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Jan 31, 2007 06:17 PM

Top Chef 2 Finale, lets get the conversation started (Spoilers inside)!

10 minutes in and I'm already annoyed at this show, this network, and the lacklustre skills and attitude of this season's cheftestants.

Say what you will, I always liked Marcel best of all the chefs, and really hope he wins. If the menu dicussion for his final challenge is any indication, he's truly the more talendted, more creative chef. Ilan is a one trick pony.

Regardless of the outcome, I hope Marcel goes on to great things.

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  1. I am happy to see Mikey back although I haven't seen performance yet...

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    1. re: King of Northern Blvd

      I am sure Marcel wishes Mikey had stayed in Lodi. For a guy who was supposed to be cool and laidback, Mikey was the total non-professional. Frankly, Marcel probably showed poor judgment in picking Mickey, but was encouraged to do so by Sam. Hindsight is 50-50, but I wonder if things would have been different if he had chosen Mia.

    2. Why would you pick Mike or Betty to be on your team?

      As much as I dislike Ilan's tactics in the (lame) game part of this show, the food did look good and it appeared the judges concurred.

      I like Marcel, but the little teaser blowup with Mike being a dumbass, just shows he is about to implode with no managerial/leadership skills.

      Uh oh.

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      1. re: Foureyes137

        I would think picking Mia or Frank you'd get alot of unnecessary baggage with it.

        1. re: King of Northern Blvd

          I agree, depending on who picked them. Marcel was ata slight disadvantage as it seemed at least a few of those people would have presented personality conflicts.

          1. re: Foureyes137

            of course he was at a slight disadvantage. Everyone hated him. Hence the outcome. He is not top "CHEF" material, which must encompass leadership skills and the ability to inspire others. Ilan wasn't much ahead, but at least a little, and thank god the judges recognized this in the end. BTW, I thought someone should have picked Frank over Mike, b/c regardless of his attitude, overall his creations and presentations were superior to Mike's. There's still no reason on this earth to convince me why Sam wasn't in the finals.

            1. re: chefwannab

              Ilan has no leadership skills, except in trying to "lead" others to shave Marcel's head. Would you want someone who wished he could "pee" on someeone else's head to cook your food?

              1. re: Gigigirl2

                Have you ever worked in or near a professional kitchen? I am not defending any lunkhead-ish behavior, but it happens, and the language thrown around is even worse.

      2. The show would not have been the same without the SWEET zoom on the Kenmore Pro oven. How would I have known how the food was heated without it?

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        1. re: Foureyes137

          You mean they didn't use that crappy outdoor kenmore pro kitchen again? I swear I will never, ever buy another kenmore product.

          Love how the judges are all citing that Ilan is refering back to his Spanish background. If ever someone didn't tale a risk, its him. I hope Colicchio calls him on that at judges table.

          1. re: MaspethMaven

            I was hoping for the same thing, and a smirking Tom during tasted made me think he would. Lord knows he's tasted Casa Mono food before. I thought he's call him out, but perhaps he is not allowed?

            1. re: Foureyes137

              i don't think that working within a cultural idiom, like spanish cuisine, is necessarily a hindrance. i get what people are saying, but i don't think that it's a fault to know and cook in an ethnically distinct cuisine. rather, i think the point is that a more mature, experienced chef would do that in this sort of a competition without consciously reminding you of it. i think that if he were a young chef that was from spain, people would be less critical of his devotion to that cuisine. it seems more the point that ilan did a lot of spanish dishes really well, but without much imagination or inspiration.

              on the other hand, marcel's devotion to "molecular gastronomy" was even more myopic and slavish, in my opinion. young chefs doing what they love without mastery, is what i thought of the two. leaving out thoughts on the tv drama head shaving scandalism, because we know what we're in for when we watch these shows, really. which reminds me of why i was rooting for ilan to begin with. i think he's cute. so much for food integrity! if i can't taste the food i'm seeing, what other criteria am i supposed to use...?

              oh. sorry for the digression..where is a top chef that lives in new york and probably rents going to FIT a kenmore pro kitchen provided by sears? and if he can, when he moves to his next teensier apartment, will he have to pack up his knives and his kenmore pro kitchen in gladware and toss it on the street?

              1. re: augustiner

                kenmore pro kitchen coming to ebay very, very soon, he heh

        2. I missed the show until this weekend. I saw a mini marathon leading up to the Hawaii trip.

          I'll go with Marcel.

          I didn't see the first maybe 6 shows. I just don't like anyone on the other team at this point.

          Mike is a PITA, but I think Sam has a decent attitude.

          1. Very interesting so far. I think it's no contest: Ilan takes no risks, basically makes things he makes in his everyday job. Marcel is very creative and takes risks--a true chef. It's a little worrisome that Sam and Mikey are throwing him under the bus at the judges' table as I type....:(