381712 Fri Mar 16 09:23:52 -0700 2007 23 27 General Chowhounding Topics 0 2392020 hi all last night i put an order in ( 4 min ) for PB2 peanut butter. I am on WW and heard that this powder form PB is very tasty for "what it is"...i guess they press all the fat out so its not bad for you. has anyone ever had this? ill report back as soon as i get it! Fri Mar 16 09:23:52 -0700 2007 11685 niccole 1 2395839 I'm very very curious about this product. I can see it being very good for peanut butter cookies, pie crust, things like that. I could also imagine making peanut butter cups with them. Look forward to hearing your opinions on it! Sat Mar 17 18:02:56 -0700 2007 2392020 63002 atomic 1 2397062 PLEASE keep us posted! I'm on WW myself, and always looking for great products. salemjan Sun Mar 18 10:29:12 -0700 2007 2392020 16884 salemjan 2 2398323 i will report back as soon as i get it! im very excited because i have basically sworn off PB the last 5 weeks since starting WW. i never, ever knew how high in fat PB actually was. Sun Mar 18 18:40:57 -0700 2007 2397062 11685 niccole 3 2398341 I was pretty horrified too when I discovered how high in fat it was -- and the 'reduced fat' versions are usually not much better. I do occasionally splurge on the Peter Pan Whipped (it's a little lower fat and the texture makes it seem as if you're getting more per serving) but the whole salmonella thing has made it hard to find around here lately (yes, I'm willing to risk death for the occasional pb&j sandwich). So I'm excited to hear how this stuff works too! Sun Mar 18 18:47:40 -0700 2007 2398323 64157 dietfoodie 3 2412830 I buy the natural kind and pour out all the oil from the top, leaving the peanut paste behind. It makes a big difference to the calorie content and I don't miss the oil at all. Thu Mar 22 19:47:52 -0700 2007 2398323 21341 hrhboo 1 2398416 Interesting product--the manufacturer's web site says that PB2 has the same mouthfeel as full-fat peanut butter. Two tablespoons has 54 calories and 2.8 grams of fat. I can't wait for your review! Sun Mar 18 19:21:10 -0700 2007 2392020 48876 mamaciita 1 2412167 I just got my four jars in the mail today. Tested it out and all I have to say is OMG! This stuff is amazing. It tastes just like the real thing. I mixed in a little splenda and a bit of hot chocolate mix....delicious. Thu Mar 22 15:12:38 -0700 2007 2392020 18011 Jacey 1 2412344 I bought a similar product called "Better than Peanut Butter" - which isn't. It's okay, but waaaaay too sweet and it has a little aftertaste. I'm hoping PB2 is better... Thu Mar 22 16:18:14 -0700 2007 2392020 10681 piccola 2 2412444 I've had both, and let me tell you, PB2 is ten times better. I think it tastes like the real thing. Better than Peanut Butter has an aftertaste, this doesn't. However, whenever something is so low calorie I almost think it's too good to be true (remember those banana crisps at TJs?). I really hope this is not the case. Thu Mar 22 16:58:08 -0700 2007 2412344 18011 Jacey 1 2413983 There's a little sleight-of-hand with the nutritional comparisons of PB2 and Peanut Butter. 12g of the PB2 has 55 calories, 2.84g fat, 3.75g carb, 4.37 protein. Then you mix it with a Tbsp (15g) of water to get your finished product. A 32 g serving of Peanut Butter is 190 calories, 16g fat, 6g carb, 8g protein. Comparing weight-to-weight (32g PB2) = 145 calories, 7.5g fat, 10g carb, 11.65g protein. So basically the powder has 1/2 the fat of real PB, 65% more carbs, and 50% more protein. But only 25% less calories. OK, lastly, what this really means is that you need 22 grams of "PB2" to equal one serving of peanut butter from a protein/carb nutrition factor, not the 12 grams stated on their web site. 100 calories. But you WOULD be saving 11g of fat in that serving. Fri Mar 23 09:20:55 -0700 2007 2392020 12193 JugglerDave 2 2415700 I'm slightly confused. Are you adding bulk with the water or is the nutritional information wrong? Math has never been my high point! Fri Mar 23 16:47:25 -0700 2007 2413983 18011 Jacey 3 2416699 From the website, it looks like for PB2 you start with 12g of powder, then add a tablespoon of water, to get 2 tablespoons of reconstituted peanut butter consistency stuff. I guess what I was saying is that their serving size of 12g has less of the "good" peanut butter nutrition (protein/carbs) and that a real equivalent is 22g of their PB2 powder to be the same as 32g of real peanut butter but with less fat. Sat Mar 24 06:56:46 -0700 2007 2415700 12193 JugglerDave 4 2418264 Math is my strong suit, and this doesn't make sense to me... PB2 you can use w/o reconstituting it... So if I mix it into yogurt, I get 55 extra cals. If I use two tablespoons and mix with water, I still get 55 calories. There's no reason why I would necessarily *use* 32 grams of PB2, then reconstitute it, and end up w/ way more than 32 grams, so on a volume comparison, the PB2 still wins out. Sat Mar 24 21:06:25 -0700 2007 2416699 15572 Emme 5 2418559 I'm not too much of a math person but I think I do understand what JugglerDave is saying. On a weight to weight comparison, the difference in fat and calorie content between regular peanut butter and PB2 is not as different as it might appear. Generally foods are portioned by weight (hence why different types of cereals have different volume serving sizes but often a similar weight serving size). So, while we generally think of how much peanut butter we eat in terms of volume (i.e. 2 tablespoons per