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Forgot how overpriced the market is. Spent 18 bucks on a crappy cornish pastie that was not good at all and a small steak pie, which was actually pretty good....but not THAT good. Also it seems to be lots of people selling stuff for other people rather than the producer selling directly to the consumer. Didn't see many farmers either.
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re: John Manzo
maybe some of the bashing is justified.it is overly expensive for what you get ,although there are things there(creton) that i just have to bite the bullet on.but more and more people are starting to see the fact that most of it is a ripoff and better of retreating and regrouping.then beating a dead horse.how can you honestly argue for higher prices?mabye cause they are close to you?the setup sucks(no parking,confusing streets,)no farmers ,everybody there it seems sells other peoples stuff at a huge increase.let it die so theycan start over again with a new found sense of honor and truth .anybody who has been to crossroads will know ,although even there its getting pricey, but if people are willing to pay then they are gonna raise prices.i think the cfm was a bad influence on actual (real) farmers markets.let the dog die already so we(those who want real food at real value)can get something worthwhile cfm rip
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Just wanted to let everyone know CFM has expanded their Christmas hours:
From the Missing Link Sausage Co hours are as follows:
Friday, December 18th – 9:00 am – 5:00 pm
Saturday, December 19th – 9:00 am – 5:00 pm
Sunday, December 20th – 9:00 am – 4:00 pmMonday, December 21st – CLOSED
Tuesday, December 22nd – 9:00 am – 5:00 pm
Wednesday, December 23rd – 9:00 am – 5:00 pmThe market is then closed Dec 24-Jan 7, back to their regular schedule again Friday January 8th
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Gull Valley tomatoes and the coffee from Phil & Sebastian Coffee Co. As you can see, Farmers Market is a great start to a Sunday.
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I don;t even mind the pies but have never been a fan of in your face marketing, I'm a shy person and don;t want unnecessary chit chat. I actually feel bad to turn someone down so I avoid the situation.
Also, I am the guy with the Valco stroller, but I am the guy trying to chase my wife who is scurrying around touching everything, I usually end up waiting outside in a huff (at the wife) due to the fun involved in navigating the market and trying to keep that #$%^^&% stroller out of people's way. and yes the child is much less annoying in that boat than me trying to control him wirelessly with a broken remote control.
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I agree with the general concensus that the market is getting way too crowded and overpriced. Plus I had a bad experience with "Simple Simon" and stopped buying from him years ago -- his pies ain't all that.
I'm finding beautiful campari tomatoes from Windset Farms at Costco that are almost as good as Gull Lake and at half the price -- which is important as I have 4 kids. They are grown without pesticides as well like Gull Lake's. I can also find quite a bit of local produce during the summer/fall at Amaranth which is somewhat cheaper than CFM. I still go to CFM with the kids for fun and will buy a few things, but have stopped going religiously once a week like I once did.
I have found a good time to go is around 4:00 pm on Sunday, maybe it's sheer luck, but it wasn't too crowded. Plus I found Blush Lane marks down their fresh chickens by about 20% by that time as well.
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re: sweeterpea
I agree that the market is a bit overpriced... the one reason I go there is actually the stall that sells maple products from Quebec. I LOVE their maple and blueberry pies.
But the crowding is horrible. When I do go down I usually go for the instant they open and get out after about an hour. Which saves my wallet too. :)
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re: sweeterpea
Actually, 4:00pm on Sunday is probably a bad time to go as the market closes at 4 on Sundays. It's open till 5pm on Fridays and Saturdays, but closes at 4 on Sundays.
Good tip about the Windset Farms tomatoes. While the large majority of the produce are absolutely fantastic at the market, there are several stalls selling inferior goods and using the fact that they are situated within a farmer's market as a cover to it.
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Am I the only one who dreads waling past that NE corner where you have to do the "No I don't want a taster of you pies" gauntlet, ya probably I am. Wish I could get a no thanks to the pie button to wear.
