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Website List for corking?

Beka Feb 27, 2007 07:26 AM

Okay that may not make sense to anyone but me, sorry.
I was told a while back that there is a site somewhere that lists the years and region of various types of wines, possibly by the bigger brands too.....and tells you when they recommend holding the wine or corking it.

Anyone ever heard of such a thing?

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    zin1953 Feb 27, 2007 09:19 AM

    Beka, what do you mean by "tells you when they recommend holding the wine or corking it"? What does "corking it" mean?

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      carswell Feb 27, 2007 09:26 AM

      Pulling the cork, i.e. uncorking it, I'd wager.

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        zin1953 Feb 27, 2007 10:06 AM

        Hmmm . . . well that could make sense, I suppose, but such a website would be so inaccurate as to be all but useless.

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        Beka,

        IF indeed that is what you mean, so much depends upon storage conditions, the distance the wine has traveled, and how *you* personally enjoy a wine that I'm not sure how useful such a site would be -- certainly nothing more than the "loosest" of guidelines . . .

    2. Suzie Feb 27, 2007 10:08 AM

      I always call or e-mail the winery directly and ask about which wine I am curious about. I usually get an answer directly from the wine maker and have never been dissapointed.
      http://travelenvoy.com/wine.htm

      1. Beka Mar 2, 2007 06:54 AM

        Thanks everyone!
        Yes that's what I meant.
        I know it wouldn't be fool-proof; me being the 'fool' ;-) but we travel here and there and tour wineries and buy wines. I can never tell whether to hold it or not.

        I know that most whites should be served within a year or two?
        but mostly we buy reds.

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          zin1953 Mar 2, 2007 09:13 AM

          Beka --

          Some white are indeed best within a year or two, while others can age 10, 20 even 50 years! Some reds are best within a year or two, while others can age 10, 20 even 50 years!

          The potential of aging is not a function of color. It's a function of the specific wine, and the style in which it is produced. It's also a function of storage conditions, shipping conditions, and a multiple of other factors.

          This doesn't mean there are no "guidelines," but remember they are just that -- the most generalized of guidelines; for specific information about a particular wine, you can always a) contact the winery, b) contact the retailer who sold you the wine, c) contact the importer, or d) ask specific questions on this or more sine-specific internet bulletin boards.

        2. Robert Lauriston Mar 2, 2007 10:57 AM

          You mean uncorking?

          The pay portion of Wine Spectator's Web site has a searchable database of reviews and users' tasting notes.

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            zin1953 Mar 2, 2007 11:50 AM

            True, but other sites have that for free.

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              Robert Lauriston Mar 2, 2007 12:30 PM

              Which sites?

              I haven't yet found a free site with anywhere near as large a database.

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                carswell Mar 2, 2007 12:51 PM

                Plus, of all the sucky things about the Wine Spec, the suckiest is their drinkability window recommendations. Parker is better on that score, even if his idiosyncratic "anticipated maturity" moniker is typically imprecise (wines in their adolescence, which is often when he suggests they become drinkable, are hardly mature). Hugh Johnson's Pocket Encyclopedia of Wine might be the best, broadest and most affordable listing of when to drink wines, though its usefulness would be somewhat limited if all you drink is, say, California juice.

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                  Robert Lauriston Mar 2, 2007 01:01 PM

                  The predictions on when wines will be ready to drink in reviews of just-released wines aren't very useful.

                  What I like are relatively recent tasting notes.

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                    pkimble Mar 2, 2007 01:06 PM

                    Cellartracker.com has maturity dates as well as tasting notes from other users about the wines they taste.

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                      Robert Lauriston Mar 2, 2007 01:43 PM

                      Were cellartracker's tasting notes always free? I'd looked at it before and thought the reviews were hidden from nonmembers.

                      That site's way better than winespectator.com.

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                        zin1953 Mar 2, 2007 05:01 PM

                        cellartracker was what I was thinking about. Too, you can register for free at eBob and participate in the bb there -- lots of tasting notes, lots of knowledgeable people, lots of different opinions, but you usually get a lot of info when you ask questions there.

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                      carswell Mar 2, 2007 01:08 PM

                      Wine Spec is non-discriminatory in its suckiness. They don't screw up drinkability recs only for just-released wines, they screw them up for more mature wines too.

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                        zin1953 Mar 2, 2007 05:02 PM

                        Well, there's something to be said for consistency! ;^)

              2. Beka Mar 13, 2007 10:09 AM

                Wow! I hadn't checked in in awhile and there's so much more now!
                I thought it was doomed to be a 'dud' question.

                Thanks everyone! And yes I did mean uncorking, but I guess I was under the impression it was called 'corking' as in 'corking fee' at a Rest....well whichever.

                I'm going to have a look at cellartracker now...

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