Do you tip for take out?
I picked up some pizzas and starters tonight at a new, fairly high end place. Since the bill was $85. I paid with a CC. The waiter hovered over me like he was waiting for a tip. I did not include one, then when I went home and discussed this at the dinner table, got a mixed response. What do you think?
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Hey now!
At high-end restaurants kids get tipped for take-out because they're good looking. However, there are times when actual work is involved. Interaction with the kitchen staff- who may be gnarly hahaha and a fair distance away- along with the collection of condiments etc is a courtesy free of charge to you and I'm sure appreciated by you.
I work at a restaurant where hot looking 18 year old girls wearing a kilt outfit routinely get tipped for take-out cause they're precious hehehehe. But the act of hovering is rude. The gratuity is your choice . I refuse to sit here in judgement. But remember when you always go to the same place, you tend to reap what you sow. heheheThere is an observable tendency.
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I have worked in restaurants on and off all my adult life....for me the worst ...the WORST job in a restaurant was being the person responsible for take out orders...I HATED it.
In the first restaurant I worked - it was the "pantry" persons job, and the owner knew everyone hated doing it, so he rotated the schedule so we could all take turns...about once a month I had to do it, and I DREADED that night.
In the second place I worked where I had to do it, they intro'd me to the restuarant by having me do the take out job....I lasted 2 nights.Anyway, my point is - is that I have much respect for the poor take out person... I completely disagree with someone who posted above thats it is far easier than waitressing a table.
Having said that, I admit, I don't always tip for take out...
If it's more of a restaurant that does take-away, then I will usually tip, but if it's a pizzeria or Chinese take-out, then I don't. -
When you dine in and can't finish your food, the waiter packs it for you and makes it look good despite the fact that it's half eaten. Do they get additional tips for this extra "service" since packing up food is ... oh, so hard to do?
Going by arguments from some of you posters, then you should add an additional 10% to what you were going to tip because the waiter packs up your food for you, bringing the whole tip to 25%-30%. -
Depends on where I'm picking up food from. generally I do though. At my favorite sushi place, their takeout service is really good. They are extremely polite, the hostess has to run to the back to get my order and keep checking on it and still always offers me a coffee if I show up a few minutes early. She always gets 15% on the bill. Usually though, I do 5-10%.
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re: Karl S
;-) I always tip on take out - ESPECIALLY if it is a place that I frequent a lot. They remember this and I tend to get freebies and better service. In fact, at one place, if the cooks see me standing in line to place my order, regardless of how many people are in line ahead of me (this is a place where you order at the counter, sit down, and they bring you your food) they will ask me what I want and start cooking it before I ever get to the register to order. AND they always accommodate my crazy order - extra, extra sauce and shake (herb mixture), fries well done, etc.). Hell, they even come to check on me (they do not have table waiter service) and see if I need more sauce! Even when I bring my own containers for to-go so I don't lose any of their heavenly juice on the way home! However, I do not usually tip as much as when I dine in. Depending on the place, $1-3. I never tip at drive through fast food places.
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For delivery - yes. For someone packing my order (frequently wrong) into a leaky paper or plastic bag & handing it to me after I've driven to the restaurant? No.
Now I've never ordered takeout sushi, but if I did, or if I ordered something similar that required special handling, then yes, I would tip.
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I have this discussion with my friends.
We are all in the service industry. The question of tipping take-out is a dangerous precedents . If i were to tip take-out, it should be the cook that gets the gratuity. It's the cook that is doing all the work. If you like a restaurant, you like it because the chef does a wonderful job of cooking and presentation. The server has nothing to do with the 'brass tax' of food preparation. But we tip the server cause she is cute and it is our custom. Hahaha .
When you get take-out the person taking your order will try to 'guilt' you into tipping because they spoke to you on the phone and they bagged up your stuff. I don't fall for this trick.
People mentioned karma - I don't know why. I don't think they know the meaning of the word. Karma has to do with energy ( good or bad ) that goes with as you reincarnate from one life time to the next.
Basically people have anxieties in their heads. They feel anxious or guilty. They give someone a dollar. The anxiety goes away. I don't live this way.