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re: Fid
Better order a dozen of those buttons! Horrible, horrible pies. I frequent the CFM every week. Yes it is expensive. Yes I hate those stupid big strollers -- what's wrong with making kids walk these days? It tires them out! But yet I go every week to see whats new, poke around, get a good cappucino at Phil & Sebatistian's. Grazing Acres is my favorite haunt right now. The best jumbo eggs and chickens are even better than Sunworks (sorry Sunworks I bought yours for 2 years!). And tomatoes -- you can't get good ones at regular grocery stores (i.e. Safeway/Co-op etc.) so thats what keeps me going back. I hate the prices too but I am addicted to good igredients!
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re: lynnrb
i've had reasonably good luck at downtown co-op with decent tomatoes - i noticed the nice yellow ones (alberta grown) yesterday.
the only thing that will get me back is an extreme craving for butter tarts(i haven't found better ones) - soon phil & sebastian will be open in marda loop so that will solve that :)
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re: lynnrb
I feel I must defend the pies....I like the quiches. They are quick and the spinach feta is really tasty. I also must say that asking an 18month old walk in that crowd doesn't work, thus the stroller.
I appreciate that this is a forum for people to air their opinions but I don't see why people have to attack people who are at different places in their lives (i.e. with strollers). Maybe I'm just a pansy but I always try to think the best of people & not be mean when you haven't met me (or any of the other mothers with strollers)!
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re: Merry113
Until recently I was one of those Moms with a big stroller too(Valco). I have 3 kids 7, 4, and just turned 3. When the kids were smaller I wouldn't have been able to carry the groceries, a-n-d have a hand on the 4yo and 3yo. Youngest went up front in the stroller, groceries got the back seat and 4yo "helped" me push. Always mindful not to park said stroller in the middle of already crowded aisles and yielded to faster moving customers.
The now 3yo is a "big boy" doesn't want to sit (who can blame him) so we tend to take up more space than the stroller... youngest two each holding a hand and groceries and purse slung on my shoulders. It was easier to er herd them when both hands weren't full. :D
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re: slingshotz
Yep, had the bacon...bagel bacon is good for my teens who like doing the breakfast sandwich thing. Hey stroller mamas-- don't get so uptight! I had 4 kids under 6 at one point and I dragged those kids everywhere with me so believe me I understand the logistics of shopping with kids. So I am not by any means unsympathetic. Its just that some strollers like the ones that have the big wheels that are meant for running paths are too big for narrow spaces with lots of people. I had a twin stroller but this was kept for mall visits and walking in the neighborhood and I kept a smaller umbrella type stroller for busy places. Anyway, this forum isn't about strollers and I didn't even start that topic so don't hate. Back to food!
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My favorite stall is Sylvan Star cheese where you can't go wrong with any of the choices. There are a variety of good meat venues but I usually pick up sausages which are of good quality at Old Country. If you like meat pies try the Swiss chicken and the ham,onion at Simple Simon. Stay away from the Shepherds pie which tends to fall apart to mush in the microwave. The Going Nuts vendor has a wide selection of nuts and seeds that I add to baking or my morning cereal, and I like that they have small sizes so I can use them before they get stale. I can't recommend the fruit and produce as I find it mostly overpriced. Crossroads Market,especially Chongos, fits the bill for that when they bring in Okanagan and local stuff in the summer.
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i think i'm done with the market - i just got back from another miserable experience. let's see, it was already packed by 10am (don't people work?), more than one person stepped on me, i got tripped by a giant baby stroller and my wallet is empty....
i just paid $11 for 4 tomatoes and a few beans - huh!?! yes, they are local and yes, they are good quality - but seriously $11?!!?!!!!!
apparently there isn't a recession in calgary, if we are lined up to pay a fortune for fruits and vegetables (most of which aren't even local yet)
granville island and traditional farmer's markets do NOT cost that much - for $11 I'd walk away with at least one FULL bag of fruits and vegetables probably two. and the real farmers' markets were always very inexpensive.
OK, my rant is over - but someone give me a good reason for accepting this kind of pricing? i've found plenty of good, local produce at co-op for a fraction of the price.
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re: pants
actually, i found granville pretty expensive last time i was there, especially given that bc supermarkets seem a lot cheaper than our safeways. having said that, co-sign on everything you had to say about the cfm. I'll be sticking to chongo's and the other stalls at the crossroads.
