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Any Rose` recommendations?

I have limited experience with Rose` but I am interested in learning more about it. I recently tried Palmina Botesea Rosato, a mix of 20% Barbera, 50% Dolcetto and 30% Nebiolo. Sounded better on the shelf than it delivered in the glass, although I have never been a big fan of Dolcetto, so that may be my issue with this one. Coming summer season looks like a good time to expand my horizons.

Looking for recommendations in the $25 or less range.

Also, what should I bee looking for in a good Rose`?

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  1. I'm mad about Rose for summer drinking... it rather replaces red for me during hot weather.

    There are many good ones, and they don't ahve to be expensive. One of my favorites is E. Guigal's Cote du Rhone Rose at around $8.99 a bottle, depending upon your area.

    One of the very best I've ever had is Chimney Rock's Rose of Cabernet Franc, but it's quite a bit more expensive... around $20.

    And in the Rose Sparkling category, Nicolas Feuliiatte makes a great value Rose Champagne... in some stores for $28.99!

    1. I love a good Rose. Some of the best I have had have been French and Spanish, but make sure you get a fresh one. Nothing older than 2005.

      Some I like from California are: McDowell Grenache Rose, I'M Rose (Cab Sauv), Fife Redhead Rose (but it has been years). I am sure there are others on this board who will direct you.

      1. Both of the ones I enjoy are Spanish (from the Tarragona region, I think).

        Nostrada for $7.99 is nice (used to be $6.99 at place called Total Wine in VA).

        1+1=3 is another (yep that's the name)...I think around 11 or 12 dollars a bottle.

        1. The obnoxious reply: Kosta Browne.

          That said, if you *happen* to come across it, get it. Easily the best domestic rose I've tasted.

          Of wine you might be able to find...

          Domestic: Saintsbury "Code Pink" and Fortitude (the second label of Etude) make good ones. Both are in the upper teens.

          Imported: I've always thought that Vega Sindoa -- which is rediculously cheap -- makes a good one. Also from Spain, 1+1=3 is quite nice. Guigal (Rhone) makes a good Tavel. I've liked Domaine Tempier (Bandol) Rose in the past. That is getting up there in price, though. Regaleali's (Sicily) is hit-or-miss, but can be very good.

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          1. re: whiner

            Domaine Tempier Bandol Rosé is pretty much the benchmark for me... yes, I think it costs $15 - $30... HIGH! The Chimney Rock is around $19, and St. Supéry's is around $16. both super.

            1. re: whiner

              Actually the KB is easy to get, just be willing to spend 3 or 4 times the release price on wine bid. Not.

              E. Gugal makes a very nice Cotes du Rhone Rose that is easy to find and relatively inexpensive. Chateau du Donjon also makes a very nice vin de pays rose that is a very good buy at less than $10.

              1. re: dinwiddie

                I haven't tried it, but I know people who love Avondale Cabernet Sauvignon Rosé for something at the $10-12 price point.

            2. Buehler Vineyards does a great one...it's really the only one I've ever had (I'm a total red snob) but it's pretty good...

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              1. re: Quesera

                Lord, there are so many terrific roses/rosados/rosati available for under $15. Some of my favorites include rosato from Puglia, based on negroamaro or uva di troia or a blend: Cantele, Rivera, Conte Zecca, Rosa del Golfo are some names to look for. There are, of coruse, the Provence roses, some of them fruitless, but also many well-balanced such as Ch. Pourcieux. New to market from Robert Kacher is Domaine de Gournier, a lovely merlot/grenache/etc blend for under $10.

              2. ch guiot and costieres de nimes - both are Kacher selections; albrecht makes a good and inexpensive rose sparkler; solorosa from CA

                1. Not knowing where you are located, and what might be available, I'll give you two. The first is a sub-region, and almost anything from there will be good: Tavel, Southern Rhône, FR.

                  Next, a domestic: Beckman Grenache Rosé, Central Coast (might be subbed to Monterey), CA.


                  1. Check out Turkeyflat Rose from Australia or Ojai Rose from California. Two of the best values but depending on where you are it may be hard to locate either. Cheers!

