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  <id>382942</id>
  <title>"Rare" ethnic restaurants?</title>
  <published_at>Mon Mar 19 23:41:51 -0700 2007</published_at>
  <post_count>35</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>18</id>
    <name>Manhattan</name>
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      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>2402664</id>
        <content>I'm from NYC, but now in Chicago.  Lately, have taken up a semihobby of trying as many different nationalities of ethnic restaurants as I can find.  It's fun to explore and compare/contrast.

I'm coming home for a week or two, and know there's no place better than NYC to add to my "list".  Any suggestions for places a bit different than Chinese or Mexican?

The following are those I HAVE tried, or seen in Chicago, so NOT looking for in NYC (in addition to the "obvious", like Spanish, Thai, etc):

Americas: Costa Rican, Guatemalan, Ecuadorean, Peruvian, Argentinean, Brazilian

Africa: Moroccan, Ethiopian, Nigerian/Ghanaian

Europe: Hungarian, Romanian, Swedish, Cypriot, Czech/Bohemian, Portuguese, Polish

Former Soviet: Russian, Armenian, Lithuanian, Uzbek, Ukrainian

Asian/Middle Eastern: Afghan, Burmese, Filipino, Lebanese, Malaysian, Israeli, Turkish, Persian, Nepali, Taiwanese, Vietnamese, Korean

So, any recommendations of Algerian or Laotian or Martian cuisine?

Thanks in advance!</content>
        <published_at>Mon Mar 19 23:41:51 -0700 2007</published_at>
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        <user>
          <id>84334</id>
          <name>Chartrand</name>
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      </post>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2402667</id>
      <content>go to menupages.com and there is a handy list all set for you!!

in NYC try the Dominican food. </content>
      <published_at>Mon Mar 19 23:44:38 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2402664</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>64183</id>
        <name>johleer</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2403262</id>
      <content>Taim Tov on 47th Street is authentic "Former Soviet."  Very good pilaf dishes especially.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Mar 20 07:54:59 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2402664</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>14446</id>
        <name>NAtiveNewYorker</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3709188</id>
      <content>i second taim tov, get their bread...they make their own and its really great (get the entire loaf as it tastes fresher)

the plov and kebabs are a must as well</content>
      <published_at>Wed May 21 13:19:56 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>2403262</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>12298</id>
        <name>Lau</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2403752</id>
      <content>Only one place in the city for Martian food, but I wouldn't recommend it.

</content>
      <published_at>Tue Mar 20 09:56:05 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2402664</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>16028</id>
        <name>seal</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2403883</id>
      <content>Elvie's Turo Turo is great Philipino food. It's in the east village. There's also Crystals, but I haven't been to it.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Mar 20 10:28:05 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2402664</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>84192</id>
        <name>mms</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2447930</id>
      <content>elvie's is very casual ("turo" means point so the name of the restauran is point-point in reference to the buffet), krystal's is a decent sitdown restaurant in the east village, but better filpino food is to be had in woodside (Ihawan stands out). With that said, Grill 21 is quite good actually, if you're in manhattan.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Apr 03 17:41:37 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2403883</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>12656</id>
        <name>bigjeff</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>3241924</id>
      <content>just wondering if you've tried cendrillon in soho, and how that compares?</content>
      <published_at>Fri Dec 28 00:59:23 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2447930</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>145096</id>
        <name>sugartoof</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2403895</id>
      <content>Also - if you have the money, Wallse is incredible Austrian good. It's in the West Village. I've been doing an A-Z food tour of NYC (of ethnic cuisines) and a good place to start making your list is by checking the Village Voice or NYTimes list of available cuisines.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Mar 20 10:31:16 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2402664</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>84192</id>
        <name>mms</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2404163</id>
      <content>* australian: public (elizabeth at spring)... kangaroo is on the menu, or wombat in brooklyn

* indian is obvious.  tho outside the more common punjabi and south indian, you can try gujarati (vatan) and indian-chinese (chinese mirch).

* sri lankan: sigiri

* venezualen: caracas arepas house...

* egyptian, cambodian, basque, : a bunch of places around town... if it's different enough for ya.