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re: pants
Pants, I hear ya... I still remember the time at little farmer's market on Vancouver Island, I brought a huge basket of veggies up to the till and wasn't paying attention as the girl rung them in... I handed over my debit and she said "um, I have to charge you an extra 25 cents when the total is under five dollars."
I still shop at the Calgary farmer's market for the experience, but for deals I go to Chongo's and some of the other vendors at Crossroads.
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re: pants
I stopped buying groceries there when the woman in front of me in line bought an organic chicken, a handful of veggies and a few pieces of fruit for her kids to munch on while they finished shopping for a grand total of $69 and change! Eariler that day it also cost me over $30 for the ingerdients to make burchetta.
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re: pants
I hear you pants. I like supporting local producers but the prices there sheesh Have the prices gone up or has my wallet shrunk?
My daughter just got back from a school field trip to Hotchkiss. While I love their produce I'm not nuts about the premium retailers are charging. I think I'll be going on a few field trips this summer and finding my way to farms gate sales.
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re: maplesugar
maplesugar,
dont know if you have used this interactive "gate sales" map but thought I'd post the link anyways..
its not the most user friendly but its a great way to find local growers.
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re: 23skidoo
Hey, whatever floats your boat. Gull Valley tomatoes are one step up from grocery store tomatoes.
Places like Gull Valley have the exact same problem that grocery stores have - how to move product from where it's grown to where it's sold without it falling apart. Therefore, they need to grow thick skinned tomatoes with a high gelatinous content (basically, they've bred out the juice and replaced it with the gelatin that's around the seeds). I grow some tomatoes that can barely make it from the garden to the kitchen because they're so thin skinned and so full of actual juice.
I've bought Gull Valley tomatoes, and well, they're better than the typical grocery store's, if that's really saying much. Not to mention their outrageous prices.
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re: graemejw
Shazam is right according to the good scientists at UC Davis, it is a gelatinous membrane.
http://www-plb.ucdavis.edu/labs/rost/...
Just got my curiosity up so I did a couple of searches. Tomatoes are also a fruit (ok most of us knew that) in fact a berry, AND is also the ovary of a flowering plant. Just thought I'd add that "ovary" part so it runs through everyone's mind when they eat a tomato!
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There is a 'tomato' guy that attends in the summer months. There are a number of varieties to choose from and they taste amazing!!!
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re: canucks1619
Help guys - I need to find out if the Farmers Mkt is open this Good Friday --- does anyone know ? They have the BEST Hot Cross buns there and I forgot to buy last weekend ! The mkt website says nothing.
BTY -- I am a LOVER of butter tarts and pumpkin pie and the absolute best of both is the shop at the end, in the middle facing the food court, you know, the place that has samples of goodies ....
Also, my good friend Angela just had to close her coffee shop (Tumblebeans on 14th St SW, by 26th Ave. The building was bought and after 11 yrs. she was pushed our with no where to go. She is Italian and she insisted on great beans and she made the best espressos, lattes, whatever ..... because she made them to order - when you came in regularly she knew what you wanted without asking and made it exactly to perfection - each person's perfection !! AAahhh.... we miss Tumblebeans SO much, not JUST the coffee and Angela & Gerald but all the other regulars. You just don't find coffee shops like that anymore. We tried Cadence in Bowness and a few others but not the same - Sat. afternoons everyone was talking to everyone. We didn't know their last names or sometimes even their first but everyone would chat and enjoy the company AND the coffee!!!
That's my first post and I've got out quite a bit - PLEASE need to know about Gd Fri mkt hours - if open !!-
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re: 1stephanie
They are always open fridays before holiday weekends.
But if I may suggest, there is a new bakery on Elbow Drive and about 90ave S.W. called COBBS and they have beautiful hot cross buns year round. I tried there blueberry twisted bread, which was to die for, so moist with a simple sugar/egg wash glaze. mmmm.-
re: CookieGal
Do you mean COBS?
Yep- 7610 Elbow Drive. I'd heard they were expanding to Alberta (apparently already 4 in Edmonton)- and ugh, every single location is in the damn suburbs. If they can open on Davie in Vancouver and on Bloor St in the Annex in Toronto why do they have to open in the 'burbs here?
