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Albuquerque: Best of?

I will be in Albuquerque this coming weekend, and am looking for the best of the following:
-mexican (not New Mexican)
-pizza (I'm from New York)
-thai
-middle eastern or any other notable ethnic cuisines

I am looking for something akin in quality to Barrio Cafe and Pizzeria Bianco in PHX. Any ideas for a spectacular, non-pretentious culinary extravaganza in ABQ??

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  1. Your traveling to New Mexico.

    Why not New Mexican?

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    1. re: Grey

      I'm not adverse to eating New Mexican cuisine, just was in the mood for Mexican. Ok, in that case.. what is the best New Mexican? Additionally, how about any Oaxacan places?

      1. re: es1355a

        Try the enchiladas at El Patio. Beans, rice, corn tortillas surrounding a filling.
        It seems a typical Mexican dish but has the New Mexico spin. The Wow factor is in the sauce(s).

        In most of the Southwest, it's rare to get a choice. The typical bland, brown stuff is painted on. Or they might offer a green variety, which is often a change of pace, but not of blah taste.

        Patriotic New Mexicans will debate what makes a good red versus green sauce with the same passion as NY Pizza vs. Chicago. Or Memphis BBQ versus Texas versus K.C.

        Regardless, get the enchiladas and have one smothered green, the other red. They'll split it up. And you'll be in heaven.

        I'll defer to the locals for other advice.

    2. Indeed. Why would a New Yawker want to try pizza in ABQ?

      When in Rome...

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      1. re: GroovinGourmet

        Curiously, I have found that sometimes the best "New York" pizza is not in NY at all.. I think Pizzeria Bianco is better than anything I have tried in NY (and I've tried them all), save possibly Grimaldi's and Patsy's in Harlem.

      2. Not pizza, not Mexican, not Thai, and not Middle Eastern, but still the best meal in Albuquerque:

        Slate.

        Don't miss it.

        1. I don't know about Thai, but there is a great dim sum place on Cornell and Lead. I've been eating there foe over 20 years. It's a dive...but oh so good!

          It's called AmerAsia

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          1. re: tattud_gurl

            Eh. I was disappointed by AmerAsia. Not as much variety as I'd hoped (lots of similar things), several items not very flavorful and/or mushy. One was just a mess. Yuckity. Maybe I should try again.

            1. re: juster

              Try Ming's Dynasty on Eubank next time. Great Dim Sum on the weekends. I've never been disappointed.

          2. Best NY style pizza is Giovanni's on San Pedro SE. It's better than many NY pizzas I get in NY. Make sure you go when the owner, Rosario, is working, or I can't vouch for what you get.

            Middle Eastern is tough - best Palestinian is probably Petra on Harvard SE. Best Persian (only Persian?) is Pars Cuisine on the I-25 frontage road near Jefferson NE.

            Can't speak to best Mexican - I like Ruben's Grill on Candelaria NE just E of Eubank for antojito-type stuff. El Norteño can be a little more cerebral - depends on who's cooking.

            Can't speak to best Thai - there's a lot of good Thai. Good Vietnamese, too.

            1. I put this together FYI. These are all places I have eaten at and consider my favorites. I have not included any national chains. I hope you can use this info. I probably missed some;
              $$ means expensive; type of food is indicated if title of restaurant isn't clear; general location given. All are in ABQ proper unless otherwise noted.

              Local chains with mulitple locations:
              Garcia's Kitchen - New Mexican
              Little Anita's - New Mexican
              Flying Star - coffee, desserts, good food; eclectic
              Dions - pizza [best chain]
              Papa Johns - pizza
              Garduno's - mexican [pretty run of the mill]
              Weck's -breakfast
              Souper Salad
              [Don't bother with seafood, chinese as these just aren't worth it here]

              Abuelita's New Mexican Kitchen [about 25 minutes north of ABQ] on the way to Santa Fe
              621 S CAMINO DEL PUEBLO
              BERNALILLO, NM
              (505)867-9988

              Al's NYPD Pizza - downtown
              (505) 766-6973
              215 Central Ave Nw

              Ambrozia Cafe $$ contemporart[Old town]
              505/242-6560
              108 Rio Grande Blvd. NW,

              Artichoke Cafe $$- eclectic, contemporary American
              (505) 243-0200
              424 Central Ave SE

