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little chowhound Mar 3, 2007 06:21 AM

I am 12 years old and on the search for a good burger. I am searching for a really good juicy burger. I am looking for one in the tristate region. I am not looking for a $30 burger. The fries also have to be good. Who doesnt want fries with thier burger. Also a family friendly place.

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    little chowhound Mar 3, 2007 06:23 AM

    This is what i am looking for!!!!!

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      csabo Feb 15, 2010 09:03 AM

      Well I read 166 posts to confirm I was not being redundant like so many here. If you want a great burger go to So Dam Hot in Valhalla. $7 includes fries. Meat is delivered daily and it makes a difference. When your burger comes out resist the temptation and let some of the juice disperse back into the meat before biting. Perfectly toasted bun holds most of the juice but its not easy. Just delicious. Briefly about the place, this is a burger joint plain and simple. I think they have three tables.

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        anonymouse1935 Feb 15, 2010 09:25 AM

        Isn't it a hot dog place (they're very good)? I didn't even realize they had burgers. I'll have to try one, the price is sure right.

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          csabo Sep 7, 2010 09:33 AM

          OOOOH I just tried Squire's in Briarcliff Manor. WOW 10 oz perfectly cooked smothered in bleu cheese with PHENOMINAL sweet potato fries. $9. Not to be missed!

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            fragnet Sep 7, 2010 01:57 PM

            I still don't see what the big deal is about the burgers at Squires. In my opinion, they are average at best, plus the atmosphere and service at the place leave a lot to be desired.

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          smilingal Jun 25, 2010 09:09 AM

          Sutter's Mill in Suffern, Rockland County - can really taste the meat, juicy, huge, DEEEEELICIOUS!
          White Manna is unique (other person had suggested it) but is a totally different experience for burgers - think of white castle but much better tasting!

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            fitzpth Aug 30, 2010 01:34 PM

            Agree that White Mana is bettern then White Castle, but I also think they are bigger.

            I think best burger in the Tri State.

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              misspastina Sep 26, 2010 06:39 PM

              Was at Sutter's just last week. Nothing special at all. 8 oz., very homogenous soft meat on a squishy white bun.

          2. Sra. Swanky Mar 3, 2007 06:59 AM

            Try Piper's Kilt in Eastchester, NY right on Route 22. Awesome burgers. The Eastchester Burger is the greatest - a 1/2 lb bacon cheeseburger, a side of fries (pretty good too!), onion rings, and a side of chili. Very family friendly place - a bit of a wait on weekends, but so worth it!

            Piper's Kilt
            433 White Plains Rd
            Eastchester, NY 10709
            (914) 961-9815

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              debmom Mar 3, 2007 09:34 AM

              Absolutley, Piper's Kilt is the best!!!!!

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                annrudy Mar 3, 2008 02:25 PM

                Piper's Kilt is awesome! Horsefeathers is great also.

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                  nrfoodie Dec 1, 2009 10:12 AM

                  NO WAY!!!! Used to be the best not any more. I am a huge fan but three out of the last four burgers I have had from the Kilt have been TERRIBLE!!

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              onethinmint Mar 3, 2007 09:40 AM

              The Blazer Pub in Somers.

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                shellyesq Mar 3, 2007 10:30 AM

                Ditto to the Blazer Pub, although I think it's technically in Purdys. It doesn't look like much from the outside, but the burgers are excellent. I recommend the hard roll. The fries are very thick - almost like eating 1/4 of a potato - but they are yummy too.

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                  Zobot Aug 3, 2007 08:07 PM

                  Finally got around to trying Blazer tonight. The burgers were excellent and a bargain to boot ($7.25 for a bacon cheeseburger). We didn't try the hard rolls but did have the fries. I'm not a huge fan of ultra thick fries, but they were not bad.

                  The staff was friendly and the the patrons appeared to be mostly regulars.

                  Drove past the Meetinghouse on the way up there, but the Bedford Playhouse had just let out and it looked like a mob scene.

                  Blazer is a bit out of the way, but definitely a good place to find a simple, inexpensive, good burger in a casual and unpretentious locale.

                  Caveat emptor...cash only.

              2. Cheese Boy Mar 3, 2007 07:12 PM

                Kelly's doesn't get a whole lot of play on these boards because many people don't know about them. Very family friendly, but not too many tables. Get there early. Excellent burgers, and great fries. You can get them with chili and cheese too.

                Kellys Sea Level
                413 Midland Ave
                Rye, NY 10580
                (914) 967-0868

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                  MRS Mar 23, 2007 07:28 AM

                  Shhh! Don't tell too mnay people or we Kelly's lovers will never be able to get in again! :)

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                    jhopp217 Feb 14, 2008 11:08 AM

                    They are no Kilt burger, but very good!

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                    jklee_78 Mar 4, 2007 05:27 AM

                    If you're looking around north Jersey, there's a tiny place in Hackensack called White Manna at 358 River Street, right across from McDonald's. When I say tiny, I mean it seats about 15. People from all over the place have been going here for a long time. They serve sliders (think White Castle size only much tastier). Burgers are about $1/piece. They taste great, but I'd stay away from the cheese (at least I thought it tasted funny). The fries are good but nothing spectacular. Hope this helps.

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                      tuxedo Mar 21, 2007 01:09 PM

                      whatever happened to the Iron Horse in northern NJ? Had great hamburgers that were stuffed with the cheese of your choice...yummo!

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                        lucienne78 Mar 22, 2007 08:27 AM

                        I was at the Iron Horse two weeks ago. Their cheeseburgers are to die for and their fries are very good, too. It's in Westwood, NJ.

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                          tuxedo Mar 23, 2007 06:07 AM

                          It is still there? WOW!
                          I am going on a road trip! You have made my day!

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                      Kobe Mar 21, 2007 01:14 PM

                      The Porterhouse on Mamaroneck in White Plains

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                        laylag Jul 1, 2007 01:11 PM

                        Adding my support to The Porterhouse. Went for first time last night and it was one of the best burgers I've ever had anywhere. Perfectly cooked to medium - exactly medium, juicy, beefy - slight char to the outside. Had it with mushrooms, onions and swiss - cheese was really melted, perfectly sowhen so many places can't seem to get that timing right and it's half melted or not hardly at all. The only thing that could have been better was the bun which was a fairly standard sesame. The burger was so good and thick and moist a real quality kaiser or other denser bread was called for.

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                          jhopp217 Feb 14, 2008 11:11 AM

                          I have only been there once, and I'm not a snob, so the hands down worst wait service ever, didn't even bother me. I ordered medium rare, it came out medium (this too I can deal with), not an ounce of moisture in it, aside from whatever was on my toppings. The bun was like three days old, and just made a mess. Not good at all.

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                            jeanki Mar 3, 2008 12:48 PM

                            I've been there several times (Porter House) and have not had this experience. The burgers I've had have always been juicy and flavorful with a large fresh bun and toppings. Service has always been friendly and competent. To me this burger slays Pipers Kilt's version.

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                          westchesterjess Mar 21, 2007 03:36 PM

                          The blazer is amazing. Squires in Briarcliff is good too and they have sweet potato fries!

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                            carijill Mar 21, 2007 03:40 PM

                            horsefeathers in tarrytown. amazing!

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                              fancyfood Mar 22, 2007 07:09 AM

                              The Blazers in Purdys!! There Blooming Onion and chili is great too, but no place has better burgers!!!

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                                Foodie200 Apr 7, 2007 05:07 PM

                                in 2 days i have been to blazer in purdys and kelly's in rye. At Blazer, I had the excellent Blazer Burger. 1/2 lb juicy burger, good meat/fat ratio, hard roll, tomato, grilled onions and bacon with a huge heap of steak fries. Medium Rare. Amazing.
                                Kelly's burger was also good, but not great. The burger itself was not that great, but the fries as well as great poppy-seed roll and tomatoes and onions more than made up for it. I haven't been to PK, but i'm willing to say that blazer has to be the best in the county

                                1. JMF Apr 8, 2007 07:19 AM

                                  In Lower Westchester.

                                  The Piper's Kilt in Eastchester (and in Manhattan and the Bronx) makes a great burger, their Bacon cheddar is super. They are a pub with tables and booths and several tv's showing sports.

                                  BUT, my new favorite is just down the road in Crestwood is An American Bistro which also makes a great burger for $9. They are a bit fancier than PK and are a very good restaurant (with good prices), so I recommend going at lunchtime. (I think they may only have the burger at lunch)

                                  I had one just this past week and I was very pleased. Their fries aren't the normal fries or steak fries, or those nasty seasoned fries, but are super tasty, hand cut (I think they're twice cooked) super thin, shoestrings that are crunchy on the outside, almost like crispy potato sticks, but having fluffy insides. I thought I wasn't going to like them but they were fabulous. I finished them before the burger. Also I think the rolls are made there and were perfect. Very tasty and not too soft or too firm/dense. Also the burger was cooked exactly a perfect medium rare like I requested. A hot pink inside but not over the edge in either direction, and was very juicy, very good quality meat. From the texture I think they ground the meat themselves. Also the cheddar was very good too.

                                  Since they are a very nice restaurant the service was amazing. My friend who joined me is one of those who is always making requests. He first asked for mayo and they had it on the table within seconds, then for more pickles and they had a nice selection on the table so fast my head was spinning, then more raw onion and that was on the table as fast as it could be fresh sliced, then more bread and that was there as soon as it could be heated with a great homemade selection (Their foccacia was real tasty)... all with smiles and friendly attitude. The best thing about the service was that the waiter actually waited until we didn't have our mouth's full when he asked how the food was. I haven't had that happen many times, LOL.

                                  I can't compare to Blazers, which I have heard great things about but PK and AAB are both very good.

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                                    dolores Apr 8, 2007 07:29 AM

                                    I too like Piper's Kilt and finally got to An American Bistro. Very nice place, service was excellent and burger was very good.

                                    But I still have to go with the Blazer's burger. Can't even say why, exactly.

                                    For atmosphere, I'd have to go with Kelly's when they're not busy. Their drinks are outstanding and the bartender/owner? could NOT be more friendly.

