381191 Wed Mar 14 18:53:14 -0700 2007 19 18 Manhattan 0 2386820 Hey everyone... I have a friend visiting and I want to take him somewhere that we can not only have a decent meal, but have some interesting beers as well. I have yet to find a place in the city that does both. Its either a great beer selection with no food or greasy food or great food with your typical 5 beers on tap. I'm in the west village so the closer the better, but I'll travel uptown if its worth it. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance... Wed Mar 14 18:53:14 -0700 2007 82871 ktfood 1 2386855 The perfect place for you is Petite Abeille on W Broadway and Duane. The food is excellent, Belgian bistro with yummy fries. And they have the full complement of Belgian beers including my current fav, Corsendonk. - Sean Wed Mar 14 19:09:27 -0700 2007 2386820 11294 Sean Dell 1 2386870 another belgian option is cafe bruxelles. also has great frites, and a good belgian beer selection (mostly or entirely bottles). gingerman has really amazing beer, and i recently learned that they serve food. unfortunately the food is far from great. Wed Mar 14 19:14:21 -0700 2007 2386820 15695 rose water 1 2386945 Hey thanks for the suggestions... I'll look them both up. And Gingerman... I love that place but i'd have to agree, I can't really see that place having good food. Awesome beer selection though! Wed Mar 14 19:40:25 -0700 2007 2386820 82871 ktfood 1 2387104 Not the neighborhood but Waterfront Ale House on 2nd Ave and 30th Street. Both beers and food are great. Wed Mar 14 20:39:38 -0700 2007 2386820 10771 eve 1 2387194 Puck Fair! It's in the LES / Nolita. Wed Mar 14 21:22:08 -0700 2007 2386820 64215 cimui 1 2387358 I’ve typically seen pretty solid beer lists at a variety of restaurants both in nyc and at home here in Philly these days. For example Gramercy Tavern's beer list includes: D R A F T B E E R Rogue Uberfest Pilsner, Oregon Southampton Double White Ale, New York Carol Stoudt’s Scarlet Lady Ale, Pennsylvania Stone IPA, California Brooklyn Monster, New York Brooklyn Smoked Weissbock, New York Sixpoint Encore, New York B O T T L E D B E E R & C I D E R Estrella de Galicia, Spain Staropramen, Czech Republic Dupont Saison, Vieille Provision, Belgium Schneider Weisse, Germany Liefmans Glühkriek, Belgium Lindemans Pêche Lambic, Belgium Hanssens Mead The Gueuze, Belgium Cantillon Classic Gueuze, Belgium Troubadour Blond, Belgium Samuel Smith’s Pale Ale, England Hitachino Japanese Classic Ale, Japan Westmalle Tripel, Trappist Ale, Belgium Chimay Blue, Trappist Ale, Belgium Corsendonk Abbey Brown Ale, Belgium Liefmans Goudenband, Belgium Rochefort 8, Trappist Ale, Belgium Schneider Aventinus, Germany Schlenkerla Rauchbier Marzen, Germany Traquair House Jacobite Ale, Scotland Coopers Best Extra Stout, Australia Sinebrychoff Porter, Finland Pear, Authentique, Eric Bordelet, 2004, France Apple, Semi Dry, Farnum Hill, New Hampshire Apple, Etienne Dupont, 2005, France (375ml) And I recall seeing decent beer lists at places like Pastis, Balthazar, Cercle Rogue, Landmarc, etc. So just as an option to the more beer centered places suggested above you might also want to just checkout the beer lists at some of the city’s better eating establishment? If it rocks then all you bases are covered? Wed Mar 14 22:56:39 -0700 2007 2386820 26180 Chinon00 2 2387907 oooh, gramercy tavern sounds good. I can't get to the website because my computer is messed up, but is it slightly more upscale? It seems so, which I like and I think my friend would too. Thu Mar 15 07:27:19 -0700 2007 2387358 82871 ktfood 3 2387983 Alan Richman, the reviewer for Bloomberg.com, recently wrote up Gramercy Tavern and he was not pleased. Michael Anthony, formerly of Blue Hill SB, has taken over the kitchen but it seems the magic hasn't transfered over. One comment - "Former chef Tom Colicchio had the knack of making simple food vivid. New chef Michael Anthony makes complicated food uninteresting. " Full review here - http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601040&sid=aRGgvRwwSGDM&refer=columnist_usdine Thu Mar 15 07:49:37 -0700 2007 2387907 10162 Bob Martinez 3 2388241 It is can be expensive and as I understand it can also be difficult to get a reservation. But I'm not really suggesting that you go there or to any other place in particular. My only real point was to be aware that a lot of what would be considered good to great restaurants now have broad and kick butt draught and bottled beer selections as well. Thu Mar 15 08:53:52 -0700 2007 2387907 26180 Chinon00 4 2388456 I think the Tavern room at GT is walk-in only if I'm not mistaken. Tipsy Thu Mar 15 09:47:45 -0700 2007 2388241 16161 TipsyMcStagger 1 2387522 Lederhosen for solid German food and great German beer selection. FYI, Blind Tiger Alehouse is reopening tonight (yay!) on Bleecker and 7th Ave South. By far one of the great beer bars of the City, now back in business. Thu Mar 15 03:45:54 -0700 2007 2386820 22627 MaspethMaven 2 2387890 Blind Tiger? Really? I'm so excited! I'm going to try and make it out there. I tried Arrogant Bastard Ale for the first time there! Thu Mar 15 07:20:02 -0700 2007 2387522 82871 ktfood 3 2393918 Yes, yes and, yes. I remember trying a hazelnut stout there, I think by Heavyweight. It was on cask and delicious with oysters. so glad they are back! Fri Mar 16 18:42:10 -0700 2007 2387890 22627 MaspethMaven 2 2393995 I went to Blind Tiger's website and was intrigued. I really have enjoyed dba upon visits to the city. In your opinion are the two even close? Note: Forget atmosphere and food in your evaluation. Thanks! Fri Mar 16 19:25:16 -0700 2007 2387522 26180 Chinon00 1 2387910 The food is pretty good at Loreley and Zum Schneider, and the beer is even better. Plus the whole German biergarten thing is very festive. My current favorite for basic, well executed pub grub with an English/Irish slant is the Bayard's Ale House, and they have 20 mostly unusual draft beers available. It's on Hudson and Charles. It's not fancy, but I love the place. Thu Mar 15 07:27:46 -0700 2007 2386820 56793 ballulah 2 2387936 hey that sounds awesome too. I swear, you are all making this decision so difficult! But thats a good thing because now I have an amazing list of places to go. Thu Mar 15 07:34:49 -0700 2007 2387910 82871 ktfood 2 2388375 I second Zum Schneider, been there several times and the beer is outstanding plus the food is solid. Thu Mar 15 09:26:43 -0700 2007 2387910 52758 dmleo 1 2388473 Against the Grain, on 6th between B and C, has a great selection of interesting beers and an upscale delicious bar food menu. The servers are very well informed and the ambiance is cozy and comfortable. Just be aware, it is very small and all seating is on stools, but well worth it. Thu Mar 15 09:52:13 -0700 2007 2386820 80898 livetoeat24 1 2388509 Waterfront Ale House, Petite Abeille, Cafe de Bruxelles. Thu Mar 15 09:59:06 -0700 2007 2386820 10216 Lucia