              Barelas Coffee House - New Mexican Food
              (505) 843-7577
              1502 4th St SW

              Casa de benavidez New Mexican - north valley [ 20 minutes ]
              505/898-3311
              8032 4th St. NW,

              Cervantes - New Mexican Food
              (505) 262-2253
              5801 Gibson Blvd Se [near airport]

              Duran's Central Pharmacy New Mexican/SW
              [old Town; don't let name fool you]
              505/247-4141
              1815 Central Ave. NW

              El Patio New Mexican/SW [Univ area]
              505/268-4245
              142 Harvard St. NE

              El Modelo Mexican Foods
              (505) 242-1843
              1715 2nd St Sw

              El Pinto New Mexican [20 minutes north of ABQ; on way to santa Fe]
              (505) 898-1771
              10500 4th St NW

              Graze $$ contemporary [Nob Hill]
              505/268-4729
              3128 Central Ave. SE

              Gold Street Cafe - american [downtown]
              505/765-1633
              218 Gold Ave. SW

              Frontier - new mexican, across from Univ. of NM
              (505) 266-0550
              2400 Central Ave SE

              Great American Land & Cattle $$ steak
              505-292-1510
              1550 Tramway Blvd NE

              Il Vicino Wood Oven pizza - Nob hill/University area
              [also various locations]
              (505) 266-7855
              3403 Central Ave NE

              La Crepe Michelle - french, in Old Town
              (505) 242-1251
              400 San Felipe St Nw

              Los Cuates New Mexican
              (505) 255-5079
              4901 Lomas Blvd NE

              The Melting Pot - fondue; in Old Town
              (505) 843-6358
              2011 Mountain Rd Nw

              Pars - mediterranean
              (505) 345-5156
              4320 25 Way NE [near movie complex at Jefferson & I 25]

              Powdrells BBQ
              (505) 298-6766
              11301 Central Ave Ne
              and
              (505) 345-8086
              5209 4th St Nw

              Quarters - BBQ [near Airport]
              505/843-7505
              801 Yale Blvd. SE

              Ranchers Club $$
              ABQ Hilton
              505/889-8071
              1901 University Blvd. NE

              Range Cafe - new mexican and american [good]
              multiple locations
              (505) 293-2633
              4200 Wyoming Blvd Ne B2

              Robbs Ribbs BBQ
              (505) 884-7422
              3000 San Pdro Dr Ne Ste C

              Rudy's BBQ
              (505) 884-4000
              2321 Carlisle Blvd Ne

              Sadies -New Mexican
              (505) 345-5339
              6230 4th St NW

              Scalo - northern Italian $$ [Nob Hill]
              505/255-8781
              3500 Central Ave. SE

              Seasons Rotisserie & Grill $$ [Old Town]
              505/766-5100
              2031 Mountain Rd. NW,

              Yanni's - mediterranean/greek [Nob Hill/Univ area]
              (505) 268-9250
              3109 Central Ave Ne

              Zinc Wine Bar $$ contemporary [Nob Hill]
              505/254-9462
              3009 Central Ave. NE

              Rt. 66 Diner [not my favorite, but has it's fans] [west of Univ. area]
              505/247-1421
              1405 Central Ave. NE

              Enjoy!

              Debi


              Author: DebitNM (debits2000@aol.com)
              Date: 01/01/2007, 10:28 pm
              I put this together FYI. These are all places I have eaten at and consider my favorites. I have not included any national chains. I hope you can use this info. I probably missed some; I'll come back and add more if I think of them.
              $$ means expensive; type of food is indicated if title of restaurant isn't clear; general location given. All are in ABQ proper unless otherwise noted.

              Please feel free to add on your favorites!

