Tipping for Wine? [Moved from General Topics]
- CocoDan Jan 25, 2007 07:46 AM
I know it's a subject that has been beaten to death, but I'd like to hear opinions of others who order bottles of wine with dinner. Do you consider the tip differently for the wine than for the food? I've always been told that a flat $5.00 or $10.00 per bottle, depending on the price of the wine. I'm sure a server might not agree with this thinking. All that said, I usually tip 20% on the total bill, even for so-so service. Am I an idiot?
I don't subscribe to this thinking...but I have a friend who used to work in the restaurant industry and she told me that you are not supposed to tip on the alcohol on a dinner bill. I was very surprised when she told me this...it doesn't seem right. Maybe because restaurants totally mark-up the price of alcohol? Don't know. Although I have been to several restaurants where the alcohol is separated from the food on the bill...and they show the total food cost and the total alcohol cost. I still tip on the entire cost of the bill.
At non-high end restaurants, servers generally tip out a portion of their tips to buspeople and hosts; they make their tip-out based upon overall sales, rather than food sales and alcohol sales separately. So, if you're bottle of wine is 50 bucks, and you tip 5 on it, essentially the server is at a loss. Just something to think about. I know that it takes them no extra effort or work to bring and open wine, but conversely, they shouldn't be penalized because you order a bottle of wine rather than 50 dollars worth of food on which you would tip.
Basic rule: You tip on the pre-tax amount, including alcohol, unless you had a sommelier or wine steward advising and handling the wine, in which case you tip that person separately. There are dozens of older threads that discuss particular variations, which you might want to read if you are interested as a lot of Hounds don't pipe up for FAQs like this.
if the wine bill is over 100.00 just ask for two checks-one for the food(20percent tip more or less depending on the service) and 10 percent on the wine - learned that in Belguim - good idea,non?