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Mar 28, 2007 08:28 AM

Holiday Inn Civic Center

Staying here in mid April. Have two questions:

1) Suggestions for mid range to fine dining within walking distance?

2) What is the area like? Is it a good/safe place to be walking around?

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  1. That Holiday Inn is on the border of the Tenderloin and the area probably looks worse than it is. You just need to use your street smarts. If you are a woman best not to carry a nice handbag. It's busy a busy area during the day and you will want to cab it back after dinner.

    Can you be more specific as to what you are looking for in terms of type of food, atmosphere, what experience are you looking for, etc. There plenty of places near by and that will depend on if you don't mind walking 7-10 blocks or just taking a cab somewhere close.

    Hayes Valley is a nice neighborhood, very close easy walk (daylight) and like I said you can cab it back.

    You are close to Zuni Cafe, Citizen Cake, Sebo (sushi), Cav (wine bar and food), Jardiniere.

    There are a ton of good place in the Tenderloin.
    Here are some links- Larkin Tour, You very close to Larkin Street-

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    1. re: Lori SF

      I agree with what Lori said about the neighborhood. It's also half a block from the Civic Center BART/Muni Metro station, so you have easy access to a wide range of places.

      1. re: Lori SF

        I'm not particularly comfortable about not being able to walk to a restaurant for dinner. We're coming from Boston, which has its share of crime, but I can't think of a single hotel that I would warn someone not to walk to a restaurant from. RWORANGE, below, seems to agree with you. Is the concensus that I should look for another hotel?

        Cusine wise we are not particular, just would like to try neighborhood favorites that are not overly casual (except for lunch).

        1. re: Fort Point

          It is pretty much all super casual restaurants (hole-in-the-wall) in that immediate area ... the most famous being Tu Lan on 6th. Lunch at Tu Lan could be interesting ... but strolling back to the hotel after a dinner would be less than scenic. Feel free to email me regarding my thoughts on that hotel as that is not within the scope of this board and will get deleted.

          1. re: rworange

            I wouldn't recommend anyone walk to Tu Lan -- if you want Vietnamese, you can do just as well walking up Larkin, everything from hole-in-the-wall casual to moderately upscale (Bodega Bistro). And there's Gyro King (or whatever it's called now) right across the street). If you do a search for "Civic Center" you'll get dozens of discussions that cover the options pretty well.

            I think the area right around Civic Center/8th Market is reasonably safe -- there's a lot of "good" foot traffic there at night from people attending events at the various venues. If the poster wants some ideas for hotels, she can drop me a line in the address in my profile.

            1. re: Ruth Lafler

              Lots of great eats a few blocks in several directions, but I wouldn't recommend staying around there either.

      2. That's at the corner of 8th and Market, right by BART and the streetcars. You could take the surface vintage streetcar to Zuni, the J line to Incanto, anything to downtown, lots of choices.

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        1. re: Robert Lauriston

          Yeah ... what everyone else said. Like Robert said, head towards Market Street. If you go left it will take you to Zuni territory ... also DeLassio (do a search) and a little further up, the Castro. A right will take you down Market toward Union Square and at the end of Market the Ferry Building. Not to scare you off, that Holiday Inn itself is pretty decent. I've actually stayed there. However the immediate street surrounding it is not on SF's scenic route. There is also the West something shopping center with Nordstrom that has a few eating options ... over-priced and not over-praised options ... but still.

          1. re: rworange

            If you're eating lunch in the neighborhood, DeLessio's is a *great* resource.


            Another good lunch option, walk up Larkin to Saigon Sandwich for banh mi.

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          1. Appreciate your restaurant suggestions and area comments. Based on your comments we have decided to change hotels and will be staying at the Marina Inn. Will post a separate thread for that location. Thanks again.

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            1. re: Fort Point

              Spent one night at the Maina Inn (paper thin walls and a radio in a nearby room blasting R&R at five in the mornign). Spent the rest of the week at the Holiay Inn and really enjoyed it. Not much in the area for dining but we took advantage of the the F Line streetcars and cabs. Right around the corner from the hotel was the Market St. Grill which we ate in twice (SF chowder with truffle oil, Portobello Mushroom Ravioli with fava beans, crab cakes first visit and the second visit fried calamari, papardelle with smoked chicken and another crab cake -- food was very good, service was marginal).

              Lunch at the Top of the Mark - spectacular view, mediocre food. Dinner at ISA - all excellent - oysters, house cured salmon, carmalized day boat scallops and sweetbreads.

              Lunch at Cliff House (Sutras) - day boat scallops and crab cake - both very good. Lunch was late so we hit Zuni for a nice selection of oysters for dinner.

              Did the farmers market at the ferry building and had an excellent Ahi Tuna Burger at Taylor's Refresher. Dinner at Roy's Hawaiian; they have a counter you can sit at that overlooks the kitchen. Shared fois gras, lobster pot stickers an a trio of seafood (butter fish, salmon and tuna) all was excellent.

              Lunch at the CIA in wine country. Today's Temptations - small bites prepared by the chef then asparagus tart with sweet breads and beef capaccio.

              Last meal was at Boulevard - really excellent. Calamari stuffed with lobster, fois gras, butterfish and dayboat scallops.

              SF is a great eating town!!

              1. re: Fort Point

                Thanks so much for reporting back! I'm glad you had a good visit.

                I ate at the Market St. Grill several years ago when I was considering using that hotel for a small convention (which we did, and went back again a couple of years later). I thought the food was really pretty good for a hotel restaurant (and the banquet food was decent as well). Thanks for the update!

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