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Worst restaurants in Westchester

We always write about our favorites on this board. How about our LEAST favorites? Overpriced, overhyped, ugly, bad food, surly service--get it all out, here and now.
I propose that priority should be given to ambitious places that don't deliver--not the humble, cheap places that don't aspire to much to begin with.

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  1. Waterfront Grille in Port Chester - absolute bomb.

    Extremely slow service, gave me the wrong dish, terrible food, overly pricey. Our appetizer tasted like a bucket of salt. And how hard is it to make chicken fettucine alfredo taste even decent?! I spoke to a friend who also had a bad experience. I wouldn't even give it a second chance. Awful.

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    1. re: uberkelly

      Service was slow @ the Waterfront Grille the one and only time I was there, too. I also had a yummy toothpick in my chicken...I didn't realize until I was chewing and I felt something sharp and not at all like chicken in my mouth. When we were asked how our meal was, we explained about the tooth pick and were told the chef would find out, as well. Then more people came over and asked how our meal was...told them the same thing. We recanted the story 3 times...no one apologized. My 'consolation' was 10% off the check.

      1. re: uberkelly

        Backal's in Scarsdale has a cursed location, I swear.

        1. re: uberkelly

          I went to Waterfront because it looked great from the outside (as probably you also did). When I sat at the bar I noticed the bar menus had a ton of errors and misspellings. When I spoke to the bartender she told me the owner simply doesn’t care anymore. The original intention was to make it a sort of dance club but Port Chester kept screwing them around with the cabaret license. The place was not really built for food. When I first asked the bartender how the food was, she made it real clear that food was not their forte. At least she was honest, so with that being said, I give them back one point. So out of 100, they score a 1. So If I have time I still stop in for a beer, then go to Ebb Tide down the street. :)

        2. Gina Marie in Eastchester. Food was decent but service was rushed to the point of having the entree delivered while my fork was poised to my mouth with salad. After visit one, I asked NOT to be rushed on visit two. Same exact scenario. When I complained to the waiter, I received a shrug as a reply. When I complained to the owner, he agreed with the waiter.

          There are equal and better Italian restaurants out there with far experior service. I won't go back and am puzzled by this restaurant's attitude.

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          1. re: dolores

            I don't know why but my first post responding to this was taken down. I have to disagree about Gina Maries Trattoria. I have found the service to be very good and the food as well.

            1. re: dolores

              Gina Marie's has become a joke with my family. I had very high hopes for this restaurant and really wanted to like it simply for their outdoor patio and convenient location (We live in Bronxville, my family is from CT so it is easy for them off te hutch and close to us). We went there last month or so. We had 6pm reservations for outside, they tried 2x's to seat us inside. Then, while getting our table ready we went to the bar...they were out of almost everything and had "red or white wine" I finally just had to go with a vodka seltzer. Then we order our appetizers (oh and the wine my dad ordered by the bottle, also nat available) we ordered 3 of the hot antipasti at about $17/ person on the menu said it had clams, crab, stuffed mushrooms, etc. Almost an hour later our apps came out with 2 stuffed clams, 2 stuffed mushrooms, IMITATION crab meat and the rest of the platter was peppers covered in sauce and cheese. I think they were trying to cover over the fact that the food was crap. When we complained that our $50 app was little more than some veggies in cheese with imitation crabmeat the manager was completely unapologetic and suggested we call the owner. Another hour later our food had not arrived. My father finally asked for the bill for what we had eaten, then a few minutes later they tried serving our entrees. We had top refuse the meals and demand the check. We had been seated at 6pm, it was now 8:30 and we ended up paying about $150 for some wine, fried calamari their 'special hot antipasti", if the apps were any indiacation the dinner wasn't worth sticking around for anyway.

              1. re: dolores

                I totally concurr with Gina Marie's being a no-go. They gave my mom's friend grief over a gift certificate, which they claimed expired despite there being no date on there. Food was so so and the service was awful.

              2. feel free to flame me on both of these but we ate at both Crabtree Kittle's and Mulino's and found them to be overhyped, overpriced and just not that good. Crabtree - which is supposed to be so romatic was loud, crowded, ther service was terrible and the food was just a bit above average. Granted this was about 2 r 3 years ago but I would not go back. The same with Mulino - the food was actually quite good but nothing close the what we expcted nor what we could get at other local Italian restaurants. The service was awfl - it was as if they only catered to those diners that they know. We waited over almost an hour past our reservation and were not given anything to say "sorry" and then were mostly ignored during the meal. UHG!

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                1. re: KarenNYC

                  I thought I replied last night.. maybe I said something bad and it got deleted. Anyway, I like the food at Kittle House. I will admit that the service is disappointing and the wait staff is not what you would expect at a fine restaurant.

                  I would also like to propose Monteverde for this list. I've yet to find anyone who liked it.

                2. Karen, you could not be more right! In both cases.

                  1. Have to agree on Crabtree Kittlehouse. When we moved to Westchester we figured we'd try it...food is dated and servcie is amateurish we found. For what it is suposed to be, we found it very dissapointing.

                    1. Chef Andrea on Lake Avenue in West Harrison. Okay, while it is disguised as a neighborhood Italian restaurant the chef/owner definitely thinks his restaurant a cut above. In my experience, it wasn't. We went one time last summer, on a recommendation from an acquaintance, and the experience was sufficiently bad that we will not return.

                      It was a casual dinner out, early on a Saturday evening - about 6:00pm. The front room/entrance/bar was depressing and the decor was uninspired, some 70's leftover kind of thing going on. There was a party in the back room and and the restaurant was crowded. We ordered some basics - vongole al forno and two brick oven pizzas - one was a margherita and the other a special white pizza described on the menu as consisting of the usual ricotta and mozzarella but also prosciutto and onion. I think we also ordered salads.

                      The clams arrived, six of the tiniest little necks I've ever seen. The clams and in fact the entire plate was swimming in oil. The tiny clams and the small bread crumb topping drops were overwhelmed by the fat. We weren't happy but didn't complain.

                      When the pizzas finally arrived - we waited quite some time - the pizzas were warm but not hot, they had obviously been sitting in the kitchen. The margherita pizza was fine, not spectacular. The special white pizza however was just a regular white pizza - no onion, no prosciutto. It took us a long time to get our server's attention and when she finally came she didn't appear to understand the problem. We explained several times before finally asking to see the menu. We showed her the pizza description. She shrugged. We explained again that the pizza that arrived was not the pizza described and that we had ordered. She asked, annoyed, what exactly we'd like her to do. We told her we wanted what we had ordered. She still didn't seem to understand and we asked for the manager. The manager/chef's wife came over and also didn't understand our problem. After all, they had brought us a white pizza. We explained again and showed her the menu. She finally said, "So you want some proscuitto on this?". We said we wanted the pizza on the menu. She was obviously annoyed but agreed.

                      It was approximately 1/2 hour until the waitress returned with the "new" pizza. She had avoided our table during the entire wait. When it arrived it looked to be the same pizza originally delivered but with some prosciutto thrown on it just reheated in the oven. Still no onion and it didn't seem to be freshly made.

                      We were pretty much done at that point and asked them to wrap the white pizza and requested the check. So, a couple of glasses of wine, soda for our daughter, the clams, the two pizzas and I think salad, for approx. $80, we received no apology, no offer of dessert or coffee, no price reduction, nada. Just bad attitude and a bad experience.

                      For all this Chef Andrea wins my vote for one of Westchester's Worst.

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                      1. re: laylag

                        I think your experience at Chef Andrea illustrates the problem of how it is possible to have completely opposite experiences depending on when you go and what you order. We're not every-week-regulars or anything like that, but we DO get there every couple of months or so and have gone with a variety of other people often. Neither we nor the others we've taken there have had an experience anything like what you describe. The fact that the place was crowded actually cheers me up, as there have always been plenty of free tables when we've gone and I was wondering how they were staying in business, tho I did notice they do a brisk business in the bar and with take-out. I'm not claiming it's the greatest Italian restaurant around, but it has been more than decent on our visits. We've never ordered the pizza, always pastas and meats, and I'll grant you the entry part of the restaurant could use some sprucing up, but we've always been able to sit in the back, which is more attractive. In addition, we've never encountered that attitude problem you had. There are more than enough Italian restaurants in the county: you needn't have to go back, but on another night (and maybe ordering differently) you might have quite another experience.

                      2. I am not a fan of Alba's- snooty service and the food is not that great.

                        1. Frankie and Jonnies- bland and overpriced
                          Waterfront Grille- cafeteria food at best
                          Water Moon -salt, salt, and more salt

                          1. I totally agree on Water Moon. Another one of those overpriced Asian fusion places where the dishes all taste the same.

                            1. I LOVE Watermoon!

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                              1. re: hungrylikeawolf

                                Love this place!!!

                                -----
                                Water Moon
                                66 Purchase St, Rye, NY 10580

                              2. I do too, but then again, I kinda like seasoning and salt in my food.
                                Also, in defense of the Kittle House, everytime I have been there the food has been great.
                                I've been going for 10 years now, and I have noticed inconsistancies in the service though.

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                                1. re: momof3

                                  I can now add Alba's to the list - that place was awful. The food was edible but I can't say anything other than that. We had the Ceasar made tablesie and it had so much garlic in it (and I LOVE garlic) no one at the table could eat it, we then had veal that was bland and rubbery and the service was non-existant, the noise level was insane and those are positive things I can say.....

                                  1. re: KarenNYC

                                    KarenNYC, it has been so many years since I was last there and didn't go back, that I can't count them. A deceased aunt was there with me! At any rate, the waiters all 'hovered', and my aunt and my mother HATED that.
                                    I did not think the food was anything special, on top of the curious service.
                                    Has that part changed, the 'hovering' I mean?

                                    1. re: dolores

                                      I went there recently and we really enjoyed the food. I think my husband had veal and liked it, and he's pretty fussy about that sort of thing. I had pasta stuffed with spinach and mushrooms in walnut sauce, which was delicious. The service was a bit too standoffish, but we didn't have any major problems.

                                    2. re: KarenNYC

                                      I didnt like the food at Alba's, the eggplant appetizer and carpaccio were awful and their margaritas are the worst, they didn't even have a bartender when I stepped in, this one's definitivaly in the list...

                                      1. re: Lisa69

                                        Alba's in Port Chester, Lisa69? No, I wouldn't trust them for margaritas.

