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Pancake Tricks?

NAtiveNewYorker Feb 15, 2007 12:51 PM

Total cooking novice looking to make pancakes for GF. Will buy any mix (or even the bottles of pre-mixed batter).

But what about cooking them? What's the dancing water drop trick? Do I let the batter sit (in fridge? on counter?)? What are the tricks?

(I assume the first pancake will be used to test the heat of the griddle...)

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  1. chelleyd01 RE: NAtiveNewYorker Feb 15, 2007 12:54 PM

    I use the "fluffy pancakes" recipe from allrecipes.com. I substitute brown sugar for the white, use buttermilk instead of regular and add a couple of shakes of cinnamon and ground ginger. I let the batter sit in the fridge to the buttermilk and the baking powder have time to react (about an hour or so) and then I use a double griddle from Pampered Chef sprayed with a little pam. 1/4cup at a time, flip when the edges are dry and slather with real butter and legit maple.

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      rubinow RE: NAtiveNewYorker Feb 15, 2007 12:54 PM

      One trick is to not use a mix. The ingredients for a pancake are pretty simple. You probably either have the ingredients on hand or should have them in your pantry anyway.

      Also, don't overmix the batter: it will turn out tough. Mix it until it just comes together. There will be lumps...but that's OK.

      1. Katie Nell RE: NAtiveNewYorker Feb 15, 2007 01:04 PM

        My mom can make good pancakes from a mix, my grandpa can make good pancakes from a mix, I cannot. However, the other night I made the most perfect pancakes, if I do say so myself, using this recipe: http://www.chowhound.com/topics/36612... You will not fail with this recipe! Also, I let my batter sit for about 15 minutes, purely by coincidence, but then I read in King Arthur Flour's magazine that you should let it sit for 15 minutes for a fluffier pancake!

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          debbiel RE: NAtiveNewYorker Feb 15, 2007 01:23 PM

          Pancakes are pretty easy to make from scratch. I learned using a Better Homes and Garden cookbook recipe, but now I pretty much throw it together, adding in whatever spices, nuts, fruits, chocolates, etc that I'm up for that day (ooh...try banana and dark chocolate pancakes...YUM). The basic recipe Katie Nell posted would also be a great starting point.

          As others have noted, barely mix the batter...needs to be lumpy. Also, let it sit for 10 to 15 minutes before making the pancakes. Do try to make buttermilk pancakes. And, if you are like me, then you have it right about the first pancake. Mine is always a bust.

          When I'm making pancakes for a crowd, I put my serving tray in the oven at 200 and put early batches in there while I cook up the rest of the batter.

          1. bkhuna RE: NAtiveNewYorker Feb 15, 2007 01:30 PM

            I happen to like Bisquick pancakes. Big thick and fluffy. That's what I grew up on and I don't enjoy any other mixes. I've had restaurant pancakes and I still think Bisquick hits the spot! I'm not much into putting stuff in the batter, however, chopped pecans make a great addition.

            I use a cast iron griddle at about 300 degrees.

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              jzerocsk RE: NAtiveNewYorker Feb 15, 2007 01:39 PM

              I put my pan to medium heat or perhaps a little bit lower. I have found this to be the common rookie mistake:
              Even if I preheat my pan for a few minutes, it never seems to be fully heated and the first batch seems to cook too slowly. RESIST THE URGE TO INCREASE THE HEAT. If you do, by the third batch you'll be left scratching your head at why they are all getting burnt on the bottom before they are firm enough to flip.

              1. othervoice RE: NAtiveNewYorker Feb 15, 2007 01:44 PM

                Some fresh blueberries never hurt a good pancake. If you want to impress GF make a heart shape out of anything and dust the top pancake with a powder sugar heart stencil. Guarenteed to win points. Just lightly though., let her add butter and maple.

                1. Sam Fujisaka RE: NAtiveNewYorker Feb 15, 2007 02:10 PM

                  Put in slightly more milk than called for to get better intitial spread and even thickness, and a slightly lighter pancake.

                  1. vicki_vale RE: NAtiveNewYorker Feb 15, 2007 03:09 PM

                    Do not overmix - I couple of quick stirs with a big spoon will do it. Pancake batter relies on the baking soda/baking powder to react with the buttermilk or other acids in the other ingredients to make little bubbles and fluff up the mix. It does not need to be beaten like cake batter.