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                                    ScottyReiss Apr 8, 2007 02:40 PM

                                    If you are in Northern NJ go to the Allendale Bar and Grill. Best burgers anywhere. I've been to most of the places listed here and the ABG beats them all. They serve a burger you will remember forever. And it's a great place for kids. Stay away from the White Manna (unless it's 4 AM and you're blind drunk!) and I also wouldn't go out of my way for Squires. In fact, when I lived nearby I avoided it! A really great warm-weather burger is at the Hoe-Down Grill at Stew Leonards--you sit outside and they grill the burgers over an open-air grill.

                                    1. Fred19 Apr 8, 2007 04:06 PM

                                      An excellent burger can be had in Major's Steakhouse at either their Woodbury or East Meadow, NY locations. There secret appears to be a high sirloin content and the burger served is exactly as ordered. If you order it rare, it is perfectly rare when it is put in front of you.

                                      A good accompaniment is the home fries. They put out a good pickle/hot pepper and sauerkraut pot after you sit down, with great sour pickles.

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                                        ELA Apr 8, 2007 07:48 PM

                                        I can only talk about Northern NJ -- yes, Allendale Bar & Grill has excellent burgers (and it's sister restaurant Mahwah B & G is very good too). The Iron Horse is very good as well. Davey's Locker makes an excellent burger, one I would travel for. The Bicycle Club in Englewood is very good. A real sleeper, unknown to most, are the burgers (off the menu) at JD's Steak Pit in Fort Lee.

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                                        Foodie200 Apr 9, 2007 05:56 PM

                                        Went to Squires in Briarcliff. Top-notch, not as good as, but on the same level as Blazer. Juicy burger, right size, good cheese, medium rare is medium rare. The meat was smooth, rich, and flavorful with a nice amt. of fatty content. Addicting fries-- crisp golden-brown on the outside, moist and tender on the inside. The burger was cooked really evenly, everything was good. Try it. (Also have specialty burgers like Mexican and Smothered Onions, didn't get to try 'em but look good)

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                                          pinkyswore Apr 10, 2007 01:16 PM

                                          Candlelight Inn
                                          519 Central Park Ave
                                          Scarsdale, NY 10583-1018
                                          (914) 472-9706

                                          Although you will have to order your fries on the side and decide whether you want their regular crinkly ones, waffle fries, onion rings...do you think you can handle that? ;)

                                          If you're a real burger lover then, A Hamburger Today is worth a read.

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                                            jhopp217 Feb 14, 2008 11:12 AM

                                            The burger, like everything else there, is greasy. Not my favorite burger.

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                                            tbtiawid Apr 11, 2007 06:20 AM

                                            The Blazer #1 (although they seem to be shrinking gradually over the last 10 years), Pipers Kilt #2, Squires #3

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                                              KarenNYC Apr 15, 2007 11:38 AM

                                              I know I'll get flamed for this one but I don't think the Piper's Kilt burgers are anything special. We've been a few times as we kept thinking maybe we went on an off night but they were just your average burger. Can anyone suggest someplace in Fairfield county????

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                                                pinkyswore Apr 15, 2007 01:46 PM

                                                Piper's Kilt burgers are not special! It's not you.

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                                                  Scotty100 Apr 15, 2007 01:48 PM

                                                  Gaia in Greenwich do a decent burger at lunch and brunch.

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                                                    KarenNYC Apr 16, 2007 12:31 PM

                                                    well thank goodness as I was starting to doubt my tasetbuds - I ave been to quite a few of the places people rave about and left wondering why - this was one of them. bummer as I LOVE a good burger.

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                                                    jfood Apr 15, 2007 02:10 PM

                                                    Unfortunately the two best (Cherry Street East in New Canaan and Donovan's in SONO) have had some issues. Cherry Street Burned down and is being re-built and Donovans changed hands and we are awaiting feedback from some Hounds.

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                                                    Foodie200 Apr 18, 2007 03:30 PM

                                                    Was going through a Journal News article on this topic. Any comments about the burgers at River City Grill in Irvington? Nat's Place in Elmsford? Umami in Croton? Deer Park Tavern in Katonah? The Meetinghouse in Bedford? Town Dock in Rye? Red Rooster in Brewster? Cobblestone in Purchase? Ruby's in Rye? Willett House in Port Chester? Jackson and Wheeler in Pleasantville? Apologies for the long post.

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                                                      jfood Apr 18, 2007 05:39 PM

                                                      Jfood can report on Meetinghouse. It is a 10 on the Jfood scale. In fact it is soooo good on a saturday night i would bet that 25-35% of the husbands are eating the burger while the wives are eating fish. They serve it on a egg brioche with great fries and if you ask nicely onion rings.

                                                      This is the burger I will measure the Napa & Co. burger against when i get my butt over there for lunch.

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                                                        i_eat_a_lot_of_ice_cream Apr 19, 2007 05:32 PM

                                                        So many burgers, so little time...

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                                                          2busymom May 11, 2007 04:39 PM

                                                          The Meetinghouse has a very good burger. The rest of their menu is good as well.

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                                                            tbetz Jan 26, 2008 10:56 PM

                                                            My experience at River City Grill was less than stellar. Overpriced food, with flavor combinations chosen by the artsy chef for the sake of novelty, not for the sake of enjoyment in eating.

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                                                            minutia Apr 19, 2007 03:39 PM

                                                            Noone seems to know about this one: Quaker Hill Tavern in Chappaqua (where Peabody's used to be). The burger is absolutely phenomenal. Plus, it comes with regular fries or sweet potato fries or onion rings or--ready for this--some of each. Can ya beat that?

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                                                              Foodie200 Apr 19, 2007 04:41 PM

                                                              Interesting, I'm in Chappaqua. Never would've thought to try it for the burger. Thanks.

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                                                              raptor660 May 9, 2007 06:39 PM

                                                              The best burger in Westchester County can be found at Sam's Bar & Grill in Port Chester. It's better than Blazers.

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                                                                KarenNYC Jul 7, 2007 12:41 PM

                                                                where in PC is Sam's located?

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                                                                  debmom Jul 8, 2007 11:24 AM

                                                                  I think raptor is talking about Sams on the Mill St bridge across from the old Tarry Lodge. This is not one of my favorites but some people rave about it.

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                                                                    KarenNYC Aug 4, 2007 04:46 PM

                                                                    I gotta say - we tried Sam's tonight and boy was it a good burger! We could not deal with a meal out with the kids so we did take-out and the burger was still excellent. Juicy, tender and flavorful. Mine had crispy onions (extra yum) and hubby had the cheeseburger and also thought it was a great bar burger. The fries was thick and crisp and they made us onion rings (even tho they were not on the menu) and those were light and crisp as well.

                                                                    raptor - thanks for the tip - thems some good eats!

                                                              2. Barbarella May 11, 2007 10:47 AM

                                                                Hey little chowhound, If you ever get down the shore, try Main Street Bar and Grill on Hyw 35 south in Ocean, N.J. One room is a huge bar and the other is family friendly with many tables. they have THE best burgers around, and I have tried them all as I am definately a carnivore.

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                                                                  tuxedo May 14, 2007 11:24 AM

                                                                  thin james with cheddar sauce on the side - blue cheese dressing on my salad with little shrimp and egg - roasted clams for app & toll house cookie sundae for dessert -
                                                                  mmmmmm

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                                                                    Barbarella May 14, 2007 01:02 PM

                                                                    You got it tuxedo. was just there Friday. Had my usual American burger, and clams for app. Sometimes I skip the clams and have the salad with those shrimp. Yummy!!

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                                                                      tuxedo May 21, 2007 11:13 AM

                                                                      Will have to go there tonight for dinner! I am so hungry now! Good thing I work/live soooo close to this place!

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                                                                        BigBlue120 May 29, 2007 04:10 PM

                                                                        OK OK OK.... now I gotta get over and check this place out. Crazy on summer weekends? When is the best non-benny time to head over in the summer?

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                                                                          Barbarella May 31, 2007 07:41 AM

                                                                          Friday 's at Main Street are usually real crowded, the after work crowd, as bar specials end at 7, we usually try to get there before that or wait till 7:30 to get a seat at the bar. Tables are not a problem. Saturday's are not as crowded.

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                                                                            tuxedo May 31, 2007 07:51 AM

                                                                            B - Went to Main St yesterday for a quick lunch -
                                                                            Gotta tell you - Thin James - Cheddar sauce - shrimp and egg salad with blu cheese dressing - WOW! Could have had the same thing for dinner - Very quiet inside - waitress very good - not over bearing but around when needed.
                                                                            Lots of specials and apps looked very good..

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                                                                              Barbarella May 31, 2007 08:28 AM

                                                                              Have not been there for lunch in a long time. I was there Tuesday night for my berger fix. Some time I must order something else. But the bergers are too tempting!!!

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                                                                  dolores May 29, 2007 12:08 PM

                                                                  I finally got to Squire's in Briarcliff. Excellent burger, when they note a cheesey burger, they mean it.

                                                                  The sweet potato fries were delicious and the salad was substantial. A little rushed between the salad and hamburger, but next time I'll know to warn them.

                                                                  I recommend them for burgers, I enjoyed it as much as Blazer's.

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                                                                    jnk May 31, 2007 07:45 AM

                                                                    The Allstate cafe on west 72nd street in Manhattan. Fantastic bacon-cheeseburger w.muenster and the best fried zucchini chips i've ever had.

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                                                                      OffTheBroiler Jul 4, 2007 09:07 AM

                                                                      If you want good burgers and good fries, you have to try the new Five Guys Burgers and Fries in Hackensack, which just opened a few days ago. its a chain that originated from the Washington DC area and everyone is raving about it. I've been there twice in the last four days -- the default burger is a double made with twin 3.3oz patties and you can get it as a cheeseburger or bacon cheeseburger or no cheese, and all the other optional toppings are free and can customize it just the way you want.

