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ktfood Mar 14, 2007 06:53 PM

Hey everyone... I have a friend visiting and I want to take him somewhere that we can not only have a decent meal, but have some interesting beers as well. I have yet to find a place in the city that does both. Its either a great beer selection with no food or greasy food or great food with your typical 5 beers on tap. I'm in the west village so the closer the better, but I'll travel uptown if its worth it. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance...

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    Sean Dell RE: ktfood Mar 14, 2007 07:09 PM

    The perfect place for you is Petite Abeille on W Broadway and Duane. The food is excellent, Belgian bistro with yummy fries.

    And they have the full complement of Belgian beers including my current fav, Corsendonk.

    - Sean

    1. rose water RE: ktfood Mar 14, 2007 07:14 PM

      another belgian option is cafe bruxelles. also has great frites, and a good belgian beer selection (mostly or entirely bottles).

      gingerman has really amazing beer, and i recently learned that they serve food. unfortunately the food is far from great.

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        ktfood RE: ktfood Mar 14, 2007 07:40 PM

        Hey thanks for the suggestions... I'll look them both up. And Gingerman... I love that place but i'd have to agree, I can't really see that place having good food. Awesome beer selection though!

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          eve RE: ktfood Mar 14, 2007 08:39 PM

          Not the neighborhood but Waterfront Ale House on 2nd Ave and 30th Street. Both beers and food are great.

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            cimui RE: ktfood Mar 14, 2007 09:22 PM

            Puck Fair! It's in the LES / Nolita.

            1. Chinon00 RE: ktfood Mar 14, 2007 10:56 PM

              I’ve typically seen pretty solid beer lists at a variety of restaurants both in nyc and at home here in Philly these days. For example Gramercy Tavern's beer list includes:
              D R A F T B E E R
              Rogue Uberfest Pilsner, Oregon
              Southampton Double White Ale, New York
              Carol Stoudt’s Scarlet Lady Ale, Pennsylvania
              Stone IPA, California
              Brooklyn Monster, New York
              Brooklyn Smoked Weissbock, New York
              Sixpoint Encore, New York
              B O T T L E D B E E R & C I D E R
              Estrella de Galicia, Spain
              Staropramen, Czech Republic
              Dupont Saison, Vieille Provision, Belgium
              Schneider Weisse, Germany
              Liefmans Glühkriek, Belgium
              Lindemans Pêche Lambic, Belgium
              Hanssens Mead The Gueuze, Belgium
              Cantillon Classic Gueuze, Belgium
              Troubadour Blond, Belgium
              Samuel Smith’s Pale Ale, England
              Hitachino Japanese Classic Ale, Japan
              Westmalle Tripel, Trappist Ale, Belgium
              Chimay Blue, Trappist Ale, Belgium
              Corsendonk Abbey Brown Ale, Belgium
              Liefmans Goudenband, Belgium
              Rochefort 8, Trappist Ale, Belgium
              Schneider Aventinus, Germany
              Schlenkerla Rauchbier Marzen, Germany
              Traquair House Jacobite Ale, Scotland
              Coopers Best Extra Stout, Australia
              Sinebrychoff Porter, Finland
              Pear, Authentique, Eric Bordelet, 2004, France
              Apple, Semi Dry, Farnum Hill, New Hampshire
              Apple, Etienne Dupont, 2005, France (375ml)
              And I recall seeing decent beer lists at places like Pastis, Balthazar, Cercle Rogue, Landmarc, etc.
              So just as an option to the more beer centered places suggested above you might also want to just checkout the beer lists at some of the city’s better eating establishment? If it rocks then all you bases are covered?

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                ktfood RE: Chinon00 Mar 15, 2007 07:27 AM

                oooh, gramercy tavern sounds good. I can't get to the website because my computer is messed up, but is it slightly more upscale? It seems so, which I like and I think my friend would too.

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                  Bob Martinez RE: ktfood Mar 15, 2007 07:49 AM

                  Alan Richman, the reviewer for Bloomberg.com, recently wrote up Gramercy Tavern and he was not pleased. Michael Anthony, formerly of Blue Hill SB, has taken over the kitchen but it seems the magic hasn't transfered over. One comment -

                  "Former chef Tom Colicchio had the knack of making simple food vivid. New chef Michael Anthony makes complicated food uninteresting. "

                  Full review here - http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pi...

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                    Chinon00 RE: ktfood Mar 15, 2007 08:53 AM

                    It is can be expensive and as I understand it can also be difficult to get a reservation. But I'm not really suggesting that you go there or to any other place in particular. My only real point was to be aware that a lot of what would be considered good to great restaurants now have broad and kick butt draught and bottled beer selections as well.

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                      TipsyMcStagger RE: Chinon00 Mar 15, 2007 09:47 AM

                      I think the Tavern room at GT is walk-in only if I'm not mistaken.

                      Tipsy

                2. MaspethMaven RE: ktfood Mar 15, 2007 03:45 AM

                  Lederhosen for solid German food and great German beer selection.

                  FYI, Blind Tiger Alehouse is reopening tonight (yay!) on Bleecker and 7th Ave South. By
                  far one of the great beer bars of the City, now back in business.

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                    ktfood RE: MaspethMaven Mar 15, 2007 07:20 AM

                    Blind Tiger? Really? I'm so excited! I'm going to try and make it out there. I tried Arrogant Bastard Ale for the first time there!

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                      MaspethMaven RE: ktfood Mar 16, 2007 06:42 PM

                      Yes, yes and, yes. I remember trying a hazelnut stout there, I think by Heavyweight. It was on cask and delicious with oysters.

                      so glad they are back!

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                      Chinon00 RE: MaspethMaven Mar 16, 2007 07:25 PM

                      I went to Blind Tiger's website and was intrigued. I really have enjoyed dba upon visits to the city. In your opinion are the two even close? Note: Forget atmosphere and food in your evaluation.

                      Thanks!

                    3. ballulah RE: ktfood Mar 15, 2007 07:27 AM

                      The food is pretty good at Loreley and Zum Schneider, and the beer is even better. Plus the whole German biergarten thing is very festive.

                      My current favorite for basic, well executed pub grub with an English/Irish slant is the Bayard's Ale House, and they have 20 mostly unusual draft beers available. It's on Hudson and Charles. It's not fancy, but I love the place.

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                        ktfood RE: ballulah Mar 15, 2007 07:34 AM

                        hey that sounds awesome too. I swear, you are all making this decision so difficult! But thats a good thing because now I have an amazing list of places to go.

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                          dmleo RE: ballulah Mar 15, 2007 09:26 AM

                          I second Zum Schneider, been there several times and the beer is outstanding plus the food is solid.

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                          livetoeat24 RE: ktfood Mar 15, 2007 09:52 AM

                          Against the Grain, on 6th between B and C, has a great selection of interesting beers and an upscale delicious bar food menu. The servers are very well informed and the ambiance is cozy and comfortable. Just be aware, it is very small and all seating is on stools, but well worth it.

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                            Lucia RE: ktfood Mar 15, 2007 09:59 AM

                            Waterfront Ale House, Petite Abeille, Cafe de Bruxelles.

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