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weinstein5 Mar 6, 2007 09:43 AM

Just checking to see if there are any updates to the kosher scene in Detroit - I will be travelling there next week - I found the thread form 9 monthes ago and wanted to see if anything has changed?

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    zsero Mar 6, 2007 01:38 PM

    As of my last trip, 4 weeks ago, nothing much had changed. Milk and Honey still shines, and nothing else is worth mentioning.

    1. KosherNY Mar 7, 2007 06:30 AM

      See, I think Milk and Honey isn't as good as it used to be... Cafe One next to One Stop Kosher has real NYC pizza, as opposed to Jerusalem Pizza. I'd be sure to hit that up...

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        zsero Mar 7, 2007 11:34 AM

        Oh, Milk and Honey used to be better than it is now, but it's still as good as the better dairy restaurants of Brooklyn.

        As for "real NYC pizza", see the thread about that - it ain't all it's cracked up to be, and in any case I don't need to go to Detroit to get it (weinstein5 didn't specify where s/he was coming from).

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          weinstein5 Mar 7, 2007 05:09 PM

          Close enough - Chicago and we have a few good pizza places

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        joekool02 Nov 12, 2007 11:42 AM

        I don't know if you plan on visiting Detroit, but I saw your post and wanted to know if you ever went to Rami's. It used to be BKC, but with the new owner came a whole new attitude. I would try it out next time you are there.
        http://ramisfood.tripod.com/

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          LoveKosherEats Nov 12, 2007 01:25 PM

          how new an attitude? BKC2Go used to be horrendous. dirty - no seating -- and just greasy spoon stuff. is it the same size/menu?

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            zsero Nov 29, 2007 01:55 PM

            I'm in Detroit again, and will give Rami's a try. Any recs on what to order?

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              zsero Dec 2, 2007 07:46 PM

              So we took joekool's advice and got takeaway from Rami's. It was certainly better than BKC.

              The menu says you can order any of the Asian chicken dishes with tofu instead of chicken. Oddly, while the various chicken dishes are all different prices, if you take the tofu option they're all the same price. I'm not sure how to explain that.

              Anyway, we got General Tsao's chicken, Peanut tofu, and a variety of "poppers" - 6 each of chicken, broccoli, and mushroom - and the kids had hot dogs. The General Tsao's was ordinary, not bad but nothing special. I enjoyed the peanut tofu, and I'm not at all sure that chicken would have improved it any. By the time I sampled the poppers they were cold, and maybe that's why I didn't care for them; others liked them. The kids were happy with their hot dogs. All in all it was a positive experience, and I'll certainly try them again next time I'm in town. Maybe I'll get the peanut chicken and see how it compares to the tofu.

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              cwsilverberg Nov 12, 2007 02:26 PM

              i hear saras is back in motown, its a classic clean deli from back in the day

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                LoveKosherEats Nov 12, 2007 02:41 PM

                kosher?

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                  cwsilverberg Nov 12, 2007 05:44 PM

                  yes sara is kosher should be under the vaad of detroit whatever its called my grandparenst live tehre and as a child i rember fond memories of eating there and I have heard thru the grapevine that it has reopened found this webpage with a good directory http://www.hanefesh.com/location/Mich...

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                    LoveKosherEats Nov 12, 2007 06:12 PM

                    ah, it's at the old folks home -- not quite a restaurant right?

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                      cwsilverberg Nov 12, 2007 06:23 PM

                      after deeper insight i see that they are located it the jcc which is by no means an old folks home http://sarasdeli.net/sarasmenu.pdf

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                        zsero Nov 13, 2007 07:31 AM

                        So has Subsation closed? I can't see where there's room in the JCC for both, either physically or commercially.

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                          LoveKosherEats Nov 29, 2007 10:58 PM

                          i think its just saras

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                zsero Dec 2, 2007 08:09 PM

                We made another visit to Milk and Honey, and it continues to impress. It's not nearly as good as it used to be when it first opened, but it actually seemed to have improved since our last visit. The service was good, better than it's been lately; perhaps this was just because it wasn't busy, but whatever the reason it was certainly appreciated.

                We started with lentil soup and "house cobb salad"; the soup was spicy and good. The menu says the salad comes with "artisan bleu", which none of us were feeling adventurous enough for, but the waiter reassured us that it's actually made with feta, and in any case we could order it without any cheese at all if we liked for the non-dairy-eater. The salad also features tofu cubes, hard boiled eggs, avocado, "crispy lox 'bacon'", and toasted pecans. I can't say I noticed the "lox 'bacon'", but all in all it was a pleasant starter. We also ordered a grilled vegetable quesadilla and bronzed salmon patties from the appetizer menu. The salmon patties, as the waiter told us in advance, were two rather small patties. But the quesadilla turned out to be so big that it could have been a main course. Everyone except the non-dairy-eater enjoyed some of it, and he had the guacamole and the corn salsa that came with it.

                For mains, we had the pan fried walleye, salmon alfredo, and yukon knishes. The salmon alfredo was fine but somewhat ordinary. The other two were excellent. We mostly finished the knishes, and took about half of the salmon and 1/3 of the walleye home for later. The kids ordered a mac and cheese between them, and finished almost all of it, which is more than they did last time.

                For dessert, the kids were disappointed that they were out of all ice cream except vanilla. But the restaurant offered to add a small bowl of chocolate or caramel sauce, with which they could flavour their own ice cream, and that turned out to be much more fun than just ordering chocolate in the first place. Meanwhile the adults had creme brulee, which was done just right.

                I noticed an oddity in the way the bill was produced: it included a mandatory tip of 15%, which was properly calculated on the subtotal, before tax. But it also had the helpful note that "20% of your total is $...", in case the diner wanted to tip more (which I did). But that 20% was calculated on the after-tax total! Which I thought was just slightly less than 100% honest. As a bit of a protest, I calculated 20% of the base before tax, and tipped that rather than the suggested amount. Which is still more than the 15% minimum, because I thought it was indeed worth more than the bare minimum. Coming here reminds me of what tips are supposed to be for, and what service can be like, something I rarely experience at kosher restaurants in NYC. I resent tipping when I don't really see what I'm getting for it. In this case what I was getting was readily apparent and I had no problem paying for it.

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