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re: truegrit99
AS a famous person once said " always over tip the breakfast waitress", makes sense to me; what diffeerence is it going to make to the tipper if one leaves a $5.00 tip on a $10.00 check; but to "the tippee" it could be the difference between a wholesome dinner or a grilled cheese sandwich for some little kid.
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I think this whole reason this debate even exists is due to the accelerating informality of American culture. There was a time when tipping was much more clearly defined; it was an incentive for excellent service. But as our boundaries for these kinds of things fail, it leaves us in the ambiguous area where we find ourselves now.
Because American individuality is revered (by Americans) as being one of the greatest virtues, our society has lost a certain degree of cohesiveness. I don't think it's controversial anymore to say that the things that bind us tend to be corporately manufactured as opposed to being an organic part of our 300 year evolution as a nation.
There are precious little things that we do together in this nation anymore, food or otherwise. Thanksgiving is really one of the few true national meal traditions that we still have left. At most other times of the year, we eat at any time of the day, and eat any food we like, but with Thanksgiving there are a list of unofficial "rules" which most people tend to abide by. But Thanksgiving is most definitely the exception rather than the rule these days.
Similarly, tipping has lost its way, as we now not only tip for those people who have traditionally received them, but we tip now for virtually anyone who puts out a jar. And the "service" argument just doesn't cut it. We don't tip mechanics, we don't tip doctors, we don't tip trash collectors. But these are all people who provide important services to us.
Conversely, the French (for example) have clearly defined boundaries for what constitutes a meal. You eat certain things at breakfast, certain things for lunch, and certain things for dinner, and at very specific times. The 2 hour French lunch is legendary, but a strong part of their culture. There is very little eating going on at other times of the day (though this is changing as Americans and our anything-goes eating habits try to make their way into foreign lands).
That's my $1.25.
Mr Taster
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re: Mr Taster
I actually tip the following
Trash Collectors
Mechanic
UPS/FedEx drivers
Cooks at my favorite local breakfast/lunch place
U.S. Post person,( now a lady)
Landscape workers
Pool service guyAll in the form of a meaningful Christmas Tip. My favorite Dinner house cooks get tips on a regular basis when we bring a group for dinner.
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From EmilyPost.com:
RESTAURANTS:
Wait service (sit down)
15-20% pre-taxWait service (buffet)
10%Host
No obligation
$10-$20 on occasion, if you are a regular patronTake Out
No obligation
0-10% if the person went above normal serviceBartender
$1 per drink or 15-20% or tabTipping jars
No obligation
tip occasionally if you are a regular or if the person went above normal service›4 Replies-
re: austin2112
Interesting that Emily thinks that a person grabbing a glass and splashing some wine into it, then placing it in front of you (or maybe mixing a couple of things over some ice) is deserving of up to 10%, but someone who more than likely packs your order up for you and checks it for accuracy is not deserving of anything. Guess where I am on take out tipping?
I've begun to think that the real difference here is that kitchen help is paid a standard wage, but most servers are paid, by law, a minimal amount in anticipation of tip income adding to that. If the takeout person is not kitchen staff or a host then not tipping is not right. A big problem here is that most people don't want to know. Perhaps takeout people who are paid as servers should wear a badge saying so???
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Tipping for takeout is very much appreciated. I used to work in a BBQ restaurant and I did take out alone. I did not serve so I didn't get tips elsewhere. And I had to cash out the servers checks sometimes too, and there wasn't tipout for us. For most takeout places they may not work that hard but I certainly did many times (if I wasn't busy I was helping in the kitchen or on the serving floor). I always tip takeout if I can. Sometimes, they don't have a spot on credit slips to leave a tip and I rarely carry cash. In that case, I don't tip. I rarely tip less than a dollar for takeout and depending on size of the order I tip higher. I know it felt like a slap in the face sometimes when I would run my butt of for a demanding customer without a tip, or bust out a last minute large catering order without a tip (including laying down towels and loading the order in the car). So for a large order even on takeout... I'd say a tip is easily warranted. Takeout often does more work than it seems and usually doesn't get paid well. Sometimes I was in the kitchen prepping the order, always had to make drinks (including gallons of tea), bag the order, include sauces, condiments, napkins, plasticware, plates, and pretty much anything else people needed or wanted. That being said... I'd say it was right at or a little less than half that would tip on takeout. Most really appreciated the service I gave though so as with anything... if the service sucks than so should their tip. I know people would often tip me the next time they came in because of the service I gave, so I wouldn't have treated a customer poorly over a tip or made it seem they owed it to me. Honestly, I'd say even 10% might be high (though it depends on the level of service). 5% is usually more than sufficient. Personally, I was happy to get a dollar from anyone.
