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FAL Mar 20, 2007 05:01 PM

Coke said they will use real sugar instead of corn syrup for Passover. This is the real coke .So why does Coca Cola sell and tell us it is the Original formula and use corn syrup as a sweetner instead of sugar. (Real Original Formula)The NY Post also said that they stop using real sugar in the 1980's. The NY Post also said that is a a less sweeter taste with sugar. I don't know about the rest of the CH but you bet i will get my hand on a few cans.

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  1. JK Grence the Cosmic Jester RE: FAL Mar 21, 2007 06:27 AM

    Those of us living in the Southwest are lucky enough to often get our hands on the real deal, Coke from Mexico, made with sugar. Sadly, the Coke bottlers down there are starting to switch to HFCS too; there's a distinct difference between the two, and the stuff from Mexico is WAY better.

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      ChowFun_derek RE: JK Grence the Cosmic Jester Mar 23, 2007 09:16 AM

      Yes, we get Mexican Coke here in San Francisco as well...but a warning to those who buy it with their luncheon sandwich.....it does NOT have a screw off top!!!
      So, remember to have them open it where you bought it..or find your old 'church key'
      I prefer this coke..it is sort of 'dryer' and tangier!

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        lulubelle RE: ChowFun_derek Apr 2, 2007 12:46 PM

        You can get Mexican Coke in the Mexican grocery stores in the Pilsen neighborhood in Chicago. I would guess that you can find it pretty much everywhere that has a large Mexican population. I only drink real Coke (vs diet) once every few months or so, but I greatly prefer the real sugar formula.

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      Vint1955 RE: FAL Mar 21, 2007 07:13 AM

      The reason Coke stopped using sugar in the US is that the government has a floor price on sugar to "protect" the US sugar industry from foreign competition. It became cheaper for Coke, the all American soft drink, to use corn syrup rather than pay artifically inflated sugar prices. A benefit for Coke is that, since corn syrup is cheaper than sugar, they make more profit and 99% of the American public can't tell the difference.As always it all comes down to money.

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        Neely_Ohara RE: Vint1955 Mar 31, 2007 07:35 AM

        That's really interesting Vint -- I never knew that. So is the protectionist policy toward sugar part of the overall reason for the widespread ascent of HFCS? That would make sense... WOW!

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          jackrugby RE: Vint1955 Apr 3, 2007 05:25 AM

          I've heard the explanation about protecting the US sugar industry before, but I believe the big winner is the US corn producers. The amount of corn grown in this country is far larger than the few sugar cane growers. I imagine they make a lot of money growing corn that is processed into HFCS.

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            ricepad RE: jackrugby Apr 3, 2007 08:41 AM

            The corn industry (and therefore the corn lobby) in the US is absolutely huge. Read "The Omnivore's Dilemma".

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          ricepad RE: FAL Mar 21, 2007 07:39 AM

          I have to cop to being a little paranoid sometimes, but I think the whole "New Coke/Old Coke/Classic Coke" thing way back in the 80s (?) was really a misdirection ruse to allow Coca Cola to switch from sugar to HFCS.

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            FAL RE: ricepad Mar 21, 2007 01:26 PM

            I agree with you on that.

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            KTinNYC RE: FAL Mar 21, 2007 09:33 AM

            This happens every Passover. The bottles have a yellow cap.

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              Hue RE: KTinNYC Mar 21, 2007 01:04 PM

              Hate to say it but I picked up some Passover Coke and I gotta tell ya I prefer the Coke with HFCS, not sure if my taste buds have aged too much(I grew up on 6.5 oz ikes in the traditional bottle) but I was disappointed with the sugar sweetened Coke...

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              mclaugh RE: FAL Mar 21, 2007 05:04 PM

              Um ... I hate to break it to you, but Coca Cola has made kosher Coke for Passover evey year since the switch to HCFS in the mid-80s.

              Also, there's ZERO chance of Coke going back to the original formula, because the ORIGINAL formula for Coca Cola contained five ounces of coca leaf per gallon of syrup, yielding an estimated nine milligrams of cocaine per glass. At that dosage, there's no way in hell the FDA would allow Coke to be sold over the counter.

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                Vint1955 RE: mclaugh Mar 23, 2007 03:44 PM

                Bet it sure would taste good! :-))

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                  FAL RE: mclaugh Mar 23, 2007 04:01 PM

                  Yes that is is before my time. The real Coke.

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                    Danimal n Hustler RE: FAL Mar 28, 2007 02:02 AM

                    Ok, so last night was the first time hearing about this buzz so I had to try it today. In between break at work I went to the local Ralph's and lo and behold 4 bottles of the yellow cap with the UOP sign. I was enthused and downright anxious- I bought all four bottles (they even had a buy 3 get 1 free).