                                                                      The fries are "Boardwalk" style made from fresh potatoes (50lb sacks are strewn all about the restaurant, along with free peanuts for you to shell and eat) and are twice cooked in peanut oil. If you have a peanut allergy like a lot of kids you'll want to avoid the place, but if you don't, they are the best fries anywhere in the region.

                                                                      There are photos of the restaurant on my website, which you can get from my profile.

                                                                      Five Guys also has a Brooklyn and Queens Location, and 20 restaurants are scheduled to open in the NY metro area within the next 5 years. Their corporate website is www.fiveguys.com

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                                                                    sfoss17 Aug 10, 2007 08:52 AM

                                                                    Burger Bar, South Norwalk, CT!! YUM! Great fries & great sweet potato fries!

                                                                    1. billyparsons Aug 11, 2007 06:44 AM

                                                                      This is one of my secret places on the border of Greenwich & Port Chester. Please keep it to yourself...

                                                                       
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                                                                        nuyorknikz Aug 11, 2007 07:15 PM

                                                                        Fat Burger in Massepequa Park on Long Island.

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                                                                          magfitz Aug 13, 2007 07:32 AM

                                                                          unless they have made drastic improvements, i found their burgers to be pretty tasteless (though the toppings were nice and fresh) and their service to be very slow. Had to wait for another 10 minutes AFTER we had finished our burgers for the shake we had ordered to be ready. I much prefer All American though it's basically a fast food burger.

                                                                      2. foodieforthought Aug 14, 2007 06:47 AM

                                                                        If you are anywhere near Long Island, Cheeburger, Cheeburger is a must for burger lovers. They have burgers for the weak (1/8 lb) all the way up to The Pounder, where your name is announced through the restaurant and photo put up on the wall.

                                                                        Very family friendly place, I believe in addition to the on in Plainview, there is one in Port Washington also.

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                                                                          sosit Aug 14, 2007 08:34 AM

                                                                          There's also one in the Palisades Center Mall in Nyack, Rockland County. Great burgers, fries and chocolate malts!

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                                                                          tamerlanenj Aug 14, 2007 07:53 AM

                                                                          Tierney's in Montclair has the absolute best bacon cheeseburger I have ever eaten in my life. Not sure it qualifies as "family friendly" though. Do you have a fake ID? :-)

                                                                          1. jfood Aug 14, 2007 10:22 AM

                                                                            Well with all the talk of burgers, Cherry Street East still not open, the weather inperfect shape, jfood decided to try Burger Bar in SONO, CT. Ordered Bacon Cheeseburger with lettuce, tomato (no onion), a hot dog and some sweet potato fries.

                                                                            - Fries were really good, thin strips, nicely fried with large grounds of salt on them Jfood gives them an 8
                                                                            - Hot Dog was disappointing but we have some great dogs in the area nd the BB dog just does not hold up to Swankys’, Chez, and nowhere close to Super Duper. Jfood can only give the dog a 4
                                                                            - Cheeseburger – Let’s just get the bad news out of the way. NEVER serve lettuce that is turning brown, it does not get the custom in a good mood. The bun was a little weak, not enough flavor for jfood. The tomato was disappointing especially given the time of year and the tomatoes that are available. Now onto the important stuff, the burger. The size is absolutely perfect for a burger, stated at 7 oz on the menu. The texture and quality of the meat was outstanding and they served it cook PERFECTLY, still heavy pink inside. Major kudos. Bacon and cheese were perfectly cooked and melted on top of the burger. The only negatives jfood can give the burger was the seasoning. Some may like absolutely nothing added to the meat but jfood likes a little something to show a little love. The meat was just that, meat. Jfood will rate this part of the meal on the burger, cheese and bacon a 9. The bun tomato receive a 6.

                                                                            But this is the best burger jfood has eaten outside casa jfood since cherry street east burned down.

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                                                                              RobMi Aug 31, 2007 10:37 AM

                                                                              Burgers are very important to American Food Chain-

                                                                              Candlelight, Jackson & Wheeler (Gotta have it with Sweet Potato Fries), Squires, and City Limits make awesome burgers and they are not at entree prices. Have to say that I agree with KarenNYC and that Piper's Kilt is far from special. Maybe a bad day.

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                                                                                KarenNYC Aug 31, 2007 07:10 PM

                                                                                nah - we usually give things like that a second chance and the burger at Piper's was nothing special on either occasion. You guys have to try Burgers, Shakes and Fries in Byram (there is another thread on the board about the place). The burgers were excellent!!!

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                                                                                  RobMi Sep 1, 2007 04:10 PM

                                                                                  Will take your word for it and save myself another trip. Plan to try out BSF and give them a shot. Until then, I stick with my short list of 4 to deal with my burger cravings.

                                                                                  Lived in NYC for many years and I was spoiled by Jackson Hole Burgers and a little place in the Village called Cozys Soup and Burger. When I moved North, I missed those places....a lot until I found my spots.

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                                                                                    jeanki Mar 3, 2008 12:45 PM

                                                                                    I recently went to Piper's Kilt and was thoroughly underwhelmed. It tasted like an ordinary diner or cafeteria burger, and the bun was dull and there were no standard toppings included (like lettuce, tomato, onion). To me, the Burgers Shakes Fries burger is awesome and unique, and another great version I've had so far is at Porter House in White Plains, much more fresh and flavorful.

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                                                                                      jhopp217 Mar 3, 2008 04:36 PM

                                                                                      Gotta back my Kilt boys up. For you not to get lettuce and tomato on your burger, you almost have to beg for them not to give it to you, or specify "just a burger!" And after reading your comment, I definitely want to know which cafeterias and diners you go to. Honestly, if you're complaining about the bun, then burgers aren't your thing. It's the beef, and the freshness, and how it's cooked that counts.

                                                                                      A good burger can be eaten, no bun, no condiments, and no toppings and should be every bit as delicious as a steak. If you're comparing the Porterhouse's burger to the Kilt's you're obviosuly a much bigger fan of lettuce, tomato, and onion than you are of fresh chopped beef.

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                                                                                ueat Nov 29, 2007 08:08 PM

                                                                                * Margrills - Nanuet, NY
                                                                                November 30th, 2007

                                                                                This storefront restaurant is one of those places that restaurant professionals just can’t figure out. A disconnected décor package, no identity, virtually no hospitality and mediocre food, yet someone thought it was a good idea.

                                                                                The room is decorated quite oddly, decoupage butcher block tables, brown tile flooring opposite a standard dropped ceiling complete with harsh florescent light fixtures, wall hangings with no brand or theme connection, a shelf stacked with some board games next to boxes of tea bags, magazines near the front counter.

                                                                                I went there last might with my wife to try what we heard were “great burgers.” They were just good at best. Actually, my wife thought the 1/3 pound Angus Burger from McD’s was better. Marigrills burgers do not rank in the top twenty locally.

                                                                                So here’s the run down. Our burgers were not cooked as ordered; our fries were the frozen type, fried too dark and stuffed into a small plastic basket with the burger, the lettuce, tomatoes and pickles…..There was too much food for this size basket, making it difficult to eat. Because of the small basket, there was food spilling onto the table and no where to put the burger down between bites, especially if you have ketchup on the fries. I ended up with lot of ketchup on the outside of the bun and on my hands as a result. My wife resorted to pouring ketchup on a napkin so she could dip her fries without getting messy.

                                                                                The burger meat was OK, Angus for sure, but a lower quality. The toppings were disappointing, shredded lettuce that was a bit brown and the wrong type of tomato. My burger was topped with three slices of a Plum tomato. Either they ran out of Beefsteaks or the chef/cook thought it was somehow chic to serve a Roma/Plum on a burger. It did not work; plum tomatoes contain too much water and thereby made the bun very soggy. In addition the three small tomato slices on top did their very best to slide off my burger several times, alright, enough about the tomatoes. The onions rings were downright terrible. Not enough coating, fried at the improper temperature rendering them greasy and soft with no crispness.

                                                                                One bright spot, the Margrills spicy sauce was quite good but clearly had difficulty holding up against the “beefy” flavor of the char grilled patty. This sauce would probably work well with chicken, certainly it does not pare well with beef.

                                                                                Service was virtually non-existent. Two employees in street clothes made no effort to extend the WOW factor.

                                                                                My ticket time was in excess of 10 minutes, far too long for a quick casual place.

                                                                                We paid twenty-two dollars (with tip) for two cheeseburgers and two cans of Coke. I felt the value was lacking.

                                                                                If the food was better, I could get beyond the other disappointing components of this establishment.

                                                                                No recommendation from me either way. Margrills is just another non-descript store front eatery touting itself as the next “best” thing.

                                                                                I will say, since the menu contained more than burgers and appears to be quite varied, I will go back to give them a second chance. As of now, I can only comment on my first experience.

                                                                                On a scale of 1 to 10, it scores a 5

                                                                                http://www.marigrills.com/

                                                                                1. i_eat_a_lot_of_ice_cream Jan 26, 2008 10:28 AM

                                                                                  I just tried Squire's based on the recs on this post, and while I'm not sure it was the best burger I've ever had (I prefer my burgers a little thicker and juicier), it was really good, and the place itself is a real trip. Dark wood paneled wall, a huge wooden lobster hanging up, no-frills menu... I felt like I was in a small town far from Briarcliff. And it was pretty cheap too -- $7.95 with fries! I would definitely go back.

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                                                                                    dolores Jan 27, 2008 02:36 AM

                                                                                    i eat, Squire's and Blazer are my favorties.

                                                                                    Has Blazer reopened?

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                                                                                      csabo Sep 7, 2010 09:36 AM

                                                                                      A thicker burger than Squires?? It's like 2" thick. Your thinking of meatloaf....

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                                                                                      amirtirosh Feb 10, 2008 06:17 AM

                                                                                      Mango's on Main Street in Mt. Kisco. Mexican/Central American cuisine. Simple, tasty and very juicy burger. Inexpensive and great. Not a fancy gourmet experience, jsut a burger as it should be.

                                                                                      Ask for the Chipotle Mayo if you like spicy.

