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Ida Red Feb 20, 2007 02:46 PM

In Restaurants, are Pork dishes ever described as "Medium Rare"?

Last night, as the waitress was describing the specials, she mentioned a pork dish that was served medium rare. I thought this was strange, since pork is always cooked to a doneness and not overdone. My dinning companions did not think it strange though.

  1. hotoynoodle Feb 22, 2007 06:18 AM

    not long ago, people cooked pork to well-done fearing tainted meat. that's not really a worry anymore, but plenty of folks still have the mindset of thinking it needs to be cooked through.

    the server was being proactive.

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    1. re: hotoynoodle
      Covert Ops Feb 22, 2007 06:38 AM

      Right. I've seen people send back pork for not being cooked enough, and this probably happened a lot at this restaurant.

      I ate at a BBQ place once that insisted it was the properties of their smoker that left the pork with a "pink ring" and that it was, in fact, cooked.

      Personally I hate overcooked pork, and like bkhuna I also get thick-sliced bacon bc DH (I don't like bacon) hates it when it's overcooked.

    2. Bill on Capitol Hill Feb 21, 2007 12:36 PM

      I agree for the most part, but I hope we're not including bacon in the "well done is never well done" category!

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      1. re: Bill on Capitol Hill
        bkhuna Feb 21, 2007 03:26 PM

        Yup! Overcooked, crunchy bacon is horrible. I like thick cut bacon because I can get the outside nice and crispy while there's still a little chew left in the interior.

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        strephking Feb 20, 2007 06:28 PM

        Honestly, for the most part the only meat that needs to be well done, is poultry.

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        1. re: strephking
          bkhuna Feb 21, 2007 08:14 AM

          Anything well done is overdone, unless you like your chicken to have the texture of Rye Crisps. As long as the juices run clear, the bird is finished.

          And yes, I eat raw eggs in Ceasar Salad, medium rare pork chops, and I run in the house with scissors.

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            Humbucker Feb 21, 2007 06:28 PM

            Actually the juices don't even have to run clear. A bird can be done and juices will still be colored by myoglobin.

            1. re: Humbucker
              bkhuna Feb 22, 2007 12:54 PM

              I've run across that with brined and smoked birds. If find that it's the dark meat that's reddish, not the juices.

        2. bkhuna Feb 20, 2007 05:50 PM

          I for one like my pork to have a hint of pink inside. In the last couple of decades, food scientists have bred out the fat from commercial pork, leaving it a fairly dry and tasteless food. And since commercial pork isn't foraging for food but fed a strict diet, they've all but eliminated the incidence of Trichinellosis

          If you check the statistics from the CDC, you’ll find that not only is Trichinellosis rare (<12 cases a year) but more folks get Trichinellosis from bear meat than pork.

          1. bolivianita Feb 20, 2007 04:35 PM

            Pork thats cooked til its "done" is tough and dry (mostly) and I perfer my pork to be med.
            In South America where pigs are just left to wander (at least in Bolivia) and eat whatever they find I would never eat any undercooked pork but in the U.S. I feel that standards are quite high and things like trichinosis are not common anymore.
            I find that more restaurants do offer the option of rare, med etc for pork but mostly I don't order pork when I'm out cuz its never done right.

            1. Bill on Capitol Hill Feb 20, 2007 03:18 PM

              As I understand it, trichinosis is much rarer than it used to be, at least in the U.S., and this has made ordering pork medium-rare a viable option. Good pork cooked to pink rather than beige is quite heavenly.

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              1. re: Bill on Capitol Hill
                Karl S Feb 21, 2007 03:24 PM

                You only need to cook past 137F (which would be rare for pork) to kill trichnosis, which is virtually unknown in US pigs bred for slaughter anyway.

              2. hrhboo Feb 20, 2007 03:05 PM

                Pork can be served medium rare, medium, medium well etc. I prefer it to be medium rare and request it if not asked how I would like it. It's the same with salmon, it can be cooked to any degree of doneness.

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