* and of course other rare find regional cuisine from countries that always have some representation.... e.g. china and japan, can be found here.
</content>
      <published_at>Tue Mar 20 11:28:38 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2402664</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13695</id>
        <name>thievery</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3242170</id>
      <content>Wombat in BK is not that good. I have been there a couple of times and each time something I try tastes like it was cooked in a mircrowave. Service is also not that attentive.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Dec 28 06:44:48 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2404163</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>123423</id>
        <name>bosun</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2404488</id>
      <content>You should repost this on the Outer Boroughs board.
Also, pick up a copy of Robert Sietsema's "Best Ethnic Eating in New York City".
Also check out the searchable eats section on the village voice:
http://www.villagevoice.com/nycguide/index.php?sid=1

I'm pretty sure you can get Laotian food on Argyle St in Chicago.

Here are a few NYC restaurants from my list. I haven't been to all of them, so I can't necessarily recommend them all. And check first to make sure they're still open. 

Kelso Dining (Panamanian) 
Izalco (Salvadoran) 
La Esquina Criolla (Uruguayan) 
Tierras Colombianas (Colombian) 
The Arepa Lady (Venezuelan street food) 
Tbilisi (Georgian) 
Pirosmani (Georgian) 
Cafe Kashkar (Uyghur) 
Arzu (Uyghur) 
Cevabdzinica Sarajevo (Bosnian) 
Djerdan (Bosnian) 
Bulgara (Bulgarian) 
Madina (South African) 
E &amp; R (Hatian) 
Yemen Cafe (Yemeni) 
Spicy Mina (Bangladeshi) 
Sokobolie (Guinean/Senagalese) 
A &amp; A Bake and Doubles (Trinidadian) 
</content>
      <published_at>Tue Mar 20 12:51:41 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2402664</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13402</id>
        <name>Joe MacBu</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2409727</id>
      <content>"I'm pretty sure you can get Laotian food on Argyle St in Chicago."

Nope.  The closest Laotian resto to Chicago is all the way up in Madison, WI.  Trust me, I've searched!  </content>
      <published_at>Wed Mar 21 22:14:57 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2404488</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10856</id>
        <name>sundevilpeg</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>2418293</id>
      <content>Is Nhu Hoa on Argyle not around anymore?</content>
      <published_at>Sat Mar 24 21:24:47 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2409727</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13402</id>
        <name>Joe MacBu</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2444585</id>
      <content>Definately go to cafe Kashkar, it is very fun, good food and great prices.  It is not elegant.
Check out this blog post, gives you a good idea:  http://www.roboppy.net/food/2006/05/chineseish_food_cafe_kashkar_a.html</content>
      <published_at>Mon Apr 02 18:38:46 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2404488</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>61669</id>
        <name>Quine</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3240555</id>
      <content>I've been to Tbilisi (in Brooklyn) and can heartily recommend it. The Georgian food is great and it's quite the scene. </content>
      <published_at>Thu Dec 27 12:58:11 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2404488</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>126235</id>
        <name>NYCkaren</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2404906</id>
      <content>Latin American that I didn't see on your list: Puerto Rican, Domincan, Cuban, (all over, sort of), Bolivian (Queens), Honduran (Brooklyn and Bronx)

Asian: Indonesian (Queens) Sri Lankan (Staten Island and East Village)

African: Senegalese. 116th St. Manhattan

There was an article in Sunday's Times on African food and culture in NYC:
http://travel.nytimes.com/2007/03/18/travel/18weekend.1.html?ref=travel</content>
      <published_at>Tue Mar 20 14:42:46 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2402664</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11511</id>
        <name>Krista G</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2404952</id>
      <content>While I know Chinese isn't on your list there are some really different Chinese regional cuisines (e.g., Uighur) out in Flushing, so this would be another reason to check the Outer Boroughs board.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Mar 20 14:51:51 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2402664</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10131</id>
        <name>Chandavkl</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2410088</id>
      <content>Nomad on 2nd Ave &amp; 5th is good generic Maghreb cuisine, but the owner is Algerian, the chef is Tunisian, and there are some Algerian and Tunisian style dishes on the menu, like an Algerian salad and the Tunisian "brik" appetizer along with the standard couscous and tagines. 

