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Il Cielo or The Little Door for a romantic dinner?

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Looking for a romantic place to take my lady this Friday... I like the idea of a heated outdoor patio with lights type of thing.

I've never been to either of these places, but both seem to be what I'm looking for based on reviews.

We're both in our early 20s. In my head I've decided that the crowd at Il Cielo is predominantly 60+. I realize this is insane and probably totally off base.

I'm more concerned with good food and nice atmosphere than it being a hip scene. The problem is we're a devastatingly attractive, youthful couple and would love to be surrounded by the same. Totally joking

Anyway, which do you recommend?

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  1. The Little Door over Il Cielo. The patio at Wilshire (23 & Wilshire) is beautiful, the crowd is mixed (young and old, but perhaps more young from what I could tell). Michael's in Santa Monica has a nice patio. Good luck.

    1. Both are romantic, but food is a better at Il Cielo.

      1. The crowd at Il Cielo isn't 60+, it's 70+! And I've been on evenings when I could swear it was 80+. You've never heard so much talk about great-grandchildren in your life. It does pour on the romantic schtick, though - heart-shaped chcolate cake and the like - where Little Door is just a busy Hollywood place. Both are cuisine-impaired, but the off-menu grilled langoustines at Il Cielo are pretty good.

        1. how about the patio (reserve the patio) at orso's?

          1. Orso is a very good suggestion, very nice patio, and very good food, and definitely less expensive than either of those you suggest.
            Once again, Thank you Jerome!

            1. I made a reservation for Orso... is that the consensus for the best of the 3? Thanks for the input! Very helpful!

              1. Definitely the little door. Il Cielo is romantic, but the little door has better food. have you made a reservation yet though? I imagine both are already booked solid.

                1. After 20+ years in LA and not succumbing to the "romantic allure" of Il Cielo, my husband unfortunately made reservations for Valentine's. I typically steer clear of places with a set menu and a demand for a credit card in advance. He event tried to cancel, but was informed that unless they could resell his spot, he'd be charged. So we show for the early seating in an almost empty restaurant with the first offense being the bus boy whispering in my ear that I couldn't move my chair next to my husband but had to sit across the table from him, which according to him was more romantic. He was concerned that I'd be encroaching on an adjacent chair which remained empty throughout our meal. I finally prevailed. 2nd offense, they remove the wines by the glass menu so people would think they have to order a bottle. The waiter did inform us that all wines by the glass were $12 bucks, but we were forced to order just by varietal. Bread was cold and served without the offer of olive oil or butter. First course, lobster stuffed ravioli..bland and cold. 2nd courses were lamb chops and a veal chop. Meat was tender, but also barely warm. And one dessert to share between us. All for the low, low price of $225. It will be another 20+ years before I return. LA has such great Italian..Locanda, Madeo. This place is all show.

                  1. Neither one.
                    Orso is one of many better options.