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Monday night in SF - Group of 7 - ideas?

RichInMV Feb 16, 2007 09:07 AM

We have some visitors coming (from South Korea) who want "California cuisine"

As they were very nice to my daughter on a recent trip to Korea, I want to treat them very nicely - so I was thinking of the following places - this will be a group of 7:

1. Boulevard (will they be open this Monday - holiday?)
2. CoCo500
3. Not one of the super "high end" places like Danko, Dining Room, Fleur de Lys, etc.

Whatever it is, the food should be very good to excellent, atmosphere should be reasonable quiet (so that rules out Aqua, Perbacco, Town Hall, in my opinion), and should feel somewhat expensive (e.g. I want them to know we're treating them to a nice place.

Three of the diners will be teenagers but all are well versed in eating at "nice" places, so not a constraint at all.

As they are staying near Union Square, any walking distance (up to about a mile through reasonable neighborhoods) would be a plus.

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  1. Robert Lauriston RE: RichInMV Feb 16, 2007 09:12 AM

    Boulevard's open. Perfect if you can get a table on such short notice.

    Coco500's noisy.

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    1. re: Robert Lauriston
      susancinsf RE: Robert Lauriston Feb 16, 2007 09:23 AM

      If you can't get a table at Boulevard, you might try either the Cosmopolitan Cafe on Spear:

      http://www.thecosmopolitancafe.com/

      or One Market, right up from Boulevard. Neither are really quiet, but then, I don't think Boulevard is really that quiet either. One Market will definitely satisfy the 'California Cuisine' request. Another possibility if you could get a table would be Myth.

      1. re: susancinsf
        RichInMV RE: susancinsf Feb 16, 2007 10:55 AM

        Just called Boulevard - all their big tables are booked until 9:15 (too late for us). What about Farralon? I recall having been there once and not being that impressed, but am open to it if there are recent positive experiences.

        Any other thoughts for Plan B? One Market is too noisy (I work in that building), and I have no experience with Myth.

        1. re: RichInMV
          Robert Lauriston RE: RichInMV Feb 16, 2007 11:00 AM

          Two?

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      Maya RE: RichInMV Feb 16, 2007 09:43 AM

      Range, or Zuni?

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      1. re: Maya
        Robert Lauriston RE: Maya Feb 16, 2007 09:48 AM

        Zuni would be good provided they'd guarantee a table in the back room upstairs. The rest of the place is pretty noisy.

      2. nicedragonboy RE: RichInMV Feb 16, 2007 10:25 AM

        How about Roy's I think it's around 2nd on Market or Mission. Hawaiian Themed, but the food is more Asian-California Fusion. Get the chocolate souffle if you go!

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        1. re: nicedragonboy
          Robert Lauriston RE: nicedragonboy Feb 16, 2007 10:29 AM

          Roy's is a national chain out of Hawaii. Nothing very California about it.

        2. Morton the Mousse RE: RichInMV Feb 16, 2007 11:03 AM

          OpenTable can be helpful for these last second reservations. I see openings at Bacar, Farallon, Luella, coco500, and Jardiniere.

          Good luck getting a res at Myth at the last minute. Maybe Coi?

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          1. re: Morton the Mousse
            Robert Lauriston RE: Morton the Mousse Feb 16, 2007 11:08 AM

            Coi's not open on Mondays.

            How about Scott Howard?

          2. rworange RE: RichInMV Feb 16, 2007 11:32 AM

            I love Coco500 but it is too casual and noisy. What about Cal dash places? Not sure of the Monday situation ...

            Piperade ... Cal-Basque
            Aziza ... Cal-Morrocan

            I guess Bacar wouldn't be horrible if all else fails. Don't do Farrallon.

            Any reason for ruling out places like Danko? Otherwise since you considered Aqua for food but rejected it for noise, maybe Michael Minna would be a good choice.

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            1. re: rworange
              Robert Lauriston RE: rworange Feb 16, 2007 11:35 AM

              The food at Bacar's gotten quite good in the last year or two but it's an awfully wine-oriented place. Also, can be loud after the music starts.

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                Morton the Mousse RE: rworange Feb 16, 2007 11:38 AM

                According to Opentable, Piperade has a table at 5:30. Aziza is full.

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                  rworange RE: Morton the Mousse Feb 16, 2007 11:41 AM

                  Just a reminder that calling these places is good too. The seats allocated to Opentable might be taken, but the restaurant might have additional tables.

                  1. re: rworange
                    RichInMV RE: rworange Feb 16, 2007 11:44 AM

                    Well, I took your advice and made a couple of calls - I landed a 6 PM at Scott Howard. We liked Fork a lot and have not been to his "new" place yet, so I think that will probably be a good place to try.

                    Are there any "don't miss" dishes at Scott Howard?

                    Thanks for all the good suggestions - my next several dinner trips are now beginning to form ;-)

                    1. re: RichInMV
                      susancinsf RE: RichInMV Feb 16, 2007 12:17 PM

                      Oh man oh man....while I liked Scott Howard, if you think One Market is too noisy, you are NOT going to be happy at Scott Howard....they do a (great!) happy hour with one dollar oysters and cheap well drinks, and everyone from the FiDi seems to be there. (place is small so noise from the bar spills everywher) plus they have fairly loud music. You might get lucky because of the holiday, let's hope so.

                      Several of us posted on recent DAT experiences there; you might want to look for those posts for suggestions on what to eat, since they tend to pull the DAT items from the regular menu.

                      1. re: susancinsf
                        Robert Lauriston RE: susancinsf Feb 16, 2007 12:21 PM

                        The place is small? Did they subdivide it? When it was Cypress Club and 500 Jackson it was pretty big.

                        Monday's a holiday so no FiDi after-work crowd.

                        1. re: Robert Lauriston
                          susancinsf RE: Robert Lauriston Feb 16, 2007 12:25 PM

                          I asked for the quietest table in the place, which they told me they gave me, and it was about thirty or forty feet from the bar at the opposite end of the room from the bar. There was no other room that I saw, and since they made a point of telling us we had the quietest table, I am guessing that is true (unless there is a room used for private parties only?)

                          My estimate is that there are perhaps 20 tables in the dining room and another seven in the bar (?). Maybe someone else can chime in with their guess.

                          I never went to the other two places, but I do remember being a bit surprised that it wasn't bigger, based on descriptions I had heard of Cypress Club, so perhaps it was subdivided (or more room put into the kitchen?

                          Yes, the bar should be quieter Monday. The music was still too loud, apart from the issue of whether there is a bar crowd. Perhaps OP can get them to turn it down.

                          1. re: susancinsf
                            Robert Lauriston RE: susancinsf Feb 16, 2007 12:32 PM

                            Maybe they did remodel, there are now two private rooms:

                            http://www.scotthowardsf.com/events.html

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