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I tip but not the usual 20%+ I'd tip for a great dinner with service at table, pouring, bringing fresh plates, etc. My rule of thumb is usually about 10%, since it's easy for me to calculate. Also, I do this at places where the takeout meal is put together with care, like my favorite takeout BBQ or Chinese haunts....not in burger drive-thrus where my usual experience is ordering a crispy chicken small fries and getting a somebody else's happy meal thrown in a bag, lukewarm, with no napkins, no straws, no ketchup...
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Absolutely, you give a tip; the person takes their time to assemble your order, often juggling YOUR order with other customers.
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I always tip on pick ups because I feel cheap if I don't. What's a few bucks?
PLus I agree with the others about karma and preferential treatment, even if it is only in my head. I like to know the people at the place, and I want them to know me. There is a difference in the places where I am a recognized regular.
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Should you tip on delivery then, especially when it's paid delivery (5 bucks for delivery, etc...)?
Me personally, i usually tip a small amount on all takeout. Like many posters above, if i have an order that made changes to a regular dish, or requires an unusual amount of work, i leave a larger tip commesurate witht he work.
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To get a little absurd is it reasonable to tip at the drive thru at a McDonalds or Burger King (if I have a really large pain in the butt order)?
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re: Chinon00
I believe McD's and BK and similar places have a policy against tipping.
And at the drive-thru window, it's difficult to tip because who knows who did what. Some voice takes the order, someone at window 1 takes the money, someone at window 2 shoves the stuff out to you but you can see that maybe one or two other people in the vicinity helped with your order, too. And it was the cook staff that really had the biggest pain, most likely, in keeping the pickles off Johnny's burger, mayo and ketchup only on Susie's burger, no onion on Dad's McRib, etc. How ya gonna tip that cook staff for that extra care?
On the other hand, I always tip the carhops at places like Sonic and the few other old fashioned places (like Wheel Inn in Sedalia, MO) that I come across.
And I always tip the pizza delivery dude. And I tip them probably close to 15%, especially when I see they are using their own vehicle for delivery. The cost a resto may add on as a "delivery fee" mostly goes to the driver but I've known guys who did pizza delivery and the money the boss gives them for fuel and maintenence and such really isn't adequate to cover all their costs in running their own vehicle for that work. Besides, I feel my tip helps make up for all the deliveries the dude made that night when he didn't get a tip.
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Yes - as a former waitress I know from exp that take-out orders take time to put together - cartons, tins, bread, salad dressings, etc. - a few extra bucks are def. appreciated.
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re: camikemom
AND, usually, the server that takes your order has to tip OUT on the sales. So taking a take-out order can cost $$$ to do. This might explain why many servers are reluctant to take the order in the first place. It takes time away from their tables in the restaurant. The ones that might be tipping.
All that said, I tip on take-out.
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I don't generally tip for takeout at a basically sit-down corporate-type restaurant but I always tip for takeout at the locally owned sit-down restaurants.
Generally it's in the range of 7.5-10% for me depending on the service rendered.
I'm sure my tipping has resulted in some of my fav places giving me little surprise perks in my bag. Like a little Chinese hole-in-wall where I got takeout two or three times a month. Usually there was a full order of crab rangoon or egg roll included, or maybe a couple of almond cookies along with the standard fortune cookie. One Mexican joint regularly include an order of chips and salsa or sopapillas in with my order.