              Local chains with mulitple locations:
              Garcia's Kitchen - New Mexican
              Little Anita's - New Mexican
              Flying Star - coffee, desserts, good food; eclectic
              Dions - pizza [best chain]
              Papa Johns - pizza
              Garduno's - mexican [pretty run of the mill]
              Weck's -breakfast
              Souper Salad
              [Don't bother with seafood, chinese as these just aren't worth it here]

              Abuelita's New Mexican Kitchen [about 25 minutes north of ABQ] on the way to Santa Fe
              621 S CAMINO DEL PUEBLO
              BERNALILLO, NM
              (505)867-9988

              Al's NYPD Pizza - downtown
              (505) 766-6973
              215 Central Ave Nw

              Ambrozia Cafe $$ contemporart[Old town]
              505/242-6560
              108 Rio Grande Blvd. NW,

              Artichoke Cafe $$- eclectic, contemporary American
              (505) 243-0200
              424 Central Ave SE

              Barelas Coffee House - New Mexican Food
              (505) 843-7577
              1502 4th St SW

              Casa de benavidez New Mexican - north valley [ 20 minutes ]
              505/898-3311
              8032 4th St. NW,

              Cervantes - New Mexican Food
              (505) 262-2253
              5801 Gibson Blvd Se [near airport]

              Duran's Central Pharmacy New Mexican/SW
              [old Town; don't let name fool you]
              505/247-4141
              1815 Central Ave. NW

              El Patio New Mexican/SW [Univ area]
              505/268-4245
              142 Harvard St. NE

              El Modelo Mexican Foods
              (505) 242-1843
              1715 2nd St Sw

              El Pinto New Mexican [20 minutes north of ABQ; on way to santa Fe]
              (505) 898-1771
              10500 4th St NW

              Graze $$ contemporary [Nob Hill]
              505/268-4729
              3128 Central Ave. SE

              Gold Street Cafe - american [downtown]
              505/765-1633
              218 Gold Ave. SW

              Frontier - new mexican, across from Univ. of NM
              (505) 266-0550
              2400 Central Ave SE

              Great American Land & Cattle $$ steak
              505-292-1510
              1550 Tramway Blvd NE

              Il Vicino Wood Oven pizza - Nob hill/University area
              [also various locations]
              (505) 266-7855
              3403 Central Ave NE

              La Crepe Michelle - french, in Old Town
              (505) 242-1251
              400 San Felipe St Nw

              Los Cuates New Mexican
              (505) 255-5079
              4901 Lomas Blvd NE

              The Melting Pot - fondue; in Old Town
              (505) 843-6358
              2011 Mountain Rd Nw

              Pars - mediterranean
              (505) 345-5156
              4320 25 Way NE [near movie complex at Jefferson & I 25]

              Powdrells BBQ
              (505) 298-6766
              11301 Central Ave Ne
              and
              (505) 345-8086
              5209 4th St Nw

              Quarters - BBQ [near Airport]
              505/843-7505
              801 Yale Blvd. SE

              Ranchers Club $$
              ABQ Hilton
              505/889-8071
              1901 University Blvd. NE

              Range Cafe - new mexican and american [good]
              multiple locations
              (505) 293-2633
              4200 Wyoming Blvd Ne B2

              Robbs Ribbs BBQ
              (505) 884-7422
              3000 San Pdro Dr Ne Ste C

              Rudy's BBQ
              (505) 884-4000
              2321 Carlisle Blvd Ne

              Sadies -New Mexican
              (505) 345-5339
              6230 4th St NW

              Scalo - northern Italian $$ [Nob Hill]
              505/255-8781
              3500 Central Ave. SE

              Seasons Rotisserie & Grill $$ [Old Town]
              505/766-5100
              2031 Mountain Rd. NW,

              Yanni's - mediterranean/greek [Nob Hill/Univ area]
              (505) 268-9250
              3109 Central Ave Ne

              Zinc Wine Bar $$ contemporary [Nob Hill]
              505/254-9462
              3009 Central Ave. NE

              Rt. 66 Diner [not my favorite, but has it's fans] [west of Univ. area]
              505/247-1421
              1405 Central Ave. NE

              Enjoy!

              put this together FYI. These are all places I have eaten at and consider my favorites. I have not included any national chains. I hope you can use this info. I probably missed some; I'll come back and add more if I think of them.
              $$ means expensive; type of food is indicated if title of restaurant isn't clear; general location given. All are in ABQ proper unless otherwise noted.

              Please feel free to add on your favorites!