                    Add enough liquid so the batter can pour easily from a ladle - the consistency should be thinner than yogurt, but thick enough that it doesn't pool and loose it's shape.

                    If you have a friend in Canada, the Loblaws' supermarket house brand of President's Choice Complete pancake mix is pretty good, especially with real Canadian maple syrup. If you're going to take the trouble to cook your own pancakes, better have the real McCoy on hand, not the Log Cabin fake stuff.

                    1. bkhuna RE: NAtiveNewYorker Feb 15, 2007 03:10 PM

                      Thin = flapjack. Thick = panCAKE.

                      That's my word and I'm stickin' with it :)

                      1. L_W RE: NAtiveNewYorker Feb 15, 2007 04:16 PM

                        I remember someone once telling me when using pancake mix to use seltzer instead of water. I usually don't use the ready-made mixes but I was wondering if anyone has ever heard of this/tried it.

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                          Pia RE: L_W Feb 16, 2007 03:10 AM

                          I read that tip in Cooks Illustrated -- they said they tested it and it worked, creating fluffier pancakes.

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                            jes RE: Pia Feb 16, 2007 02:39 PM

                            my dad puts seltzer in his waf!

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                              NAtiveNewYorker RE: jes Feb 22, 2007 08:20 AM

                              Strangely enough...this worked!

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                          another_adam RE: NAtiveNewYorker Feb 15, 2007 08:43 PM

                          You're right that the first pancake is normally the "sacrificial pancake" :) Put it on when the pan seems hot (one possible criterion is that when you throw a few drops of water on it, they should sizzle and evaporate-- but not *too* instantly!) By the time the first pancake is done and brown, the pan will really be ready.

                          If you're using a good non-stick skillet, you need little or no grease. I used to wonder why my pancakes (cooked in butter) were always more unevenly browned than my mom's-- turns out, it's because with less grease, the pancake has a chance to be in even direct contact with the surface.

                          For taller pancakes, you can also drop slightly smaller scoops onto the griddle than you'd otherwise be inclined to do, and then once you've put down all of them, go back around and add a little more. (That way, tthe very bottom part has had a chance to set slightly, you get less spread and more height)

                          I've had good luck with one on epicurious.com called "buttermilk pancakes"-- they're a good plain base, that can be jazzed up with additions or toppings as you please.

                          1. Kiyah RE: NAtiveNewYorker Feb 16, 2007 01:43 AM

                            Here's a simple yet excellent recipe for pancakes:


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                              NAtiveNewYorker RE: Kiyah Feb 20, 2007 10:21 AM

                              Looks good. Thanks.

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                              ESNY RE: NAtiveNewYorker Feb 16, 2007 05:58 AM

                              I like using a lot of butter in the pan. Gives you nice crispy edges which I think make even a decent pancake incredible. I also like to make silver dollar pancakes which increases the crispy edge ratio for each pancake. Also, I grew up eating silver dollars at my local diner so I just got used to enjoying the size of them and eating each in one or two bites so they don't get soggy under the syrup.

                              Regarding the batter, definitely don't overmix. Stir just enough to get a decent amount of the flour mixed in. If there are still some chunks of dry ingredients its okay. Then let the batter sit for 15 or so minutes. The batter will thicken slightly in this time and will get thicker the longer it sits, so make sure it is the right consistency before resting it.

                              1. sweet100s RE: NAtiveNewYorker Feb 17, 2007 03:48 AM

                                I add a teaspoon of Vanilla and a dollop of Ricotta to my pancake batter. People like / notice the difference but can't tell what it is.

                                Best mix for 2 by far are the Hungry Jack pre-measured pouches. These are excellent!

                                I'm currently using Alton Brown's recipe w/ pre-mixed dry ingredients in small plastic 1 cup containers.

                                1. pianochikke RE: NAtiveNewYorker Feb 17, 2007 06:06 AM

                                  A way to tell if they're done (if you don't already know!) is that the pancake
                                  batter will bubble in the middle, then you know it's time to flip them.
                                  The secret to really fluffy pancakes (I feel), is in the baking powder.
                                  That is, if you're making them from scratch. Obviously make sure it's fresh,
                                  and they'll turn out really fluffy.

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                                    Oh Robin RE: NAtiveNewYorker Feb 20, 2007 03:56 PM

                                    Whip your egg whites until stiff and fold in just before making. Light & Fluffy!

