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<topic>
  <id>377951</id>
  <title>st patricks day</title>
  <published_at>Tue Mar 06 07:14:13 -0800 2007</published_at>
  <post_count>38</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>23</id>
    <name>Ontario (including Toronto)</name>
  </board>
  <posts>
    <post>
      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>2357131</id>
        <content>hi guys,
can anybody tell me where i can find a good traditional irish pub? i know u have fionn mcools and the irish embassy,pj o briens but there all fake to me!!

live music actual irish people!!  any info would be great!

</content>
        <published_at>Tue Mar 06 07:14:13 -0800 2007</published_at>
        <parent_id></parent_id>
        <user>
          <id>77718</id>
          <name>eire</name>
        </user>
      </post>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2357240</id>
      <content>Dora Keogh or Allens

http://www.allens.to/dora/dk2.htm</content>
      <published_at>Tue Mar 06 07:44:00 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2357131</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>73936</id>
        <name>Finnegan</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2394855</id>
      <content>The line-ups start here before 10am. But it's so worth it.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Mar 17 09:20:42 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2357240</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>20645</id>
        <name>mummy2Luna</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2357500</id>
      <content>Galway Arms...Lakeshore Blvd..near Costco</content>
      <published_at>Tue Mar 06 08:50:05 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2357131</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>12395</id>
        <name>emq</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2394961</id>
      <content>Galway Arms in on The Queensway east of Plastics Dr. (tim horton's) and is on the north side.....</content>
      <published_at>Sat Mar 17 10:06:27 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2357500</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>83559</id>
        <name>eyyyelash</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2357608</id>
      <content>McVeigh's at Jarvis and Richmond (i think)</content>
      <published_at>Tue Mar 06 09:13:15 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2357131</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>21376</id>
        <name>Sam I Am</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2359951</id>
      <content>McVeigh's is Church &amp; Richmond.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Mar 06 18:37:49 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2357608</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11462</id>
        <name>westhead74</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2358145</id>
      <content>wherever you go, go early.  especially in the case of mcveigh's and the dora.  those places usually get packed by noon on a weekday st. paddy's day, on a weekend you'll be lucky to get through the door.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Mar 06 10:49:14 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2357131</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>48117</id>
        <name>yoyodyne</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2358260</id>
      <content>The Tarra Inn on Eglinton in Scarborough.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Mar 06 11:09:36 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2357131</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>12072</id>
        <name>Googs</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2358335</id>
      <content>Avoid any place that serves green beer...no Irishman (or woman) would be caught dead in a place that dyed their brew...I think McVeighs does this...yuck</content>
      <published_at>Tue Mar 06 11:24:31 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2357131</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>73936</id>
        <name>Finnegan</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2394966</id>
      <content>Mr. McVeigh is Irish from Belfast...does that count?  Last I was there (years ago), most people were fresh off the boat.  That doesn't necessarily cover St. Pat's though, when everyone is "Irish"...  Dora's is great, but crowded.  St. Pat's is the worst day of the year to go to an Irish bar...</content>
      <published_at>Sat Mar 17 10:07:28 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2358335</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>52117</id>
        <name>morrigan</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2358359</id>
      <content>So that pretty much narrows it down to Dora Keogh or Tarra Inn then doesn't it Finnegan?</content>
      <published_at>Tue Mar 06 11:28:33 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2357131</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>12072</id>
        <name>Googs</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2360642</id>
      <content>hi guys,
thanks for the responce!well as for finnegan i cant answer for him!green beer u are having a laugh! i havent decided yet! for jesus sake there has to be one decent irish pub in toronto? signing off desperate!!!!
</content>
      <published_at>Wed Mar 07 00:30:23 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2357131</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>77718</id>
        <name>eire</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2361662</id>
      <content>After multiple trips to Ireland, nothing here compares.

I've tried some of the ones mentioned here, but avoid them 'cause I end up missing that country even more :(</content>
      <published_at>Wed Mar 07 09:35:34 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2360642</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>50683</id>
        <name>Splendid Wine Snob</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>2361806</id>
      <content>Here we go again.  The constant theme of the Toronto boards about how the Irish pubs here aren't as good as those in Ireland, the Mexican restaurants aren't as good as those Mexico, the fish and chip shops are better in Britain,etc,etc,etc.

