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Best LA Area Burgers?

What do you think are the best LA Area burgers? I'm always on the hunt for a new place to try, but here's my list so far, although in no particular order:

In and Out
Fatburger
Tommy's
Pie N Burger
Apple Pan
Father's Office

I'd have to say that my favorites are Fatburger and Pie N Burger.

Not been to but eventually going to try:
Buffalo Burger at Josie's
Astro Burger
The Counter
Houston's

Any thoughts on which are the best and which are overrated?

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  1. Here is a nice thread on a burger place that well may measure up to your burger desires:

    http://www.chowhound.com/topics/363871

    1. There is an old fashioned diner that serves delicious burgers at great prices. The Hamburger steak plate with mushrooms and gravy is awesome!

      Rae's Restaurant
      2901 Pico Blvd.
      Santa Monica, 90405

        1. re: Arthur

          You just couldn't resist to bite... ;>

        2. An aditional recent thread on some of the higher end burger places that have sprung up in the Hollywood area such as 25 Degrees and Lucky Devils, et al.

          http://www.chowhound.com/topics/366584

          1. Houston's is a good higher-end burger but VERY expensive, and beware they put mustard on it without a warning on the menu, in my experience.

            My very favorite thick burger on the Westside is at Philly West, a divy bar on Westwood just south of Santa Monica Blvd. Better known for their fine cheesesteaks, the burger is a fire-grilled oblong charred masterpiece served with grilled onions and the usual toppings on the same roll as the cheesesteaks. Fantastic, and only around $5. Beware, however -- the fries are mediocre and the service during the day can be spotty.