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                                                                                        jhopp217 Feb 14, 2008 11:17 AM

                                                                                        I'm biased because I'm from Eastchester and consider myself a regular, but to be honest, I eat there less than one would think. The reason...you could get very used to eating there every other night. The burgers are delicious because they sell so many, that the meat is very fresh. I prefer the bleu cheese burger, but all the burgers are good. The Eastchester Burger is great when you're in the mood to really chow down. Order it Broadway'ed, and it's even burger.

                                                                                        Props to Kelly's in Rye for having a great burger also. Aside from those two, the third best is probably Lazy Boy in WP. Although they classify this as a Kobe burger. Not sure of that, but it's pretty good.

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                                                                                          Dim Sum Diva Feb 15, 2008 05:11 AM

                                                                                          Beechmont Tavern, North Ave./Eastchester Rd. in New Rochelle. Shhh...don't tell anyone...they're half price on Wed. nights! They're big, too, lots of topping choices. My only complaint: no pickles.

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                                                                                          pobo Feb 15, 2008 08:59 AM

                                                                                          Blazer Pub reopened a week ago Monday - we are going there tonight for burgers - I'll let you know how it goes.

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                                                                                            pobo Feb 17, 2008 05:23 PM

                                                                                            Wow, Blazer Pub is fantastic! We shared a blooming onion, which we loved. We each ordered a cheeseburger with sauteed onions and a side of french fries. The burgers were each about a 1 inch thick and cooked as we requested (rare, which is rare!). My only quibble would be the bun, which could have been a bit more substantial to hold up to the perfectly flavorful, greasy burger. We didn't even touch the fries, and I ate half of my burger - looking forward to a reprise for lunch tomorrow.

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                                                                                              Zobot Feb 17, 2008 06:54 PM

                                                                                              Excellent news. We tossed around the idea of going up for dinner but ended up at Pat's Hubba Hubba instead...

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                                                                                                adamclyde Mar 1, 2008 03:05 AM

                                                                                                is that Pat's place any good? I've seen one in Stamford forever, but I've never gone. Worth it?

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                                                                                                  Zobot Mar 1, 2008 05:07 AM

                                                                                                  It's a no-frills joint with decent burgers, hot dogs, ice cream, and your standard assortment of "fried basket foods." It's not a greasy-spoon diner, but it's of that ilk.

                                                                                                  Clientèle range from teenagers looking for a place to hang out to senior citizens.

                                                                                                  I think it's probably similar to Colony in that a lot what makes Pat's special is that it is unique. You have to appreciate it for what it is and not just what food it serves.

                                                                                                  The original Hubba is in Port Chester, which still operates, but is no longer owned by Pat.

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                                                                                                shellyesq Feb 20, 2008 10:48 AM

                                                                                                I haven't been to the Blazer Pub in a while, but I preferred the hard rolls. Try them next time.

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                                                                                              jhopp217 Feb 29, 2008 06:59 PM

                                                                                              It's funny I had heard for years that the Cobble Stone in Purchase had great burgers. I went there a few months ago and was greatly disappointed. Nothing to me is more disturbing than getting a medium rare burger cooked medium rare and the meat being grey. The patty itself had almost no flavor. I usually use scant amounts of ketchup if any, and this I had to drown just to swallow. The service was excellent, and we had a child with some development issues with us and the waitress changed orders and didn't charge us on two occasions. The place was mobbed, so I assume it's usually better. I'd definitely give it another try.

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                                                                                                adamclyde Mar 1, 2008 03:06 AM

                                                                                                I've been there (though it's probably been 3 years) and found it good, but nothing special.

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                                                                                                  dolores Mar 1, 2008 04:17 AM

                                                                                                  Same here. Another place I've passed for years, but never gone in -- the Larchmont Tavern. How is their food?

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                                                                                                    valerie Mar 1, 2008 05:11 AM

                                                                                                    We have been to LT twice -- once for lunch and once for dinner. The first time (dinner) I had a burger with brie and sauteed onions. It was delicious. My husband had the burger with cheddar cheese stuffed in the middle. Also really good. The only complaint was that the bun to burger ratio was a little off -- the buns were way too big for the burgers. Not to say that the burgers were small, but the buns were huge.

                                                                                                    Second time at lunch, my husband had the same stuffed burger, but this time I had a "southwestern salad" (fine, nothing exciting). Not sure if it was a lunch thing or not, but this time the burger came on an english muffin.

                                                                                                    Fries were good both times. LT gets very crowded. Since we have small kids, we got there at 5:45 for dinner and were seated right away, but the place filled up very quickly and although there's a bar, there's not a lot of room to wait for a table. For lunch, we got there at around 12:45 on a Saturday, and the place was packed. And just be warned, packed with lots of families with kids.

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                                                                                                      pobo Mar 1, 2008 01:28 PM

                                                                                                      Dolores and Valerie, I have been to LT more times than I can count (grew up in Larchmont, it was the place to go for a casual bite). They were not known for their burgers (go to Sherwoods, although the ribs and fried chicken are great there) but for their roast beef wedge. I think now they are better known for meatballs, etc. I love the murphy, which is basically a meatloaf sandwich. Salads, etc. are pretty standard. I go there more for nostalgia than anything else.

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                                                                                                        dolores Mar 1, 2008 01:38 PM

                                                                                                        pobo, where is Sherwoods?

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                                                                                                          pobo Mar 2, 2008 07:57 AM

                                                                                                          Sherwoods is on the Boston Post Road, across the street from the police station. Park in the back (free parking!) there is a lot at the end of the dead end street coming from Larchmont Ave. It's a real local place, good, cheap, food. They are known for their ribs, which are fabulous, but the burgers are also good. However, I always seem to order the fried chicken, which I love (and bring half of it home for lunch the next day).

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                                                                                                            dolores Mar 2, 2008 09:12 AM

                                                                                                            Fried chicken and ribs and good burgers, right in my (almost) back yard?

                                                                                                            Thanks, pobo, another one for my 'must try' list!

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                                                                                                              shellyesq Mar 2, 2008 10:41 AM

                                                                                                              I only had a burger once at Sherwood's, but I wasn't really wowed. I'm not a rib eater, but my husband swears they have the best ribs ever. The tollhouse cookie pie is worth a visit alone, in my opinion. My advice - either show up when they first open (5 PM, I believe, at least on the weekend) or go in the 8-9PM range of after. Otherwise, you'll be waiting. They will do take-out, though.

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                                                                                                          valerie Mar 1, 2008 03:15 PM

                                                                                                          Pobo, I forgot that the time we were there for dinner, I ordered the meatballs for my kids, along with macaroni & cheese. Both the meatballs and the mac & cheese were very good. And both times I saw a lot of people eating the roast beef sandwich, and while it looked good, it's just not my thing.

                                                                                                          In a way, I like how the LT burgers aren't monsterous. More than enough, certainly, but not gigantic.

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                                                                                                  Foodie200 Mar 21, 2009 03:56 PM

                                                                                                  piper's kilt makes a good burger
                                                                                                  that being said, it's totally unspectacular and nothing like the blazer burger or even squires

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                                                                                                    wincountrygirl Mar 23, 2009 11:31 AM

                                                                                                    Good grief, if it's less spectacular than the Blazer it must be a REAL dive, LOL

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                                                                                                    mary30 Mar 21, 2009 04:26 PM

                                                                                                    BarCar Eatery in Mount Vernon and Route 100 in Yonkers both have an AMAZING black angus burger and excellent fries.

                                                                                                    1. CCSPRINGS Mar 23, 2009 05:38 PM

                                                                                                      Perhaps a bit far, but Bay Burger in Sag Harbor. The fries are on par! You can also get a turkey, veggie or striped bass burger. Ice cream is home made. They have live music in the summer.

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                                                                                                      1742 Sag Harbor Tpke, Sag Harbor, NY

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                                                                                                        Jon1856 Mar 26, 2009 10:57 AM

                                                                                                        Some more about Burgers from Westchester Magazine:
                                                                                                        Burger Wars, Battle: Bar
                                                                                                        http://www.westchestermagazine.com/Blogs/Eater/March-2009/Burger-Wars-Battle-Bar/
                                                                                                        Director’s Cut: Burger Meister
                                                                                                        Dare we? Dare we? Yup—we’re going there. We’re going to discuss our favorite local burger.
                                                                                                        http://www.westchestermagazine.com/Bl...

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                                                                                                          nixomose May 28, 2009 09:39 AM

                                                                                                          Last night I went to piper's kilt because it was reported to be the best burger in town. Unfortunately, eastchester isn't a very big town and doesn't have much competition, methinks.
                                                                                                          In westchester so far, the best burger I've found is at the cobblestone. It's not 100% idea all the time, but is usually well well above average. So it's possible I caught piper's kilt on a bad night, but I figure their place opened in 1965, and the cobblestone opened 30-40 years before that, so they've got 30-40 years more carbon on their grill than piper's kilt does.

                                                                                                          The absolute best burger I ever had in my life unfortunately I don't remember the name of the place, but it was in england, in the pennines. I was on a motorcycle tour through the pennines and we stopped at some small restaurant all by itself, and I don't know what they did, but it was an amazing burger. I even asked for sauteed onions which I normally hate, because they were so good too.

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                                                                                                            jhopp217 Jun 2, 2009 06:53 AM

                                                                                                            Nix. I won't lie, I'm a regular at Piper's Kilt, so I am a little biased, but it is a very good burger. I haven't tasted a better one in Westchester for under $10. Sure you can get a gourment burger somewhere that is better, but just meat and maybe cheese, the Kilt can't be beat. Many people don't like the bun or the fries, but to me that isn't what the best burger is about. to me it's about the patty. I like mine medium/rare-rare. I want it pink in the middle, maybe even cool. They cook it perfectly 95% f the time, which is a feat when you consider how many the push out in a day.

                                                                                                            I have been to the Cobblestone twice and was told they blow the Kilt away. Both times I ordered medium rare on the rare side. Both tmes the burger came out medium well. I can deal with it if the quality of the meat is great. It wasn't. The meat was completely grey which is from age or freezer burn. The patty itself had no taste at all and I had to drown it in ketchup.