                                        Do they still have the waiters who hover. There's service....and then there are servers who watch you put the fork to your mouth.

                                        Ick.

                                  2. Jackson and Wheeler in Pleasantville. Just so so food, and a snotty attitude if you aren't a regular. How would I get to BE a regular when your attitude and service are anything but welcoming? You make it a trip to UN-Pleasantville! PU to J&W.

                                    Nancy C

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                                    1. re: Nancy C

                                      have you been since they changed chefs?

                                      1. re: vinouspleasure

                                        Nope - went about a year or so ago, and was so put off by the staff that we've not bothered to go again. Bad staff doesn't get offset by good chef, in my book. I imagine the owners are the problem. There are enough good dining options in PVille now that the "loss" of JW from the list of options is not felt in the slightest. But if you've had a more recent experience, sans snotty staff, I am a forgiving person.

                                        :-)

                                        1. re: Nancy C

                                          And now, they are gone for good... closed. I hope something good winds up in there and wish them every success!

                                          1. re: Nancy C

                                            Drum roll unveils.... Miyabi Asian Fusion restaurant, complete with the usual silly lights and disco ball glow. I've always liked the other Japanese resto in PVille - did we really need another Asian Fusion in the 'hood? I vote for a high-end Greek (ala Pylos in NYC) for the next empty restaurant space in northern Westchester.

                                            1. re: Nancy C

                                              Isn't MP Taverna in Irvington supposed to be high-end Greek? Granted, it's not northern Westchester.

                                              1. re: MisterBill2

                                                YES! And it's great. Not even that high end, price-wise.
                                                There's a new Greek place in Ardsley too, where everything is home made by the chef/owner. Haven't tried it yet - it doesn't look beautiful or particularly comfy, but it sounds like the food might be good.

                                    2. 1. Casa Maya on Central Avenue is Scarsdale
                                      2. East Harbor Sushi on Central Avenue in Yonkers
                                      3. Blue Moon Mexican in Bronxville
                                      4. Watercolor Cafe in Larchmont
                                      5. Hunan Village in Yonkers after the new management took over
                                      6. Waterfront Grill in Port Chester (it's more of a nightclub now)
                                      7. Al Dente in Harrison
                                      8. Land & Sea in Harrison
                                      9. Le Provencal in Mamaroneck (all you can eat dirty mussels)
                                      10. Boulder Creek Steakhouse in Yonkers
                                      11. Zanero's in White Plains

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                                      1. re: billyparsons

                                        I'd say Peter Pratts in Yorktown. Fodd Ok. Worst service ever!!

                                        1. re: luv2eatct

                                          I'll second Peter Pratt's, food was OK and the service was terrible, in all fairness though this was several years ago but if luv2eatct has been there recently then I can see it hasn't changed one bit. My overall worst restaurant experience that comes to mind was a little place over in Rockland County (sorry,. I know it's not Westchester, but it was so bad it had to be mentioned) called Cafe Portofino, it was horrible from the moment we walked in and was greeted with snarl. It went downhill from there (you get the idea). I also think places like the Chart House, who have prime real estate, should improve their food. Maybe I shouldn't add this one because it is not by any means the worst but I guess I was expecting alot more and that is the Fish Cellar in Mt. Kisco. I really thought I was going to get an awesome piece of fish and I didn't but they did have a nice raw bar. I am also not a fan of Main St. Cafe in Tarrytown.

                                          1. re: luv2eatct

                                            I agree. Peter Pratts is pretty bad. The food was great but the customer service was terrible.....On two different occasions. Jonathan Pratt, the owner, had the nerve to tell me my online reservation "slipped through the cracks"

                                            1. re: drfxit

                                              Ate at Peter Pratt's last night and the service was friendly and helpful, the food really good, the setting warm, welcoming and historic.

                                          2. re: billyparsons

                                            Billy, Everyone has their own experience but I have to totally disagree on Le Provencal and would never include them in the same category in any capacity as the other restaurants on your list. I've had the mussels there many times and never found them dirty or distasteful in any way and, in fact, not quite as good but reminiscent of the ones I've had in the south of France. Additionally, the other food, service and atmosphere have been - again in my experience of quite a few visits - excellent.

                                            If you did get "dirty" mussels I hope you sent them back. Perhaps a bad night or a bad batch. What else may I inquire was so awful that you categorize them with Zaneros, Boulder Creek and Land and Sea?

                                            1. re: laylag

                                              I agree, laylag.

                                              1. re: laylag

                                                I'm so glad you asked. When I first got there, I asked for something simple. Mashed potatoes!! My theory is that if you can’t conquer the “small stuff”, can you really serve a great Foie Gras Torchon or Duck Le Orange? Anyway, the mash came full of lumps and with the consistency of wallpaper glue (Stew Leonard’s makes better potatoes!). I said to my wife, can we please leave? She said “please they’re so nice here”. So we stayed against my better judgment. I ordered a steak and she ordered the mussels. The steak comes from Restaurant Depot in New Rochelle. It’s junk. Listen, I go to the market once a week and hand pick my steak and finish my aging myself. Restaurant Depot is for restaurants that only care about the bottom line. Anyway, uh, next? The mussels were small, maybe 60 to a pound. Never saw anything like that, but heck, guess now a days it’s all about food cost no? But that’s not my complaint though. They were dry, some were closed and they smelled like, well, uh, hmm, a sneaker. Now everyone has got to draw a line somewhere and mine is right about there. I spoke to the owner and he told me “it’s our most popular entrée, it must be you”. I said “of course dork! It’s all you can eat!”. Incidentally, this is the only “French” restaurant that offers an “all you can eat mussel” special. Always, and I mean always, be leery when you see “all you can eat”. But if you like the place, kudos!.

                                                1. re: billyparsons

                                                  Sorry you had such a bad experience. I don't know how tiny your mussels were but as I'm sure you know, in the south of France they are very small, sweeter and less "fishy" tasting. Large mussels are not served there, just huge bowls of tiny ones.

                                                  I've never had all you can eat special at Le Provencal but have had the mussels three ways and they were really good. As I'm sure you also know - mussels are pretty inexpensive so not necessarily something one need be frightened off of because they're part of an all you can eat deal. And, I don't think most of the clientele at Le Provencal go there looking for a "bargain".

                                                  I have to say Billy, from your post it seems you entered the restaurant with a certain attitude - ordering the mashed potatos just to seemingly "test" the restaurant would indicates to me you were predisposed to finding/looking for negatives. Just my inference. Maybe I'm off base.

                                                  To each his own.

                                                  1. re: billyparsons

                                                    It's not true that you can't get quality mussels for cheap around here. I think Prince Edward Island ones in season are abundant and relatively cheap. (I can get a giant bag of really fresh ones for $5 at Whole Foods).

                                                    1. re: jeanki

                                                      jeanki, I agree. I get mussels all the time at Imperial Seafood and have never been unhappy with them. The one time I was aghast at a purchased lobster tail(s), I was quite pleased with the return policy.

                                                      laylag, if all restaurants in this vast wasteland of Westchester were as good as Le Provencal in terms of food, price and service, I would be quite a happy diner.

                                                      1. re: dolores

                                                        I'm with ya Dolores. We need more like Le Provencal.

                                                      2. re: billyparsons

                                                        Funny, I don't consider their mussels garbage and have never left hungry. That's more than I can say for some other restaurants.

                                                        As you say, it's your opinion.

                                                  2. re: laylag

                                                    I agree, Le Provencal is excellent food, professional wait staff. We have never had a bad meal there. We eat there every few months, most recently this past August and the food was as delicious as always. I'm sorry you had a bad experience, I can assure you it is not the norm.

                                                    1. re: chowhound22

                                                      We've had great meals at Le Provencal twice during Restaurant Week (which is coming up again in November). They do a great menu, most of their regular dishes are on the menu.

                                                  3. re: billyparsons

                                                    BTW, I have to say that I really like East harbor for what it is, which is good delivery. I wouldn't go there to spend a Sat. night for a gourmet meal, but so far (I've only lived in b-ville for less than a year) for take out I think they are one of the best in the area.

                                                    1. re: SweetPea914

                                                      I would agree with you regarding East Harbor, with the exception of food we had last Saturday night, it was horrible. We ordered the same items we usually order, however it was hard to believe this food came from the same restaurant. I wish Baos was closer.

                                                    2. re: billyparsons

                                                      I always liked LeProvencal, although I never tried the mussels. I do love their fries.

                                                      I've never been to Land and Sea for dinner, but I have had some meals there for big family occasoins in the back room. I thought it was a lot better than many similar meals where all I get is the standard rubber chicken. But I guess if I wanted a cozy meal for two, I wouldn't be thinking it was so great.

                                                      1. re: billyparsons

                                                        Totally agree on both Land & Sea and Al Dente. Both are vile. It's unfortunate that downtown Harrison has so little to choose from.

                                                        1. re: Shawn

                                                          Have you tried Trattoria Vivolo? We've enjoyed our meals there.

                                                          1. re: laylag

                                                            I have eaten at Trattoria Vivolo many times. When they first opened, we liked them a lot. Over the last few years, it has been pretty spotty. We have had some good meals, but have also been served dishes that, for lack of a better term, were gooey glop.

                                                            A Tavola Bistro in the Food Emporium shopping center is a decent neighborhood place, as long as you keep it simple (ie, a burger or roast chicken rather than the more complex sounding dishes), but it's nothing exciting. I really miss having Aberdeen in Harrison.

                                                            1. re: Shawn

                                                              I've gotta say... the penne al limone at Trattoria Vivolo is fan-diddly-tastic.

                                                              1. re: Shawn

                                                                The only place in the fine town of Harrison that does it right day in and day out would be Gus's and Sofias pizza where the entrees are a wonderful representation of southern italian flavors

                                                          2. re: billyparsons

                                                            I second Blue Moon cafe. Worst mexican ever...

                                                            1. re: billyparsons

                                                              Zanero's in White Plains serves lots of food with little or no taste. The setting is fun; the food is boring.

                                                              1. re: miguel2

                                                                Totally Agree! A place for kids who know little about food in general. The taste of canned Sauces, Mundaine and pedestrian food with a metalic taste. The owner owns a bunch of Applebee's so he's following the formula he know best. He's making Billions! God bless him.

                                                                1. re: editor58

                                                                  This is an odd comment, dated August 14 2011, seeing as the restaurant has been closed for over a year - see http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/713927 . Just sayin'.