              Local chains with mulitple locations:
              Garcia's Kitchen - New Mexican
              Little Anita's - New Mexican
              Flying Star - coffee, desserts, good food; eclectic
              Dions - pizza [best chain]
              Papa Johns - pizza
              Garduno's - mexican [pretty run of the mill]
              Weck's -breakfast
              Souper Salad
              [Don't bother with seafood, chinese as these just aren't worth it here]

              Abuelita's New Mexican Kitchen [about 25 minutes north of ABQ] on the way to Santa Fe
              621 S CAMINO DEL PUEBLO
              BERNALILLO, NM
              (505)867-9988

              Al's NYPD Pizza - downtown
              (505) 766-6973
              215 Central Ave Nw

              Ambrozia Cafe $$ contemporart[Old town]
              505/242-6560
              108 Rio Grande Blvd. NW,

              Artichoke Cafe $$- eclectic, contemporary American
              (505) 243-0200
              424 Central Ave SE

              Barelas Coffee House - New Mexican Food
              (505) 843-7577
              1502 4th St SW

              Casa de benavidez New Mexican - north valley [ 20 minutes ]
              505/898-3311
              8032 4th St. NW,

              Cervantes - New Mexican Food
              (505) 262-2253
              5801 Gibson Blvd Se [near airport]

              Duran's Central Pharmacy New Mexican/SW
              [old Town; don't let name fool you]
              505/247-4141
              1815 Central Ave. NW

              El Patio New Mexican/SW [Univ area]
              505/268-4245
              142 Harvard St. NE

              El Modelo Mexican Foods
              (505) 242-1843
              1715 2nd St Sw

              El Pinto New Mexican [20 minutes north of ABQ; on way to santa Fe]
              (505) 898-1771
              10500 4th St NW

              Graze $$ contemporary [Nob Hill]
              505/268-4729
              3128 Central Ave. SE

              Gold Street Cafe - american [downtown]
              505/765-1633
              218 Gold Ave. SW

              Frontier - new mexican, across from Univ. of NM
              (505) 266-0550
              2400 Central Ave SE

              Great American Land & Cattle $$ steak
              505-292-1510
              1550 Tramway Blvd NE

              Il Vicino Wood Oven pizza - Nob hill/University area
              [also various locations]
              (505) 266-7855
              3403 Central Ave NE

              La Crepe Michelle - french, in Old Town
              (505) 242-1251
              400 San Felipe St Nw

              Los Cuates New Mexican
              (505) 255-5079
              4901 Lomas Blvd NE

              The Melting Pot - fondue; in Old Town
              (505) 843-6358
              2011 Mountain Rd Nw

              Pars - mediterranean
              (505) 345-5156
              4320 25 Way NE [near movie complex at Jefferson & I 25]

              Powdrells BBQ
              (505) 298-6766
              11301 Central Ave Ne
              and
              (505) 345-8086
              5209 4th St Nw

              Quarters - BBQ [near Airport]
              505/843-7505
              801 Yale Blvd. SE

              Ranchers Club $$
              ABQ Hilton
              505/889-8071
              1901 University Blvd. NE

              Range Cafe - new mexican and american [good]
              multiple locations
              (505) 293-2633
              4200 Wyoming Blvd Ne B2

              Robbs Ribbs BBQ
              (505) 884-7422
              3000 San Pdro Dr Ne Ste C

              Rudy's BBQ
              (505) 884-4000
              2321 Carlisle Blvd Ne

              Sadies -New Mexican
              (505) 345-5339
              6230 4th St NW

              Scalo - northern Italian $$ [Nob Hill]
              505/255-8781
              3500 Central Ave. SE

              Seasons Rotisserie & Grill $$ [Old Town]
              505/766-5100
              2031 Mountain Rd. NW,

              Yanni's - mediterranean/greek [Nob Hill/Univ area]
              (505) 268-9250
              3109 Central Ave Ne

              Zinc Wine Bar $$ contemporary [Nob Hill]
              505/254-9462
              3009 Central Ave. NE

              Rt. 66 Diner [not my favorite, but has it's fans] [west of Univ. area]
              505/247-1421
              1405 Central Ave. NE

              1 Reply
              1. re: DebitNM

                sending this to the top for reference for posters looking for places to eat in ABQ area.
                Debi

                1. re: DebitNM

                  DebitNM, your list is very thorough and will be helpful to visitors to Albuquerque, Much credit for your work on this. As a resident here, there are a few problems that have crept into the list lately however. In order not to mislead the visitor, I will note that:

                  1. Ambrozia is closed and former Chef Sam Etheridge is now at Nob Hill Bar and Grill.

                  2. Nob Hill Bar and Grill is located where Graze used to be and former Graze Chef Jennnifer James is now at Jennifer James 101 on Menaul Boulevard.

