366428 Wed Jan 31 21:05:15 -0800 2007 10 41 Cookware 0 2248137 This stuff is advertised in the King Arthur catalogue saying it "sells on the market under a famous label" (see http://tinyurl.com/2j5p2r) and looks just like All-Clad, but about half the price. Does anyone have experience using these? I'd love to pick up some high-quality pans for less than All-Clad goes for, but I'd rather buy the real stuff if it's significantly different. Any opinions/first-hand experiences? Wed Jan 31 21:05:15 -0800 2007 65006 bcrall 1 2262264 Cook's Illustrated rated the Gourmet Standard saute pan JUST under the All-Clad. I'm not sure if they're the same because they had different stats, though. Mon Feb 05 14:20:41 -0800 2007 2248137 26410 dotMac 2 4367480 It is fantastic. I have a few sautee pans from them. I cook a lot and know what I'm talking about. I read on the web that they are out of business. True? Wed Jan 28 17:37:52 -0800 2009 2262264 114038 Jgannon87 3 4548570 Sad but true. I'm trying to find some before all stock disappears. I know how good they are. Sun Mar 29 10:07:39 -0700 2009 4367480 40642 yahooer 4 4549244 Try the "famous label" version, perhaps. http://www.fjorn.com/as296240.html Sun Mar 29 15:21:13 -0700 2009 4548570 278068 Politeness 1 4596920 Read page 2 of this pdf document http://www.gourmetstandard.com/Documents/BargainPan.pdf Tue Apr 14 22:43:36 -0700 2009 2248137 277750 krbtv 2 4597066 Good stuff. Cheers for that (I think its worth reading the whole thing) Wed Apr 15 02:30:14 -0700 2009 4596920 180623 Soop 2 4597747 I also thought the article was quite interesting. So interesting I thought I'd check out some online prices. But my (admittedly limited) online search turned up nada. King Arthur Flour's website says the saute pan is no longer available. Are Gourmet Standard products still available? Wed Apr 15 08:32:23 -0700 2009 4596920 49600 CindyJ 3 4597764 Apparantly they're out of business. Best bet I'd say, is find places that used to stock them, and call them up to try and find some old stock. Usually works a treat. I got a discontinuted videogame system (a Sega Multimega) for next to nothing some years back. Well, £80, but it was retailing at nearer £200 a few months before. Wed Apr 15 08:36:56 -0700 2009 4597747 180623 Soop 4 4643192 Walmart has a 10 piece stainless steel set called "Gourmet" by Tramontina. It is fully clad (aluminum goes up the side). Possibly it is the same thing as Gourmet Standard. Make sure you get the one that fully clad instead of just bottom disk. Thu Apr 30 13:39:58 -0700 2009 4597764 277750 krbtv 1 4673499 I found two places that might still have the 8 quart stock pot: 8 quart Tri-ply Stock Pot with lid $125.95 http://www.chinafairinc.com/xcart/customer/home.php?cat=231 Professional Series Tre-Ply 8 Quart Stock Pot with lid $114.99 w/free shipping http://www.cookware.com/asp/keyword.asp?maid=1039&keyword=&command=dosearch 12 quart Stock Pot with lid (look like only bottom has aluminum) $60 http://www.cheftools.com/prodinfo-new.asp?number=X%2D07%2D0465 Mon May 11 10:28:58 -0700 2009 2248137 277750 krbtv