                                                                2. re: miguel2

                                                                  When Zanero's was in New Rochelle at New Roc, it was Dog Food! The sauces were 1 grade above tomato juice. They own a whole bunch of Applebee's so there is your barometer of food quality. WP Zanero's is equally poor, but since most people only care about $ that's what you get. In a nutshell, Zanaro's is to Italian what Applebee's is to Peter Luger's

                                                                  1. re: DWeiss

                                                                    You were replying to a post from 2008. Zanaros in WP has been closed for over a year. Buffalo Wild Wings is in that location now. Zanaros actually had a period when they were good (or so I read), when the son of Joe DiMaggio was the chef there. Then he left and it went downhill again.

                                                              2. I agree with laylag too. My experience was so similar - I thought you were the other couple we were with chatting on chowhound as we had the same story - ha ha. I think the same waitress was on. Although we sat in front so my experience was a little worse

                                                                1. The Chart House in Dobbs Ferry. Does anyone go for reasons other than the view? Just awful fish; must be frozen for years prior to cooking. Haven't been in a couple of years. Strangely, it has ok roast beef.

                                                                  Alternative: Eat at one of the restaurants on Cedar or Main Streets, leave your car parked and walk over to a place to view the river and digest. I favor Waterfront Park (at the train station) or the library's patio.

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                                                                  1. re: HamTech87

                                                                    Charthouse is great! I go to Sushi Mike's for dinner then to the Charthouse for wine. Does anyone really eat there?

                                                                    1. re: HamTech87

                                                                      Chart Housebwas awful, and it closed. Now it's Half Moon, by the same owner as Harvest on Hudson, and it's good. Especially appetizers and desserts.

                                                                      1. re: newroof

                                                                        I like half moon's appetizers but I've had some awful desserts there, like a peach crisp in high summer made with canned peaches.

                                                                        1. re: i_eat_a_lot_of_ice_cream

                                                                          OMG that is unacceptable.
                                                                          I've always had great desserts there (they're huge!) and appreciate that they are made in-house, not brought in or frozen. I rarely order dessert anywhere, because it's so often disappointing.

                                                                        2. re: newroof

                                                                          Was at Half Moon and had to almost stare down the waiter to not take my plate to get rid of us (presumably so they could seat the next patron). They managed to get the table next to us in and out in 45 minutes. I don't need that kind of stress. At those prices nobody should be rushed. Never go there again, no matter how beautiful the spot is. And it is beautiful, one of the prettiest in the state.

                                                                      2. I have to admit that when I first saw this post, I thought to myself, how negative. To focus on the bad things about what we all here love...and that is to eat. Needless to say, I couldn't resist and have to mention a restaurant that definitely deserves to be a part of this wall of shame.

                                                                        Siam Orchid in Scarsdale. I don't know if their rents are high or if they have this illusion that Scarsdale residents have long arms and short pockets (because they don't -- at least I don't)

                                                                        But to walk out of a restaurant still hungry, after dropping over $75 fot two (NO COCKTAILS) is preposterous. The food is o.k./ decent and the servings are microscopic. I think next time I'll just hire a car service to drive us to Queens for some decent Thai and we will still be ahead. Seriously, my portion of Pad Thai could fit in the palm of my hand.

                                                                        And for the most part, I've never been really happy with most Thai restaurants in the area. When will some restaurant entreprenuer ever get the clue -- that if you bring GREAT THAI to Westchester, WE WILL COME!

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                                                                        1. re: RawTunaFan

                                                                          Any thoughts on the Thai Place in Ardsley? I've been happy there.

                                                                          1. re: Laurie914

                                                                            We (2 pre-teens and 2 parents) really like the place, but it is much better there than as take-out -- don't know why. We've were thankful when we first moved out of the city that we could get decent Thai there, and our kids have warmed to it as they've gotten older.

                                                                            1. re: Laurie914

                                                                              We love the Thai house in Ardsley. We call it Ardsley's little secret. Good food, good service, reasonable prices and never too crowded.

                                                                              1. re: Laurie914

                                                                                I love the replies (3 so far) to your question! As an Ardsley transplant to Florida, and as an avid Chowhound, I thought it was great that an Ardsley eatery stood out as a really good place, on a thread dedicated to just the opposite. Made my day. It may be quite a while before I can sample that restaurant, but I did appreciate the mention.

                                                                              2. re: RawTunaFan

                                                                                The place in Thornwood (Swaddee House of Thai) is pretty good. It's no Sripraphai, and Tom Yum is better in bangkok, but for westchester I was impressed. Try the duck in red curry.

                                                                                1. re: RawTunaFan

                                                                                  MY wife, sister and I walkd into Siam Orchid a few weeks ago. The waitress handed us menus that stuck to our hands they were so dirty and greasy. Decided not a good sign and walked out. Glad we did.

                                                                                2. I am glad to add my opinions.
                                                                                  The Watercolor Cafe Larchmont
                                                                                  bad service
                                                                                  Rays Cafe Larchmont It used to be good
                                                                                  Siam Orchid overpriced

                                                                                  1. Yeah.. I agree with the two postings right above me. Siam Orchid is pretty awful and overpriced. Plus I never know where to park.

                                                                                    A couple more "bad" places I can think of is Reka's Thai Restaurant in White Plains. It's also overpriced and the food tastes very watered down and all the meats were tough. I would rather eat a Lean Cuisine Peanut Chicken than go to Reka's.

                                                                                    Another "bad" place is Imperial Wok in White Plains. Imperial Wok has so-so food (I would rather go to PF Chang, honestly) and the service is very bad. It's amazing to me what the workers there (managers, waitstaff, hostess, etc) would say when they assume you don't speak Chinese. Unfortunately, I am a native speaker of Chinese (but speak descent English and went with non-Chinese friends so I fooled them!) and I had to listen to all the nasty, racist comments they said about the customers dining there (including myself) right behind me when I was eating there. Totally unprofessional!

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                                                                                    1. re: bearmi

                                                                                      Bearmi - thanks for the tip! That was awful that you had to experience that at Imperial Wok. It really is atrocious how some people act around customers. It doesn't matter what background anyone is from. One person's money is just as green as someone else's! I hope you had the chance to correct their behavior in their native language!

                                                                                      1. re: Sra. Swanky

                                                                                        That is so disappointing. I used to like Imperial Wok, I admit it. Now, I don't even want to verify all the bad press for myself.

                                                                                        I wonder if Reka is still reeling them in with her 'hail fellow well met' hostess sham? I hope not, I hope everyone comes here before they go out to eat.

                                                                                        bearmi, have you tried Red Lotus in New Rochelle? I liked their food the one time I was there, but I am no expert on Thai.

                                                                                        1. re: dolores

                                                                                          My DH and I had a nice meal at Red Lotus, but their prices were high for what you got and the parking sitch is abysmal.

                                                                                          1. re: dolores

                                                                                            No I have not been to Red Lotus. How is the food there? I have gone to Thai Garden in Sleepy Hollow a few times and really liked their food. But since my Thai-American friend moved to her new job in Connecticut, we don't have our Thai dinners there anymore. Maybe I should go to Red Lotus one day.

                                                                                            1. re: bearmi

                                                                                              Yes, the parking in the lot is not good but you can park in the area -- for free.

                                                                                              I only got some appetizers to go, and found them very, very good.

                                                                                              Since there is a complete dearth of Thai in Westchester, I would recommend them.

                                                                                      2. New Thai restaurant opening in Shrub Oak on E.Main St.next week (formerly of NYC). Can't wait.....

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                                                                                        1. re: BearMtnCoffeeRoaster

                                                                                          So, did you ever go to the new Thai place in Shrub Oak? I'd be curious to hear your opinion. I had lunch there one time and thought it was awful. A co-worker who claims to be a foodie (but whose opinion I do not necessarily agree with) loves it.

                                                                                        2. A number of you have mentioned Watercolor Cafe as one of the worst restaurants in Westchester. We go there all the time, and am curious as to why some of you think it so bad as to be one of the worst?

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                                                                                          1. re: pobo

                                                                                            I'll be interested to see your responses pobo. We only had dinner there once about two years ago but it was quite decent we thought. Not sure why we haven't been back. I guess it just didn't "call" to us but "worst" in Westchester"? Not based on our one visit.

                                                                                            1. re: laylag

                                                                                              I wasthere a couple of years ago. I also thought it was fine. Nothing to set the world on fire, but certainly not bad!

                                                                                            2. re: pobo

                                                                                              The food was not the problem, The service was. The waiter took our order and then forgot to bring it to the kitchen.

                                                                                              1. re: pobo

                                                                                                I really want the Watercolor Cafe to be good - but it hasn't been in my experience. Like others, for me it's the service that's lacking. They just seem not to care; and to the point where it makes you nuts. Not that it matters for the food but the name also evokes insipid suburban arts and crafts efforts - strange for one of the few outposts of good music in the Burbs.

                                                                                                There is some great music to hear there though and I plan to go back for that. One of my faves, Amy Correia, played there a few weeks ago. Amy fu#@$% Correia, right at the little Watercolor Cafe. Worth putting up with some bad service.

                                                                                              2. Pagoda, on Central Ave. My broccoli was infested in my chicken and broccoli... and not one piece, the whole container. I would never go back

                                                                                                1. rays cafe in larchmont is a mess, shell of its former self.

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                                                                                                  1. re: chanthem

                                                                                                    Kudos to Billy with an honest and detailed answer. Nothing like restaurants trying to push off Sysco and Restaurant Depot products at high prices assuming no one will notice.

                                                                                                    My vote for worst restaurants:

                                                                                                    Iron Horse Grill - Small portions, overpriced dull and unoriginal menu and overbearing service. Also, small and noisy dining room trying to cram in as many seats as possible making dining uncomfortable

                                                                                                    Ruth Chris - Can they ruin a steak in any more butter than they do? Cannot taste the meat and they are way out of line with their service

                                                                                                    Flames - Sysco steaks charged at a huge premium. Service is a joke and the attitude is horrible by management. Don't bring kids there or you will pay through the nose twice!

                                                                                                    Chart House - I agree with others. Don't go there to eat. View and a drink will suffice nicely.

                                                                                                    1. re: RobMi

                                                                                                      Rob...

                                                                                                      Thank you. I've been bashed more than every other poster on Chow (I think). It’s so nice to see some “other” poster agree with my views. Finally...

