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twodogs Feb 27, 2007 05:14 AM

We are meeting a friend for dinner Wed. evening around 7th and Bell.I'm not that familiar with that area.We like most types of cuisine,and prefer Mom and Pop's not chains.Any out of the way little places around there?

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    Booger Jun 27, 2007 10:26 AM

    Been to Krua Thai at 16th St and Bell, and have to agree with the other people in this post that it is wonderful. We get take out from there quite regularly.

    Was underwhelmed with the Indian Restaurant (Taste Of India) in the same strip center. Thought food was underspiced, and not real great (although, I have had some great
    Had a drink at Different Pointe of View, and wasn't impressed. The service was lousy (15 minutes after we sat down before anyone even greeted us, waiter never came back, so we had to pay our bill at the bar, etc.), the atmosphere was too "old-school", and it was very expensive. I know this is a food list, but my drink experience steers me away from coming back to eat (had a greyhound, and the juice tasted like it was out of a can, and a double was over $20). The view was stellar like everyone says. Maybe the food is better, but I hesitate to spend the kind of money it would cost, if our cocktail experience was so bad.

    Liked "Basis" (7th and Thunderbird). Excellent preparations using top notch ingredients, and reasonable priced (but not cheap). (See other post in this thread for in depth info about this place).

    Anybody know anything about "Il Posto"? Haven't seen anything about it in the area, but noticed the reference in a post in this thread.

    Re-reading this post, and saw a reference to "Joey's Italian Bistro". I don't know how I missed this before, but I think this will be next on my "to-try" list. We love Tomaso's, but it is a little pricey for frequent dining.

    Thanks for all the great "local neighborhood" info. This thread has been really valuable to me.

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    1. re: Booger
      ciaogal Jun 27, 2007 01:36 PM

      Don't forget the Codfather on the North East Corner of 16th and Bell.....For traditional Fish and Chips, Bubble and Squeak and Bangers ond Mash....Today's special was a Chicken Curry w/ a side of Naan

      1. re: ciaogal
        ajs228 Jun 27, 2007 03:16 PM

        I actually tried this place today. Good chips and fairly flavorful cod, but I think I ingested my weekly grease quota.

        1. re: ajs228
          azhotdish Jun 27, 2007 03:23 PM

          As an aside, they have really nice cod at Sprouts ($8.99/lb) right now. I lightly bread and fried some last night with a side of roasted eggplant, tomatoes and squash. Very, very fresh and tasty fish.

          1. re: ajs228
            ciaogal Jun 27, 2007 04:29 PM

            ajs228 I too ate @ Codfather today.....I had the Haddock w/ a side of Curry Sauce w/ my Chips.....

            1. re: ciaogal
              ajs228 Jun 27, 2007 05:01 PM

              Did you drip some of the sauce on your lap? I think I saw you.

              1. re: ajs228
                ciaogal Jun 27, 2007 06:33 PM

                That was me.....I always bring a few leftovers home w/ me to enjoy later.......My dry cleaner appreciates it too!
                :-)

                1. re: ciaogal
                  ajs228 Jun 28, 2007 08:40 AM

                  Well I'll be snookered. My first face-to-face encounter with a fellow Hound and I don't even get to say hi. Makes you wonder how many other people on this board you cross paths with and never even know it.

        2. re: Booger
          pickychick Aug 8, 2007 12:43 PM

          Il Posto is the old Our Gang. Same owners, different menu. They ditched most of the pizza offerings and are attempting to be "upscale Northern Italian." I found it boring and the new decor to be lacking the charm of the previous look (even if it was kitschy). Totally disappointed especially since I have lived in the vicinity of this restaurant for two years, had made it a reliable standby, and then they went and changed everything.

          Le Peep next door closed, and looks like the space is being renovated. Hopefully something independent and tasty will go in...who knows...

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          VictorLouis Mar 13, 2007 04:21 PM

          Booger,

          No problem. I'm eager to help others avoid the mediocre and outright disasters. I apologize for NOT seeing your response earlier. Tunnel-vision, I guess!

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            VictorLouis Mar 2, 2007 12:14 PM

            I hope not, for THEIR sake, LOL.

            1. ciaogal Mar 2, 2007 12:12 PM

              VictorLouis, Joey's Bistro used to make a great tortellini a la panna haven't been there in ages.....since my divorce! Maybe that's an omen!

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                VictorLouis Mar 2, 2007 11:56 AM

                >>>There is a Thai restaurant named: Pink Thai or something, on Bell, just West of 8th. Very good food, and warm, friendly, accommodating staff. Nice atmosphere also (a little upscale, not divey like some good Asian restaurants can be).<<<

                The Pink Pepper is at the s.w. corner of 3rd St. and Bell. They have a fantastic lunch buffet that's a good way to break-in any newbie's to that type of food. Do NOT confuse them with their former affiliate of the same name over in Tempe. Tempe is now a different owner, and not NEARLY as good as Bell. { I sampled there buffet twice, about a month apart.)