                  3. Great American Land and Cattle is defunct, as is Robb's Ribbs BBQ.

                  4. There are some new spots in town that are pretty good, but I won't presume to add to your list.

                  1. re: rpl

                    Please DO add to the list. I know that it needs to be updated, I am aware of the changes you have listed. I thought I had posted an update. I would edit the list but I don't think I can edit such an old post.

                    I would also add Mad Maxx's and Banana Leaf [great duck!] both in Rio Rancho on 528.
                    Deb

                2. Welcome to Albuquerque...

                  Don't bother with pizza. Giovanni's is too hit and (mostly) miss to waste a weekend on. Dion's is good--for chain pizza, but that's all it is. I wouldn't feed Papa John's pizza to my dog. Try Pudge Brother's white pizza if you must have local pizza. But, face it, you're in New Mexico where Olive Garden is considered the "good" Italian place. Make it a pass.

                  Eat like a New Mexican while you're here. Try a Blake's Lotaburger with cheese and green chile. Go to Garcia's for menudo and chicharones and biscochitos. Eat tamales from El Modelo and empanadas dulces from Golden Crown Panaderia. Mariscos for Mexican style seafood. The Frontier for carne adovada burritos. No one who knows New Mexican food eats at Sadie's since they moved it from over the bowling alley. Casa de Benavides's food is not worth it, but their margaritas will kick your ass.

                  Saigon for pho and avacado shakes. Powdrell's on 4th Street (NOT the Central location) for BBQ.
                  Gyros at Gyros. Route 66 Diner for green chile cheese fries and blueberry pie a la mode. ABC for Chinese that will blow your mind. (All the Chinese grad students from UNM eat there.)

                  1. Dion's would certainly never be mistaken for NY pizza, but it sure is tasty. Saggio's would be closer in style. The really great thing about pizza in New Mexico is that you can have it topped with green chile.

                    1. In New Mexico, I think you can get anything topped with green chile.

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                        1. re: Erich

                          hahahaha, ok, I'm sure there are green chile pancakes somewhere out there, I just haven't seen them yet. ;-)

                          1. re: austinguy

                            Hehehe...actually a great idea. We do swiss cheese in our pancakes and waffles (inspired by Kokomo's in the LA Farmer's Market). Substitue jack cheese and work some chopped green chiles and piñons and you got Southwestern pancakes and waffles. Mmmmmmmm.....

                            So that leaves breakfast cereal without green chile.

                            And back the OP...so if not New Mexican...what kind of Mex?

                            There's Tex, Sonoran, regional, DF gourmet, the varietals are boundless.

                            1. re: austinguy

                              Here's the remnants of a ginormous pancake from K & I Diner, with the telltale smudges and tidbits of a side of carne adovada that was poured over it.... *grin*

                               
                          2. Yes, it IS out there, and it's great for a Saturday brunch!

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                            1. re: don giovanni

                              I lived in Albuquerque for 1 year, and I'm originally from NY Too. l also lived in Las Vegas for 2 years, now I just moved from ABQ 3 weeks ago to Salt Lake City. I did eat at El Patio, the location in Santa Fe, wasn't impressed. I also ate at Sadie's, I love Mexican Food, love the roasted New Mexican Chilies, but that sauce! In my opinion . . . I could do without! Either red or green really doesn't matter to me, all it does (to me) is cover up the food to where all I taste is the sauce and can't taste the food anymore. I thought if I wanted a bowl of chili sauce I would have just ordered that. Of those two restaurants I would pick Sadie's over El Patio. As with Asian, there is a really cool, worth the trip, asian-fusion restaurant in Albuquerque. It's located at the Cottonwood Mall, and called Chow's. http://mychows.com/ The Wasabi Shrimp is their signature dish and it's excellent! Most everything we tried there was excellent, we went there frequently. A very refreshing change for asian cuisine, it's light and fresh, and worth the trip for sure. I really think you'll like this one.

                            2. EL MODELO!!!!!

                              god I'd almost drive the 8 hours to Alb. just for that.

                              1. Any thoughts on the Standard Diner?

                                2 Replies
                                1. re: Molto E

                                  Only "meh" on the food--but the service is excellent. Upscale diner fare is not my favorite, though!