If you get out of Manhattan, hit Tony &amp; Tina's on 189th and Arthur Ave in the Bronx for great Albanian bourek. </content>
      <published_at>Thu Mar 22 05:51:38 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2402664</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>12622</id>
        <name>Striver</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2440964</id>
      <content>I usually just look at these posts and for the past couple of years since the birth of this chowhound-now-chow site.  However I don't tend to reply, didn't even officially register until last week actually, but I do disagree with some opinions that may be taken as facts, so here I go...

Anyhow, short cutting to your topic..

First off, AREPA is a colombian not venezuelan food, this was found out after much research in both countries.  A colombian staple since the days of the Gran Colombia (then included Ecuador, Colombia, Panama and Venezuela).

And now for your feature reply..

If you're looking for a carribean, central or south american latin treat there's just about any bakery, cafe or restaurant when you take the 7 train to Queens and get off at 82nd Street - Jackson Heights station, personally I would walk east or north of this station for better culinary experiences of the local cultures, but really you could walk in any direction and find something muy rico!!!  Specifically I would recommend LA NUEVA BAKERY or LA NUEVA CAFE on 37th Ave around 84/85th Street (one block north of Roosevelt Ave), also RICO PAN on Woodside Ave and 59th Street off the 61st Street station in neighbouring Irish-laden Woodside.

As for a trendy experience of traditional Venezuelan food I would recommend the great EL COCOTERO on 18th Street between 7th and 8th Aves in Chelsea, Manhattan.

As for a trendy experience of traditional Colombian food I would recommend the great BOGOTA LATIN BISTRO on 5th Avenue bewteen St. John's and Lincoln Places in Park Slope, Brooklyn.

Note that although both restauarants and countries like to label their respective cuisines as their own, in actuality they are very similar to each other.

As for the CARACAS AREPA BAR, it's a nice take on the arepa but quite expensive for the small delicious serving that you get, and fits in well as most places that are located in the now too-trendy-but-still-a-dump East Village.

And as for THE AREPA LADY, she is actually from the region of Antioquia (where the eternally bloomful city of Medellin is located) in Colombia or so she says.

While on the 7 train line..

Irish pub fare anywhere east of the 61st Street station on either Roosevelt or Woodside Aves. in Woodside,

Pakistani, Bangladeshi and North Indian immediately north of Roosevelt Ave off the 74th Street station.

Asian galore cuisine in any direction off of last stop Main Street in Flushing.

Good luck and welcome back!</content>
      <published_at>Sun Apr 01 15:37:24 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2402664</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>87754</id>
        <name>alexenrique</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2442557</id>
      <content>What about Caribbean?  Jamaican, Trinidadian, Haitian?  Fatman's for Jamaican, a Trinidadian roti shop in Harlem (forgot name) for some buss up shut, Le Soilel or Krik Krack for Haitian. There's Day-O for combo Jamaican/Southern fusion.  Better choices for Caribbean can be found outside Manhattan though.
For example, I've been wanting to head out to Queens for Belizean at Village Pot, many other options ex-Manhattan.
</content>
      <published_at>Mon Apr 02 08:52:11 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2440964</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13427</id>
        <name>Ora</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2448102</id>
      <content>Thanks for the arepa lady correction. Memory lapse on my part.
Since the OP is in Chicago, I would advise against the Indian subcontinent restaurants in Jackson Heights. They're significantly better in Chicago.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Apr 03 18:44:41 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2440964</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13402</id>
        <name>Joe MacBu</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3240548</id>
      <content>I second El Cocotero!</content>
      <published_at>Thu Dec 27 12:54:11 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2440964</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>152700</id>
        <name>Renguin</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3406122</id>
      <content>Colombian arepas and Venezuelan arepas are totally different and claiming that they originated in one specific country is absurd. It's a regional staple that varies from place to place......like falafel or sausages.....