I've been to Ireland many times and of course the atmosphere will be somewhat different here.  My favourite is Dora Keogh's if you are looking for a traditional Irish pub.  Their celtic sessions on Thrusdays and Wednesdays are fantastic and the set-up is very similar to the small village pubs I frequented in Ireland.  The food and Guinness are great too.

For a pub where you are more likely to actually spend time with the Irish (and Scottish), McVeigh's is a good bet.  This is where all my relatives and their friends go when they come from overseas and it's authentic in the sense that it's just like the pubs these folk actually frequent back home.  Nothing special in terms of food or decor, but it's a friendly neighbourhood pub.  

On St. Patrick's Day, even the "authentic pubs" are going to be full of green beer drinking revelers wearing "kiss me I'm Irish" shirts.  It's inevitable.  If you're Irish don't let this get to you.  Enjoy the day that everyone celebrates your culture regardless of their background!</content>
      <published_at>Wed Mar 07 10:02:22 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2361662</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>58076</id>
        <name>badbhoy</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>2361844</id>
      <content>Go on my son!  You've pretty much hit the nail on the head.  Dora for the feel and Mcveigh's for the peeps.  Thanks for a great post!</content>
      <published_at>Wed Mar 07 10:10:23 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2361806</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>48117</id>
        <name>yoyodyne</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2360646</id>
      <content>Murphy's Law Pub on Queen at Kingston Road is always hopping on St. Patrick's Day.  And the go early suggestion applies here too.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Mar 07 00:41:07 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2357131</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>19782</id>
        <name>Full tummy</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2360977</id>
      <content>My pick for downtown irish pubs would be the Pour Irish Ale House in the Annex (dupont Street)...good selection of beers and a very good irish menu....and no green beer
http://pourhouse.sites.toronto.com/</content>
      <published_at>Wed Mar 07 06:46:22 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2357131</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>73936</id>
        <name>Finnegan</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2361000</id>
      <content>A little farther west (Bloor and Keele - near High Park) my pick would be Whelan's Gate...a nice friendly pub with barkeeps that know how to pull a pint of Guiness...nice pub menu too</content>
      <published_at>Wed Mar 07 06:53:53 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2357131</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>73936</id>
        <name>Finnegan</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2361241</id>
      <content>second whelan's gate!  since i left the dora and the danforth for high park and environs, this has become my irish pub of choice!  great atmosphere and decent food.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Mar 07 08:00:13 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2361000</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>48117</id>
        <name>yoyodyne</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4514545</id>
      <content>just came back from the miller tavern on yonge street (near wilson).
I had mentioned that they were having a party and there was a $25 cover fee that was going to a foundation on an earlier post.
Well, for $25...we received 3 tokens for beer (steam whistle or guiness) or wine or a specialty cocktail made for the party. There was also a full buffet...shrimp, spring rolls, veggie/dip, carved beef on little buns, fruit, a pizza-like appetizer, a smoked samon and cream cheese appetizer, french fries and probably a few more items that I cant remember.
The quality of the food was outstanding...and the service was super friendly.
It wasnt packed-packed-packed, which was fine by me.

I have been to two parties there before...and I always walk away satisfied.
Worth checking out their website every once in a while.

