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<topic>
  <id>373148</id>
  <title>In Restaurants, are Pork dishes ever described as "Medium Rare"?</title>
  <published_at>Tue Feb 20 15:46:40 -0800 2007</published_at>
  <post_count>13</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>29</id>
    <name>Not About Food</name>
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    <post>
      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>2311992</id>
        <content>Last night, as the waitress was describing the specials, she mentioned a pork dish that was served medium rare.  I thought this was strange, since pork is always cooked to a doneness and not overdone.  My dinning companions did not think it strange though.</content>
        <published_at>Tue Feb 20 15:46:40 -0800 2007</published_at>
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        <user>
          <id>12037</id>
          <name>Ida Red</name>
        </user>
      </post>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2312056</id>
      <content>Pork can be served medium rare, medium, medium well etc.  I prefer it to be medium rare and request it if not asked how I would like it.  It's the same with salmon, it can be cooked to any degree of doneness.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Feb 20 16:05:03 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2311992</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>21341</id>
        <name>hrhboo</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2312108</id>
      <content>As I understand it, trichinosis is much rarer than it used to be, at least in the U.S., and this has made ordering pork medium-rare a viable option. Good pork cooked to pink rather than beige is quite heavenly.
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      <published_at>Tue Feb 20 16:18:47 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2311992</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>17813</id>
        <name>Bill on Capitol Hill</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2315793</id>
      <content>You only need to cook past 137F (which would be rare for pork) to kill trichnosis, which is virtually unknown in US pigs bred for slaughter anyway.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Feb 21 16:24:10 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2312108</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13819</id>
        <name>Karl S</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2312371</id>
      <content>Pork thats cooked til its "done"  is tough and dry (mostly) and I perfer my pork to be med.  
In South America where pigs are just left to wander (at least in Bolivia) and eat whatever they find I would never eat any undercooked pork but in the U.S. I feel that standards are quite high and things like trichinosis are not common anymore.
I find that more restaurants do offer the option of rare, med etc for pork but mostly I don't order pork when I'm out cuz its never done right.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Feb 20 17:35:28 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2311992</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>27101</id>
        <name>bolivianita</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2312591</id>
      <content>I for one like my pork to have a hint of pink inside.  In the last couple of decades, food scientists have bred out the fat from commercial pork, leaving it a fairly dry and tasteless food.  And since commercial pork isn't foraging for food but fed a strict diet, they've all but eliminated the incidence of Trichinellosis

If you check the statistics from the CDC, you&#8217;ll find that not only is Trichinellosis rare (&lt;12 cases a year) but more folks get Trichinellosis from bear meat than pork.
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      <published_at>Tue Feb 20 18:50:41 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2311992</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>22801</id>
        <name>bkhuna</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2312697</id>
      <content>Honestly, for the most part the only meat that needs to be well done, is poultry.  </content>
      <published_at>Tue Feb 20 19:28:51 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2311992</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>62751</id>
        <name>strephking</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2313993</id>
      <content>Anything well done is overdone, unless you like your chicken to have the texture of Rye Crisps.  As long as the juices run clear, the bird is finished. 

And yes, I eat raw eggs in Ceasar Salad, medium rare pork chops, and I run in the house with scissors.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Feb 21 09:14:00 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2312697</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>22801</id>
        <name>bkhuna</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>2316362</id>
      <content>Actually the juices don't even have to run clear. A bird can be done and juices will still be colored by myoglobin.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Feb 21 19:28:08 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2313993</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10832</id>
        <name>Humbucker</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>2319424</id>
      <content>I've run across that with brined and smoked birds.  If find that it's the dark meat that's reddish, not the juices.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Feb 22 13:54:30 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2316362</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>22801</id>
        <name>bkhuna</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2315157</id>
      <content>I agree for the most part, but I hope we're not including bacon in the "well done is never well done" category!
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      <published_at>Wed Feb 21 13:36:12 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2311992</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>17813</id>
        <name>Bill on Capitol Hill</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2315800</id>
      <content>Yup!  Overcooked, crunchy bacon is horrible.  I like thick cut bacon because I can get the outside nice and crispy while there's still a little chew left in the interior. </content>
      <published_at>Wed Feb 21 16:26:07 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2315157</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>22801</id>
        <name>bkhuna</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2317390</id>
      <content>not long ago, people cooked pork to well-done fearing tainted meat.  that's not really a worry anymore, but plenty of folks still have the mindset of thinking it needs to be cooked through.

the server was being proactive.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Feb 22 07:18:18 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2311992</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>30273</id>
        <name>hotoynoodle</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2317474</id>
      <content>Right.  I've seen people send back pork for not being cooked enough, and this probably happened a lot at this restaurant.

I ate at a BBQ place once that insisted it was the properties of their smoker that left the pork with a "pink ring" and that it was, in fact, cooked.

Personally I hate overcooked pork, and like bkhuna I also get thick-sliced bacon bc DH (I don't like bacon) hates it when it's overcooked.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Feb 22 07:38:52 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2317390</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>12858</id>
        <name>Covert Ops</name>
      </user>
    </post>
  </posts>
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