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monkfanatic Mar 12, 2007 10:55 PM

there are almost every kind of cooking show on food network but asian, we need chinese japanese , karen.......................

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  1. Danimal n Hustler RE: monkfanatic Mar 12, 2007 11:50 PM

    Ming Tsai use to be on Ming's Quest and East Meets West and always paired his food with wine at the end (my favorite!). I dunno why it's not on anymore =(

    I hate you Food Network

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    1. re: Danimal n Hustler
      jennyantepenultimate RE: Danimal n Hustler Mar 13, 2007 02:31 AM

      You can find Ming on PBS now cooking on Simply Ming and on the competition show Cooking Under Fire.

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      monkfanatic RE: monkfanatic Mar 13, 2007 11:23 AM

      which channel is cooking under fire play

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        Dee S RE: monkfanatic Mar 13, 2007 11:48 AM

        PBS shows Cooking Under Fire. I don't think there's a new season yet.

        Ming's shows (Simply Ming, East Meets West) are also shown on another channel...I think it's Fine Living....must check DirecTV listings.

        1. Phaedrus RE: monkfanatic Mar 13, 2007 01:52 PM

          I think, once again, the FN is playing to the leading demographics. The truth is that there are a lot of people who love asian foods but there are far more people who want the comfort of the known, such as Italian, southern, and comfort oofds. Look at Giada, Rachel Ray, Emeril, Paula Deen, etc. Asian foods just does not hit as big of an audience. The most exotic thing that is on is homogenized Italian and French.

          Its too bad, its kind of like music back in the 60's and 70's, all kinds of music got played on radio, soul followed rock followed pop, etc. Then Album Oriented Rock radio came around and they started to program the music from New York City and no more diversity, no more disc jockey programming the shows. No more spontaneity. Video didn't kill the radio star, AOR did.

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          1. re: Phaedrus
            ML8000 RE: Phaedrus Mar 13, 2007 02:03 PM

            I agree. There's also no shows about Mexican or Latin food either. Considering the volume either produce in the real world, it's semi-amazing. My guess is that viewers might eat Asian or Latin cuisine, but at a restaurant...and the FN is a playing it super-safe and might be a tad bit xenophobic.

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              spellweaver16 RE: ML8000 Sep 13, 2009 02:33 AM

              And Asian food would probably require a lot of people to go out and stock up on strange and exotic ingredients.

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                coney with everything RE: spellweaver16 Sep 17, 2009 05:29 AM

                And that would have worked well with the "ingredient smuggler" concept on TNFNS.

                That could have been done for so many international cuisines...

              2. re: ML8000
                scubadoo97 RE: ML8000 Oct 8, 2009 05:15 AM

                Simply Delicioso is still on and Daisy Martinez moved from PBS to do a show on FN

            2. bitsubeats RE: monkfanatic Mar 14, 2007 10:36 PM

              how about eastern european, middle eastern, african, latin american, polynesian, asian, the whole damn globe except for french and italian (no offense guys).

              so what is "karen" anyways?

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                kobetobiko RE: bitsubeats Mar 14, 2007 10:39 PM

                I think the OP means Korean

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                  bitsubeats RE: kobetobiko Mar 14, 2007 10:46 PM

                  figured as much, but it doesn't hurt to be 100% sure!

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                  Sam Fujisaka RE: bitsubeats Oct 1, 2009 12:33 PM

                  Karen are one of the indigenous groups of northern Thailand, parts of Lao, parts of Myanmar, and parts of Vietnam. They've always been pushed around by the more agressive Hmong.

                3. flyingpigeonLA RE: monkfanatic Sep 9, 2009 07:23 AM

                  Glad to see others have noticed this as well. Ming Tsai is the most contemporay asian-american chef that is on any networks radar these days. I remember Yan Can Cook and Iron Chefs are the most mainstream, though I doubt most Americans remember the asian chefs names. FoodNetwork is just playing it safe and will NOT represent unless we the viewers demand it. This original thread was two years ago. I wonder if FN can catch up with what all asian-americans already know; asian food is everywhere in America. Think burger joints are the most popular fast food? Wrong! Its chinese food. Mom and pop shops, Panda Express, even the Olive Garden of chinese food; PF Changs counts! Heck, lump in Indian, Korean, Vietnamese, Thai, Japanese and a continent of cuisine is alive and tasted in America. Wake up Food Network! I have been on over two dozen road trips across America and no matter the tiny armpit town I am in, I can always find a family that runs the chinese restaurant in town.