                >>>Not sure if Blue Plate Brunchery is open for dinner. It is definitely a Mom and Pop feel. It is a diner.<<<

                After spending a little more than $10 there last Monday for a breakfast that didn't fill me up, I wouldn't dare sample them for dinner. It WAS good, mind you, it's just that I found them to be no competition with Bill Johnson's about a mile away on 19th Ave.

                >>>There are always a ton of cars at "Pancho's" which is a Mexican buffet at 12th St and Bell. Haven't been there myself, but it is popular.<<<

                Pancho's is known under the term 'barf-fet', rather than buffet. Gave them three tries, once with my son. No mas!

                >>>Ray's NY Pizza, on the west end of the Safeway shopping center is very good pizza. Surly waiters (which I don't find appealing, but it is NY style). Not upscale by any means, but good food.<<<

                Generally owned and run by Italy's cousins across the bay, Albanians. Just short of what you might picture as a 'Pizza-Nazi' experience, ala 'Seinfeld'.

                >>>There is an Italian restaurant at 7th and Union Hills (NE corner), called Nina's Passion Bistro. It was supposed to be really great years ago, but apparently has gone a little downhill. Haven't tried it myself.<<<

                At the NW corner, there is Joey's Italian Bistro. I haven't been in a couple of years since my divorce, so it may certainly have changed. My understanding is that it's owned by Tomaso's and the same recipes are in use at more family-friendly prices.

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                1. re: VictorLouis
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                  Booger Mar 5, 2007 01:05 PM

                  Your comments (mostly in reply to my earlier comments are right on). Thanks for the follow up. I am new to the area, so this helps me avoid the spots that should be avoided (I wasn't hurrying to Pancho's anytime soon anyway).

                  I am going to try the other Thai place that has been recommended, and agree with the mediocre opinion of Blue Plate Brunchery.

                2. pickychick Mar 2, 2007 11:36 AM

                  Where Our Gang was there is now a temporary banner hanging up that says "Il Posto." Does anyone have any other information on this new place? Did the Our Gang owners just change the name? There was a sign on the door for a while saying they were remodeling and would open in Feb. 2007. As far as Le Peep, it is definitely gone. Hopefully some new and lively places will move in. I have lived in the area for a little over a year and Le Peep was always a ghost town.

                  1. ciaogal Mar 2, 2007 04:22 AM

                    Menu looked great @ DPV...As did the wine list!

                    Unfortunately since I was attending a conference and not paying....we dined @ DPT....Had a Cobb Salad for lunch.....was fresh, crisp , w/ applewood bacon...it was enormous...terrific!
                    Dinner I had the Salmon over a bed of Couscous...it was cooked perfectly.

                    We shared the gnocchi as an appetizer....it was all first rate!

                    They bring a basket of a warm rustic bread w/ whole garlic cloves along w/ the obligatory olive oil balsamic vinegar melange.

                    I do recommend it if you are in the area!

                    1. ciaogal Mar 2, 2007 04:07 AM

                      Another great suggestion is a Different Point of View @ the Pointe Tapatio Hilton.

                      7th and T-Bird

                      Ate at a Different Pointe in Time for lunch and dinner last week...while attending a conference.
                      You can't be the Views of the City.....

                      http://www.differentpointeofview.com/...

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                      1. re: ciaogal
                        silverbear Mar 2, 2007 04:14 AM

                        How was the food at DPV?

                      2. HomeCookKirsten Mar 1, 2007 08:32 PM

                        Oh NO re: Our Gang and Le Peep! To be fair, I haven't lived in that area since high school and eatrly college age and that has been since 2001-2002, but they both were comfy, local and good.

                        I had forgotten that I read about Basis - now that my parents are in Ahwatukee, there is not as much reason to head back up there.

                        Thanks for the update Bill H!

                        1. Bill Hunt Mar 1, 2007 05:10 PM

                          If you mean Wed. 28th, then I'm too late. Otherwise, I'd strongly recommend Basis New American Restaurant, 410 E Thunderbird Rd, Phoenix, AZ 85022, (602) 843-3689. They are just down from Bell, along 7th St. The menu is "semi-fusion meets SW," and it is our favorite neighborhood restaurant. I just hosted a Spanish Wine Event for the International Wine & Food Society of Paradise Valley, and everyone loved it. This was a tough event, as it followed a dinner at Binkley's the month before. The main comment, that I received, was "I didn't know that Phoenix had food like this... " The menu follows:
                          COURSE ONE
                          GARNET YAM AND FONTINA GALETTE
                          with smoked salmon and mustard poppyseed vinaigrette
                          MONT MARCAL CAVA BRUT
                          Sparkling with fat bubbles. Great acidity and flinty dryness with subtle fruit

                          COURSE TWO
                          CHILLED CRAB SALAD
                          with avocado butter
                          TEMPURA LOBSTER ROLL
                          with wildflower honey ponzu glaze
                          NESSA ALBARINO RIAS BAIXAS, 2005
                          Herbaceous and dry. Unripe orchard fruit. Apples and pears.