                    1. My favorite (so far) of the 2006 examples just coming to market is the 2006 Edmunds St. John "Bone-Jolly" Rosé. Produced from Gamay Noir au jus blanc, grown high in El Dorado Co. in the Sierra Foothills of California -- great stuff! Full retail is $16. Already got myself a case.

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                      1. re: zin1953

                        Just had this last night, and it was great. Did the tasting at Vintage Berekely a few eeks back. I'll have to go pick up some more this weekend!

                      2. Ooh I can't wait for rose season, not warm anough in NY yet. I like spicier/dryer roses. It's very easy to find the sweeter stuff (like Muga Rioja rosado) which is also OK. My favorites last summer were:
                        Antichi Vigneti di Cantalupo Colline Novaresi "Il Mimo", nebbiolo based, $13
                        Jean-Maurice Ruffault Chinon rose, $12
                        Pares Balta Penedes "Ros de Pacs", $12
                        This summer I plan to explore more southern France roses, Moore Brothers seems to have an interesting selection.

                        1. Thanks to all for the many recommendations. We don't have much previous experience with Rose` so this is a good learning experience. I have begun hunting down some of the suggestions, and picking up a few others as I see them in stores. We have also begun testing them out on our friends and guests. So far, we have found that serving Rose` at the correct temperature to be even more critical to appreciating the wine than with most white wine. Too cold, and the flavors seem to be completely lost. I think we have the makings of a fun summer "science project".

                          Here is what we have found so far:

                          Found and bought the E Guigal at $8.99 suggested below but have not tried it yet, but it appears to be readily available in my area. This will be a plus if I like it. We will try it out next week.

                          Tried Bonny Doon Vin Gris de Cigare at $10.99. Made from a mix of 7 grapes including 27% Syrah and 18% Grenache. Inexpensive and readily available. This was a crowd pleaser and a nice dry (as opposed to sweet) wine.

                          Tried Boony Doon Big House Pink at $8.99. Made from a mix of Sangiovese, Barbera, Zinfandel, Carignane and Mouvedre. Also relatively readily available. Pleasent enough, not overly sweet, but nothing that I would make a special trip out of my way to buy.

                          Tried Red Car Wine Company Think Pink California Pinot Noir Rose` at $15.99. This wine proved to be the most popular so far with our friends / guests. Fruity but not cloyingly sweet. We would buy this again.

                          Also bought Miner Family Mendocino Rosato Sangiovese at $14.89. Have not opened this yet. Another possibility for next week.

                          So far we have been trying to find Roses` made from a variety of different grapres so that we can get a sense of what we may like.

                          Still looking for some of the other suggestions below, and this will make a nice summer project (at least as long as our friends and guests will let us continue experimenting on them. ) We also have to pace ourselves by rotating in the ocassional Rose in amongst the usual red and white offerings.

                          I will pick up the ESJ Bone Jolly Rose that Zin1953 recommends, as we have enjoyed several of the ESJ reds (the Rock and Gravel and a couple of the Syrahs) and the Shell and Bones White. I would expect something we might like as a result.

                          Also looking out for the 1+1=3 if I can find it here in SOCAL. So far I have only shopped my local Bevmo and one specialty retailer that is fairly CA-centric. When I am out next weekend, I will try to find a place with more imported selections.

                          Once again thanks for the suggestions. I will report back if I find any noteworthy wines to share with the group.

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                          1. re: scrappydog

                            glad you liked the Think Pink PN rose--I tried their syrah rose and it was great, spicy, but so alcoholic (14.5%), I thought too much for a summer quaffer (maybe not if you like to quaff strong martinis...)

                            1. re: kenito799

                              my favorite domestic rose are kosta browne and v. sattui gamy rouge

                              1. re: rickym13

                                That was my same complaint about the 2005 Kosta Brown -- waaaaayyyyyyy tooooooo much alcohol for my personal taste.

                                Glad, Rickym13, that you liked it.

                                1. re: zin1953

                                  I have not tried the Kosta Browne, but generally, I would usually prefer something around 13.5% ABV. We are located in southern CA and the local product often is weighted to the high end (14.5% ABV may be below average for CA wines nowadays based on some of what I have seen in the red wines). At least with Rose, if nothing else, I guess I could serve it in a martini glass and pass it off as a low alcohol Cosmopoliton.