</content>
      <published_at>Sun Feb 17 08:04:49 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>2440964</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>126281</id>
        <name>eatingraoul</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2444558</id>
      <content>Himalayan Yak
72-20 Roosevelt Ave
Jackson Heights, NY 11372
Phone: (718) 779-1119

I went there when it was the Tibetan Yak and enjoyed it.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Apr 02 18:28:38 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2402664</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>20568</id>
        <name>nixienox</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2448088</id>
      <content>The Nepali food's better at Mt Everest in Evanston (a Chicago suburb), so I would personally skip this place (though the fare is decent). </content>
      <published_at>Tue Apr 03 18:39:28 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2444558</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13402</id>
        <name>Joe MacBu</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3240900</id>
      <content>How about Kurdish? It's not in NYC... It's in Saint Paul, MN., and at the time I ate there it was the only Kurdish resto in the US.  Lots of meat, rice, preserved lemon, and a very detailed family history printed in the menu.  </content>
      <published_at>Thu Dec 27 14:56:06 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2402664</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>132418</id>
        <name>hungrycomposer</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3241540</id>
      <content>If you want to stay in Manhattan, you can try:

Tibetan - Cafe Himalaya in EV
Indonesian - Bali Nusa Indah, Sanur (indonesian + Malaysian), though there are better ones in Queens
Scandinavian - Aquavit (fine dining) and Aquavit Cafe
Australian - Sunburnt Cow, Bondi Road
New Zealand -  Nelson Blue
Cambodian - Kampuchea (a bit fusion)
Hawaiian - L&amp;L Barbacue (more like a fast food chain)
Austrian - Wallse (mentioned above), Blaue Gans</content>
      <published_at>Thu Dec 27 19:29:24 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2402664</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>54254</id>
        <name>kobetobiko</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3709174</id>
      <content>Kampuchea is definitely a bit trendy and a bit fusiony, but the only place I know for Khmer food since the much-loved Cambodian Cuisine closed in Fort Greene. Actually I think Kampuchea is better (I have lived in Cambodia). Try the Kampuchea sandwich, it is scrumptious and truly authentic (Khmer version of Vietnamese banh mi). And they have cool beer mugs.</content>
      <published_at>Wed May 21 13:16:30 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3241540</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>22273</id>
        <name>chowbeth</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3241731</id>
      <content>There are several Basque restaurants worth checking out. Oliva is good, as is Pintxos.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Dec 27 20:57:37 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2402664</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>116473</id>
        <name>logicchop2</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5000128</id>
      <content>Bumping this, as am going home again this weekend and know places open up in NYC weekly (and certainly since last year).

Any new "different" ethnic cuisine out there?  Since initially posting this thread, have had Algerian at Nomad, Sri Lankan at Sigiri, Venezuelan/arepas at Caracas Arepas, Uzbek/Bukharian at Taam Tov as well as Bulgarian and Indonesian in Queens, and Yemeni in Brooklyn.

Looking for some new ethnic dining adventures for my trip home!</content>
      <published_at>Wed Sep 02 15:06:42 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>2402664</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>84334</id>
        <name>Chartrand</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5000251</id>
      <content>I found this intriguing, although I've not yet been:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/02/dining/reviews/02brief-001.html?ref=dining</content>
      <published_at>Wed Sep 02 15:59:18 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5000128</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13722</id>
        <name>small h</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>5000386</id>
      <content>WOW!  That does look great!</content>
      <published_at>Wed Sep 02 16:52:02 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5000251</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>61669</id>
        <name>Quine</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5000611</id>
      <content>There will be a Garifuna food expo on Saturday but few details are available and the website mentions a Garifuna restaurant in Chicago. http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/649384
</content>
      <published_at>Wed Sep 02 18:31:55 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5000128</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>64008</id>
        <name>ow77</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5001212</id>
      <content>Liberian in Jamaica:
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/638239</content>
      <published_at>Thu Sep 03 00:59:34 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5000128</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13402</id>
        <name>Joe MacBu</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5046836</id>
      <content>For Pakistani food, try Kabab King in Queens.

http://kababking.com/index_2.html</content>
      <published_at>Mon Sep 21 13:23:53 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>2402664</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>1093353</id>
        <name>fm1963</name>
      </user>
    </post>
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