                                                                                                            Best Burger I've had in the past 6 months was at Jake's Steakhouse in Riverdale. Cost about $18, but wel worth it. Enormous, juicy, quality meat and perfectly cooked. Give it a try!

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                                                                                                              adamclyde Jun 2, 2009 09:33 AM

                                                                                                              I had a good, but not great burger at Piper's Kilt a few months ago. Sadly, I ordered it medium, and it came as medium rare/well done. Just the smallest hint of pink... Real bummer.

                                                                                                              I went to Cobblestone, but it's been quite some time. I need to go back as I really don't remember it at all.

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                                                                                                                Scott_R Jun 3, 2009 05:49 AM

                                                                                                                I'm puzzled by your description. Doneness is, in order from least to most:
                                                                                                                Rare, Medium Rare, Medium, Medium Well, Well done.
                                                                                                                You say you ordered it medium (literally the middle stage), and somehow it came not only one stage less than that in doneness (medium rare, one step up from rare), but two stages above, also? (well done, the most cooked).

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                                                                                                                  adamclyde Jun 3, 2009 08:32 AM

                                                                                                                  sorry, let me rephrase. there was no pink, except for a tiny, itsy bit I could see at the very, very middle comprising probably one milimeter. That's not medium. nor is it medium well. It's well done. I don't like having to order two stages rarer to get to what I'm hoping for - a medium burger.

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                                                                                                                    jhopp217 Jun 3, 2009 09:42 AM

                                                                                                                    I can tell you from literally hundreds of burgers, and sitting next to thousands of customers over the last 10 years. This is the exception to the rule. All I can say is that you got the wrong burger. Literally 19 out of 20 times, or better, it's cooked perfectly.

                                                                                                                    A place I like the food at which will remain nameless has good burgers but I have had it properly cooked possibly once out of every five times there. This to me, sadly, seems to be the norm.

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                                                                                                                      adamclyde Jun 3, 2009 03:21 PM

                                                                                                                      good to hear it and glad you've had good experiences there. too bad mine wasn't.

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                                                                                                                        CTburgerlover Sep 30, 2009 08:06 AM

                                                                                                                        I share your sentiment adamclyde. The Kilt used to be my favorite outside of NYC, and I'm growing increasingly frustrated with the recent inconsistency. Sometimes (when it's less busy) it's in the Top 5 of any burger I have ever had. Other times, it's simply disappointing, meaning, overcooked and just not "special".

                                                                                                                        The one thing about Piper's Kilt that is consistent in recent experience is the poor service. The waitresses are apathetic at best, and they always screw up at least something every time I've gone. This past time, they forgot our apps, overcooked the burgers (Ordered medium-rare, came out medium well), and forgot the fried onions on my wife's burger. While in the past the quality of the food could outweigh the lack of service, it's just been too hit-or-miss recently.

                                                                                                                        It will be a while before we are back.

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                                                                                                            RONNIENJ4 Jun 3, 2009 12:33 PM

                                                                                                            The burgers and fries at the 101 Pub in Bogota, NJ are very good.

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                                                                                                              se2karr Oct 6, 2009 09:59 AM

                                                                                                              I too vote for the 101 Pub for best burger - the Bortie Burger is huge and has mushrooms, onions and bacon and is always cooked perfectly, fries good too. Franklin Steakhouse in Nutley another amazing burger.

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                                                                                                              jtimson Jun 3, 2009 12:48 PM

                                                                                                              Trinity Bar & Grill
                                                                                                              79 Purdy St, Harrison, NY
                                                                                                              Tel: (914) 835-5920

                                                                                                              Great Angus burger...and a very nice restaurant too. I think it was $ 10.95 w/fries the last time I was there.

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                                                                                                                jhopp217 Jun 3, 2009 01:15 PM

                                                                                                                I used to hang out there years ago when I knew one of the bartenders. The food was great, but I don't remember ever having a burger there. Might have to try it again. Is it stll the same owners? The name escapes me.

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                                                                                                                  foodismylife Jul 28, 2009 12:27 PM

                                                                                                                  just went to the new elevation burger at 367 bloomfield ave in montyclair
                                                                                                                  it is basically an in n out burger writ organic and gourmet
                                                                                                                  fries in olive oil shakes malts and floats with blue bunny ice cream, not a freezer in the place and a super veggie burger

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                                                                                                                Morris Diner Jul 28, 2009 12:52 PM

                                                                                                                Little Chowhound, I have one for you. I have been to many of the places listed so far, but this is hot off the press:

                                                                                                                Went to BOOM in Belmar today and was blown away. Maybe the best burger I've had + in a clean, restaurant-like setting near the ocean. A wide counter for shakes...it's a high end soda shop feel. We started with beer battered onion rings that were phenomenal - they'll make you forget french fries.

                                                                                                                I recently tested the so-called "best burger in NJ" at Copelands in Morristown, but the Boom burger far surpassed it....the $8 vs $20 cost doesn't hurt either.

                                                                                                                And White Manna? I'll give them some "old-school" points for the setting, but anyone who's waited in that line will tell you no burger is worth it.

                                                                                                                When down the shore, go try BOOM

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                                                                                                                  fourunder Jul 30, 2009 06:43 AM

                                                                                                                  And White Manna? I'll give them some "old-school" points for the setting, but anyone who's waited in that line will tell you no burger is worth it.
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                                                                                                                  Are we talking about Jersey City or Hackensack. Both places are vastly different in their burgers and fries........plus it depends how long the line or wait is. Fifteen minutes.....no big deal. More than that....I could say the same about any restaurant on the planet as well....if I were hungry.

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                                                                                                                    Morris Diner Jul 31, 2009 09:06 AM

                                                                                                                    hackensack.
                                                                                                                    to be fair, went on a weekend (probably a mistake) with brother in law - took 45 minutes for first bite...we had traveled too far to turn back. I'm just not a fan of that whole "having to figure out the process" ordering thing some places have.

                                                                                                                    on a positive note, went back to Boom for a lamb burger which I'd since heard was their specialty...absoutely amazing. and their chocolate milkshake was perhaps the best I'd ever had (McCool's in Madison holds the NJ Monthly shake crown. but you can't lead it with a burger!).

                                                                                                                    you know a place is good when you can't stop thinking about the food the next day

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                                                                                                                  Steve71 Aug 21, 2009 10:21 AM

                                                                                                                  I agree with many others about Piper's Kilt in Eastchester: it's the gold standard for me, having grown up one town over.

                                                                                                                  The only other place that I would even mention in the same sentence is PLAN B in Simsbury, CT (northwest of Hartford). I think they have locations in West Hartford and Glastonbury as well. The burger is excellent quality, loosely packed, and juicy. Their buns are made for them by a local bakery I am told, and the parmesan fries are awesome.

                                                                                                                  This may even surpass Piper's Kilt for me now. Tough call.

                                                                                                                  I hear that the burger at Napa & Co in Stamford is excellent- that is going to be the next contender for the title.

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                                                                                                                    gillyweed Aug 27, 2009 11:48 AM

                                                                                                                    The burger at Napa really is excellent. I never though I'd pay so much for a burger ($26), but somehow it seems worth it. The proportions of all the ingredients are perfect, with no one component overwhelming the other. And the fries that come with it also rank up there as some of the best I've ever had.

                                                                                                                    I think I may have to head over there tonight now that you've got me thinking about it!

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                                                                                                                    cpeterson729 Aug 27, 2009 07:40 AM

                                                                                                                    Red Rooster in Brewster is really great....very retro, classic burgers and ambiance with outdoor dining area

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                                                                                                                      Tommy Salami Aug 27, 2009 10:25 AM

                                                                                                                      If you consider Newark "north" enough, I highly recommend Krug's Tavern in Ironbound. $6 for a 3/4 burger steamed on the grill. It's divey but friendly, been there since the 30's and still serving good food. Owners are related to Jake LaMotta of "raging Bull" fame.

                                                                                                                      The standard around here is the Cloverleaf Tavern in Caldwell. Nice, juicy burger- not knock your socks off but much better than tightly packed diner fare. Steve's Sizzling Steaks on Rt 17 in Carlstadt makes a good Blaze Burger too. I have photos and full reviews in my profile link. But here's one of Krug's:

                                                                                                                       
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                                                                                                                        ELerner Sep 18, 2009 10:25 AM

                                                                                                                        I haven't seen it mentioned yet, but if you're in the Croton-on-Hudson/Cortland area an expanded bar called "Justin Thyme Cafe" has a really nice burger and a HUGE menu of all sorts as well as a good beer (bottled and tap) selection. It's a wood floor, very low key place. A nice house salad, two pints and a burger always put a smile on my face.

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                                                                                                                          ELerner Sep 29, 2009 05:39 PM

                                                                                                                          Just got back from the new Johnny Rockets in Mount Kisco. If you have kids, it's fun to take them there...as long as you won't be upset if you get a lousy burger. Bun was too doughy, beef was tasteless, lifeless and well done. And until they get the kinks worked out, even if I had asked to have my burger cooked med-rare (my kids distracted me when I ordered, need to sell them soon) I doubt my request would have been fulfilled. A 5 on a scale of 1 to 10 (and the shake helped out on the score)

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                                                                                                                            apples Sep 30, 2009 08:52 AM

                                                                                                                            where is this exactly located...

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                                                                                                                              jhopp217 Oct 1, 2009 05:13 PM

                                                                                                                              Need to sell them...love it!

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                                                                                                                              ronhall51 Sep 29, 2009 06:50 PM

                                                                                                                              dont even know the name of the place but its directly across from sals in mamaroneck its a take out place.But one of the best hamburgers i ever had.great hard roll buns perfect char and a good quality meat

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                                                                                                                                jhopp217 Oct 1, 2009 05:13 PM

                                                                                                                                Ronhall51, someone told me they had a great burger there too and they didn't remember thename. Sounds like I might have to go for a ride this weekend on a rainy Saturday!

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                                                                                                                                  laylag Oct 5, 2009 06:50 AM

                                                                                                                                  Are you talking about Garden Catering? It's a take out.

