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Rouge et Blanc wine bar

Robert Lauriston Feb 28, 2007 07:36 AM

The Chron reports that that dreadful Viansa wine bar at 334 Grant near Union Square has closed and the Aqua people are reopening it shortly as Rouge et Blanc. Charcuterie, cheese, pressed sandwiches.


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  1. Lori SF Feb 28, 2007 07:49 AM

    anything will be an improvement and that interior is so not welcoming for a wine bar.

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    1. re: Lori SF
      Robert Lauriston Feb 28, 2007 08:25 AM

      That Chron piece says it's been redecorated by Cameron Hirigoyen, who designed Bocadillos.

      My problem with Viansa was that they served only their own crappy wines. It was a winery tasting room passing itself off as a wine bar.

    2. pane Feb 28, 2007 08:37 AM

      Thank god. I was there a few weeks ago on a Saturday afternoon. Though there were only two parties in the whole place, the server couldn't get it together to bring the water we requested twice.

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        JAMES BRZYCKI Mar 17, 2007 07:07 PM

        I have visited the place when the winery owned it and knew immediately it would not make it.I visited the place on St. Pattie's day and unfortunately it wasn't busy. The decor hasn't changed. As a Cellar Master on cruise ships I can honestly say they(Americans and tourists) are not drinking French these days. The wine list is too French and over priced. I can buy a bottle of Opus One for 165....they sell it above 300+. The food items are too French. Sorry, but this is not France...its San Francisco with many wine bars around. Its a good tax write off for their other restaurants though. A good place to throw your money out. No music..No free bread or crackers....Two glasses of cheap wine..$20.00 not including tip.

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        1. re: JAMES BRZYCKI
          Melanie Wong Mar 17, 2007 07:24 PM

          Actually the French have been promoting heavily in the SF market for the last two years and the drop-off has not been as apparent (or non-existent) here, according to various retailers. French wine exports to the US have increased in the last year
          I've often heard that the SF Bay Area has the highest per capita consumption of grand cru and premier cru Burgundy, but no hard data source to back that up. Maybe not the tourists drinking the burgs, but someone out there is.

          1. re: JAMES BRZYCKI
            Robert Lauriston Mar 19, 2007 02:52 PM

            The selection and prices aren't similar to Cafe de la Presse's?

            Many SF wine bars and restaurants offer a lot of French wines. They wouldn't do that if people weren't buying them. I certainly do my part.

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            ernie in berkeley Mar 19, 2007 10:34 AM

            I wonder if the presence of two huge Burg importers (Premier Cru and North Berkeley) skews the results, since they do a lot of Internet sales.

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            1. re: ernie in berkeley
              zin1953 Mar 19, 2007 01:54 PM

              It very well may. Then again, almost everyone I know loves Burgundy, and that includes a whole lot of people ITB . . .

              1. re: ernie in berkeley
                Melanie Wong Mar 19, 2007 06:30 PM

                Kermit Lynch, Esquin Imports, Martine, and Wilson-Daniels are also located here and bring in top notch Burgundy, much of which stays in the Bay Area.


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                Standardpc Apr 3, 2007 12:55 PM

                Top marks for travelers who are looking for a place to grab a quick bite to eat while enjoying a good glass of wine. Great, yet unusal, Philly! Friendly and opionated staff. I was there on a Tuesday during lunch (empty) and had a great experience. By the glass selection isn't huge but good enough for a casual lunch.

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