                                                                                                      1. re: billyparsons

                                                                                                        Billy,

                                                                                                        My pleasure. I found your comments to be very accurate with a working knowledge to base them upon. No reason to bash honesty.

                                                                                                        I have been to most of the places bashed on this topic and have had mixed opinions. Some nights pretty good and other nights awful. I also see a lot of comments about service and I find that to be totally subjective. What is outstanding service to me may be awful to someone else and visa versa. Humans are very complicated with a wide spectrum of tastes.

                                                                                                        A few of the places on this topic, I have never had a bad meal or bad service but that doesn't mean someone else's experience is wrong. Just different.

                                                                                                        Keep up the informed opinions. If I disagree, I will let you know! :-)

                                                                                                        1. re: billyparsons

                                                                                                          Billy - I thought that last bashing you got might have soured you on Chowhound. Glad you're back. You're one of my favorites!

                                                                                                        2. re: RobMi

                                                                                                          FWIW, I liked Iron Horse Grill. (Been 2x.) Not the greatest food ever, but nothing I'd complain about.

                                                                                                          By contrast, I've had really unpleasant (and overpriced) experiences at Equus (last time about 3 years ago). Snooty, expensive, just not all THAT good. Perhaps it's improved? We'd need an awfully strong recommendation before ever trying it again.

                                                                                                          1. re: asm_ny

                                                                                                            My one experience with Equus was a little over a year ago. Service was not snooty at all. While the food was good, it wasn't all that memorable. I think I wanted to love it more than I did. I'd go there again just to see what would happen if I ordered something different, but I'm not in a huge hurry to go there.

                                                                                                            1. re: asm_ny

                                                                                                              I so agree about Equus. The place is beaufigul, but the food was not that good. And, the wine they actually had differed from the wine list. We went through 3 wine orders - the brand was right, but the vintages were not as advertised and they tried to pull it over on us and hoped we wouldn't notice. The service, also, was snooty and unattentive. Don't bother.

                                                                                                          2. re: chanthem

                                                                                                            Hey now, Rays has alwayso been a mess. But a delicious one. I think it is still one of the best - if you disagree just try their sauted beef with chinese eggplants in garlic sauce.

                                                                                                            1. re: chanthem

                                                                                                              I agree.

                                                                                                            2. Biggest disappointment was PF Chang in White Plains. Food was cold, tasteless, and uninspired. Not much is worse than bad Chinese cuisine, to me - this was worse than the late and not-at-all-missed K Fung formerly in Hartsdale.

                                                                                                              1. I have to say it amazes me how many people bash a restaurant and then follow it up with a comment about all the times they have gone. What's the deal with that? Places I've been to once and will never go back.

                                                                                                                Blue Moon - i went once, tried about 7 different things, and I'm still not sure it's really food, let alone Mexican food.

                                                                                                                The Bayou - terrible cajun cuisine, terrible service, terrible atmosphere (for eating).

                                                                                                                Lotus King - went there for the first time in about 15 years. Still horrible!

                                                                                                                Balboa - italian food, from a box

                                                                                                                Ciao's - their pizza is decent, but aside from that, it's so run of the mill, it's not only bad, it's boring.

                                                                                                                Porterhouse - maybe one of the worst experiences I've had in a restaurant. Horrible,food, horrible service, and horrible atmosphere.

                                                                                                                If I had to pick just one, I'd have to say Porterhouse

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                                                                                                                1. re: jhopp217

                                                                                                                  >>I have to say it amazes me how many people bash a restaurant and then follow it up with a comment about all the times they have gone. What's the deal with that?

                                                                                                                  jhopp217, I usually go to restaurants at which I've not had a good experience a second time.

                                                                                                                  What was wrong with Porterhouse?

                                                                                                                  1. re: dolores

                                                                                                                    Here's my experience at the Porterhouse. Five of us went on a Saturday afternoon around 4:30. There were two waitresses and one bartender working, and the only people in the place were us and another couple. A group of 6 were outside, but it was overcast and they were actually coming in themselves to get beer.

                                                                                                                    We were seated at 4:30 and waited til 4:45 before the waiter who was standing flirting with the bartender came over to take our drink order. We said we were ready to order and she disappeared to fill our drink order. She came back and took our order. We got a bunch of apps for the table, and to be honest, this was a few months ago, and I can't remember one, so that tells you how good they were. Our appetizers came out so quickly, they had to be microwaved. They were soggy too, so that pretty much confirms it. I ordered their signature burger, that comes with bacon, cheese, mushrooms and is supposed to be huge. It was much smaller than what I am used to at my stomping ground (Piper's Kilt & Joe's Quarry Inn's burgers). The cheese wasbarely melted, there was two tiny strips of bacon and a few mushrooms. Oh and I eat my burgers medium rare/rare. This burger was beyond well done. Everyone else said there food was decent, but nothing they'd run back for. My brother got a chicken dish that looked like it was from the kids menu. The waiter came back one time during the entire meal to ask us if we needed anything. It got so bad, my father got up and ordered drinks from the bartender, as she stood right next to him. She was so oblivious she didn't realize it was her customer. I don't harp on service, but this was appalling. Combine that with a downright disgusting burger, and you have the worst restaurant. Would I try it again. Probably not! it too, like the Brazen Fox is a kiddie hang out on the weekends. I'm too old for that crowd.

                                                                                                                    1. re: jhopp217

                                                                                                                      Thanks, jhopp. Sounds awful.

                                                                                                                      1. re: jhopp217

                                                                                                                        Sounds like a terrible experience jhopp but the one time I went in there I had a very different experience. Service was decent - not amazing - but it was a fairly busy Saturday evening. Anyway, I and my friend both ordered burgers - mine the same one you ordered. They were fantastic, juicy, beefy and cheese was melted extremely well. I am very picky about that and have sent back many burgers and sandwiches with unmelted cheese. I hate that. Anyway, both of ours were ordered medium and came exactly that way and were delicious. On her first bite my friend - more of a burger maven than I - was amazed and couldn't believe what a great burger it was.

                                                                                                                        Maybe you had an unusual bad visit, maybe we had an unusual good one. I don't know since I was there only the one time.

                                                                                                                        1. re: laylag

                                                                                                                          I know I'm biased because I can fall out of bed and lan in the Piper's Kilt, but come on, the whole good night bad night thing for burgers disturbs me. I have eaten probably 200-300 burgers at the Kilt, and once, only one time did it come out wrong. And I don't even blame the cook, but my table. I was with 5 people and the only one who ordered it medium rare. So it was possible there was either a mixup or they just sent them all out together and had put them on together.

                                                                                                                          1. re: jhopp217

                                                                                                                            jhopp217, have you been to Squire's in Briarcliff Manor? I find their burger as good as Blazer.

                                                                                                                            1. re: dolores

                                                                                                                              I have not been to Squire's or Blazer. I know a few people who are Piper's Kilt regulars who were less than impressed with Squire's. One who doesn't even love the Kilt's burger's as much as most, said Squire's was your run of the mill burger. He feels Donovan's in Queens is the tops. I was there, and despite good quality beef, they killed mine. Not one drop of juice left in the darn thing.

                                                                                                                        2. re: jhopp217

                                                                                                                          I had a good burger with sweet potato fries on my one visit to PorterHouse - however should it really be critiqued as a restaurant on a site like CH? I would characterize that and the 2-3 others on that strip as BARS that serve food.

                                                                                                                          1. re: jhopp217

                                                                                                                            I never had an experience like this at Porter House. And I personally found the burgers there hands down much better than the overrated Pipers Kilt burgers. I don't get it, because my patty was large, definitely larger than Pipers Kilt's version.

                                                                                                                            1. re: jeanki

                                                                                                                              Jeanki,

                                                                                                                              I'll admit right off the bat, I am biased, but you have to be kidding me calling the Kilt overrated and liking the Porterhouse. I'm not just going by my opinion but everyone I know who has tried both. They aren't in the same ballpark.

                                                                                                                              Here's what you are guaranteed to get at PK's. Fresh beef, with a good deal of fat. Fresh rolls. Cooked exactly the way you like it ever time. Don't ask for medium rare and complain it's not cooked. It's cooked medium rare. If you like burgers well done, well then don't talk to me about food (not you, just well done lovers in general). I don't know your likes and dislikes, but order a blue cheese burger medium rare, with some bacon...throw away the salt, pepper, ketchup, or whatever you put on a burger normally, and dig in. If you need anything more than that, I'm sorry, you are not a burger lover. There's a reason why people wait up to an hour on any given night and it's not hype. It's a darn good burger.

                                                                                                                              Maybe I had a bad night at the Porterhouse, but I'll tell you what, on their best night, they aren't making a Kilt burger. And please, don't even say that the regular burger, after being cooked is even comparable in size and juicyness at the Porterhouse. It looks like the little red headed step child of a Kilt burger...on a much bigger bun!

                                                                                                                              1. re: jhopp217

                                                                                                                                Hey I'm replying to myself. Just had a bleu cheese burger at the Kilt about 30 minutes ago. Despite being a little overcooked for my liking (I prefer a heartbeat), it was great. Honestly, the fries were nice and crispy too. I don't love their fries, but today they seemed a little better than usual.

                                                                                                                                1. re: jhopp217

                                                                                                                                  I am not kidding at all. I WANTED to love the Kilt, and found the Kilt burger completely unremarkable, a small, dry patty that basically tasted like a cafeteria diner burger, and a puny dry bun. I found the Porter House one large, juicy, with fresh lettuce/tomato/onion. I am totally a burger lover, that is why I eat them straight with no ketchup, no cheese, nothing except lettuce usually. I prefer medium rare for most meat/steak, but lately it's not hygienic for ground beef (especially given the recent downer cattle/E coli outbreaks) so I only ask for it at reputable joints. Just because you disagree with me doesn't mean you get to judge me as 'not a burger lover' because that is totally bogus. Maybe I had a bad Kilt burger, but other threads here have mentioned similar sentiments that the place is overrated, so don't act like everyone else on earth only agrees with you. I feel just as strongly as you do that one burger slams the other one down, too bad.

                                                                                                                                  What do you think of Burgers Shakes and Fries at least? I liked it better than either of the above although the breadslice bun takes a little getting used to.