Granted, I like the perks but the reason I tip is because they are providing me with a particular service and I feel that in the lower level independently owned restro biz where hourly wage is low, it's the right thing for ME to tip those who give me service. I don't make any judgement about anyone else's practice in this matter.
It can get a little tricky if more than one person takes your order, checks your order, packs your order, and rings you up. Normally just cashier service alone isn't reason for me to leave a tip. And I don't feel obligated to tip the cooks as they'd be plating anyhow and plating is plating whether on a plate or in a styro box. But for the one or two (sometimes three people) who might be actively involved otherwise in getting my order prepared and packed, I'll make the effort to hand them each something, even if it's only 50-75 cents.
Not wanting to debate this but just stating how I do it.
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Suburban guide. I tip at those places in my town where the resto is not "normally" in the business of take-out. In those cases they are helping me out, and I normally leave 10%. The Chinese and Sushi restos in my town that thrive on the business I do not tip.
When traveling on business and have work to do in the room, I normally tip as well because I am usually ordering from a downtown resto. My tip is normally in the 10% range.
I agree w Karl S and do not think tipping on take-out is customary and if you do or do not depends on your mood and kindness, not protocol or custom.
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re: orangewasabi
I am a regular take-outer at the Chinese/Sushi place in town and the wait with my neighbors to take out is always five deep. I do not think anyone tips at this resto.
OTOH at the other restos, where being a regular helps a lot, I always tip to keep Jfood on the good list. Quid Pro Quo in action.
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I do, but generally 10% or a bit less. The only thing that bothers me about it is that I'm not quite sure the money goes where it should. With table service, you tip the server directly and they split it with support people as instructed by management. With takeout, I think it should go to the person who takes the order, makes sure it's correct, packages it and gives it to you (with split to the kitchen). I'm never sure that's where it goes, but I do feel better doing it, especially in smaller places and those where I go frequently.
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re: Midlife
I picked up takeout the last two evenings (same place) because my refrigerator was down. I could see the guy assembling the order; that is what he does, assembles both in-house and takeout orders. I could not have physically reached him to give him a tip. If I had given one, I would have had to give it to the girl at the checkout, who did nothing but take my order and accept payment. How about this: I bought what they are selling, and I paid for it, and that's what a retail transaction is. No special service, no taking care of, no kindness, no love & kisses, just business. I am standing with Karl S on this question.
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O.K., Thanks for your thoughts. I really like the idea that a standard order requires no tip, and a special one does. I have more trouble with the concept of standard tipping (10% or more for minimal service) for take-out, but do agree that it would promote a good relationship, whether one returns or not.
I may go back and slip the waiter a little tip, just to ease my mind and so I can return easily. The food was good, the preparation and packing was fine, and they did do a little extra with the order.
Do you tend to think that a higher end place would require a tip and a more casual one not?
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I'm in between. I always tip about 10% on take out for particularly large orders, anything that requires a little bit of time or attention from the waiter. I think that is fair, since large or special orders take up more of a server's time. On single orders, like Janet above, i generally don't tip unless it is obvious that the server is relying on tips for a living (such as in hole-in-the-wall places).
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If someone is doing you a service - tip them. I don't generally tip my 30 + % on take out because of the obvious less time and effort it takes. But, someone is still packaging up my bag, making sure I have proper condiments, accounting for everything that is there..etc. To me, it's just common kindness.
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re: andlulu
Simply not beyond the conventional etiquette rules in this country. Tipping is a convention of etiquette, not kindness. Kindness is measured different. I am not going to look down on anyone for tipping in this situation, or for not tipping. But I will take issue with those who think that those who do not tipping are violating the convention; those folks are wrong.
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re: andlulu
Yes, but not merely. It's consistent with the standard tipping etiquette advice. My point is merely that you don't have objective grounds to think people who follow the standard US tipping convention are cheap or violating the standard. You may think them ungenerous. But that's about it.
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re: andlulu
I think you mean "I may LOSE my little mind."
And little it seems to be.
Karl S is just saying that you go above and beyond the customary tipping standard. It is not customary to tip for take-out.