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                                                                                                                                    ronhall51 Oct 5, 2009 09:55 AM

                                                                                                                                    yup that sounds like it !! its a take out place with a counter as you walk in to order from

                                                                                                                                    thanks!!!

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                                                                                                                                  jhopp217 Oct 1, 2009 05:15 PM

                                                                                                                                  So ltttle chowhound, two and half years later. Where are you going for burgers?

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                                                                                                                                    JanRan Oct 2, 2009 08:07 PM

                                                                                                                                    No one's mentioned the Cabin in Valhalla. I think they make a great burger...and love their salted truffled fries. Also recently had a burger at Sutter's off the Thruway in Rockland (Airmont Road). Very good.

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                                                                                                                                      demifast Nov 25, 2009 09:05 AM

                                                                                                                                      Truffled fries are an individual thing. I think they taste (and smell) awful. And that's the only french fries they offer on the menu.

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                                                                                                                                      ninnikuramen Oct 7, 2009 06:53 PM

                                                                                                                                      I'm surprised that Lazy Boy in WP was only mentioned once in passing - while it is not the best burger I've ever had, it was really good, and the variety of burgers they offer is great.

                                                                                                                                      The best burger I've had was from Rare in the city (I think it was a $30 burger though) - Shake Shack, Burger Joint, Five Guys, and Good Burger are all good for a fix, not sure if any of them have tristate outposts ?

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                                                                                                                                        jhopp217 Nov 30, 2009 10:09 AM

                                                                                                                                        Just interested in knowing when the last time you had a burger at Lazy Boy. I useed to be somewhat of a regular and loved their food. Last two times I was there it was a huge disappointment. Haven't been back since last summer. Had the Kobe Beef burger and maybe the guy making it wore a Kobe Bryant jersey, but this was far from good beef. And way overcooked. I can sometimes look past a sub par burger, but not when it's overcooked also.

                                                                                                                                        I've also heard terrible things about Five Guys, but I have also heard it's somewhat of an acquired thing with them. You either love it or hate it...no gray area.

                                                                                                                                        If you want a pricey but delicious burger, try Jake's Steakhouse in Riverdale. Not sure if it was $15 or $18, but a nice 10oz burger. Frizzled onions, and gorgonzola on mine. Fantastic. I'm a Piper's Kilt guy, but for the extra dollar, this was the best burger I've eaten in a long time.

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                                                                                                                                          shark_attack Dec 1, 2009 06:03 PM

                                                                                                                                          What terrible things have you heard about 5 guys? I live in Westport so I'm interested.

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                                                                                                                                            Scott_R Dec 1, 2009 06:40 PM

                                                                                                                                            I don't know what jhopp217 has heard, but I've been to 5G and found the burger tasteless.

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                                                                                                                                              louuuuu Dec 2, 2009 04:40 AM

                                                                                                                                              Limiting 5G to the fast food category, it's better than the competition, in fact outs In and Out.

                                                                                                                                              But no match for places like Burger Shakes and Fries or Cherry Street East, where I finally had their burger yesterday. Like BSF, perfect medium rare. And the flame char was also perfection. A little too much bun would be my only criticism Great clubhouse! And though packed for lunch, the service was terrific. Being first timers the manager gave us a free "pop" (drink) our next visit...which will be soon...and then I'll try my burger on an English Muffin.

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                                                                                                                                                jfood Dec 2, 2009 05:00 AM

                                                                                                                                                CSE is a great little find off the beaten path from the hegdish of downtown NC.

                                                                                                                                                Glad you enjoyed.

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                                                                                                                                                  adamclyde Dec 2, 2009 08:19 AM

                                                                                                                                                  wow, it outs In-N-Out? As a California boy, I'm intrigued now. Never been to a 5G...

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                                                                                                                                                    jfood Dec 2, 2009 08:41 AM

                                                                                                                                                    great fries

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                                                                                                                                                      cavandre Dec 2, 2009 12:58 PM

                                                                                                                                                      Fries vary by location...went to one in FL where the guy on the fryer got way ahead of the people cooking/putting together the burgers. As a result, our fries sat way too long ithe styrofoam cup before they were served to us, resulting in more than somewhat soggy fries.

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                                                                                                                                                      louuuuu Dec 2, 2009 01:19 PM

                                                                                                                                                      Adam, I hope I haven't misled you about 5G . Knowing how fanatical my west coast buddies are about In/Out., I hunch you will be dissappointed. As for me, I've given Innies numerous tries when I'm in LA or Vegas, but have never seen the light. I know I'm in a distinct minority! I grew up on Big Boy -- and stop in to the Burbank location every trip. Also love "those potatoes" at Hamburger Haven..

                                                                                                                                                      Find myself in the odd posiion of touting 56 -- which I really think are over hyped and not in the same class as other Ct burgers.

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                                                                                                                                                      Scott_R Dec 2, 2009 12:30 PM

                                                                                                                                                      By coincidence, I went with a friend to Burger 9.5 in Merrick today. We both greatly enjoyed our lunches.

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                                                                                                                                              Foster's Grill on Smithtown Blvd in Nesconset has an excellent low priced burger.

                                                                                                                                              Search on the web for a 50% off coupon on the second burger. Their price includes a drink and fries.

                                                                                                                                              ~Fred19

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                                                                                                                                                rich51 Nov 25, 2009 06:53 PM

                                                                                                                                                has anyone tried schnippers, down by the bus depot, by time square? i thought it was very good, but i was so hungry at the time it is hard to tell, but i definitely enjoyed it

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                                                                                                                                                  agnesrob Dec 3, 2009 03:06 AM

                                                                                                                                                  Fire & Oak located in the Courtyard by Marriot in Montvale,NJ does a very nice burger.

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                                                                                                                                                    b00mer08 Dec 11, 2009 05:34 AM

                                                                                                                                                    HAS ANYONE HAD A BURGER AT THE TAP HOUSE IN TUCKAHOE??? I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW IF IT'S WORTH A VISIT AT ALL. PLEASE REPLY...

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                                                                                                                                                      shark_attack Dec 15, 2009 09:28 AM

                                                                                                                                                      As a confirmed burgerhound myself, I have to weigh in and state that not only does the Black Duck have burgers that edge out the local competition (Burger Bar and Cherrystreet, by a nosehair) but also that the post-diners crowd seems to be thinning, Maybe they've discovered that The Duck REALLY IS a dive, and their dressed up wives and kids are not quite comfy around the Harley riding black t-shirt crowd. Or perhaps, the parking and table-prcuring issues are taking their toll. Perhaps, the novelty has worn off. Whatever the reason, I am pleased to announce I am now typically to be found at the bar, quaffing down a Heineken (why no Becks at The Duck?) and a bigger cheeseburger, bacon, American, fries well done.

                                                                                                                                                      I like Cherrystreet quite a lot also, just the Duck makes a slightly tastier burger. Whether that's the meat, the flames, the fact the guy just dropped it on the floor, I have no idea:)

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                                                                                                                                                        BridgetC Dec 15, 2009 10:17 AM

                                                                                                                                                        So where is the Black Duck? I want to check it out.

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                                                                                                                                                        nrfoodie Dec 17, 2009 10:11 AM

                                                                                                                                                        I actualyl love the taphouse.....the burgers are decent not great.....to me the problem is the bread. Its too good!! Too hearty! I love bread but burgers are about the meat. Taphouse is definitley solid but could be better!

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                                                                                                                                                        gtmag Dec 16, 2009 09:25 AM