                                  I was guessing that I might find lower alcohol in Spanish Rose and some of the other imports, based on my experience in the Red arena. Notwithstanding, I liked the Think Pink PN Rose and thought it had enough fruit to carry the alcohol. I have had some high alcohol reds where I thought the wine would have been much better with less alcohol.

                                  We generally had easier access to French, Spanish and Italian imports when we lived on the east coast. Now we have easier access to lots of CA wine that never made it to the east coast. I am always happy to find some local product that works, if possible.

                                  Of course, I have only tasted a total of maybe 6 or 7 Roses, so it is too early to declare an absolute favorite, but at least I can begin to narrow down what we like. We also have not started any serious food pairing yet, so I would expect to find that, like red and white wine, there may be several good choices for Rose depending on the menu. Part of the fun is just tracking down and trying some of the many good recommendations.

                                  We are only beginning to test the waters with Rose, so the recommendations on this thread help us find some good starting points of reference. I will be sure to work a Tavel into the mix depending on what I can find locally. I will even pick up a Kosta Browne when I see it. My local retailer is out of the 05, and has not received the 06 yet. The Fiddlehead that EmJayBe recommended sounds pretty interesting also, as do the the Oz suggestions from Wickmans.(Although they may be a challenge to find locally.)

                                  1. re: zin1953

                                    FWIW, the '06 KB Rose is marked 14.2% alcohol. So it is probably pushing 15. Anyway, I didn't detect any heat when I had it in February and, as I said above, it is my favorite domestic rose. Can you imagine the alcohol level if Aubert ever tried to make a rose! ;-)

                                    1. re: whiner

                                      This is NOT criticism, merely comment.

                                      The 2005 KB Rosé was similarly high in alcohol, and I found it be a very sound, well-made wine. That is, without flaws. But -- for me -- the wine is too heavy-bodied, too "thick" on the palate, and too high is r.s. (to mask the heat), that I found it difficult to finish a glass. Some people I know love it; others did not -- it's *that* kind of wine. ;^)

                                      Even a wine like the Mordorée Tavel or some of the Aussie Rosés can be 13.5% in alcohol, and -- as long as it is balanced and has enough acidity to be crisp and clean, if not refreshing -- it can be delightful.

                                      1. re: whiner

                                        My local retailer finally got the 2006 KB in stock last week. Tried a bottle and loved it. Picked up half a case for the summer. Our friends are going to like this one. Agree that it carries the 14.2 % ABV with no discernable heat.

                                        Also picked up the Copolla Sofia. Another good choice at about half the price of the KB.

                                        1. re: scrappydog

                                          Impressive that your retailer was able to get KB! Do I dare ask the price? It was $16ish off the mailer, maybe $18, I imagine it is $27 at a fair retail outlet? I've had it a few times now, I deffinitely think it is a little tightly wound and could use an hour or two of bottle air to show its best. Also, I think it is drinking best at around 60 degrees, a bit warmer than I would serve most rose. Glad you like it!

                                          1. re: whiner

                                            It is indeed pricey at $29 (this is an $8 increase over the price they placed on the 2005.) Nonetheless, I liked it enough to splurge. Agree on the serving temp. It opened up nice in the glass, and we left the bottle open on the bar at room temp, so the second glass was perfect. I'm thinking you could easily pair this up with a nice rare steak with no problems. Thanks for the recommendation.

                                            The Sofia I mentioned was around $15 if I recall it correctly. Nice wine for the price. 2005 Carneros PN, 12% ABV. (A nice find in the current environment of high alcohol wines). Same advice on serving temp applies. Fairly widely available. Another candidate for a juicy rare steak.

                                2. re: scrappydog

                                  Also, on the imported side of things, you may want to try the Tavel Rosé from Domaine de la Mordorée -- it's one of the finest rosés (IMHO) from the Rhone Valley. A bit pricey, Domaine de la Mordorée's Cotes-du-Rhone Rosé is only slightly less great but considerably less money! (I usually splurge on 1-2 bottles of the Tavel and a case of the CdR Rosé.)