serving) JugglerDave is just trying to point out the fact that 2 tablespoons of PB2 is a very different portion, weight-wise as well as macro-nutritionally, than 2 tablespoons of regular peanut butter. For some people this "fluffy" factor will be great because they'll eat the same amount of a calorically less dense food without even knowing it. And, for some people they'll have to eat more of the calorically less dense food to make up for the lack of volume, hence eating the same amount of fat and calories, just spread out in a larger amount. I believe JugglerDave is also trying to make the point that to get the amount of good stuff (protein, good fats, etc) that regular peanut butter has to offer, and to get it in the form of PB2, one must eat a lot more PB2 than the serving size indicated on the package. If your goal is weight-loss then this might not be a big deal. If your goal is to reap all of the benefits that a food such as peanut butter can offer to the body, then it is something to consider. At least I think that is part of what JugglerDave is trying to allude to...feel free to correct me if I am wrong. Thanks! Sun Mar 25 06:03:32 -0700 2007 2418264 15260 Laura D. 6 2418645 I think this is a good explanation, but. Isn't all the fat in regular, all-natural PB "good" fat? My assumption is that WW followers want to get *rid of* the fat - good or bad, it's all bad to them (it will of course be replaced by something: water, carbs and/or protein). I do happen to think natural PB is a healthy food in small quantities so I probably wouldn't buy this product myself, but I can see how it makes sense for PB lovers trying to follow a low-fat diet. On the other hand, if a consumer is trying to get healthy PB fat, then I assume they would stick with a full-fat natural PB. BTW my husband's doctor specifically recommended natural PB for his incipient cholesterol problem (he is not overweight). Sun Mar 25 07:04:38 -0700 2007 2418559 12120 julesrules 7 2418670 Never mind, I assumed "good stuff" included the healthy fat, which I guess I see as the distiniguishing nutrient of PB (protein and carbs being readily available elsewhere). Sun Mar 25 07:17:39 -0700 2007 2418645 12120 julesrules 6 2418649 Laura D that's exactly right! My bottom line that 1 "real" portion of PB2 is 22grams (plus water) from a nutritional point of view, has the same amount of protein/carbs as 32g of real peanut butter but with 11g less fat and about 90 fewer calories than real peanut butter. You can always do other things, like sprinkle it dry into yogurt, or make 2 TB of "PB2 butter with water", and it's great that there is a 55 calorie alternative. But you're getting less of the good stuff that way, portion wise. Sun Mar 25 07:06:51 -0700 2007 2418559 12193 JugglerDave 7 2418967 And I guess my point less eloquently said was that you aren't necessarily going to use them in the same weights... Kind of like comparing raw spinach by weight w/ tomatoes, if you ask me, since I won't consume them in the same weights... I understood the math, just didn't necessarily see that that analysis was the most apt for this circumstance... Yeah, hi my name is Emme, and I'm type A. Sun Mar 25 09:58:21 -0700 2007 2418649 15572 Emme 1 2422722 I just got mine in this weekend - I think it's DELICIOUS! I am a huge peanut butter fan, and I'll definitely still enjoy natural peanut butter from time to time, but this is great for a quick, guilt-free, low-calorie snack. It tastes really natural & peanut-y to me, though definitely not as "dense" as regular peanut butter - more airy or whipped. So far I've only tried it reconstituted & spread on an apple. Mon Mar 26 14:24:10 -0700 2007 2392020 86103 keritusa 1 2433595 Niccole, Now that you've had the stuff for a little while, would you say you made a good decision by ordering PB2 and that you'd both do it again and encourage others to do it? Thu Mar 29 16:18:18 -0700 2007 2392020 15260 Laura D. 2 2433851 Laura I am VERY happy i bought it. i ordered 8 jars and kept 2 for myself. ( the other 6 went to my WW ladies ) i am almost finished with the first jar. i have eaten it everyday for a week and i am highly satisfied!!! i have not experimented at all, only putting it on a WW english muffin. for someone who must watch their weight and cannot live w/o PB, i would definetely recommend PB2. Thu Mar 29 17:34:49 -0700 2007 2433595 11685 niccole 3 2433876 I think I might just have to suck it up and order some (it really isn't that expensive and I'm sure I could pawn off the jars on someone should I find I dislike it). It is astounding how much peanut butter I eat on my own. And, while I'm not on a diet persay, it's always nice to try to cut down on fat and calories when I am able to, so getting rid of some of the many PB fat grams and calories would be great! Thanks for providing your opinions about this product--always nice to hear from an actual consumer what they thought of something before taking the plunge and purchasing it for oneself. Thanks again and good luck with weight watchers. Thu Mar 29 17:44:37 -0700 2007 2433851 15260 Laura D. 4 2434030 I've had mine for a week now and have gone through 1 1/2 jars...crazy, I know. I'll eat it straight up (mixed with water) or mix it in with cottage cheese, jam, splenda and cinnamon (delish) or put it fage. I'm definitely going to order more. However, I measure it out and I'm not sure if there are really 16 servings (as the label says). Thu Mar 29 18:40:52 -0700 2007 2433876 18011 Jacey