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Feb 21, 2007 06:16 AM

Standard Tap or Ludwig's Garten

so, we're going out for dinner and beer. both of us are pretty into beer. i want a place with good taps, but also with decent food. not three star here, i just mean well-executed stuff to satisfy as we while away the hours sessioning nice taps. thanks.

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  1. I'm not a big fan of either place, but given the choice, I'd have to pick the Standard Tap. The food at Ludwig's is not good. Why just those two places?

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    1. re: Buckethead

      well, heres my situ: im from NYC and headed to philly this evening. we're going to be goin out for drinks and some food. i did a little googling, etc and found pretty much MONKS, LUDWIGS, STANDARD, BLACK SHEEP etc. we're beer people btw. so, i just thought that monks being crowded all the time was a downer and then ludwigs' menu looked rockin and standard seemed to have nice taps. any other beer bar recs would be much appreciated. thanks.

    2. I love Standard Tap, both for its food and local beers. It depends on where you will be in the city though. Standard Tap is in the Northern Liberties section of the city.

      In Center City, I would recommend Eulogy for Belgian beers. Ten Stone for a wide selection of beers on tap and by the bottle.

      Or Good Dog, doesnt have the largest selection of beers on tap but a good selection of local beer nonetheless. It more than makes up for it with its Roquefort stuffed burger. And its within walking distance to Monk's!

      If you love beer, be sure to try a Sly Fox Dry Stout on tap, my favorite of our local beers

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      1. re: JT007

        I read Sly Fox's O'Reilly Dry Stout is starting to steal taps in Philly from Guinness. I love seeing a macro beer being replaced by a local, and far superior beer. Same style but Sly Fox's is so much fresher, roastier (is this a word?), better....Great beer!

        1. re: JT007

          Actually-I don't think Standard Tap's beer selection is that great. It's usually a choice of like 6 beers, and one or two are out.

          1. re: DanielleM

            Not that Tap needs defending (but here's nothing). I've regularly gone to Tap for 5 years and have never seen them with only 4 or 5 beers available as you suggest above. Secondly, their philosophy is to have local beers (less than 70 mile radius) available on draft and no bottles. Within that radius (as we all know) includes:

            Dogfish Head
            Flying Fish
            Sly Fox

            I believe that 6 or 10 or even 4 taps which include beer from any of the above breweries qualifies as a "great" selection (unless of course we are talking shear quantity over quality).

            Back to th OP, strickly in terms of beer you can't really go wrong with either Tap or Ludwigs. Great taps at both and a wide selection of bottles at Ludwigs. The food is where they really part company. Ludwigs is simply poorly executed German food (i.e. really bad). The Wurst platters aren't completely awful but it's only wurst and it's like $15. Go to Tap and start with the mussels with spicy sausage and a side of fries.

            1. re: Chinon00

              And sometimes more taps (over 10) is a sign of an establishment biting off more than they can chew.....excuse the cliche. Tap lines must be kept clean on a regular basis. The more taps the less chance they are cleaning their lines which makes for a bad draft. When I hear of a place that advertizes 15, 20, 30 beers on tap, I'm immediately suspicous.

        2. Although you'll get some dissenting opinions about the Standard Tap (I don't get it.....always great in my experience), I still think the food is excellent and the beers are, as always, fresh. I'd go with the Tap over Ludwig's. Ludwig's taps feature mostly German brews (lagers, pils, hefes), and The ST is all local...that said, local styles can run the gamut from lagers to ales, from IPAs to triples, from English to Belgian. More variety......more fun.

          But if it's beer and food you are looking for there are many more to choose from: Monk's, Good Dog, North 3rd, Johnny Brenda's, Brigid's, The Grey Lodge, The South Philadelphia Taproom, Royal Tavern, Grace Tavern, Nodding Head, McMenamin's......all beer joints with good food to a varying degree of course. For food/beer combo I love the South Philly Taproom, Johnny Brenda's, Brigid's, Good Dog and McMenamin's.

          You may get recs for Eulogy....go for the beer not for the food. Great bar, not so great food.

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          1. re: G Goo

            Eulogy's dijon cream mussels are to die for.

          2. you philly people are active. thanks. maybe ill be there sippin a pint right next to you tonight.

            1. I think the Nodding Head's beers are just great, they know what they are doing. Good music, food is decent, love the atmosphere. For Belgians, I 2nd the Eulogy.