                                                                                                                                  1. re: jeanki

                                                                                                                                    I have not tried BSF yet. Although just from the description it sounds like a greasy spoon, simlar to the Candelight, which people who like greasy burgers love. That being said, I have planned on hitting it once my cold goes away. Want to give it a fair shake.

                                                                                                                                    As far as me being a judge, I just find it funny that people go to the Kilt hearing it's the best and it's become popluar to bash it, similar to saying Luger's isn't the best steak joint. I have introduced tons of people to the Kilt and people practically hug me. The one thing that makes me really wonder about your dicrediting it is you describe it as small and dry. How does a place that cooks fresh beef and a 1/4 of a pound every time, serve a medium rare burger that is small or dry? If there is one complaint I've heard it's that the juice burns when you bite it right away. The only thing I can think of that some people might not like it the bun. it is pretty ordinary, despite the fresh bread that comes in every day.

                                                                                                                                    1. re: jhopp217

                                                                                                                                      1/4 lb, in my opinion is a small burger (mcdonald'sesque)......porterhouse's burger is atleast 1/2lb.........

                                                                                                                                      1. re: southlake

                                                                                                                                        Southlake, I meant 1/2 lb, because if you Broadway it, it's 10oz at the Kilt. Maybe even 12, not sure. There's no way the Kilt burgers are smaller than those at Porterhouse, although in this case, size defiinitely doesn't matter.

                                                                                                                                        1. re: jhopp217

                                                                                                                                          my kilt burger was definitely smaller (and drier) than my porter house burger, period. it was small and dry and greasy tasting (yes its possible to be both), not fresh tasting, period. i wish it wasnt, i wish it was the way you describe it, and maybe sometimes it is, but not for me. i didnt go to kilt to bash it, like i said, i wanted to love it and was totally disappointed. my companion also agreed with me. i'm sure different people may have different experiences depending on whatever, but that is my experience, that's that, and I AM a serious burger lover too, get over it.

                                                                                                                                          incidentally, BSF is not an old school greasy spoon, it is a trendified version of one perhaps. (the website gives some idea of how it is.) I didn't find the burger there greasy personally (maybe slightly), just fresh and tasty.

                                                                                                                                          1. re: jeanki

                                                                                                                                            janeki, all I can say is that maye you got some else's burger who ordered it well. I have only twice ever gotten my burger not cooked like I asked, and both times they realized they gave me the wrong burger. Now granted I'm there quite a bit, but I don't always get burgers. All I ask is that you go when it's not crazy busy, go around 2-4 in the afternoon, and I guarantee you'll have a much better burger than Portehouse.

                                                                                                                                            Not that this is my tastebuds reporting, but my GF went to Porterhouse last night and said it was horrible. Not sure what she ate, so I can't say burger, but it continues it's trend of everyone I know who goes there, hates it

                                                                                                                                            1. re: jhopp217

                                                                                                                                              well others on this board recommended Porter House, thats why I went there to begin with, so obviously not everyone hates it. you dont even know if your GF had a burger, so why are you bothering to bring that up, thats weak. I went during late lunchtime to Pipers Kilt and the place was not that busy. I am sure I didn't get anyone else's burger, and even if I did get a well done one by accident, a well done burger shouldn't always taste as completely unremarkable as this one did. I'm tired of you trying to continuously discredit my opinion and act like my reality didn't exist for me. I have my opinion and you have yours, end of story.

                                                                                                                                              1. re: jeanki

                                                                                                                                                If it makes a difference, I find the kilt's burger nothing to rave about also: small, dry and horrible frozen fries (have not been at Porterhouse though). Once you have one from the Shake Shack, everything else seems pretty mediocre...

                                                                                                                                                1. re: juweee

                                                                                                                                                  I haven't read this post in a while, so excuse the tardy reply, but anyone who prefers Porterhouse's flat, tasteless patties to the Kilt's burgers are bonzo. I've never had a "small" or "dry" burger at the Kilt. Porterhouse is not the worst burger on that block, however- worst burger goes to Lazy Boy. Hands down.

                                                                                                                                                  1. re: Wizzapizza

                                                                                                                                                    Amen brother (or sister) on the Kilt over the Porterhouse, but I have to say, the LZB burger is slightly better than the Porterhouses. IMO. Actually I used to kinda like Dooley Mac's burgers, so maybe that makes me hate the Porterhouse even more

                                                                                                                          2. re: jhopp217

                                                                                                                            The Bayou! Have you tried the fried oysters, mac and cheese, popcorn shrimp, or southern fried kickin' chicken? Stick to those and you may have a better experience.

                                                                                                                            1. re: jhopp217

                                                                                                                              Did the Bayou go that far downhill? It used to be great.

                                                                                                                              1. re: Scott_R

                                                                                                                                PorterHouse has horrible service. Appetizers come after the entrees, annoying and rude wait staff...

                                                                                                                                A friend once ordered guacamole, dipped his chip in it, had a bite, and then had it taken away by another waitress indicating it wasn't for our table!

                                                                                                                                1. re: Scott_R

                                                                                                                                  Chef Greg left it several years ago.
                                                                                                                                  He has been at Ruby's in Rye for awhile now.
                                                                                                                                  I went in and asked the waiter to tell Greg that someone wanted a
                                                                                                                                  Poor Boy---Broke Greg up when he got that order. Came up and said Hello.

                                                                                                                                  1. re: Scott_R

                                                                                                                                    THE Chef left several years ago.
                                                                                                                                    At that point it went down hill. I just about lived there for 10 years.
                                                                                                                                    Chef Greg is now at :
                                                                                                                                    Ruby's Oyster Bar & Bistro
                                                                                                                                    45 Purchase St.
                                                                                                                                    (Smith St.)
                                                                                                                                    Rye, NY 914-921-4166

                                                                                                                                    1. re: Scott_R

                                                                                                                                      I always stick with the mudbugs, i was sad to hear they got rid of the all you can eat special

                                                                                                                                    2. re: jhopp217

                                                                                                                                      Agree about Lotus King. Have been going there since it opened (I lived in Eastchester 1968-1989 then close by in east Yonkers until 2001) and always loved the food. Went about a week ago, taken by friends as a "thank you" for some work I did for them, for lunch on a Monday. The food came out COLD. Stone cold. When was the last time you had food cooked in a wok come out of the kitchen stone cold. We sent it back to be reheated but if I had been on my own and not their guest, I would have sent it back period. I ordered the beef with tea sauce and there was no sauce. One of the worst Chinese meals I've ever had.

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                                                                                                                                      Lotus King Restrnt
                                                                                                                                      36 Mill Rd, Eastchester, NY 10709

                                                                                                                                      1. re: JoanieBalonie

                                                                                                                                        Wow, last time I was there I experienced the same thing. I can't say cold, but not what you expect when eating chinese food. I mean when I get takeout it's piping hot. So how does this happen when eating in. I much prefer going across the street to East Bamboo. Fresher ingredients, wonderful service (especially takeout) and IMO delicious food. As good as I've had anywhere.

                                                                                                                                        1. re: JoanieBalonie

                                                                                                                                          Hate to pile on, but this place went from good to bad overnight. It's almost like they hired a saboteur to work the kitchen. Just about everything they serve is now just...wrong. Wouldn't eat there now if it were free.

                                                                                                                                      2. I would most definitely add Coco Rumba to this list. Awful food and service from start to finish. See my recent post for details!

                                                                                                                                        1. The recently opened Antipasti in White Plains leaves a lot to be desired...like an overpriced diner!! Food is really lacking.

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                                                                                                                                          1. re: bac528

                                                                                                                                            Must have gotten act is gear-just got several good write ups.

                                                                                                                                          2. Does one bad meal or one night with lousy service equal the "worst restaurant" distinction?

                                                                                                                                            I think what merits this infamy is * consistency * in being bad.

                                                                                                                                            If there are restaurant names that pop up frequently, then clearly we're talking about serious "worst contenders." Otherwise, this is just a lot of individual venting. We need a consensus as to what places are REALLY the worst.

                                                                                                                                            I wish there was a polling function here which would facilitate these "dis-honors."

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                                                                                                                                            1. re: PlasticMoonRain

                                                                                                                                              Mine was really 'worst'.

                                                                                                                                              Criteria: a bad experience followed up by a return visit requesting that the offending behavior not be repeated. If repeated, do not return and talk about said worst place until the end of time, hopefully the restaurant's before the poster's.

                                                                                                                                              1. re: PlasticMoonRain

                                                                                                                                                Well I may or not have listed this previously, but I do agree that consistently bad is the key. I am always willing to give places a second try, and or happen to go to appease someone else who might like a specific place.

                                                                                                                                                That being said I nominate Blue Moon Cafe in Bronxville. I've been there four times, and have eaten something different every time. I think the drinks are way too expensive the food tastes like it all comes out of a can, and the service is at best mediocre.

                                                                                                                                                Now to put my choice into perspective, I am comparing it to places such as Burrito Poblano, Casa Maya, Tres Jalapenos, Maryann's, Tequila Sunrise, and even Taco Bell. And some places in the city.

                                                                                                                                                Other places I've consistently had mediocre to bad food (I'm not as big on experience as I am on the food) and been at least twice. Candlelight, Ciao's, Roma's, Sherwoods, Porterhouse, Burke's.

                                                                                                                                                1. re: jhopp217

                                                                                                                                                  The Pier View in Yonkers. Just TERRIBLE. We've given them several chances since we really want to see businesses in the revitalized waterfront area succeed but DAMN. It just keeps getting worse!

                                                                                                                                                  1. re: FillMyTummy

                                                                                                                                                    Several people mentioned the Chart House -- well the one in Dobbs Ferry is now a new restaurant called the Half Moon and owned by the people who own Harvest on the Hudson. It just reopened, so I'm sure people will write about it. The veiw is still magnificent though!

                                                                                                                                                    1. re: valerie427

                                                                                                                                                      I've been here two times. The food is actually really really good but the service is just HORRIBLE. The kitchen has it all right but they need to hire servers who can take a drink order and not let the fact that they are busy affect their ability to pay attention to the customer's needs.

                                                                                                                                                      1. re: SachiArlin

                                                                                                                                                        It is surprising that the service at Half Moon isn't as good as Harvest, since it is the same ownership. I really enjoy the bar at Half Moon.

                                                                                                                                                        1. re: HamTech87

                                                                                                                                                          Can someone explain this whole service dilemma there. I haven't met one person who has gone there who was infuriated by the service. IAt least three sets of people left ebcause they couldn't get a drink...at the bar!