I got one of those hot cross buns when I stopped in the one in the Annex I just mentioned- it was very, very delicious.
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re: John Manzo
coming from vancouver, i was very excited to hear that cobbs had arrived - but in the burbs? my boss was talking to the owners and they said that's where they will be expanding to as well - nothing downtown yet, only more locations in the burbs....very disappointing. this city needs more cafes, groceries, bakeries, butchers, etc downtown!!
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re: pants
Well 17th does have eiffel tower and rustic sourdough, not to mention buttercream bake shoppe and, soon, a second location for crave cupcakes. Oh, and euro bakery, which makes the best bureks- they're albanian and are sort like a pizza, hard to describe, nothing close to the ones they sell at crossroads.
Having said all that, cobs is an interesting chain and it would be nice to see them somewhere inner city- how about kensington getting a decent bakery?
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re: John Manzo
i guess i'll just have to wait for the giant sunterra market to open in the keynote project. co-op on 11th is pretty good, but we find we have to drive for any specialty groceries. kensington would be a great place for a cobs! it would also be great if the farmers market was open more days!!
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re: John Manzo
Don't forget that just on the end of 17th (on MacLeod and 14th) is Manuel Latruewe as well. And on 10th across from MEC is Decadent Desserts.
I've been to several Cobs in Edmonton several times - and they are decent. I like that they are open late, and open all the time. But there's better bakeries imo.
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re: John Manzo
Oh John... don't you think you downtown folks get all the goods? I'm tickled that there is a cool bakery in my burbs! I wish there was more, we are innondated with chain store out in the burbs, and I often (always) have to treck downtown, or North for more cultural shopping. All the above mentioned bakeries have there 2 or 3 key items they excel at... but we are really lacking an all encompasing bakery cafe in this city.
remeber the Breadline? that little place had potential. what we need is a rebirth of that sit down and enjoy some warm carbs, with a great cup of coffee, socialize, and take some treats home.
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re: CookieGal
Well, I think this is a bit of a compromise since it's not exactly in Okotoks. And yeah, the burbs deserve good things, but seeing as Cobs is clearly- in other cities- committed to urban storefronts, I find it a bit of a slap in the face when new chains open here that have been in and thrived in urban settings in other cities (witness Fatburger- NOBODY lives walking distance from Deerfoot Meadows! But where was their first location in Vancouver? Why, on Denman in the heart of the west end!) and head straight for sites way, way out of the core or its surrounding area. I want to see both- the suburbs need a break from chain ennui but good chains like Cobs should serve an urban market too just as they do in Toronto or Vancouver.
Breadline? Before my time- I moved here in 2000.
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re: Shazam
That's actually not so bad for me- the LRT is being extended to crowfoot, and westhills is a heck of a lot easier for me to get to than is Elbow Dr and just about anything!
Thought gilchrist was writing about Phil and Sebastian for this week's column- maybe next week's I guess...
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re: Shazam
COBS normally starts out in suburban parts of cities then eventually opens in more central parts. There is nothing creative about COBS though, its production is done by portion control, much like Moxies, the Keg, Kelsey's and others that many on here were complaining about. So if COBS does not open up in the DT area or the inner city I will not be upset
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re: canucks1619
I noticed that there is a Cobs Bakery going in at Westhills mall. It is just at the beginning of construction on the space so it will be a little while. It is going in between Shoppers Drug Mart and the UPS store - where the old Rocks (fake diamond jewelery) store was located.
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Note my discussion in late feb about how the market could use a top-notch coffee place? Well, my prayers are being answered- the former Bit O Beans space is being taken over by Phil and Sebastian, www.philsebastian.com. These fellows sell what some consider the best beans in North America- Hines Public Market in Vancouver (formerly of Seattle, Hines moved its operations to Vancouver maybe a year ago). Phil+Sebastian are supposed to open this weekend but we'll see. In any case, this is exciting news for the coffee "community" in Calgary and for the market.
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re: John Manzo
Wow that is exciting news!
I must agree with diamondintherough that Caffe Artigiano always serves up a beautiful cup of joe. Simply best cup of coffee I have ever found in all my travels. It is always my first stop when I get to Van, and I just can't get enough of there vanilla latte!