For take-out, I will usually just round up to the nearest dollar or if it is a big order, to the nearest multiple of 5 dollars. I tip 5-10 percent in places where you place the order at a counter and food is brought to you, and I tip 25-40% at full service places.
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re: batdown
Not really trying to start anything here, but isn't "customary" a highly relative term? Webster's online gives this as one defintion: "a usage or practice common to many or to a particular place or class or habitual with an individual". How many is "many"? Is this a class thing? A place thing?
Not that andlulu needs any defense, but one should be careful before concluding that something they and their circle of acquaintances don't do isn't "customary". There seem to be a rather significant number of posters here who say they do tip 'something' for take-out, at least take-out from full-service restaurants..
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re: Midlife
Hmmm..I think it depends on the situation. If I stop off for a pizza..and the person behind the counter hands it to me when I go in to pick it up, I don't feel the need to tip. After all..where do you draw the line? Should I then tip the person who made the pizza?
On the other hand..if I go in to pick up a pizza and the person behind the counter offers me plates, napkins etc..then chances are I will probably give a tip.
Same think at Dunkin Donuts. I stop most morning to pick up coffee and such for some of my early morning coworkers. If I order 3 or more beverages and the person in the drive through starts handing them to me one at a time..that person is not getting a tip. On the other hand..if they put them in a tray ( you know..what a sensible person would do)..then I give a tip.
Anytime I am in a restaurant whether sit down or take out..and I make special requests..I always reward with a tip.
That being said..tipping is always optional..no matter what..and no waiter should be standing over someone who is picking up takeout expecting a tip. That is rude.
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re: quadbabe
I agree with quadbabe. 30-40%+ is ridiculous. And tipping is not merely a courtesy or good etiquette, it is to make up the pay of someone who gets a reduced rate of pay. In California, restraurants are permitted to pay their waiters or waitresses less than the standard minimum wage because part of their pay is made up by tips (the government normally factors this at about 8%). That's why people who don't tip on a sit down meal really are not just getting bad karma, they are costing the server money, because the IRS automatically factors than they will at least get an 8% tip and that part of their tip will be split with some of the other staff (like the hostess, who usually will handle your take out order).
If I am ordering take out from a sit down restaurant, I tip about 5-10%. If it is a counter where you order food (like Subway, Panda Express, Starbucks, etc.), I do not tip, as those people do not have any reduction in their pay and are paid full minimum wage and often above that. In fact, I hate to see tip jars out anywhere, as they are extremely inappropriate and I never like to feel like someone is beginning me to get a tip.-
re: freddiaschaffer
Actually, in California, restaurants have to pay all the employees the standard state minimum wage regardless of whether they receive tips. See question 5.
http://www.dir.ca.gov/dlse/FAQ_Minimu...However, there are some states where the minimum wage is lower for tipped employees and that's also the case with the federal minimum wage.
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re: andlulu
I worked at McDonald's through high school, making barely more than the waiter's base pay and never received a tip. Trust me, it was hard work, plus I had to wear polyester. I tip if the waiter or waitress packs up the food but not if it's someone who is designated as a take out person at a window.
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re: chowser
The polyester alone deserves a 30% tip! I worked at a Burger King for 6 weeks in high school, and that scratchy brown and orange polyester leisure suit was among my least favorite aspects of the job.
I usually do tip for takeout, but only about 8-10% or so. I figure that it goes into a pool, so someone is being compensated for something.
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re: chowser
You just made laugh out loud. My daughter works for a donut chain and wears a polyester uniform which she detests. She makes student minimum wage but also makes pretty good tips even on drive through. The tips are divided equally and an eight hour shift brings approx. $15-$20. She banks her paychecks and lives off the tips as she has school to pay for next year. I didn't realize people tipped at these types of establishment and now I always tip.
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Tipping on take-out is good karma, and can often result in the restaurant providing you a little extra hospitality if the order isn't completely done when you get there. I know when I'm working I don't expect a tip when I put together a take-out order for someone since the workload is considerably lighter than waiting on a full table. However, when I do get a tip from someone on those, I greatly appreciate it. Usually I tip around 10 percent of the bill on take-out.



