                                3. Scrappy, I really like Pink Fiddle from Kathy Joseph's Fiddlehead Cellars. From the website...

                                  "...a deliciously dry, seductively supple, fantastically fruity and still slightly naughty Rosé of Pinot Noir! Perhaps Pinkie's more serious side of balance, structure, red plum and raspberry notes hails from the Oregon fruit, while the heady aromas, brilliant color, wild strawberry and spicy nuances bring that California attitude to the blend?!."

                                  I've ordered it online from FC (I think it's around $16/bottle) two years in a row now, and it's a great summer wine!

                                  1. I am not sure if you get Australian Rose there or if you prefer the sweeter to the dryer style but if you get a chance try a Noon Rose or a David Franz Rose. Both are in a dry style and ideally suited to food. You can have the Noon rose with a thick juicy T-Bone or a delicate seafood salad. Both of these are very well made wines and ideally suited to summer drinking. However, if you prefer the mouth puckering sweet Rose style then avoid these two wines :-)

                                    1. Try Routas, a Provencale Rose that is really delicious and has a distinctive blue and silver label. We served it at our wedding in 2004--were able to find it all over the Bay Area in the nicer wine shops (think it was about $10) and I have bought it at Whole Foods before. Not in over a year, though, but will be looking for it soon...here's a review I found

                                      1. Marsannay roses (all pinot) can be terrific

                                        1. Thank you for posting this question. I have recently started trying rose's too and have plans of having a rose' tasting in August. In my search I tried Toad Hollow's, Eye of the Toad and found it to be very enjoyable. I liked the light touch at the beginning and the fruit forward finish. I think I spent about $10 for it at BevMo.


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                                          1. re: free sample addict aka Tracy L

                                            Eye of the Toad is a favorite in my house...not to sweet, not too dry. I spent about $10 for it at Wine Legend in Cherry Hill.

                                            We also tried Sofia rose (from the Coppola winery and named for Sofia Coppola) at $13.95...it was actually bitter. Wouldn't buy it again.

                                            We've also gotten into rose champagne...the perfect accompaniment to sashimi. :)

                                          2. Bandol Domaine Tempier. Benchmark Rose. Really.

                                            1. I had the best Rose of my life last summer. Its from Montes Winery (Chile) and I believe its Syrah. They call it Cherub. We bought 2 bottles for a barbecue, and I literally drank 1 myself before realizing how easily it was going down. I sent my wife out for a case ofter that, and its all gone now.

                                              Drink this rose!

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                                              1. re: NY Wine Guy

                                                Hm-m, saw this one today at an AZ Costco, but passed, as I have not found anything from Montes that I liked (same for all but one Chilean wine). I now should go back and pick up a couple of bottles on your rec. I love a good Rosé, but usually keep a handful of Tavels and a very few domestic ones. Thanks for the rec.


                                                1. re: Bill Hunt

                                                  with such great (and inexpensive) roses from spain, france, italy I generally avoid domestic roses. i've had some nice ones but at 2 - 3 times the price of foreign bottles. it irritates the heck out out of me that the domestic ones are overpriced as I wouldn't mind supporint their efforts.

                                              2. My go-to Rose in the summer is the Marques de Caceres Rose Rioja. It's dry, acidic, and fruity. It's cheap ($8 or $9) and marvelously refreshing.

                                                1. Ferrari Carano make a nice Rose. Pretty bottle too. I noticed that it was on sale last time I was in Sonoma for barely $10 a bottle. What a steal. I wish I would have bought a case. Really smooth and not too sweet.

                                                  1. I discovered roses last year and am really looking forward to them again this year. My only experience has been with four roses: buttonwood's 05 (loved it); curtis' 05 (also loved); a french one from 05 i bought late in the summer and thta was way too thin for my mouth. i think given the dust on the bottle that it hadn't been propoerly stored and was probably spoiled/ old.
                                                    then last week i bought a couple bottles of goats do roam 06 (i'm a sucker for puns, so i had to taste it) and it was acceptable, but not something i'd buy again. a little flat - not dry or sweet.
                                                    i'm in southern cali too so i look for cali wines (contrary to ibstat's post, most cali wines are less than the european counterparts where i shop, so i stick with those)

                                                    anyone with any experience with any of these wines care to help point another rose traveller?

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                                                    1. re: mr mouther

                                                      not sure where you shop but I've found far more darn good and inexpensive foreign than domestic roses. one needn't buy Tavel (and the like) to get a good foreign rose. have you been to wine exchange as they usually stock a very good selection of roses.