As for the market:
The little mexican booth makes a killer salsa verde.
Eve at Ladybug is a true master of the pastry. all his wares are amazing, and nothing impresses at a brunch like his hot fresh wholewheat organic croissants . (frozen to bake at home)
The bison from Valta has spurred my once lost now found love of red meat.
The Quebec booth, on and off has maple sugar pies! THE REAL DEAL! they are to die for!
Cookbook Co has all the in betweens you need.
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re: canucks1619
Hines doesn't have a caffe in Vancouver- but you can get their beans at several places; the one I know pretty well is Cafe O in Yaletown (Opus Hotel). Every shot there is a god shot, amazing coffeehouse.
EDITED because I just saw on coffeegeek.com that Cafe O has closed :(
but what the heck, I can get hines in Calgary now :)
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Sometimes the farmer's market can be expensive, so you have to really know what you're buying. My favs and reasonable:
Valta bison - freezer steaks (rib eye especially)
Greek Gals - tszatiki
Sylvan Star Gouda
BC Fruit from the Cherry Pit
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re: nutellaluvr
I like Gull Valley, particularly their tomatoes & beans however 'The Cucumber Man' also has excellent mini cukes and bell peppers. I also buy fresh basil from them quite often, and just picked up some of their pesto - it's absolutely fabulous - the jar got emptied in under a week.
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I shop the Calgary Farmers Market every Friday morning for my weekly treats and couldn't agree more. It is just the best shopping in Calgary. First stop is always milk and butter from Vital Green Farms at Blush Lane. Then Lund carrots. Around to Sylvan for cheese cheese cheese. I live a block from Janice Beaton but I have to say, I buy most of my cheese here. I agree with John Manzo that the Ukranian booth is one of the best stops. Love their seafood salad. Also love the soup from the Stock and Soup Company. I recently started buying roasted organic chickens - pricey but worth it! And speaking of pricey, I bought a whole lobster last week flown in fresh and was it every good. A couple of very cute young men have just started up their own business bringing in lobster, mussels, prawns etc from the east coast every week. For special occassions only!
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Diamond- I am with you on Tutti Fruiti, in fact I'd say they have the best gelato, bar none, in Calgary. Their tiramisu flavour is as good as the best in Vancouver, much richer than Fiasco and better prices than Amato.
But this is the thing- after the owner (who is a WONDERFUL PERSON) and I were chatting about coffee (they're from Colombia after all) she tells me that her husband is a magician with espresso, so I buy one, and it is just disgusting. Pull for a double was maybe 4 seconds, gushing diarrhea espresso, the worst imaginable- I threw it in the garbage. Another visit I notice the fratello signs (they get beans from fratello, a good Calgary roaster who supplies Good Earth) has a pic of latte art, so I ask if they do that there- and she assures me that her magician-barista hubby does "all sorts" of latte art. I have a very hard time believing this since I got one of the worst espressos of my life there, but you mention their moccaccinos, so did I just have a bad accident there? And do they do latte art at this gelato place, because they sure as hell seem to have given up any pretense of quality at Bit O Beans- last time I was there, their espresso machine (a beautiful Elektra Moderne) was "broken."
OH, at the market I LOVE the Ukrainian food stand!!!
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re: John Manzo
John - Tutti Frutti is no Caffe Artigiano, which is where I go whenever I'm in Vancouver for some top-notch espresso and the latte art of which you speak. I personally enjoy their mochas when I'm wandering around on a cold winter day, but would not recommend them to a true coffee conoisseur, and although I think they have the best coffee drinks in the market I wouldn't drive all the way there for one. I've never seen anything particuarly fancy in terms of art being done there either..
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re: diamondintherough
Bit o Beans has better sourced coffee (they use Big Mountain, same as Bumpy's and Cafe Koi, two places the do latte art), so it disappointing to see how uneven they are. I think the market can use a REALLY good coffee purveyor just as there is a brilliant JJ Bean at Granville Island Mkt in Vancouver.
I was just asking because what I got at Tuttti was so terrible, I mean TERRIBLE, when their gelato is so spectacular!
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