                                                                                                                                                        The bike weaves between traffic on Middle Country Road, the rider looks about apprehensively. Was he followed? The Iron Chef is on the side of 347 behind a clump of bushes. The messenger approaches him and hands off a package. His assignment? To capture the burger population of Long Island.
                                                                                                                                                        Ok burger fans, are you ready for an old fashioned throw down?
                                                                                                                                                        Followers of Iron Chef Bobby Flay know his m.o. well. He has serious restaurants in Manhattan, and is a staple on the popular Food Network, including Boy Meets Grill and Throwdown, where he goes into a town and tries to outdo the reigning sheriff in whatever field, steaks, cupcakes, chili, Philly cheese steaks. Sometimes he wins and sometimes he loses. How did he do here on Long Island with his Bobby’s Burger Palace? You’ll find out!
                                                                                                                                                        The Challengers: Burger 9 Point 5, Merrick: This place is a small storefront on a main street but offers up some big time treats. Appetizers include the usual suspects like wings and tenders, but how about something a little different, like homemade Guacamole served with tortilla chips. Or thick cut Black and Tan Beer battered Onion Rings. These bad boys are delicious and plentiful. And who could pass up an appetizer called “ZOP”…battered fried zucchini, buttermilk onion rings and cheddar filled jalapeno poppers served with 3 dipping sauces.
                                                                                                                                                        Ok, ok, enough of the small talk…on to the beef. The burgers are big time, enough for any challenger to take the gold cup. The original is a mammoth 9.5 ounces, oozing juices and cooked perfect. Or perhaps you want to try the Rodeo, with bbq sauce, melted cheddar cheese and onion rings. Want to go ethnic? Try the Chad with melted gorgonzola cheese and spicy buffalo wing sauce.
                                                                                                                                                        Make no mistake about it, Burger 9 Point 5 knows how to serve up a good meal and good prices. Great selection of food , and if you drop in for lunch, a combo is only $5.99 and includes burger, choice of fries, knish or corn and a fountain beverage. Watch out Bobby, this place is breathing down your neck.
                                                                                                                                                        Burger 9 Poin t5 is located at 139B Merrick Ave, Merrick. (516) 543-4141; burger9point5.net.
                                                                                                                                                        Johnny Rockets, Roosevelt Field Mall; Broadway Mall and Tanger Outlets, Deer Park: Johnny Rockets is an International restaurant chain that recreates the old style ice cream parlor/luncheonette complete with faux old advertising signs, a slick décor and lots of fun for all.
                                                                                                                                                        We sampled the Tanger Deer Park location on a recent Friday, and the place was packed with moms and their kids and local workers from the area stores. We got there just as the staff was doing a little show tune number, an event that seems to happen on the half hour. Great for casual entertainment and it seemed to be enjoyed by both the young kids and the seniors.
                                                                                                                                                        Johnny Rockets has about 15 burgers on the menu, including the Smoke House Double which is two patties, cheddar cheese, thick bacon, onion rings, and smokehouse sauce for $9.59. Or the popular #12, which includes cheddar, lettuce, onion slice, pickle, mayo and a tangy red sauce.
                                                                                                                                                        We tried the Smoke House single, ordered it medium, got it a bit more well than we like but it still was flavorful burger and well worth the $7.49 which includes fries.
                                                                                                                                                        Ah yes, the fries……sometimes you have to wonder what goes on in the minds of the boys back at International headquarters who put this concept together. Give the customer fun surroundings, whimsical entertainment, a decent burger and shake or malt and then screw up the fries BIG TIME. The fries are so bad, they go beyond description. As soon as I walked in and saw the white fries on customers’ plates, I knew. Think Waldbaum’s frozen fries and you’ll have the Johnny Rockets fries. Why?
                                                                                                                                                        For more information and locations on Johnny Rockets go to johnnyrockets.com.
                                                                                                                                                        And now, on to the titular champion (by reputation at least) …
                                                                                                                                                        Bobby’s Burger Palace, Smith Haven Mall, Lake Grove: Bobby Flay is a super cool guy who has a great TV personae, fun to watch, witty, humble at times, and extremely talented. The question then is, how did the Iron Chef mess up so bad?
                                                                                                                                                        I had waited to go to the Burger Palace after Newsday wrote that the fries were frozen and several blogs reported uneven dining. Finally, the time seemed right, the fries had been re-invented. I wish the rest of the Palace had been.
                                                                                                                                                        It would seem that someone with Bobby Flay’s experience and financial backing would put together a dining experience that was truly fun. Burgers, like BBQ is all about having fun, burgers are the ultimate comfort food.
                                                                                                                                                        The Burger Palace is the most sterile restaurant I’ve been in for a long time. Think Jetsons-like décor with very modern lines and colors, and nearly barren walls….nothing to look at, nothing to drool over, just orange and avocado walls and counters and walls and counters. Well, nearly nothing. If you consider huge pieces of artwork of two strips of bacon or avocados exciting, this is your place.
                                                                                                                                                        You place your order when you enter, take a seat, and the food is brought to your table. At 6:45 on a Tuesday night, dinner time, there were 6 customers in the place. It stayed that way for most of the time I was there.
                                                                                                                                                        I had this month’s special, the Cheyenne Burger, with smoked cheddar, onion strings (very aptly named) and bacon strips. When the burger arrived, I had to check under the cheese to make sure it was really there. It probably was about 4 ounces, maybe 5. The burger was very tasty, the strings were miniscule, one big fat onion ring would have been preferred, and the bacon was rubbery.
                                                                                                                                                        The fries were home made and delicious, but would have enjoyed the accompanying dipping sauce more if half the fries had not been little stubs, hard for dipping without dipping your finger as well.
                                                                                                                                                        Other burger choices include the Dallas Burger, spice crusted with coleslaw, jack cheese, bbq sauce and pickles and the Miami Burger, pressed with ham, Swiss cheese , pickles, mustard and mayo.
                                                                                                                                                        On each table is a rack of sauces including jalapeno hot sauce, burger sauce, yellow mustard. Whoa…..yellow mustard on gourmet burgers? Has the Iron Chef not heard of mustard with horseradish or even spicy brown? These would have been a better choice.
                                                                                                                                                        As I finished my burger, I lusted after the burger I had recently at Fatty Beltbuckles. a monster , dripping juice, overflowing from the bun. I ordered it at a BBQ joint because the guy next to me had one and I had to have one too. It looked that good.
                                                                                                                                                        The fountain selection is unbelievably pedestrian…Coke, diet Coke, Sprite, Fresca, Coke Zero, Cherry Coke. Wow, the Coke salesman must have made a score here. Hey Bobby, how about wondering over to the competition for some inspiration. At Five Guys you can get Dr. Pepper, Birch Beer, Orange (what restaurant doesn’t carry orange?), Fruit Punch for the little guys. Sure you can buy a bottled Boylan’s but are they re-fillable?
                                                                                                                                                        The burger was $7.50, the fries $2.50 and the Boylan $2.50. It came to $13.50 for a burger meal. Way too much for what you got.
                                                                                                                                                        Hey Bobby, come out to my neck of the woods sometime and I’ll take you right up the road from your place to the Good Steer, where the burgers are nirvana.
                                                                                                                                                        Or even better, maybe I can get a couple of the local guys together and we can head over to your place for a Throwdown.
                                                                                                                                                        Bobby’s Burger Palace is located at the entrance at 355 Smith Haven Mall, Lake Grove; (631) 382-9590; bobbysburgerpalace.com.

                                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                         
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                                                                                                                                                          fourunder Dec 16, 2009 09:28 AM

                                                                                                                                                          my head just exploded.

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                                                                                                                                                            jfood Dec 16, 2009 09:43 AM

                                                                                                                                                            Was it good?

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                                                                                                                                                              shark_attack Dec 17, 2009 09:55 AM

                                                                                                                                                              Black duck is exit 17 off of I-95 head toward Tuttis, take a right at the light then a quick left at the marina.

                                                                                                                                                              On a happier note, I just got back from a burger-lunch at Cherrystreet East.

                                                                                                                                                              The burger was enormous, delicious, cooked exactly as ordered, fries perfect, overall a 9 out of 10 on the 'ole burger scale-o-meter. The room, the staff, the vibe of the place all excellent.

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                                                                                                                                                                jfood Dec 17, 2009 10:03 AM

                                                                                                                                                                You were within a 9-iron and a 3-wood of two of the best places to buy steaks. Food Emporium in NC dry ages their own and Scotts Corner has the best regular steaks. Both are way better than the crap you buy at you know where (see a recent prime rib post).

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                                                                                                                                                                Fred19 Jan 4, 2010 12:49 PM

                                                                                                                                                                I ate at Bobby Flay's once. The burger comes out very hot and self cooks. When it came out well done after a medium-rare order, I sent it back and ordered it very-rare. It came out medium and as I watched it , it self destructed to well done. If this is how you like your burgers, this is the place, but if you like a little pink or red in them, pick any pub at random and you will do better. Definitely not as pricey, either. This place is more towards a throw-up than a throw-down.

                                                                                                                                                                ~Fred19

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                                                                                                                                                                  Scott_R Jan 4, 2010 02:26 PM

                                                                                                                                                                  I've never eaten at Bobby Flay's so can't comment about the burgers there, but I don't understand this statement. ALL burgers self-cook to some extent; none would have a hotter internal temperature, for a given doneness, than another. Medium rare is, by definition, cooked to a 145 degrees F internal temperature; a burger cooked to that temperature at one location won't be any hotter than one cooked to that temperature elsewhere, and will continue to cook to the same extent until eaten.

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                                                                                                                                                                    JMF Jan 13, 2010 08:37 AM

                                                                                                                                                                    not true, depending upon temperature and way it was cooked at you can have lots, or very little residual cooking.

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                                                                                                                                                                    kelvin8r Jan 13, 2010 06:28 AM

                                                                                                                                                                    Once was enough for me as well. Run of the mill burgers, frozen fries, goofy "Santa Fe" sauces, potato chips under the bun (!WTF!) and off the chart prices branded Flay onto my "never again" list.

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                                                                                                                                                                RoleModel Dec 17, 2009 05:06 PM

                                                                                                                                                                I had Frank N' Burger on Middle Country Rd. (Rte. 25/Jericho Tpke.) in St. James today. Burger is cooked medium-rare and seasoned with garlic and pepper and there's a helluva a lot of customization you can do with your burger. Plus, they have great waffle fries and the price is reasonable (under $10).

                                                                                                                                                                If you like hot dogs, they also have the Frank N' Dog with ketchup, mustard, pink sauce, sauteed onions, ham, pineapple, mozzarella and crushed potato chips. They also have smoothies but I haven't had them yet.

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                                                                                                                                                                  shark_attack Dec 22, 2009 07:03 PM

                                                                                                                                                                  A quick note about the Black Duck,

                                                                                                                                                                  As I have noted in the past, "The Duck" is, historically at least, kind of a hard-drinking type of joint. It is this fact that places my experience there today in it's proper context.

                                                                                                                                                                  I live about 2 minutes from "The Duck", and was a fairly regular customer there for years before the TV show; their burgers are superior to any others within miles, and are either almost as good as or occasionally even better than Cherrystreet East, I'm not sure which. Which is not to say that I have not felt at odds with the place.

                                                                                                                                                                  Often in the past I have felt institutional pressure, shall we call it, to order alcohol. Now let me state plainly that I drink, I drink quite a bit, usually a great Spanish Granache (anyone tried the Alto Moncayo at Zachy's, it is UN-believable) but it is the case that often, when going to The Duck for lunch, particularly, I do not order alcohol. Hey, there's only so much booze one poor liver can take, and anyway, even when I am drinking, I usually don't start at noon.

                                                                                                                                                                  So what I'm saying is, in the past I have received looks, a bit of an attitude, if you will, from the big waitress who looks a little like a bleached Wookie, upon my declining her offer to buy booze. It's kind of a quick look away, grab the menus, take off toward the kitchen very businesslike, and I live with it. Today took the thing a step beyond.

                                                                                                                                                                  I walked in at 11.50 am and of the 20 bar seats, 2 were taken, and I sat at a third. The big bartender/waiter who looks like something out of a Popeye cartoon (Bluto?) came over and asked "What are ya drinking" while flinging a coaster at me.

                                                                                                                                                                  "Coffee....and a menu" I responded. And I swear to God, the guy said "Coffee?" in kind of a questioning, weak and frankly, derogatory tone. Now understand, this guy looks like he's on a prison work release program. He looks like his mother used to drink lighter fluid when he was in eutero. So I kind of rolled with it, and ordered a cheeseburger.