                          COURSE THREE
                          NEW AMERICAN TAPAS SAMPLER:
                          STUFFED CHICKEN WING
                          with pasilla bbq, cilantro gremulata, and asadero
                          CAST IRON SWEET CORN CAKES
                          with southwestern braised duck and habenero sauce
                          CRISPY SQUID
                          with ko chu chang vinaigrette, cincinnati relish, and jalepenos
                          SEXTO
                          A non-traditional blend of six varietals from six regions. Loads of Iberian character.
                          Lots of fruit and generous acidity

                          COURSE FOUR
                          PEPPERCORN CRUSTED FILET
                          with blistered manchango and lobster, apple risotto and dried cherries
                          DIOS ARES CRIANZA RIOJA 2001
                          open oak and cherry flavors. Dry and spiced.

                          DESSERT
                          FLOURLESS CHOCOLATE TORTE

                          Now, we added two wines: Vega Sicila and Bodegas Torres, but the event was a knockout.

                          Their wine list is excellent, albeit small. However, if you do not see what you want on the list, ask Nick, the sommelier and he may well have some "specials" behind the bar.

                          Hunt

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                            tdreyno Mar 1, 2007 09:53 AM

                            Krua Thai at 16th Street and Bell is great. I personally can't stand Pink Pepper.

                            1. twodogs Feb 28, 2007 05:54 AM

                              Wow,I had completely forgotten about Our Gang Cafe,haven't been there in years.
                              Thanks everyone for the suggestions !!

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                              1. re: twodogs
                                Bill Hunt Mar 1, 2007 05:14 PM

                                I could be mistaken, but it looks as though Our Gang has closed, along with the Le Peep in the same shopping center. It seems like their spaces are being redone. Bummer,

                                Hunt

                              2. HomeCookKirsten Feb 27, 2007 08:27 PM

                                My parents lived near that area until a few months ago and I know that they ate at a little Greek place on 7th Street and Greenway, tucked behind Wendy's and loved it. Not sure if it is still good? I ate there once and while a little lacking in atmosphere, is a mom-and-pop place and the food was great.

                                Also, it's been a few years, but is Our Gang Cafe still good? It's further south on 7th street (south of Thunderbird, south of North Mountain and The Point Tapatio). It used to be a good little intimate Italian/pizza place with really nice atmosphere and service.

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                                1. re: HomeCookKirsten
                                  Firenza00 Feb 28, 2007 07:35 AM

                                  I think the Greek place is called Greek Patio. It's pretty good, but we prefer Shish Kabob House over in Glendale.

                                2. ciaogal Feb 27, 2007 05:08 PM

                                  Is Joey Bistro still around on 7th and Bell? It used to be a pretty decent, fun Italian restaurant.

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                                  1. re: ciaogal
                                    amkirkland Feb 28, 2007 08:27 AM

                                    yes it is. there's also spinato's, which i haven't been to, but hear good things about. I believe that's at 16th and bell

                                    1. re: amkirkland
                                      ciaogal Mar 1, 2007 04:13 AM

                                      We have been to the Spinato's in Scottsdale...haven't tried any of their dinners....
                                      Their sauce is very sweet...which my SO loves. I am not a fan. I do love their thin crust pizza white pizza w/ spinach, garlic and ricotta!

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                                    Booger Feb 27, 2007 09:09 AM

                                    There is a Thai restaurant named: Pink Thai or something, on Bell, just West of 8th. Very good food, and warm, friendly, accommodating staff. Nice atmosphere also (a little upscale, not divey like some good Asian restaurants can be).

                                    Not sure if Blue Plate Brunchery is open for dinner. It is definitely a Mom and Pop feel. It is a diner.

                                    There are always a ton of cars at "Pancho's" which is a Mexican buffet at 12th St and Bell. Haven't been there myself, but it is popular.

                                    Ray's NY Pizza, on the west end of the Safeway shopping center is very good pizza. Surly waiters (which I don't find appealing, but it is NY style). Not upscale by any means, but good food.

                                    There is an Italian restaurant at 7th and Union Hills (NE corner), called Nina's Passion Bistro. It was supposed to be really great years ago, but apparently has gone a little downhill. Haven't tried it myself.

                                    Others might come to me, but these are my recommendations initially.

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                                      hzp Feb 27, 2007 05:18 AM

                                      at 16th and Bell is a truly wonderful Indian place that is definitely Mom and Pop. For Indian, we always make the trek up there. Can't even remember the name of it. Indian Palace maybe? But its on the south side of the street, being going for ages and ages.

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                                      1. re: hzp
                                        silverbear Feb 27, 2007 05:32 AM

                                        It's Taste of India. It's one the few Indian restaurants I know that has British beers on tap.

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                                          amkirkland Feb 28, 2007 08:28 AM

                                          There's a thai place in that same strip. anyone been there?

                                          1. re: silverbear
                                            mamamia Jun 27, 2007 11:07 AM

                                            That's our choice for Indian.
                                            Husband actually orders Taj Mahal in the bottle when we go.

                                            It's a big restaurant for British ex pats.

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