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Feb 28, 2007 04:40 PM

Oakville Grocery (SF) CLOSED????

Anyone have any idea what happened to Oakville Grocery in Fishermans Warf. I've heard they are closed for good. I tried calling and there is no answer.

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  1. We were in there maybe 2 weeks ago, had friends who had never been here and wanted to see the wharf. It was mostly empty and didn't seemed to be very well stocked. Was certainly nothing like the Oakville grocery in Oakville. I even commented that the place looked like a ghost town so wouldn't be surprised at all.

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    1. re: rtmonty

      Their old location near the Jug Shop never had much business, either.

    2. I heard a Dean and Deluca might be taking it over.

      1. Oakville Grocery is dead. Filed bankruptcy and closed up shop. Last day for the SF store was 2/14.

        Big, long discussion here: Look for the words in red.

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        1. re: zin1953

          Wow and wow and wow. That discussion of Oakville Grocery's shameful stiffing
          of wineries and winemakers on the erobertparker link above is fascinating. Not only is it an insight into despicable business practices, but also into wine and food retailing. I was riveted. Many thanks for the link, zin1953.

          1. re: maria lorraine

            I'm in no way an Oakville Grocery fan, but I thought that discussion was a tempest in a teapot created by a bunch of whine-lovers. Enterprises going into bankruptcy almost always "stiff" creditors (by definition, you might even say), and OG is too small an enterprise to cause serious damage to the industry. It was also full of preposterous half-truths. The reported new owner does not own Dean and Deluca, and I doubt it was a former principal of Oakville Grocery that went on to single-handedly "found" Ferry Plaza.

            1. re: Gary Soup

              Yes, any time you have a group of folks telling their stories, there will be inaccuracies and subjective (biased) opinions. It's true Leslie Rudd was mischaracterized. He's the new owner of the Oakville OG store, and also owns the Dean & Deluca store in Napa Valley.

              It's those individual stories that made the discussion so interesting in my mind:
              the impact of OG's fiscal irresponsibility on individual people's lives, especially in regards to the small-label winemakers trying to make their label thrive and who can't afford to take a hit. The tales of OG employees and wine buyers who were put in an awkward position are in the discussion as well.

              The collective stories point to a larger story that goes beyond Oakville Grocery --
              the general difficulties of wine selling and retailing, and the frustration at the inaction of the alcohol-licensing body when a retailer sells the wine and then doesn't pay the the winery.

              The "facts" presented in the discussion were sometimes inaccurate, as you point out, Gary, but the discussion was rich with anger, humor, frustration, rants, praise and insights into the real workings of the wine industry. I was fascinated by all the voices.

        2. Is the store at the Stanford Shopping Center closed too? I always thought they did fine business there. I liked browsing their products. Never been to the store at Fisherman's Wharf though.

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          1. re: singleguychef

            The chain was poorly run for a long time.

            1. re: zin1953

              I've never been a fan of any of the Oakville Groceries I've visited, especially the FW one. So, are they all gone?

            2. re: singleguychef

              it's still open. was there on presidents day and waited a good 15 minutes for my sandwich. i guess a good tip is not to visit on a holiday since they hadn't stocked the shelves in the refridgerated part that day.

            3. That Dean & Deluca rumor is interesting. It's well-known enough that it could successfully expand its national presence, and a location in SF, one of the great food cities, seems logical. On the other hand, there's a lot of competition in the "upscale grocer" market here, and it's not clear how many San Franciscans will want to brave the Fisherman's Wharf tourist crush to reach a Dean & Deluca location at the Cannery.