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Carnegie Deli or Sarge's?

twobluecats Feb 6, 2007 05:36 PM

We will be staying at the Shelburne Murray Hill at 37th and Lex. I was thinking of having our last lunch during our NYC stay at Carnegie Deli (we've eaten there many times, but dad will be visiting NYC for first time). I noticed that Sarge's is a deli right near our hotel, and I was wondering if this would be a better option for food quality and the feel of a great NYC deli.

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  1. bigmackdaddy RE: twobluecats Feb 6, 2007 05:41 PM

    They both suck. Head over to Katz's on E. Houston two blocks east of Allen (turns into 1st Ave north of Houston) Street, right on the corner of Ludlow.

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      Fydeaux RE: twobluecats Feb 6, 2007 06:52 PM

      By all means, give Sarge's a try. I had a GREAT meal there last November. But Katz's should not be missed if you visit the LES.

      Carnegie is good only if you have never eaten at Sarge's or Katz's.

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        ricky7 RE: Fydeaux Feb 6, 2007 09:28 PM

        forget sarge's. go to carnegie. but the best by far is Katz's. Hands down. though i cant wait till 2nd avenue deli re-opens at their new location.

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          chundi RE: ricky7 Feb 7, 2007 10:37 AM

          where is the new location?

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            RGR RE: chundi Feb 7, 2007 11:38 AM

            If it actually happens, the new location is supposed to be on 33rd St., b/t 3rd & Lex.

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        harrison RE: twobluecats Feb 7, 2007 04:08 AM

        If it's a straight Sarge's vs Carnegie, then go to Sarge's. I'm sure if others chime in, ricky7 will end up in the minority.

        But of course, Katz's will give you a better sandwich every day.

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          Striver RE: harrison Feb 7, 2007 06:24 AM

          Well, on pastrami I'm with Ricky7. Katz's rules, followed by Carnegie. Nothing wrong with Sarge's, but the other two are better. If you're not ordering pastrami, though, I've got no opinion, except that I've never cared for Carnegie's corned beef.

        2. ellenost RE: twobluecats Feb 7, 2007 05:40 AM

          Definitely go to Sarge's for the best deli in Manhattan (I recently went to Katz's after reading so much praise from other Chowhounders; boy, was I ever disappointed: pastrami was flavorful, but definitely not fatty even after requesting fatty (and leaving a generous tip is the bucket $5 for 3 sandwiches). Sarge's has always (more than 15 years) had flavorful and fatty (that is my preference) pastrami. I am soon to move from Murray Hill, but I'll always go to Sarge's for the best pastrami sandwiches.

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            Todd RE: twobluecats Feb 7, 2007 06:20 AM

            Sarge's no question...I can't agree with Katz's being disappointing but if you're staying in the area and you want some great NY deli Sarge's is the way to go...corn beef & pastrami combo sandwich and a souper soup is the perfect meal on a bitter day like today

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              elecsheep9 RE: Todd Feb 7, 2007 06:46 AM

              I think I just gained 3 pounds reading this thread.

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                randumbposter RE: Todd Feb 7, 2007 07:18 AM

                yeah the corn beef and pastrami combo is probably better. The pastrami at Sarge's is tasty but really fatty. I couldn't finish the pastrami sandwich last time.

              2. bigmackdaddy RE: twobluecats Feb 7, 2007 10:43 AM

                Actually, if you want great corned beef and pastrami you should head ovet to the 'hood on Atlantic Ave. and Herkimer on Brooklyn and try David's Brisket House.

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                  Briek RE: twobluecats Feb 7, 2007 11:15 AM

                  If your hotel is in the neighborhood of Sarge's - then I would definitely go there. I used to live in the neighborhood and I would eat there all the time. Their Reuben is so tasty. Their pastrami is also very good (I actually prefer it a littler leaner - and they'll make it lean for you on request).

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                    KRS RE: twobluecats Feb 7, 2007 01:35 PM

                    Sarge's cures its own meats, but that doesn't make them top quality. I went there once, tried the dry corned beef and the boring pastrami and never went back.

                    And I prefer Carnegie's pastrami over Katz's, particularly because I like Russian dressing on it, and Katz's Russian is awful, whereas Carnegie's is great. Plus free pickles.

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                      windycity RE: twobluecats Feb 9, 2007 10:08 AM

                      Sarge's (but I haven't tried Katz's yet.) I used to go to Carnegie but the last time I went, the service was so unbearably rude and a friend of a friend who was visiting from Spain and headed back the next day wound up getting very ill from the food. I was so embarrassed! then I found Sarge's. Carnegie is way overpriced and I will never return, whereas Sarge's is more reasonably priced, with immense portions. Also I love their SuperSoup with matzo balls, which is my favorite coldbuster. Plus you can order one Beef Wellington and be full.

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                        JULIANSORL RE: twobluecats Feb 9, 2007 10:42 AM

                        I think carnegie deli is criminally over-rated.

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                          JULIANSORL RE: twobluecats Feb 9, 2007 10:42 AM

                          btw, Katz's is the best IN MY OPINION.

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                            wriskit RE: JULIANSORL Jul 6, 2008 10:38 PM

                            I ordered a take-out pastrami recently from Sarge's 2 weeks ago. It was humungous in size and even more delicious than the last time I was in the neighborhood. Well worth the price increase from $10 to $12+ . Too much for a sane person so my wife and I each ate half when I got it home and rewarmed the meat. Will definitely do it again.

                          2. jon RE: twobluecats Feb 9, 2007 11:24 AM

                            actually, the best thing that sarge's has is its pastrami wellington. talk about fatty excessive indulgence. it's definitely a belly buster, especially at 3 am. oh, and they will deliver you a single hot dog at any time of the day.

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                              ellenost RE: jon Feb 9, 2007 01:06 PM

                              I love Sarge's pastrami, but what is "pastrami wellington"?

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                                jon RE: ellenost Feb 9, 2007 02:05 PM

                                it's a beef wellington but with pastrami instead of beef. it is incredible.

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                                  ellenost RE: jon Feb 11, 2007 07:35 AM

                                  I'll try it next time I'm at Sarge's. Thanks.

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