                                  1. re: tokyorosa

                                    Thanks...never been but had seen it recommended

                                2. Two places that haven't been mentioned yet in this post are Sophia's (6313 4th, N.W.., in the North Valley) for ecletic, New Mexican-influenced food, especially good for breakfast and Noda's (2704 Southern Blvd. , Suite 13, Rio Rancho, NM Phone: 505-891-4378) for the best Japanese food you're likely to find in the state.

                                  I've eaten at Sophia's three times in the last month (it's now replaced Garcia's and Flying Star as the family's favorite breakfast spot) and each has been outstanding. The huevos rancheros are the best I've had in Albuquerque, with everything far fresher and lighter than you find in most restaurants in town. The highlight though has been the blue cornmeal pancakes with pistachio butter, fresh berries, and maple syrup, a weekend special. It's rumored that their chipotle bacon cheeseburger is worth killing for, but tonight when we went late they had run out of ground beef so I had to settle for the sirloin with green chile sandwich. The space tiny -- so small that 25 years ago the rumor was that the only way it made money was as a front for the then owner's drug deals -- and occasionally the folks up front get a little overwhelmed, but the food makes up for it. In looking for the address to write this, I came across this recent review which is pretty consistent with my experiences lately (http://www.nmgastronome.com/abq/ameri...).

                                  The other great place (only slightly bigger) is Noda's Japanese restaurant which is in the suburb of Rio Rancho, a 30-40 minute drive from downtown Albuquerque (2704 Southern Blvd. , Suite 13, Rio Rancho, NM Phone: 505-891-4378). Ignore the cinderblock strip mall, you will not be disapointed by either the sushi and sashimi or the traditional japanese food on the rest of the menu. No question it is the best Japanese food in Albuquerque and I think it beats out the fancy Santa Fe spots too.

                                  1 Reply
                                  1. re: kipster

                                    No argument on Noda's, they're the best Japanese around since Minato closed down--but it is a trek for many--and if they get busy? Plan on a wait.

                                    Sophia's? Weeellll. They're hit or miss for me. I don't think the food is all that great, really. The menu is a mash of Japanese/(New-ish)Mexican-Texmex/American diner food that almost but doesn't quite work. And about a month ago, I called around 7:30 p.m. to find out what time they were open until and got the answer, "Until nine. But we're full now, there aren't any empty tables." I asked what time they expected to slow down. (It is a *very* casual, walk-in place, as you know) and got the answer, "Uh. Maybe when we close." I read that as a definite, "We're not interested in your business." So, okay; I haven't been back, because honestly? No matter how full they get, someone is always hustling to find you a table at Garcia's or Flying Star and so I'd rather send my business their way.

                                  2. The two best places to eat in Albuquerque are Cervantes (it is New Mexican food, but the best you will eat.) 5801 Gibson Blvd SE. It is on the corner of San Pedro and Gibson near Sandia AFB.
                                    The other is Trombino's Bistro 5415 Academy Rd NE. Great Italian food.
                                    I lived in Albuquerque for 20 years.
                                    Enjoy

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                                    1. re: Kathy J

                                      Wow, I couldn't disagree more. :-)

                                    2. as an ABQ native now in NY I notice there are now many actual Mexican eateries here, the standout being El Toro Loco on Coors -- the key to recognizing these is the word "Taqueria" -- excellent tacos al pastor and such with very nice fresh salsas. New Mexican has suffered from an invasion of places like Chili's which has influenced some of the local chains which now seem more interested in giant margaritas that distract you from the soy-marinated "fajitas" burned by the anglo teenagers who work there. You almost have to go to a hole in the wall to find the real thing -- place like the Frontier across from UNM. Pizza is dicey. I'd try the Rio Rancho neighborhood which is where New York Italian people live and they likely support something edible.

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                                      1. re: timIam

                                        Grew up spending summers in NY. Giovanni's pizza is great as long as Rosario is there. I've had pies there that were as good as any of dozens that I've had in NY.

                                        1. re: timIam

                                          Venezia's in Rio Rancho on 528 and Sara Road, in the shopping center [with a location on San Mateo also] has really good , NY pizza, almost as good as my long time favorite when I was a New Yorker.

                                          Giovanni's is my second favorite.
                                          Deb