                                                      1. re: ibstatguy

                                                        i usually shop at bevmo in pasadena and silver lake wine shop; occassionally trader joe's.
                                                        i don't have a car so wine exchange in orange is unfirtunately not on my path of likely destinations.
                                                        the place i got the french rose was from gerlach's in pasadena.
                                                        i will look for your rec.s!

                                                      2. re: mr mouther

                                                        I was at Woodland Hills Wine Company 3 weeks ago, and they were just getting their 2006 Roses in stock. (One arrived while I was shopping.) Only imports and no domestics for Rose at WHWC. Most priced between $10 and $15. Wades Wines in Westlake Village has a good selection of domestic Rose (mostly CA) at reasonable prices (generally $10 to $15.). Both stores have knowledgable and extremely helpful staffs.

                                                        1. re: mr mouther

                                                          While I am a big fan of many Tavels, I have really enjoyed the Beckman Grenache Rosé - Central Coast (I think that it's Santa Barbara sub). I have not had the recent release, but we even get it in AZ, so it should be available in S. CA.


                                                        2. Although it's gotten more "modish" and expensive, I still like provencal rose from Domaines Ott. I also like Domaine Tempier Bandol.

                                                          1. 06 Cantalupo Il Mimo is great again this year (made from Nebbiolo) $13

                                                            not as thrilled with the J-M Raffault Chinon Rosé this year.

                                                            super fun pink sparkler, imported by Dressner:
                                                            NV Renardat-Fache Vin du Bugey-Cerdon Méthode Ancestrale, from Savoie, made from Gamay and Poulsard, crisp and tangy but a kaleidoscope of fruity flavors (strawberry, cherry, apple, pear) and a touch of sweetness, $15.

                                                            1. I had my first introduction to Rose just last week. I bought a bottle of Chateau Calissanne -- a blend of Grenache, Cabernet Sauvignon, and Syrah. For $12 it was a pleasant surprise. When we went back for more, we were given a freebie bottle to compare -- a $13 bottle of Corte Gardoni Rose Bardolino Chiaretto -- a blend of Rondinella, Corvina and Molinara from the Lake Garda wine district. This lovely Italian is sure to become one of my summer favorites. These are both from Moore Brothers in Wilmington, DE.

                                                              1. I was in Santa Barbara a few weeks ago and had my first Rose at Rusack Winery. It was quite dry and wonderful. I was one of those people who thought all roses were sweet. I don't like sweet wines but fell in love with this. I'm going to look into some of these recs as well. Unfortunately I can't seem to get the Rusack here in VA. Definitely recommend it if you're in or around SB. Thanks.

                                                                1. My favorites are Domaine Tempier and Chateau Simone.

                                                                  I had a stunning one at a Slovenian tasting the other day: Guerila 2005, made from 60% cabernet sauvigon and 40% merlot.


                                                                  A couple of other nice ones I've had recently were a German pinot noir and an Italian lagrein from this list:


                                                                  Another wine list with a great rose section:


                                                                  1. Bergerie l'Hortus and Ott Les Domaniers

                                                                    1. My pink find this summer has been the "Cuvée Fiumeseccu" from Domaine d'Alzipratu in Corsica's Corse Calvi appellation. 70% Sciaccarellu (a rare native Corsican variety "producing deep-flavoured if not necessarily deep-coloured reds and fine rosés that can smell of the island's herby scrubland" -The Oxford Companion to Wine) and 30% Niellucciu (better known as Sangiovese). Here's a short tasting note from the other night: "What an enjoyable wine -- just perfect in its way. Supple/fluid, fruit kept in check, an enlivening tingle, a mineral underlay, whiffs of herbs and an intriguing bitter edge to the savoury finish. Am following the importer's advice and making a salade niçoise (a real one, with fresh fava beans) for dinner and am sure it will pair gorgeously -- have been nibbling on the olives and it certainly handles them with aplomb."