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                                      China RE: NAtiveNewYorker Feb 20, 2007 04:05 PM

                                      I swear by the joy of cooking recipe. Its fantastic, easy, always works great. For a super easy sunday morning you can always mix the dry ingredients in advance (DIY pancake mix) and then add the egg, milk, and melted butter when I'm ready to make the pancakes. I use a non-stick frying pan with just a little cooking spray.

                                      The real secret is to add a little cinnamon and vanilla in the batter. I also like to core an apple and slice in thin into rounds, put one on top of each pancake after you pour the batter in the pan. When you flip the pancakes the apple with carmelize and cook slightly. Yum! You can keep the pancakes warm in a low 200F oven until you've got them all done. Real maple syrup is of course essential. Its very hard to go wrong.

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                                        Sharuf RE: NAtiveNewYorker Feb 21, 2007 12:56 AM

                                        My cousin, The Engineer, peels and cores an apple, and then shreds it into the batter.

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                                          jenhen2 RE: NAtiveNewYorker Feb 21, 2007 01:25 AM

                                          It may not be wise to share this here, but in a pinch, I recently made pancakes with Aunt Jemima mix and they were gross. I like Bisquick too (grew up on it) but also have tried the Trader Joes multi-grain mix and that's pretty good. Good luck!

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                                            Sharuf RE: jenhen2 Feb 23, 2007 05:27 AM

                                            Trouble with Bisquick and TJ's Multi-grain is that they contain buttermilk powder. I always use the real thing so I have to read labels to make sure that a mix is buttermilk-friendly.

                                          2. jfood RE: NAtiveNewYorker Feb 23, 2007 05:47 AM

                                            There are a number of little things that can go wrong, that I would minimize potetnail issues and KISS (kiss the gf afterwards as well).

                                            1 - First time use a mix. Do NOT use one of the "all in ones" where you just add water. You gotta have some skin in the game.
                                            2 - Take the syrup out of the fridge or pantry and place the container in a bowl of warm water to warm up.
                                            3 - Follow the directions and BLEND gently with a fork and do not overmix. Do NOT use a whisk.
                                            4 - After you blend the mix, set the timer for 10 minutes and go make a Mimosa
                                            5 - When the buzzer goes off turn it off and place a non-stick skillet on a medium heat. When you think it is at temperature, place a drop of water on the skillet. If it bounces it is too hot. If it sits there and starts to bubble and evaporate, you got it.
                                            6 - Use a soup ladle or a 1/4 cup and place the pancakes onto the griddle.
                                            7 - Leave it alone
                                            8 - Take a sip of the Mimosa
                                            9 - The pancake will begin to have some bubbles on them as they cook . THIS IS GOOD. When you see the edge has a little color and the top is pretty dry flip it carefully. Try not to have the pancake fall on another one.
                                            10 - Cook the second side. Flip onto a plate
                                            11 - A little powdered sugar, to the table with the syrup.
                                            12 - Smile and enjoy
                                            13 - NICE JOB!!!

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                                              pianochikke RE: jfood Mar 5, 2007 12:00 PM

                                              Why use a mix for the 1st time? It's actually only really 2 steps.
                                              Make the flour mixture, and the milk mixture (with things added to both,
                                              depending on the recipe!), and then add the flour mixture almost all @ once!
                                              Not too hard, even for the 1st timer! :-) (Although I do like the Mimosa idea!) ;-)
                                              I also agree with the little bubbles on them as they cook. However, I think that
                                              most people could make pancakes from scratch if they tried! :-)

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                                              HillJ RE: NAtiveNewYorker Feb 23, 2007 05:57 AM

                                              Boy jfood really covered it!

                                              I make the batter the night before. I find the ingred. settle up nicely. If I intend to add fresh fruit or other stir-ins, I do so just before I plan to start makin' pancakes.

                                              Consider adding a teaspoon of almond extract for a light, fragrance
                                              Grate some orange peel over prepared pancakes and serve with warmed maple syrup

                                              Use a frying skillet with low sides, flat is best
                                              Melted butter brushed on a heated pan between every three-four pancakes keeps the consistent browning going

                                              Have fun !

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                                                jfood RE: HillJ Feb 23, 2007 06:13 AM

                                                HJ, you got me inspired this morning with your Food Snob/Lover comment.