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                  1. re: flyingpigeonLA
                    monkfanatic RE: flyingpigeonLA Sep 13, 2009 01:06 AM

                    isn't it sad, after 2 years , there are still no Asian cooking show on food net work, don't know what they are thinking, not everybody love Italian and American food

                  2. flylice2x RE: monkfanatic Sep 13, 2009 03:48 AM

                    Other than Ming Tsai, who are the most notable Asian Chefs around now days? There are none. Language barrier and non -American born maybe the problem. So no Asian cooking shows on FN.

                    FN has or had a few Latin Chefs shows.

                    Most Chefs make their rmark / money by selling their show to PBS or have local cooking shows like Sam Choy in Hawaii. This way they are more in control the content that is put out.

                    1. ritabwh RE: monkfanatic Sep 22, 2009 04:52 PM

                      This thread was started on March 2007.
                      14 replies with a revival on Sept 9, 2009, and last post on Sept. 13, 2009.
                      Obviously not alot of interest on the subject of Asian chefs, even on Chow.
                      I guess Food Network's market researchers are spot on?
                      Seriously, I can't believe there is not even a Chinese cooking show on Food Network.

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                      1. re: ritabwh
                        monkfanatic RE: ritabwh Sep 27, 2009 11:13 PM

                        I started this 2 years ago, and nothing has changed, I am really disappointed at food network, I guess they just don't think about asian food that much, I guess they assumed asian don't watch food network or people don't like to eat asian food , which is not true

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                        gloriousfood RE: monkfanatic Sep 23, 2009 08:07 AM

                        I vote for David Chang! I think he can take Asian cooking to a whole other level that no other current well-known Asian chefs (Ming Tsai, Martin Yan, Kwylie Kwong, etc.) can do.

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                        1. re: gloriousfood
                          ritabwh RE: gloriousfood Sep 23, 2009 05:25 PM

                          Asian is so broad a term. It's not as easily tagged as Italian, French, Greek.....probably most comparable to Mediterannean?
                          A top Japanese chef will not necessarily be even a competent Chinese chef, or Thai, or Vietnamese, etc. etc.
                          That's why I think Chinese is a great starting point. Everyone likes Chinese and there are so many different regional cooking styles. It would be easy to start introducing "real" Chinese food along with the General Tsoa chicken and bringing in guest chefs for other Asian cuisines.
                          Hey! Ming already did that. But that was after he moved on to PBS.
                          Now, I am truly mystified why Food Network has not produced an original Chinese cooking show. I'm not expecting any major prodcution. A stand and stir show would suit me just fine.

                        2. chowser RE: monkfanatic Sep 23, 2009 08:31 AM

                          If food network did anything ethnic, it wouldn't be ethnic, it would be American ideas of ethnic, like Robin Miller making fried rice with a lot of hoisin sauce.

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                          1. re: chowser
                            dave_c RE: chowser Sep 23, 2009 08:39 AM

                            Hoisin sauce? What's that? It would be La Choy Soy Sauce instead of hoisin. Hoisin is just too ethnic. :-D

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                              Evilbanana11 RE: chowser Sep 23, 2009 08:12 PM

                              So true. I laugh at all the gringofied asian recipes on FN. Soy sauce + hoisin + sesame oil = as Asian as they get.

                            2. tastyjon RE: monkfanatic Sep 24, 2009 01:57 AM

                              I'd guess the challenging part is having a show that's not too exotic for the average viewer.

                              How many cities have a lot of supermarkets that offer Bok Choy, fresh ginger, Shitake mushrooms, asian eggplant, daikon, etc? Maybe not so tough in certain coastal cities but when you start moving away from places with large Asian populations and/or access to fresh product, the everyday Asian ingredients become harder to source.

                              The average market in mid America... they might not have real, fresh noodles, but the have to cheap ramen stuff. They might not have fresh lemongrass, but they do have a can of bamboo shoots or the mini corn cobs.

                              I think we'll see more Asian hosts when the full scope of Asian foods are more available to the average viewer.

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                              1. re: tastyjon
                                mojoeater RE: tastyjon Oct 4, 2009 08:58 AM

                                I agree with this. While I love Asian food and choose Indian, Thai, Chinese often when dining out, I cannot get the ingredients necessary to make my favorite dishes at home. And "Americanizing" these cuisines by using regular supermarket stuff just doesn't do it for me.

