:06:02 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>85884</id>
        <name>maxzook</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3288751</id>
      <content>And more links ...</content>
      <published_at>Sat Jan 12 13:19:14 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3287272</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>85884</id>
        <name>maxzook</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>3289195</id>
      <content>Please note that the Porky's that Dommy, P, and I have raved about is the one on Manchester, east of La Brea and west of the Forum.  I have mixed feelings about them opening another branch, which I'm not sure is operational yet, since despite the food being fantastic (pulled pork, pork ribs, mac'n'cheese, Golden Bird fried chicken) and the managers very friendly and trying very hard, they always seem to be having trouble holding their act together:  rookies learning how to use the cash register, missing items that need to be reminded about...  Still, by far my new favorite place for BBQ, and an amazing value quantity and price-wise.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Jan 12 16:05:35 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3288751</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10855</id>
        <name>nosh</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>3289634</id>
      <content>Noted.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Jan 12 19:22:16 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3289195</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>85884</id>
        <name>maxzook</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3289285</id>
      <content>If you're in the south bay area, Bora Bora has amazing mac 'n cheese.  Served in a skillet to get that crunchy topping!  </content>
      <published_at>Sat Jan 12 16:46:24 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>46305</id>
        <name>amela</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3289683</id>
      <content>The  Brentwood Restaurant has an awesomely rich version of Mac and Cheese that's worth a try.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Jan 12 19:48:04 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>19283</id>
        <name>gsw</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3289870</id>
      <content>The mac n cheese at Buffalo Club in Santa Monica is outstanding. Says they use Vermont cheddar but its definitely a mix of other types of cheeses. Awesome. </content>
      <published_at>Sat Jan 12 21:25:06 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>156985</id>
        <name>dustin</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3291850</id>
      <content>The Mac&amp;Cheese side dish at Nick and Stef's (Downtown) is to die for.  I go there and just order sides sometimes I love it so much.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Jan 13 17:34:30 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>102452</id>
        <name>ausfrench</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3298957</id>
      <content>Catching up on links ...</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jan 15 16:14:18 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3291850</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>85884</id>
        <name>maxzook</name>
      </user>
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      <level>1</level>
      <id>4989635</id>
      <content>Beachfront Mac n' Cheese and BY FAR THE BEST!!!  The Boxer Cafe serves a 5-cheese gourmet mac n' cheese that you can take to go!!!!  They serve these great combinations including Burger Mac, Tuna Mac, Chili Mac and the most amazing dish called 'Love In a Bowl' which is mac n' cheese with pulled pork......to die for.  They also have a mac n' cheese sandwich!!!!!</content>
      <published_at>Sat Aug 29 21:39:33 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>107939</id>
        <name>ermoloff</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4989811</id>
      <content>I love mac and cheese, too. . ..  Anytime I see it on the menu i will order it - most of the time its a side dish. . .i know in NYC they have these all Mac N Cheese Restaurants - S'Mac - http://www.smacnyc.com/.  I know LA has Paddy Mac - http://www.eatpaddymac.com/

I do like Ketchup's Mac N Cheese. I have had Kate Mantilini's Mac N Cheese - if I remember correctly with Broccoli.  Grub's and Nook's Mac N Cheese is quite good, too.  But probably, off the top of my head, I like Roscoe's as one of my favorites.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Aug 30 03:00:51 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>253447</id>
        <name>thirstypig</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5006606</id>
      <content>With Mimosa &amp; Violet gone it's now up to Bandera in CDM to carry the torch. </content>
      <published_at>Fri Sep 04 21:39:15 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>2439073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10210</id>
        <name>russkar</name>
      </user>
    </post>
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