                                                                                                                                              2. I think You're Wrong!

                                                                                                                                                We decided, for my mom's birthday this year, it wasn't going to be Chinese again (her favorite!), but Italian. She didn't want to come into the city, so we went up to Westchester, instead. I had heard from some foodie friends of mine that Gina Marie's was amazing, because the Chef (Caputo) had worked at Il Mulino (a premiere Italian restaurant in the village, and impossible to get reservations at), and I must say that it was totally reflected in his dishes. There were 5 of us, (one under the age of 12), and the bill came to $200 with tax, tip and soft drinks. The staff was very accommmodating, and gave us a table in a room by ourselves, my mother wears two hearing aids, and cannot be around a lot of noise. The front garden is very attractive, and we might have sat out there, but since we had a whole room for ourselves, who could resist? The fried calamari was a fine appetizer, crispy, and not over seasoned, red sauce on the side was v. good. Chef Caputo took good care of us, with a spectacular appetizer platter of bruschetta, slices of tomato, fresh mozzarella and basil, roasted red peppers, seafood salad with my favorite scungilli in it, and finely sliced and fried pieces of zucchini and eggplant. The complete dinner ($23.50) includes a wonderful soup that was creamed with sherry and barley and mushrooms, not to be missed, and also included fresh vegetable or pasta, Parmigiano, Marsala or Francese chicken, veal or shrimp, coffee, ice cream or cheesecake, a good deal. I had a blackened fish platter over sautéed spinach in garlic that was perfectly cooked, and tantalizing to the tastebuds. Everything comes with a small salad that is quite delightful, but I must talk about the dessert. I had pears poached in a red wine, surrounded by a egg/liquoresque foam, a beautiful combination to a beautiful end of a meal. Bathroom and restaurant are both accessible, and my mother claimed it was the best Italian meal she has ever had! Thanks Chef!

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                                                                                                                                                1. re: FoodWriter

                                                                                                                                                  >>The staff was very accommmodating, and gave us a table in a room by ourselves, my mother wears two hearing aids, and cannot be around a lot of noise. The front garden is very attractive, and we might have sat out there, but since we had a whole room for ourselves, who could resist

                                                                                                                                                  Wow! A table in a room by yourselves! What room was that?! Where is there a room available for a single party?

                                                                                                                                                  >> The front garden is very attractive, and we might have sat out there, but since we had a whole room for ourselves, who could resist

                                                                                                                                                  The front garden!? You mean the bar area? Yes, isn't it lovely?! So cozy!

                                                                                                                                                  >>I think You're Wrong!

                                                                                                                                                  'tantalizing'? Wow,maybe I am wrong! Sounds like you had a great time! Good for you!

                                                                                                                                                  >>it was the best Italian meal she has ever had!

                                                                                                                                                  I may have to go back to see if I was wrong! Are they still giving coupons?!

                                                                                                                                                2. Zanaro's in White Plains. I recently went there with a large group and I don't know what was worse the service or the food. Our drink ordrs were wrong, not just once but twice. One guest sat in gum, someone ordered a dirty martini and it came out pink!The food was disgusting! I would not reccommend this place to anyone.

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                                                                                                                                                  1. re: maple45

                                                                                                                                                    AGREED on all counts

                                                                                                                                                    1. re: DWeiss

                                                                                                                                                      You're replying to a 4 year old post about a restaurant that's been closed for over a year. Welcome to 2012.

                                                                                                                                                      1. re: DWeiss

                                                                                                                                                        Just a friendly reminder, please keep the discussion on this board focussed on food available in New York State OUTSIDE of the New York City five boroughs.

                                                                                                                                                        Thanks.

                                                                                                                                                  2. The theme here is consistency....as a fan of these posts I must admit, something must be said for the same establishments constantly listed here after 16 months. Excellent job everyone & thank you all for the candor! My worst due to repeated failure either in the kitchen, on the floor or both (in no particular order):

                                                                                                                                                    - Boulder Creek (Yonkers)
                                                                                                                                                    - Aunt Chilada's (Elmsford)
                                                                                                                                                    - Waterfront Grille (Port Chester)
                                                                                                                                                    - Morton's (White Plains)

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                                                                                                                                                    1. re: RedMeat_n_Whisky

                                                                                                                                                      Love to hear the explanation to why you didn't like Morton's. Forget price. I don't have a love affair with Morton's, but the service is top notch. The steak is in the top 5 of places I've been, and the other stuff is above average.

                                                                                                                                                      Shrimp Alexander for an app, and get any steak medium rare with a side of creamed spinach. Have that chocolate cake for dessert, and I don't care who you are, you're not calling it below average.

                                                                                                                                                      pricey, yes, below average, no way

                                                                                                                                                      1. re: jhopp217

                                                                                                                                                        jhopp217, any idea if the $89. meal for two (1 dessert, the pikers) includes normal sized meat, i.e., not a special 'ice cream half gallon that isn't' sized steak? I would doubt it.

                                                                                                                                                        1. re: dolores

                                                                                                                                                          Not jhopp217, but I recently had the $99 (not $89) for two meal...the portions were all normal sized (in some cases, such as the salad, huge) and I was able to take home leftover steak for a snack for me and, ok, my dog. Not cheap with a bottle of wine, but I thought it was a great deal--I had a full sized crabcake appetizer, a huge ceasar salad, a good filet mignon, we shared a large portion of potatoes and spinach, and then that chocolate cake for dessert...mmmm.....

                                                                                                                                                          1. re: Marge

                                                                                                                                                            Thanks Marge, sounds like it's worth a visit during their special.

                                                                                                                                                    2. I have a few, too. Stonleigh Creek - I understand it changed names now, Croton Creek Steakhouse - they don't have a clue what makes a good steak, Torcha's - now gone, I have one in Ridgefield - Insieme - bad service if they don't know you. Oh, how can I forget - Traditions - good grief.

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                                                                                                                                                      1. re: wincountrygirl

                                                                                                                                                        Stoneleigh Creek is now the Armonk Lobster House. Stay far, far, away. We decided to give it a try two weeks ago and to call it a disaster would be giving it too much credit. Worst service ever. I was a waiter back in the day so I'm usually pretty forgiving about that--as long as they are giving it a decent effort I'm good.

                                                                                                                                                        Our waiter, though, just didn't care. Had to ask for water FOUR times--it got to be a joke. The fourth time (after having to actually stand up and wave my arms to flag him down as he walked by our table and avoided eye contact even though he wasn't carrying anything) i had to say "Walk over, now, pick up the water pitcher and bring it back to this table." That seemed to be specific enough instructions for him, finally. Got the drink orders wrong. Then got the appetizer orders wrong. Then somehow thought my 6 foot/200 pound 17-year old son ordered a petit filet. It was about the size of a fifty-cent piece. The lobster was, to be fair, not bad. I wouldn't go back if you paid me. I'm sure it will be gone soon, but don't make the mistake of giving it a chance unless you have a masochistic streak.

                                                                                                                                                        1. re: ericstratton

                                                                                                                                                          Went to Armonk Lobster House on Friday night to celebrate friends anniversary. First, when we tried to make reservations the number rings right through to a fax machine, so we went anyway. The service was ok. What ticked me off was when 2 of our party ordered Alaskan Crab Legs at 1 1/2 pounds for $40. When the orders came nearly an hour later - they were 2 legs and 1/2 body - it wasn't 1 1/2 pounds crab on both plates combined! I mentioned to the waiter that I thought each portion to be more like 8 oz. he took off for the kitchen. Came back and told me the chef said he weighed each portion to be slightly more than 1 1/2 pounds. Then took off and did not give us eye contact the rest of the evening - dropped off the bill, took it, and dropped it off without looking at us. We could have gone to Red Lobster (YUK) and gotten the same quality crab, gotten more for less money. We left dissapointed and won't return.

                                                                                                                                                          1. re: ericstratton

                                                                                                                                                            I h ad that same waiter. And I was ordering like I was going to the electric chair because it was a business dinner. The food is not bad at all, the lobsters fine, but the service is so bad at this place that it is painful to dine there. I have a client who swears by it, so I have en dured the service 4 times.

                                                                                                                                                          2. re: wincountrygirl

                                                                                                                                                            Just an FYI: the former Stoneleigh Creek is now the Bungalow (bistro strip steak w/ fries was great). Since Stoneleigh Creek moved to Armonk it lost its charm and Pomegranate Martini. I found Croton Creek Steakhouse disappointing, especially the charge for the sauces.

                                                                                                                                                            1. re: byramgirl

                                                                                                                                                              Yes, I've heard that but have not tried Bungalow yet, have you?

                                                                                                                                                            2. re: wincountrygirl

                                                                                                                                                              I've been to Insieme three times and the food is GREAT!!! Wonderful experience for my birthday and several meals with friends and family. We didn't know anyone and they were lovely and friendly. It is a small room and you really do need reservations, especially on weekend evenings.

                                                                                                                                                              1. re: senoritagringa

                                                                                                                                                                I had reservations and we were treated like we didn't exist. While I thought the food tasty, they substituted items listed on the menu without telling us. Between that and the treatment we received, we don't think it's worth the drive from Goldens Bridge. There are too many places that have all the qualificaitons.

                                                                                                                                                                1. re: wincountrygirl

                                                                                                                                                                  You didn't mention the food, which is excellent, especially compared to some of the mediocre places in Ridgefield.

                                                                                                                                                            3. Globe in Larchmont - memorable for its awful everything -

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                                                                                                                                                              1. re: MotherBucker

                                                                                                                                                                Could you be more specific, MotherBucker? Globe is not one of my favorite restaurants, but they make a good burger and individual pizza. IMHO, the food is okay, not great, but it's a fun atomsphere and nice to sit outside in the summer.

                                                                                                                                                                1. re: MotherBucker

                                                                                                                                                                  My GF and I went to The Globe awhile ago. Her meat was way under-cooked.
                                                                                                                                                                  During the conversation with the waiter, he told us the Chefs were fighting with each other back in the kitchen.
                                                                                                                                                                  That is not something one wishes to hear.
                                                                                                                                                                  And not something that should be going on in the back of house.
                                                                                                                                                                  Have never gone back.

                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: Jon1856

                                                                                                                                                                    Whre is the Globe?

                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: wincountrygirl

                                                                                                                                                                      The Globe is in Larchmont.