                                                                      1. Cameron Hughes Lot 37 - Rose from the Campo de Borja region of Spain. 100% garnacha (grenache), this was one excellent wine. Lots of natural fruit: strawberries, cherries and raspberries; dry, no artificial sweetness character. And it's only $7.99 at the California Costcos that stock it, or $10.00 direct from the Cameron Hughes website. I was really impressed by this wine. You can read my more detailed review at http://onewineperweek.blogspot.com/20... (sorry for the long link but that's blogger for you). I am not affiliated with Cameron Hughes in any way; I just thought this was an excellent rose especially for the price.

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                                                                        1. re: monkuboy

                                                                          Interesting, first I've heard of him selling non-California wine.

                                                                          1. re: Robert Lauriston

                                                                            Cameron Hughes is selling Lots 38 and 42 via the website only, both of them shiraz from Austrailia. Of course it is self-promotion but according to his tasting notes, these are really impressive. I ordered some for fall delivery.

                                                                            1. re: monkuboy

                                                                              Australian syrah is less surprising given his usual California fruit-bomb style. The lot 37 sounds like something I might like.

                                                                              1. re: Robert Lauriston

                                                                                If you check out the reviews on Cellar Tracker, that will give you a pretty decent idea of what the wine is like. From the first smell/sip, I was thinking THIS is what I was looking for - it just tasted "right" - I don't know how to explain it except I wouldn't change a thing in this wine.

                                                                                1. re: monkuboy

                                                                                  38 is 15% alcohol and the notes say "jammy and rich." Does not sound like my style at all.

                                                                                  1. re: Robert Lauriston

                                                                                    Definitely does not sound like a light, summer drinking rose.

                                                                                    1. re: woojink

                                                                                      No, this is a tangential discussion of Cameron Hughes in general.

                                                                                      1. re: woojink

                                                                                        Lot 38 (described by Robert Lauriston) is not a rose, it's a shiraz. Lot 37 is what we were originally discussing, and that's a rose.

                                                                                        1. re: monkuboy

                                                                                          Provenza Chiaretto Rosato. $12.99 a bottle. Oh... my... god. I think I need to pour myself a glass RIGHT NOW.

                                                                                          1. re: katiepie

                                                                                            Turkey Flat Rose is really excellent. About $17.

                                                                          2. I just had the pleasure of tasting more than 50 roses and thought I'd share my favorites with you... happy sipping!

                                                                            2006 Domaine Maby La Forcadière Tavel AC, France - Provence: Lovely aromas of strawberries. Served chilled. Pair with: trout, bass. XD 750 mL $16.95 Score: 89/100. Favorite Rosé

                                                                            2006 Chateau D'aqueria Tavel Rosé AC, France - Rhône: A gorgeous wine for a dry summer day. Aromas of raspberry and maraschino cherry. Pair with: barbecued salmon, chicken caesar salad, pork roast. XD 750 mL $19.95 Score: 90/100. Favorite Rosé

                                                                            2006 Domaines Perrin Réserve Rosé AC Côtes-Du-Rhône, France - Rhône: Deep aromas of raspberry. Pair with: cucumber sandwiches, salmon. XD 750 mL $14.95 Score: 88/100.

                                                                            2006 Domaine Des Carteresses Tavel Rosé AC, France - Rhône: Robust with loads of raspberries aromas. Pair with: herbed chicken, grilled eggplant, zucchini and red peppers. XD 750 mL $15.95 Score: 91/100. Favorite Rosé

                                                                            2006 Perrin & Fils Tavel Rose Rhone, France: I love this wine! Why don't I drink more of it? Pair with: grilled chicken, sea-food salad, bouillabaisse, pork tenderloin. XD 750 mL $19.95 Score: 92/100.

                                                                            2006 Selaks Premium Selection Merlot Rosé New Zealand, New Zealand: A lovely, robust and complex rosé. XD 750 mL $17.95 Score: 90/100.

                                                                            2006 Mulderbosch Cabernet Sauvignon Rosé WO Stellenbosch, South Africa: pleasant and full of berry aromas. Pair with: beef teriyaki, lamb curry. XD 750 mL $12.95 Score: 86/100.

                                                                            Natalie MacLean

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                                                                            1. Some reasonably priced roses I've enjoyed:

                                                                              Château Roqueforte. Côtes de Provence, France. -“Corail”
                                                                              Jean-Maurice Raffault. Chinon, France
                                                                              SolaRosa. Sonoma County, CA. -“California Rosé”