                                1. re: tastyjon
                                  Caroline1 RE: tastyjon Oct 5, 2009 12:27 AM

                                  I think the availability af Asian ingredients is much broader than you think, tastyjon. I'd be willing to bet you can find bok choy and lemon grass in 98% of America's mid-size towns and in all large cities and their suburbs. For those who truly are without local sources, there is always the internet. I suspect interest determines choices far more than availability. Keep in mind there are those among us (but probably not on these boards) who think shredded wheat and Chef Boyardee are exotic fare! '-)

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                                    kubasd RE: tastyjon Oct 7, 2009 03:33 PM

                                    ummmmm my local grocery store, a basic stop and shop in rural southeastern CT has bok choy, fresh ginger, shiitake mushrooms, asian eggplant, daikon radish, fresh lemongrass, thai chilis, fish sauce, tamari, soy sauce, fresh noodles, multiple colors of sesame seeds, and a large variety of rice vinegars....

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                                      rozz01 RE: kubasd Oct 7, 2009 03:56 PM

                                      Yeah... I live in Eastern Iowa and there are three asian stores within ten miles. I really dont think finding products is so hard.

                                  2. rozz01 RE: monkfanatic Sep 24, 2009 05:24 PM

                                    During Top Chef Masters, I had a total chef Crush on Anita Lo.... She could do a great job on making it all accessible to middle America. The Midwest and the South seem to be who the Food Network is targeting, instead of the whole country.

                                    1. anonymoose RE: monkfanatic Oct 1, 2009 12:28 PM

                                      I recently read that Jaden from the Steamy Kitchen blog was asked to audition for the Next Food Network Star but turned it down. Perhaps FN is relying too much on that show to find their new talent (Asian or otherwise) instead of developing shows separately.

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                                        CookieWeasel RE: monkfanatic Oct 1, 2009 03:26 PM

                                        What do you say, we boot out all those FN competition shows and replace them with cooking shows-- Indian, Chinese, Japanese and Scandinavian, for a start! I am so burnt out on Italian food I could croak. Enough already.

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                                          cinnamon girl RE: CookieWeasel Oct 3, 2009 09:07 PM

                                          Completely agree CW. How many more risotto demos do we need? The voice of authority admonishing us NEVER to use cheese with fish. Or confidently, and erroneously, informing us that "pancetta is like bacon but smokier" . . WRONG. I always complain that they all railed against the "hegemony" of French food and simply replaced it with a new hegemony: Italian.

                                        2. Caroline1 RE: monkfanatic Oct 3, 2009 08:11 PM

                                          Food Network has a GREAT Asian chef who appears with some regularity. Iron Chef Masaharu Marimoto. I just wish they'd give him his own show. I love his humor, and his cooking is instructive and great entertainment.

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                                          1. re: Caroline1
                                            KTinNYC RE: Caroline1 Oct 4, 2009 08:15 AM

                                            Morimoto will never get a show on Food Network. The network thinks so little of his English they seem to think it is necessary to over-dub his voice on ICA.

                                            1. re: KTinNYC
                                              Caroline1 RE: KTinNYC Oct 5, 2009 12:00 AM

                                              Well, I've never claimed the Food Network knew what it was doing. However.... he DID serve as a judge on a recent show, and believe it or not, NO SUBTITLES! Maybe there's hope? But there is some chance he may have been offered a show and turned it down. He's a pretty smart guy.

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                                            annabana RE: monkfanatic Oct 5, 2009 10:46 AM

                                            My dream of an Asian cooking show would be "Ming and Mom." Ming Tsai's mom is telegenic, funny and charming, speaks with almost no accent and is a very skilled cook. Her chemistry with her son is terrific--the age difference and cooking styles add so much. I've seen her twice on his PBS show and both times she had me laughing out loud. On one episode she talked about how many concubines her grandfather had! "Ming and Mom" would have me glued to my seat.

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                                              monkfanatic RE: annabana Oct 6, 2009 12:02 AM

                                              same here, she is funny, but sometimes I think she forgot she is on her son's cooking show, not her own show

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                                                Sam Fujisaka RE: monkfanatic Oct 6, 2009 07:32 AM

                                                A great show would be, "Ming's Mom & Kylie's Mom".

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                                                  anonymoose RE: Sam Fujisaka Oct 7, 2009 02:01 PM

                                                  Oh my yes that would be so much better!

                                              2. re: annabana
                                                BHansen83 RE: annabana Mar 2, 2011 07:55 AM

                                                This episode was on WTTW Prime in Chicago today (3/2/11) and I was dying laughing when his mom started counting off the concubines her grandfather had.

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