                                                                                                                                                                      We went there once when it first opened, and haven't gone back because we didn't find any reason to. But from our experience, it didn't qualify as a Westchester "worst."

                                                                                                                                                                2. I have another to add to my list - Chiboust in Tarrytown. The food is just not good - smoke salmon appetizer was fishy. Shrimp "glazed" in moroccan spices was more like drowning in a soup of them. Waygu burger on the "small" plates menu was not waygu - it was sirloin. And, it was huge. I purposey ordered it because I thought I would be a small plate, as advertised.

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                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: ongry

                                                                                                                                                                    Interesting views re: Chiboust... we had a nice meal there with fwo friends about 3 months ago. Waiter was a bit cold at first, but warmed up to our happy group (celebrating a 45 birthday, so a bunch of grown ups). Food was generally, nice wine list, etc. Sounds like things have changed for the worse...

                                                                                                                                                                  2. Worst place I ate in was on on WC Conn border called " Jackavino's ( or something close to that) , a SERIOUS Steak house" .

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                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: steelydad

                                                                                                                                                                      What was wrong with it, too serious? :-). And which town, there are several places that have a border with CT.

                                                                                                                                                                    2. I have been disappointed the last two times we ate at Le Jardin du Roi in Chappaqua, the food just has no flavor.

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                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: grimaud

                                                                                                                                                                        I have to say - we have now been twice. The service is great, BUT... they remove the fat from everything. The duck was cooked without skin which is lovely and crispy if properly rendered. It was inedible. It looked steamed. It had no flavor. The teaspoon of raspberry sauce had no flavor. The potato gratin had barely any cheese, no cream and no flavor. It almost feels like the neighborhood folks like all the fat removed. Lots of the ladies were eating salads for dinner. The first time we went I had coq au vin, and it's so rare to get it. It was not the best I've had but led us back for a second time. At $142 for the two of us, without tip, I won't be back. I'm surprised we got butter with the bread!!

                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: wincountrygirl

                                                                                                                                                                          Just doing this so it shows up

                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: wincountrygirl

                                                                                                                                                                            Went for brunch once... it was embarrassingly bad. A mushroom omelette made with canned mushrooms accompanied by limp, pallid potatoes and
                                                                                                                                                                            a tasteless croque monsieur.
                                                                                                                                                                            I'll see if I can find the photos I took..
                                                                                                                                                                            The food was really so surprisingly awful.

                                                                                                                                                                            Sitting in the garden was nice though and I remember the rolls were good, maybe sourdough.

                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: chowdom

                                                                                                                                                                              I'm actually still in shock that they even served me that duck. And the place is packed. I don't get it. Yes, the rolls are sourdough and the best thing in the place! Worst thing is the sticker shock -

                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: wincountrygirl

                                                                                                                                                                                They're on Savored aka Groupon Reserve for 20-50% off, depending on the time of day.

                                                                                                                                                                              2. re: chowdom

                                                                                                                                                                                Oh no! I have a gift certificate for them (won it in a HVRW contest last year) and had been meaning to go for brunch with my wife and kids, or maybe dinner just with my wife. Then I saw the note about the bad duck and figured "ok we'll do brunch", until I saw your write-up.

                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: MisterBill2

                                                                                                                                                                                  It's pretty bad............... sorry!!! Maybe free it tastes better?

                                                                                                                                                                            2. re: grimaud

                                                                                                                                                                              I too had a less than stellar experience. Mostly flavorless onion soup, the escargot was small and rubber-like, and our Croque's were just hideous. In Millbrook, Cafe' Le Beau is amazing, but it's a ride. Luc's in Ridgefield is OK but Le Beau is really very good. The final straw at Le Jardin was their french bread seemed like it was frozen loaf. There was no body, no crust, and no pull to it. In all, with my Groupon Reserve (same as Savored) the bill was still overpriced and not worth it! You can get your money back!

                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: DWeiss

                                                                                                                                                                                I've been to Luc's and agree - its ok. Le Beax sounds good but it is kind of a hike. Why do you think Le Jardin is so popular?

                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: wincountrygirl

                                                                                                                                                                                  Well....I'll take a stab at this
                                                                                                                                                                                  I had brunch the day of the annual "sidewalk sale" the restaurant was hopping. Young couples, old couples, families...all of whom appeared to be locals.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Attached is a picture I took of a sign in front of one of the salons....I think maybe good food is not high on the list of priorities for some!

                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: chowdom

                                                                                                                                                                                    That's funny and actually, what I was thinking. The ladies at the table next to me were both eating salads - very slowly. We asked if they ever had foie gras on the menu and they said it didn't sell there. Thus, no skin on duck!

                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: chowdom

                                                                                                                                                                                      Wow! Maybe it's good for dieters too, lol!

                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: roxlet

                                                                                                                                                                                        I think that's why the restaurant is so popular!!!!

                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: wincountrygirl

                                                                                                                                                                                          Agreed...little temptation to want to eat...Anything!
                                                                                                                                                                                          I wonder if they would let Misterbill and his party sit outside on a nice day and maybe just order a bottle or two of wine.
                                                                                                                                                                                          Misterbill if you go on a Saturday you can visit the farmers market... Worth it for the goat cheese alone from Arattom Dairy...there is music...bread from Bien Cuit and several other interesting vendors

                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: chowdom

                                                                                                                                                                                            Tell me more about the Farmers' Market. Where and when (their hours if you know it) is it?

                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: DWeiss

                                                                                                                                                                                              Not sure if there will be any changes this year...
                                                                                                                                                                                              Last summer the market was located at the train station
                                                                                                                                                                                              Saturdays 8:30 -1:00
                                                                                                                                                                                              plenty of parking
                                                                                                                                                                                              lots of grass...music
                                                                                                                                                                                              families, dogs, old, young...very civilized
                                                                                                                                                                                              lots of prepared foods...good prepared foods
                                                                                                                                                                                              nice variety of produce from a number of farms
                                                                                                                                                                                              coffee
                                                                                                                                                                                              wine
                                                                                                                                                                                              beer
                                                                                                                                                                                              Arattom Dairy at Rainbow Ridge
                                                                                                                                                                                              Coach Farm
                                                                                                                                                                                              Cowberry Crossing Farm
                                                                                                                                                                                              Pie Lady and Son
                                                                                                                                                                                              Pura Vida Fishery
                                                                                                                                                                                              Savor Cookies ( omg the ginger)
                                                                                                                                                                                              Stone Barns
                                                                                                                                                                                              Taiim Falafel
                                                                                                                                                                                              The cookery's Dough Nation Pizza truck
                                                                                                                                                                                              Bien Cuit
                                                                                                                                                                                              to name a few...
                                                                                                                                                                                              maybe a 10 minute drive from the Pleasantville
                                                                                                                                                                                              farmers market. The Chappaqua market has a totally different vibe. Much more relaxed more like a stroll in the park ...we do a double header on Saturdays
                                                                                                                                                                                              Here is a link for the Indoor winter market that runs through April...
                                                                                                                                                                                              http://chappaquafarmersmarket.org/

                                                                                                                                                                              2. I would say that Spice Village has grown to be my least favorite restaurant in Westchester. The first time we went, we waited almost an hour for our entrees, and when the food finally arrived, they forgot my wife's meal...not forgot to bring out, but forgot to cook it. 20 more minutes and I gave up and asked for the check. Then it came out but mine was cold, so we left. We tried it again as it had only recently opened, the food was good, but the service was excruciating. Believe it or not we gave them one more chance, this time the food let us down (new chef). We are now officially done with Spice Village.

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                                                                                                                                                                                8 Columbus Ave, Tuckahoe, NY 10707

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                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: jtimson

                                                                                                                                                                                  Have to agree with you about Spice Village. This place is disappointing. When we first went there a couple of years ago, the food was very good. After a long hiatus, we ate there a couple of months ago and were totally underwhelmed.
                                                                                                                                                                                  We were under the impression that there were new owners??

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                                                                                                                                                                                  8 Columbus Ave, Tuckahoe, NY 10707

                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: jtimson

                                                                                                                                                                                    That's very upsetting to hear, because while I've only been there once, the food was very good. I went at an odd time though (2:30 on a Saturday), so the place was empty, but I did notice that whenever we asked for anything, we had to try and get the waiter's attention. So maybe service is off. I haven't been back, because honestly, I only have about 2-3 friends who would eat Indian food and it's tough to get them to go for it.

                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: jtimson

                                                                                                                                                                                      I've been to Spice Village a number of times and haven't been disappointed. Their lunch buffet is very good at a reasonable price. I especially love the samosas and chicken tikka masala. The bread is delicious. I do wonder why they served Lipton tea (good as it is) instead of a real Indian tea. No complaints here.

                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: protzman

                                                                                                                                                                                        Spice Village is mediocre. Inauthentic, Americanized food, poorly prepared.

                                                                                                                                                                                    2. My vote includes The Travelers in Somers. Long, Boring, and bad!

                                                                                                                                                                                      1. Is Reka's in WP still open? Last time I was there, a couple years back, it wasn't very good...

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                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: menton1

                                                                                                                                                                                          It is and was on Groupon just the other day! I posted a comment about being wary of having her sit down with you and order extra food for you (and charge you for it) as had been reported here, but I don't think it ever got approved for posting.

                                                                                                                                                                                        2. Dear God...I could post pages and pages on this topic. I have to say in my recent experience it has been Chianti in Eastchester. I have never mourned the loss of my cash as quickly as I did after choking down those entrees. The service was sweet though...they deserve special mention.

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                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: D_LISH

                                                                                                                                                                                            Same owner as the now closed Gina Marie's in Eastchester.

                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: D_LISH

                                                                                                                                                                                              I realize this post is from months ago, and I have yet to try the place, but it gets raves from everyone. I have heard nothing but comparisons to the old Gina Marie's (Fleetwood) and food is good, the sangria divine and the service stellar. First negative thing I've heard

                                                                                                                                                                                            2. Division Street Grill in Peekskill.
                                                                                                                                                                                              By FAR the worst restaurant experience I've had in Westchester.
                                                                                                                                                                                              Poor food, high prices, bad confrontational service.

                                                                                                                                                                                              A must to avoid.