                    I got home, made me a bologna sandwich (like as a child) and took a sip of what I expected to be my childhood. WHAM! It was that coke taste I really missed and adored as a child. Somewhere along my time, I realized coke didn't have that kick at the end anymore and until the other day didn't realize why. It was the sucrose replaced with fructose. It really does taste that much better and I don't think I can go back to drinking fructose coke again.

                    So I gave 1 bottle to my boss at work, 1 to my GF Danimal, 1 in the fridge, and 1 in the garage for later. I think I will stock up just in case I have cravings until next Passover.

                    All I can say is, nostalgia-overload!

                    -Hustler

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                    GVDub RE: mclaugh Mar 28, 2007 02:05 PM

                    Not quite. Coca Cola has been 100% coca free since 1929, and even before that, by 1902, had reduced the levels to less than 1/400 grain per ounce of syrup or .06 oz./25 million gallons of syrup.

                    cite: http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/cocain...

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                      hot tamale RE: GVDub Mar 30, 2007 07:12 PM

                      One would think that with all the competition in the soft drink market these days, Coke would do all it could to retain loyal customers by keeping flavor at its best. It seems that Coke drinkers prefer real sugar and would pay for it therefore offsetting the cost of manufacturing with the real thing. I loved the taste of old Coca Cola and stopped drinking it when they started the whole "new" coke vs Classic Coke in the 1970s. it just never tasted right after that.

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                        Neely_Ohara RE: hot tamale Mar 31, 2007 07:38 AM

                        Hmmmm..I realize that people of all ages drink Coke, but I wonder whether the key demographic is younger folks who grew up on HFCS, and have absolutely ZERO idea that Coke ever tasted different....In other words, there's no nostalgia among teens and 20-somethings for Coke as it tasted in the "old days"

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                    embee RE: FAL Mar 30, 2007 07:29 PM

                    I just picked up a bottle of Passover Coke in Toronto. The ingredient list includes sugar and glucose/fructose. It isn't "real" (decocainized) Coke. That's when I realized the Passover issue isn't fructose, it is corn. The fructose in Canadian Passover Coke (a white cap with a hechsher)) obviously comes from a different source than the highly subsidized HFCS in the US. I haven't tasted it yet, but I'm not getting prematurely excited about this.

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                      KTinNYC RE: embee Apr 2, 2007 11:00 AM

                      My bottle of Kosher Coke doesn't list glucose or fructose.

                      Ingredients: Carbonated Water, Sucrose, Caramel Color, Phosphoric Acid, Natural Flavors, Caffeine,

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                        Danimal n Hustler RE: KTinNYC Apr 2, 2007 11:26 AM

                        So last night we decided to have a blind test to see which one they thought were the coke with sucrose (old formula) and the one with HFCS (new formula). The participants consisted of the Danimal and her parents and lo and behold everyone said that the one with sucrose was the old formula and the new one tasted like ass. Then I did the test on myself and I knew instantly which was which. At least at our household, the old formula wins!

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                          embee RE: KTinNYC Apr 2, 2007 11:50 AM

                          The Canadian formula is obviously different from what you are getting. My hunch is that in the absence of the US government subsidy for HFCS, the fructose Coke is using in Canada doesn't come from corn and is kosher for Passover.

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                        butterfly RE: FAL Mar 30, 2007 07:36 PM

                        European coke is made from sugar... But I think there are more differences to the formula than just that.. the coke here is less sweet and the carbonation seems to dissipate quicker (it also comes in tiny little bottles ). I need to get a can and post the ingredients--it seems like there aren't as many.

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                          shindiganna RE: butterfly Mar 31, 2007 07:26 AM

                          My husband is a kosher Coke junky. And he doesn't even like soda as a general rule. Every year he scours the neighborhood scarfing up every yellow cap he could find. We still have 2 bottles from last year left....

                          There must be an increase in the production run, 'cause this year it's everywhere....

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                            jim1126 RE: shindiganna Apr 3, 2007 06:47 AM

                            Not in Houston - I've yet to find any this year.

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                          chazzer RE: FAL Apr 2, 2007 01:31 PM

                          The HFCS is not the only issue when it comes to Coke being Kosher for Passover. Much of the Gas used for carbonation is collected from fermenting grains a definate no no for Passover (even more of a no no then the corn). Kosher for Passover Coke would require gas from a more passover frendly source then the one listed.

                          1. MC Slim JB RE: FAL Apr 3, 2007 05:57 AM

                            Per Coca-Cola, its bottlers have the option of using high fructose corn syrup (HFCS), beet sugar or cane sugar, depending on availability and cost. A Kosher formulation could theoretically be done with beet sugar, which like cane sugar yields sucrose.

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                              kai27 RE: MC Slim JB Apr 3, 2007 03:58 PM

                              I've gottta find some of that Coke-praise the lord on that one

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