                                                                                                                                                                  Then things got interesting. The owner, a portly guy named Aiken was sitting a few seats to my left, and I began to realize what was going on. There was a party of 20-25 people from town here having a company lunch and no one was ordering booze. They were at work, and didn't want to look like a bunch of alcoholics in front of the boss. The economy, it's THAT bad. So, he asked her to recite the beverage ordered by each of the 20 or so people and she reeled off a list....Diet coke...coffee...etc.....

                                                                                                                                                                  Then 2 guys walked in and sat next to me and ordered soda's and lunch.

                                                                                                                                                                  Ok. To wrap this up, I get that when you own a good burger joint it is critical for your business model that people order drinks. I get that. But not at every meal...People eating at noon on a workday should not be made to feel like trash because they don't want to start drinking. Bartenders should be trained to be nice and respectful no matter who walks in and sits at the bar and no matter what they order, within reason.

                                                                                                                                                                  As I intimated above, I saw evidence today that the pressure to sell drinks is institutional in nature and best explains the behavior of the waitstaff who are merely caught in the middle between reality, on the one hand, and an unrealistic boss who thinks that people's ordering behavior can be manipulated by a crew that probably couldn't get hired at McDonalds.

                                                                                                                                                                  Maybe today was just an abberation...a pre-Christmas burst of sobriety, saving liver-space for later in the week when the grind of forced gratitude and too much time with relatives drives everyone into an alcoholic stupor...

                                                                                                                                                                  Oh and by the way...the cheeseburger was excellent, and I gave the guy a much bigger tip than he deserved. I just didn't want to wait for change.

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                                                                                                                                                                    jfood Dec 23, 2009 02:51 AM

                                                                                                                                                                    welcome to the world of proofless bar eating, always an interesting look. But anybody can do it at lunch, the real test is later in the day. Try going to a bar, sitting at the bar, and order a cheeseburger fries and a diet rootbeer. That's an interesting set of glances.

                                                                                                                                                                    Happy holidays to you and the minnows.

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                                                                                                                                                                  wookiedoodle Jan 9, 2010 05:39 AM

                                                                                                                                                                  By no means do I suggest it's the best in the area - but I have to give City Limits in Stamford major props for its burger. I had one for the first time in years the other night. It was cooked perfectly, juicy and flavorful. The right amount of juice soaked the bottom of the bun, making for a delicious burst of flavor as I bit into it. The accompanying fries were pretty darn good.

                                                                                                                                                                  It was not quite BSF-good, but still a good burger. Thumbs-up from my husband and dad, too.

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                                                                                                                                                                    anonymouse1935 Jan 13, 2010 07:18 AM

                                                                                                                                                                    Has the Blazer burger gone downhill lately? It was always the best, imo, and I haven't seen it talked about.

                                                                                                                                                                    When I have a burger, I don't want to stand up to get it. I want to be served, a la Blazer or Squires. BSF is not good enough to warrant standing up, even if it is the 'in' thing. AJ's is sit-down, but it's no Blazer, or the Blazer I had pre-fire.

                                                                                                                                                                    Speaking of gimmicks, I caught something on television about a POP burger in NYC. What is the draw there, it seemed to be pulling in all the trendy folk.

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                                                                                                                                                                      farnsworth Jan 24, 2010 03:44 PM

                                                                                                                                                                      Two good burgers that I've had in the last 6 months. Long Ridge Tavern (Stamford), and Bogey's in Westport. Bogey's fries are great, and they also do onion rings.

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                                                                                                                                                                        gerchak198 Jan 25, 2010 11:53 AM

                                                                                                                                                                        A couple of folks mentioned 5 Guys, but, Little Chowhound specified "juicy" and % Guys' are certainly NOT juicy since they are always medium to medium well. I don't live in your area although I used to. My hangout in high school was The Fireplace on Rt. 17 in Paramus--but they are not juicy. For juicy, and the best hamburgers I've had in many years, if you're ever in Saratoga (specifically, Milton), or in the Capital District (specifically Guilderland), check out Juicy Burgers and More. Simply awesome, and really juicy.

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                                                                                                                                                                    candykat Jan 26, 2010 12:23 PM

                                                                                                                                                                    The Blazer Pub in Purdys, NY (Northern Westchester) is by far the best burger and fries I have ever had. They take reservations for 6 or more. Family owned, the nicest people work here and still are able to serve the freshest food at a reasonable price.

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                                                                                                                                                                      Foodie200 Feb 6, 2010 01:51 PM

                                                                                                                                                                      Just went there yesterday. The food has gone way downhill.

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                                                                                                                                                                        riverhound Feb 25, 2010 03:19 AM

                                                                                                                                                                        black bear saloon in stamford: i don't know if they are the best burgers, but darn good and 2 for 1 every tuesday. they all come with decent shoestring fries and a delicous pickle...

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                                                                                                                                                                      sandralee Mar 1, 2010 11:39 AM

                                                                                                                                                                      little chowhound i would try the road house in rye great burgers and curly fries the place is cajun and my kids love it

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                                                                                                                                                                        allieb2031 Mar 28, 2010 02:56 PM

                                                                                                                                                                        I just had the grass-fed Meetinghouse Burger at The Meetinghouse in Bedford Village. Not sure what it used to be like -- they just got a new chef I hear -- but this was super tasty! Cheese, crispy onions, brioche bun. Not like Napa & Co, but in good resto-starved Bedford, I'll eat this any night!

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                                                                                                                                                                          jfood Mar 28, 2010 03:10 PM

                                                                                                                                                                          Glad to hear the burger is still great. With the previous owners, the burger was ordered by 30% of the customers on a Saturday night. Even with Chevy Chase wearing a goofy hat staring through the window almost embarassing you to hurry, it was worth taking your time and enjoying. Glad they kept the brioche bun. Meetinghouse is a great little find.

                                                                                                                                                                          www.ctbites.com

                                                                                                                                                                        2. onealexis Sep 12, 2010 03:47 PM

                                                                                                                                                                          The Ithaca Ale House - Many options, many burger types - not a single one is disappointing. Fries are excellent and I think all burgers with fries are under $13. http://www.ithacaalehouse.com/

                                                                                                                                                                          Another amazing burger in Ithaca is at North Star Public House. Grass fed, local beef, cooked to juicy perfection. I think it's $10 with fries and the fries are excellent. This is a fantastic restaurant, new, hip, cool, great meals. Check it out: http://northstarpub.com/

                                                                                                                                                                          In Owego - the Tioga Trails Cafe - This place is about as odd and quirky as a place can be! The owners are darling even if a little overwhelming at times. The burger is SOO good though. http://www.tiogatrailscafe.com/

                                                                                                                                                                          Now, if anyone can find me an amazing burger in Binghamton, I'll be sooo happy... so far, the only burgers that are good or good enough are: South Side Yanni's and The Mad Moose. I want an amazing burger though. Please tell me where it is!

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                                                                                                                                                                          1200 Vestal Ave, Binghamton, NY 13903

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                                                                                                                                                                            demifast Sep 28, 2010 02:28 PM

                                                                                                                                                                            that's the problem with a board that encompasses the entire state of ny. just when I was getting excited to hear about something new in burgers in the westchester area other than pipers kilt or squires (decent places both - but terrible atmospheres and boring sides) - along comes recommendations for places in Ithaca and Binghamton. sorry - but a 4 hour drive is too far for my Friday night burger cravings.

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                                                                                                                                                                              jhopp217 Sep 29, 2010 08:00 AM

                                                                                                                                                                              I am a KIlt lover, but have you tried other places in the area? Quarry, Stephen's Green or American Bistro? All make very good burgers. Try the California Burger at the Quarry, the Stephen's Burger at SG or the Bistro Burger At American Bistro. All three also have very good steak sandiwches for the carnivores out there. I also think AJ's in New Rochelle has the best sliders around.

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                                                                                                                                                                              8 Church Rd, Big Indian, NY 12410

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                                                                                                                                                                                Solstice444 Sep 30, 2010 07:43 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                demifast, try driving to Beacon (maybe 45 minutes-1 hour away depending on where you live in Westchester) for a burger at Poppy's in Beacon. The burger is delicious, all of the meat is grass fed and fresh, from a farm in Ulster County. The chef/owner is a great guy. They use local ingredients as much as possible. Anyone I've brought there has never been disappointed! It can be a bit crowded on weekends as it's a small place, but it's worth it. There are many shops in Beacon as well as an art museum, and also hiking in the area, so it's a good place to spend some time.

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                                                                                                                                                                              jpd3 Jan 9, 2011 02:08 PM

                                                                                                                                                                              I'll have to put a vote in for Restaurant North on Main street in Armonk. Their burger is out of this world, although I'd recommend you ask for the toppings on the side. The blend that the chef put together for that burger is something else - might need reservations at night though.

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                                                                                                                                                                                Maggie Larkin Mar 1, 2011 06:16 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                tried to look through a few, but so many posts!

                                                                                                                                                                                anyone talking long island here?

                                                                                                                                                                                im looking for a great, juicy, turkey burger....i know juicy is usually reserved for beef but im not giving up hope! im tired of dry burgers & the crap at chain places who sometimes offer it as a substitute, knowing its rarely ordered

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                                                                                                                                                                                  Fred19 Mar 1, 2011 03:38 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                  My favorite turger (turkey burger) is at the Celebrity Diner.

                                                                                                                                                                                  I like to eat it with tomatoes, onions, ketchup and A1 steak sauce and a side of their great cole slaw.

                                                                                                                                                                                  ~Fred19

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                                                                                                                                                                                  312 Jericho Tpke, Syosset, NY 11791

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                                                                                                                                                                                    csabo Mar 1, 2011 07:02 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                    Those interested in turkey burgers should generate a new thread as the discussion will be more readily found.

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                                                                                                                                                                                  ryanallday Mar 8, 2011 05:14 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                  one of my favorite Burgers can be found at Dish in Mahopac, its called the Chipolte Cheddar Burger and it was amazing, a thick meaty burger with cheddar cheese, bacon, lett tomm, onion and a great chipolte sauce on a delicious bun....fries are excellent too

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