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                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: weedy

                                                                                                                                                                                                We were there for a pre-show dinner two years ago. After a less-than-exciting, error-filled meal, my son ordered the creme brulee. It was bruleed to an acrid, char-broiled death. We asked for another. He was presented with one that, at first glance, looked okay. Upon closer inspection, it was covered with char-broiled bits of sugar that were unsuccessfully masked by a new, bruleed top. They didn't even bother to scrape out the burnt bits. It tasted awful. Poor kid, he felt like they did that to him because being a kid, he might not know the difference. At least he got to see Brian Regan that night.

                                                                                                                                                                                              2. God i hate yelp because so many people on there say blue moon in bronxville is authentic and tasty. I think they are just mezmerized by the large prtions. That place is horrible. I ate there three times and the food was horrible. I felt extremely bloated and they rip you off with the sangria. Its all ice and no alcohol. My server was a tool too.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: FatCobra

                                                                                                                                                                                                  I think of yelp as the lowest common denominator. I read the reviews, then assume the exact opposite.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  I also agree about Blue Moon, absolute crud. Went there a few times because of work a few years ago. Horrible.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: FatCobra

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Blue Moon is hands down the worst restaurant I have ever been to. I was dragged there once by friends who raved about it and as we were walking in they said "wait til you see the portion size." I wanted to run. I knew what I was in for. Then we sat down and we ordered. It's Mexican food and we waited for what seemed like hours. I got a burrito and watched as my friend tried to eat their grande burrito which looked like a white football. My food was so bad, if I was blindfolded, I wouldn't have known what it was. I've had some seriously bad experiences in restaurants before, but when I was forced back there a second time (I was forced) I literally ate two bites and left the rest (which I never do in principles.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    I never do this, no matter how bad, but this is the only place I've ever gone where I've filed a complaint. Two times there and I honestly wondered what I was eating both times I was there. It wasn't beef, chicken or pork or any other meat I've ever tasted. Obviously, I received zero response.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    If I want Mexican, Burrito Poblano is for me. I can call at 6:00, get there at 6:10 and it's bagged and ready to go.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  2. My 5 Worst List:
                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. Los Abuelos Mexican, Ossining
                                                                                                                                                                                                    2. Masala Kraft, Hartsdale
                                                                                                                                                                                                    3. Zafran, Yonkers
                                                                                                                                                                                                    4. Lefteris Gyro, Tarrytown
                                                                                                                                                                                                    5. Mont Olympus Restaurant, Yonkers

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: budinado

                                                                                                                                                                                                      I have to agree about Mount Olympus. It is one of the worst diners I have ever been to. I've never had anything better than serviceable food from it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      As for Zafran, is that the Indian place that was near East Harbor Sushi? It's gone. I drove by the other day and it was closed. I ordered takeaway a couple of times a couple of years ago, and I liked it well enough, but I never ate in.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: Kalee

                                                                                                                                                                                                        OK, may it rest in peace.
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Let's replace Zafran with Gem Cuisines of China on Central Ave. in Yonkers. Petri sized portions, poor quality food and outrageous prices combine to make Gem Cuisines one of Westchester's biggest ripoffs.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    2. I have a nominee: Rani Mahal in Mamaroneck. One of the worst Indian meals I've ever had. My lamb kebab masala was dry and in a bland tomato sauce and my wife's vegetable korma literally tasted like they just opened a can of creamed corn. She couldn't even finish half of it. The meal was so bad, we stopped for a slice at Sal's after it was over - it was the highlight of the evening.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      We still have a LivingSocial coupon for the place, but I doubt we'll ever use it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: kdgchow

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Not doubting that you had a bad meal, but we have consistently had good food from Rani Mahal for about 3 years.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: valerie

                                                                                                                                                                                                          Agree Valerie. Have eaten here many, many times - buffet, a la carte, lunch, dinner, take-out and food has always been very good. Perhaps a bad night but certainly doesn't deserve to be on the "worst" restaurants list.

                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: laylag

                                                                                                                                                                                                            I have to agree with KDG, Rani Mahal is pretty bad. We love Indian food, been to India several times and lived in London for several years (where they REALLY have amazing Indian restaurants). When we moved back to NY we really wanted to like Rani Mahal (it's the only Indian place around), so we tried it twice. Both times disappointed -- dishes were either overly sweet or too bland (or both!), and too much ghee.

                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: decayny

                                                                                                                                                                                                              If you're still in the area, there are much better options for Indian, like Ambadi and Taj Palace in White Plains. I also like Malabar Hill in Elmsford.

                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: decayny

                                                                                                                                                                                                                decayny, totally respect your opinion and experience on Rani but just want to say that throwing out the "I've been to India...lived in London..." type of comments that many do here, to me are only relevant when debating authenticity. I haven't been to India but can assume they have great Indian food there. I've been to London many times and yes, they have vast amounts of Indian there for obvious reasons and much of it is excellent. However, if we were to evaluate every restaurant by those parameters we'd have very few places to eat at.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                I am always optimistic and, being a native New Yorker and former city dweller, know there is exceptional and authentic food of various ethnic origins that can be found - especially in Manhattan and some of the boroughs - I don't compare every meal I eat in Westchester to the equivalent of the item I ate in the country of origin or in a locale where there are massive amounts of immigrants from that country.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                I don't dispute that you found the dishes at Rani overly sweet, bland or that you felt they had too much ghee (I actually agree on the excess of ghee on their biryani) and I am sure, from your statements, your Indian palate is well developed. Still, I've found Rani Mahal's food to be superior to other Indian restaurants in the area. Haven't tried Taj Palace (new) or Malabar Hill (not in Elmsford much) so can't speak to kdgchow's recs. Ambadi is really a counter restaurant good for a quick lunch or take-out. I like it and the selection of Indian sweets but have had good and mediocre experiences there - none were exceptional.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                I'd love to hear your thoughts on Tandoori in Port Chester and Coromandel and Rangoli in New Rochelle if you try them. I'm not recommending necessarily, just interested in your thoughts.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Of course, as with other foods, heading to the city and to the boroughs will almost always be worth the trip but that's not always on the agenda.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: laylag

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  The best Indian food in lower Westchester is Coromandel, hands down. I don't bother going anywhere else. I have tried them all. 2nd best is Tandoori Tast of India in Port Chester.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Best Indian in upper Westchester is in India House in Montrose. That's my story and I'm sticking to it (unless you chowhounds have other great recos).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: chowhound22

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    With you on Tandoori in PC - my favorite so far. Didn't have a good experience at Coromandel, perhaps should give another go since we are in sync on Tandoori.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: laylag

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Huh, that's too bad. I guess every restaurant has it's bad times. Also love Cholo's Peruvian around the corner. It was great, then so-so, then went back and it was great again. How does that happen?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: laylag

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I used to love Coromandel years back but got really turned off the last few times I ate there and never went back. Food went from fresh/well-spiced to oily. But, since it's been a while, maybe it's a situation like Cholo's. Would be interested to hear ....

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    2. re: laylag

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I havent been to Tandoori or Rangoli but will add those to my list to try. I ate at Coromandel years ago and liked it then (notice I avoided saying that this was before I became "enlightened" from my trips to London and India .... oops! ). From the postings here, sounds like I might be disappointed to try it now, but I'll start with Rangoli and Tandoori and see how that goes!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I think there are lots of authentic ethnic food choices in the area, no reason why we can't hold Indian to the same standard. And I guess if it was good but not authentic then I would agree with you (think, Sal's pizza vs pizza from Italy) but in this case the food was just plain bad.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: decayny

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        OK, I will appoint myself guinea pig and try Coromandel again. Haven't been there for about 8 mos. Stay tuned...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: chowhound22

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I gave up on Rani Mahal. I’m not much of an Indian connoisseur but it just seemed like something was missing. I had take out from Coromandel the other night. Spice was great, chicken was good but oh! that lamb! It was just too tough to want to try again. They have got to do a better job there. So chowhound22 if you want to be the guinea pig, try the lamb let us know what you think.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: Sonnyno

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            OK Sonnyno, I will bravely go forth and order lamb :)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: chowhound22

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I just went back to Coromandel and it was excellent. They re-did the place, more booths. And the food is even better than before. Spicy lamb and cashew dish (yes Sonnyno- great lamb), chicken in a yellow coconut curry, an indian version of eggplant rollatini, crispy samosas, soft and hot garlic naan. All fantastic. All 6 of us agreed it was some of the best Indian food we have ever had. They must have a new chef.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: chowhound22

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Great act of courage chowhound 22! I must admit my last takeout of a chicken and a shrimp entrée was rather good so the lamb should probably get another try

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: Sonnyno

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Definitely : )

                                                                                                                                                                                                              2. re: kdgchow

                                                                                                                                                                                                                I wouldn't put it in that category either. It is not just one of my favorite Indian restaurants, it is one of my favorite restaurants - period. Food has always been consistent for me and service is always over-the-top wonderful.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                I've had Indian in London and for all of the hype, I don't think it's any better than Rani Mahal or any other good US Indian restaurant. Yes, London has lots of Indian immigrants. Do does NY. Why should London have some kind of monopoly on good Indian food?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: Avalondaughter

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  why should it?
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I don't know.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  But it does.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  the very best NY Indian restaurants (at the high end invariably) now equal the average London... but the very best of London is still in another class.

                                                                                                                                                                                                              3. Is Gassho still open, the one in Hawthorne?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: BuildingMyBento

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Yes.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: MisterBill2

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Are they any good? I've heard only second hand that they were not.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: DWeiss

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I only ate there once a long time ago for lunch. I was not impressed. I don't like the see parts of my meal flying onto the floor under the guise of entertainment.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    2. re: MisterBill2

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Mister Bill, I'm sure I heard that Gasho's in Hawthorne is closed. Last time I was there is was horrendous, not to mention dirty and the grounds unkept.. It use to be so beautiul, the garden in the back use to be a showplace. It went really downhill and now there are so many habachi places that it never had a chance with the way it was run.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: GIOny

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        You're right, it's not listed on their website and there are comments on Yelp about it being closed (although no one bothered to mark it as such).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: MisterBill2

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Can anyone else comment on Gem Cuisines of China on Central Ave? I found it to be one of the biggest clip joints I have ever experienced. They just had the audacity to send out elegant invitations for their New Year Banquet. No prices listed of course. You can find better food at any neighborhood take out. Way better, regardless of their phony baloney Times review.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: budinado

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I agree. Didn't care much for the food. Prices are ridiculous. I really miss the 1970's to late 80's rendition of Hunan Village.