Cheers!!</content>
      <published_at>Tue Mar 17 16:59:45 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>2361000</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>44524</id>
        <name>domesticgodess</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2361638</id>
      <content>You could also try the Galway Arms on the Queensway.  It is very West (technically, I believe it is Etobicoke) and I myself have never been, but when my relatives from Cork were here last September looking for a pub that broadcast the hurling match, the Galway Arms was the only place that I could find.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Mar 07 09:32:33 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2357131</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>19816</id>
        <name>Lazar</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2361687</id>
      <content>PJ O'Briens is fake??? Are you kidding me! Guess you haven't been. They recently did a 'restauranr makeover' which really kicked things up a notch on the Irish side. Considering the owner and 90% of the staff are Irish, it doesn't get more bloody Irish than PJ's!</content>
      <published_at>Wed Mar 07 09:39:14 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2357131</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>19505</id>
        <name>The Macallan 18</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2361855</id>
      <content>went to highschool with mr. quinn (the proprietor of PJs)'s son gavin who now runs the irish embassy pub and can attest that they're the real deal.  </content>
      <published_at>Wed Mar 07 10:13:02 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2361687</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>48117</id>
        <name>yoyodyne</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>4516148</id>
      <content>during the summer, half the servers are Irish students</content>
      <published_at>Wed Mar 18 08:37:39 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>2361855</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>222311</id>
        <name>dickiegreenleaf</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2361875</id>
      <content>Let me know when PJ O'Brien's starts serving steak and kidney pie or the Embassy learns how to make a proper Irish breakfast.  Until then... pass.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Mar 07 10:17:16 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2357131</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>12072</id>
        <name>Googs</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2366027</id>
      <content>Steak and kidney pie is served each Thursday and Friday at PJ's as a feature.  And the Irish girls are just as yummy!</content>
      <published_at>Thu Mar 08 11:30:52 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2361875</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>19505</id>
        <name>The Macallan 18</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>2370042</id>
      <content>Sorry I just get so tired of namby pamby Steak &amp; Mushroom...  As if.  Anyway, my frustration is mainly in the fact that here I am, daughter of a Irishwoman living in Corktown and do you think I could get authentic fare anywhere near me?  No.  I have to go to Scarborough.  I-ma-gine.  Thurs &amp; Fri is a nice touch.  Every day would be nicer.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Mar 09 11:33:13 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2366027</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>12072</id>
        <name>Googs</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>4514609</id>
      <content>Googy where in Scarborough? thanks</content>
      <published_at>Tue Mar 17 17:21:27 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>2370042</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>237919</id>
        <name>Squeakycheese</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>4530031</id>
      <content>The Tara Inn.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Mar 23 10:16:46 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4514609</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>12072</id>
        <name>Googs</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2365898</id>
      <content>Try the Rebels Rock in Hamilton for true homey Irish Pub experience, warm environment, decent food and a well pulled pint of stout.  Or you can try Slainte in Hamilton as well but they are more of a corporate offering with really nice traditional-esque appointments, such as woodwork from traditional Irish snugs and a decent Irish music jam every Saturday.  (And Slainte actually makes a mean boxtie)</content>
      <published_at>Thu Mar 08 11:06:45 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2357131</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>12664</id>
        <name>Mike from Hamilton</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2366148</id>
      <content>grace o'malley's downtown - duncan/pearl , great undercover spot, not great taps , hot waitresses, really nice layout, they'll have live music so it should be rocking</content>
      <published_at>Thu Mar 08 11:54:43 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2357131</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>16234</id>
        <name>dannyboy</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2395273</id>
      <content>It must have definitely been rocking since there was a lineup around the block at 12 noon today at O'Malley's when we walked by!</content>
      <published_at>Sat Mar 17 13:01:25 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2366148</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11750</id>
        <name>fickle</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2366190</id>
      <content>hands down, the best st. paddy's day experience in the GTA is not at a pub, but going to the brampton irish centre which is tucked away in an industrial area.  i imagine the food - if they even have it - wouldn't be terrific but the atmosphere is second to none!</content>
      <published_at>Thu Mar 08 11:59:59 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2357131</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>21376</id>
        <name>Sam I Am</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2366266</id>
      <content>the Irish Club in Toronto always has a good knees up</content>
      <published_at>Thu Mar 08 12:16:48 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2357131</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>73936</id>
        <name>Finnegan</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2391611</id>
      <content>Crosspost linking:
http://www.chowhound.com/topics/381116</content>
      <published_at>Fri Mar 16 07:17:17 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2357131</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>33204</id>
        <name>EPIcureanTO</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3463261</id>
      <content>I thought I'd resurrect this thread since St Patrick's Day is fast approaching.  Any new spots this year?  

Line-ups shouldn't be as much of problem on a Monday, just hangovers on a Tuesday!</content>
      <published_at>Wed Mar 05 13:14:40 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>2391611</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>58076</id>
        <name>badbhoy</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4503021</id>
      <content>Galway arms is real nice. cant wait to put away the landy and drink green beer</content>
      <published_at>Fri Mar 13 17:35:48 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>2357131</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>258723</id>
        <name>LBeater</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4514623</id>
      <content>What's a landy?</content>
      <published_at>Tue Mar 17 17:25:57 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4503021</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>71837</id>
        <name>redearth</name>
      </user>
    </post>
  </posts>
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