                                                If the OP really wants to impress, slice a couple of strawberries 3/4 the way through, fan carefully and place on the plate. Then for the piece de resistance, one beautiful rose in a simple vase on the table.

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                                                  HillJ RE: jfood Feb 23, 2007 07:50 AM

                                                  ah shucks jfood-there's enuf inspiration on these threads to last countless food -eatin life times! best, HillJ.

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                                                bettyb RE: NAtiveNewYorker Mar 5, 2007 06:49 AM

                                                Stonewall Kitchens pancake mix never fails, but add more vanilla extract

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                                                  pianochikke RE: bettyb Mar 5, 2007 12:04 PM

                                                  Interesting! Why use vanilla extract?
                                                  I have a slightly "older" Fannie Farmer recipe/cookbook,
                                                  that doesn't call for any vanilla extract.
                                                  What does that do to the pancakes? Just curious.
                                                  I might just try that! :-)

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                                                    bettyb RE: pianochikke Mar 23, 2007 01:06 PM

                                                    I add either vanilla extract or powder (powder's better for this, but I don't always have it) it tends to cut any "doughy" flavor you might have, and it just enhances the flavor. I also put a little extract in the syrup, which again gives it a fuller, richer flavor. Try it and enjoy!

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                                                  JIRodriguez RE: NAtiveNewYorker Mar 23, 2007 03:16 PM

                                                  If you can find it there is a great pancake mix called "Snoqualmi Falls Pancake Mix". It comes from the Pacific NW and is realy quite good as far a mixes go. I has lots of flavor and doesn't make the gumy pasty pancakes most mixes do. It also doubles for a nice waffle mix as well.

                                                  After you get a little experience under your belt there is a book called the "Bread Bible" that has some wonderfull breakfast ideas (pancakes, scones, coffee cake, ect.). The buttermilk pancakes from the bread bible are really good.


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                                                    bite bite RE: NAtiveNewYorker Mar 23, 2007 03:38 PM

                                                    Okay, I see a bunch or warnings here not to over-mix and just have to pipe in with a counter-warning -- still have shuddery memories of my dear well-intentioned dad's pancakes with clumps of raw flour and backing powder/soda in them and it was truly a dreadful experience biting into one of them. Have issues with pancakes to this day because of it. Just had to put that out there.

                                                    When I do make pancakes for little bite-bite 2 which I actually do quite a bit, I use Whole Foods pancake mix out of laziness (some day will motivate to make mixture myself and keep in a tin) and add the suggested optional egg. Personally I don't worry about the water-drop thing. Just melt butter in pan at medium temp (too high and it will burn, too low and it can get butter-logged and do adjust temp depending on how first pancake cooks). When butter is sizzling, pour in 1/4 cup or less pancake mixture, wait until batter gets bubbly on top and flip over. Sometimes add blueberries, chocolate chips or bananas to uncooked top side while underside is cooking. Have noticed that when I make too much batter and leave in fridge, it is a little bubblier/fluffier that next day.

                                                    BTW -- Making pancakes for the first time for the girlfriend too adorable. Good luck!

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                                                      Diana RE: NAtiveNewYorker Mar 23, 2007 03:39 PM

                                                      Funny, I found Krusteez to be a good mix. Bisquick is OK. Frankly, the ingredients are so basic and easy to put together, from scratch doesn't take too much longer. that little bit of salt is important for flavor!

                                                      As everyone said, definitey let it rest.

                                                      I like to mix in canned pumpkin and cinnamon, nutmeg, cloves, allspice and ginger. (or, heck, pumpkin pie mix).

                                                      or perhaps some very mushy bananas.

                                                      My sister in law drops chocolate chunks into my nephew's pancakes.

                                                      Adding some rolled oats into the batter before setting can add nice texture.

                                                      John o' Groats, on Pico in L.A. does a pancake with lemon curd and powdered sugar on top.

                                                      My mother used to make very thin english/european pancakes for Pancake Day (Shrove Tuesday). We'd cover them in lemon juice, butter and sugar, roll them up and eat them that way. Every Pancake Day we'd have them for dinner.


                                                      Oh, yes, and buy a dog so you have someone to give all the "first pancakes" to. That's some sort of law, I think :)

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                                                        bite bite RE: Diana Mar 23, 2007 03:40 PM

                                                        My dad does the same thing -- Easter pancakes -- yum!

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