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Tunawookie Jan 26, 2007 02:50 AM

Never been to NYC but I'm craving a NYC style deli sandwich that I see on TV. Yall know...something like the Carnegie deli. Where can I go?

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    snatex RE: Tunawookie Jan 26, 2007 04:39 AM

    The closest you will come is Deli News or Cindy's, but they are light years away from something like Carnegie.

    1. Scagnetti RE: Tunawookie Jan 26, 2007 06:03 AM

      Deli-News is not bad. Try the pastrami on rye and enjoy the half sour pickles. Unfortunately, even in NYC and the surrounding boroughs, the Jewish delis that used to be found in most neighborhoods are long gone.

      http://www.guidelive.com/portal/page?...

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        snowwhiteRN RE: Scagnetti Oct 23, 2007 07:55 AM

        I tried Deli News after a trip up North, but the sandwiches don't compare at all. I couldn't put my finger on what wasn't right (certainly less variety in choices of sandwiches). I may go back and try the pastrami on rye with the pickles as recommended. But if it doesn't measure up again, I won't bring my brother in law there and try to pass it off as a good sandwich.

      2. irodguy RE: Tunawookie Jan 26, 2007 06:19 AM

        Also don't forget Baglestiens, not NY but the owners are from Chicago.

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          Scagnetti RE: irodguy Jan 26, 2007 08:25 AM

          I've never been impressed with Bagelstein's food. They developed a booming business when they first opened because there wasn't anything else around and they still live off of that.

        2. INOVII RE: Tunawookie Feb 5, 2007 02:55 PM

          The Corner Market at lower Greenville and McCommas has great sandwiches and deli case salads. They have a lox @ cream cheese sandwich that is sinful. Great neighborhood feel too.

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            ratatosk RE: Tunawookie Feb 5, 2007 05:49 PM

            The sad fact of the matter is that you can't get pastrami like that in Dallas. However, while pastrami is certainly the #1 NY Deli meat, and Corned Beef is #2, the third NY Deli meat is brisket! Contrary to what you see at a place like the Deli News, or even Gilbert's before they closed, NY Deli meat is not kept behind glass and then sliced to form a sandwich, at least not at the best delis. The meat is pulled dripping from a steamer, succulent and moist, and is hand-sliced and mounded on a sandwich. Sound familiar?

            Now, this may be a little unorthodox, but at the same time it might be worth a try. I'd go to Central Market or Whole Foods and try to get some NY Deli style mustard and a loaf of good Jewish rye bread, sliced for sandwiches. And maybe some pickles. Then head to a nearby BBQ restaurant and get some sliced brisket. You might ask for it to be sliced a little thinner than usual. You actually want less smoke flavour on this than you do on really good BBQ, and the moistness of the meat is key. The brisket they have at the new whole foods on Preston, for instance, is tough and too smoky and would not be right at all. The quality of the brisket at Dickey's seems to vary wildly from location to location, and is never really that great (in my opinion), but the meat from their Forest and Central location (that's just the one I'm most familiar with) should work nicely - moist, and not too smoky. Anyway, spread on a liberal amount of mustard (on both slices), pile high the brisket, and maybe go stand next to traffic while you eat it. It's not Katz's, and not having tried it I can't be sure, but it might be your best bet in Dallas.

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              Kirk RE: ratatosk Feb 5, 2007 08:01 PM

              You're kidding, right? You're suggesting that someone get barbecued brisket and put it on rye bread with mustard to approximate a New York deli sandwich?

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                ratatosk RE: Kirk Feb 6, 2007 03:52 PM

                No, I'm not kidding. The difference between the meat on a sliced brisket sandwich from Katz's, in NYC, or Dave's, in Brooklyn, and the meat they slice at Dickey's isn't that great a leap. They're certainly not the same, don't get me wrong, but I think that BBQ might be a closer match than anything else in the Dallas area, since there are no delis that I know of that smoke and steam their own meats. Pastrami should not be a coldcut.

                The top-notch brisket that you get down in the Texas Hill Country wouldn't work for this - too much smoke, salt, and general BBQ flavour.

                I haven't tried this myself (I live in NYC, so when I get back to Texas I want BBQ, not Pastrami), but I don't think it's so crazy.

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                  hhshames RE: Kirk Oct 23, 2007 03:42 PM

                  Actually that is pretty accurate. The smoke will be a little off, as it should have different spices, but the texture and cut of meat is correct. Not Katz's or second ave. deli (which sadly closed) , but you're not gonna find that here. My husband and I were just having that discussion.

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                harrison RE: Tunawookie Feb 5, 2007 05:58 PM

                And if any of you visit us here in NY, promise me you'll stay far away from the Carnegie and go straight to Katz's.

                You can order meat from Katz's web site.

                And I did happen to eat at Gilberts once when I was in Dallas on business. It was better than I anticipated, but mediocre at best

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                  buck RE: Tunawookie Feb 6, 2007 11:53 AM

                  Carshons, Carshons, Carshons!

                  It's been in FW 80 years. Great matzoh ball soup and thick corned-beef or pastrami sandwiches.

                  Lunch only Mon-Sat. But worth the trip, if only for the chocolate meringue pie.

                  http://www.carshons.com/

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                    Scott RE: Tunawookie Feb 6, 2007 12:03 PM

                    Here's the question before the question. Are there any delis in this metro area of 6 million that make their own corned beef or pastrami?

                    Scott

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                      Kirk RE: Scott Feb 6, 2007 02:11 PM

                      If there is, it's news to me. I'd love to find one that does.

                    2. twinwillow RE: Tunawookie Oct 30, 2007 11:51 PM

                      Oh, please. Don't dare tell me that brisket from Dickey's is the closest thing to Katz's in NY!
                      That's blasphemy to this long time Dallas resident originally from NY.
                      And, IMHO,the Forest Lane location of Dickey's is the WORST of the chain to boot.
                      I get my pastrami fix at Deli News at Campbell and Preston. I also love their (imported from NY) Nova lox and sturgeon platters.
                      Other than that, nothing in Dallas comes close to the Deli's in NYC. Katz's, being number 1.

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