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alleycat81 Jan 17, 2007 03:42 AM

I live in Toronto, Canada. The big, grocery store chains I usually shop at only carry up to "whipping cream". I used this in a recipe, thinking the lack of a few percentages of milk fat will not be a big deal. My recipe turned out to be a little more runny than it should have been and so it's got me thinking that it's because I used "whipping cream" as opposed to "heavy cream". Does heavy cream have to be bought at specialty food stores? And if so, which one?

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    erly Mar 1, 2007 05:09 AM

    I keep the cream in my fridge and let it age.
    It works best and whips best just before the bite date.
    I agree that these bottlede clotted, devonshire, etc. don't taste the same here.
    I get a bit of a "chemical" taste, possibly the preservatives.

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      cityhearts Jan 18, 2007 12:57 AM

      Clotted cream is something else again, neither double cream or heavy cream and there is NO point in getting the Canadian version. Say what you will about English food but their dairy products are a world apart from ours...my aunt still has it delivered to her door everyday!

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        FlavoursGal Jan 18, 2007 01:04 AM

        I could be mistaken, cityhearts, but I believe the Devon (or Devonshire) cream sold at Loblaw's is imported from England.

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          Scruncheons Feb 28, 2007 08:25 AM

          and it's gooooood.

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          GourmandGirl Nov 1, 2007 08:08 AM

          Real clotted cream is "cooked" but not pasteurized. Fresh milk is left at room temperature for 12 hours or so and then gently, very gently heated, reducing the water content.

          The Devon cream sold in stores in Canada is not clotted. It's double cream. BIG difference.

        3. shana Jan 17, 2007 08:42 PM

          yes the brits have this lovely heavy cream - it's thick like a runny custard really - my friend in london buys hers at the local grocery and serves it over berries or poured over cakes. Never seen anything like it in Canada. Maybe the double cream with 40% butterfat listed above is the equilivant??

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            embee Jan 17, 2007 09:07 PM

            Yes in richness, but not even close in flavour. If you take the fridge chill off the double cream and stir it, it will pour. But I think you'll be at least somewhat disappointed.

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              FlavoursGal Jan 17, 2007 09:52 PM

              My sister lived on-and-off in London years ago, and fell in love with clotted cream, which is what I suppose you're referring to.

              Afternoon tea is served with clotted cream alongside the scones.

              I've seen tiny jars of "Devon Cream," which I believe is clotted cream, for sale in the dairy case at Loblaw's. Very expensive, very high in butterfat, very tempting...

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                embee Jan 17, 2007 10:15 PM

                Anyone up for comparing the two? I've tried this clotted cream in the past and found it quite disappointing. Perhaps it's too pasteurized for the flavour nuances to come through. But I've outgrown my pants over the holiday season, so this isn't the right moment for me to do a butterfat tasting :-)

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                  FlavoursGal Jan 17, 2007 10:20 PM

                  I've walked by the Devon Cream hundreds of times over the past number of years. I refuse to try it for fear I WILL like it.

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                    kerwintoronto Feb 28, 2007 11:37 AM

                    IMHO the 'Devon Cream' from Loblaw's is but a sad shadow of clotted cream I have had in London. The 'DC' is on an near footing in terms of richness but the flavour doesn't quite come across.

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                      FlavoursGal Feb 28, 2007 04:14 PM

                      Loblaw's sells two types of Devon cream (at the Forest Hill location, anyway). One has the Loblaws label and is made in Canada, and the other is imported from England, made by The Devon Cream Company; it's called "Double Devon Cream" (it's 48% m.f.).

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                Scruncheons Jan 17, 2007 04:15 PM

                I tend to use a lot of English recipes, which call for heavy cream. I consistently use good old North American whipping cream, and I consistently have no problems ....

                1. HarryLloyd Jan 17, 2007 02:50 PM

                  What were you trying to make?

                  Milk Fat is very important when it comes to baking. there is a delicate chemical balance of acids and bases. you need to either get a recipe that uses 35% or reduce "our" whipping cream until it hits 40%. the math: reduce 1l of 35% to become 875ml of 40%. or you could head to the border and try and smuggle some back ;)

                  (or if you really understand the science you could mess with the baking soda/baking powder volume to get it right)

                  good luck.

                  Chow!
                  HL.

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                    alleycat81 Jan 17, 2007 10:20 PM

                    I was following a recipe for a veal dish with a "creamy mushroom sauce". The sauce turned out to be thinner and runnier than expected and so I attributed to the fact that I couldn't find any "heavy cream" (at least 36% milk fat) and substituted with "whipping cream" (35% milk fat). The recipe didn't call for any flour which convinced me more that I should've really used "heavy cream". I ended up adding flour or cornstarch (I forgot which) to thicken it. And so this peaked my interest in seeking out "heavy cream" because I've always seen the grocery-chains only carry up to "whippping cream".

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                      embee Jan 17, 2007 10:24 PM

                      The 35% whipping cream should have been fine. I assume you had UHT cream. Another possibility: the recipe was flawed and used too much liquid. If you reduce 35% cream enough, it will thicken eventually.

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                    embee Jan 17, 2007 02:39 PM

                    Terminology issue here...

                    "Heavy cream" is the US term for "whipping cream". Canadian 35% butterfat whipping cream is the closest match.

                    Most cream sold in Canada is UHT Pasteurized and contains additives to counteract damage caused by the heating process. The results are less than stellar and the taste is also affected.

                    If you can get Hewitts brand whipping cream, I think you will find that it both whips and tastes better than the standard supermarket variety. This is true even if the Hewitts cream has only 32% butterfat, so I don't think the fat percentage is the cause. (Most high end and natural food stores have it.) Failing that, look for an organic brand that contains cream, and possibly milk, as its ONLY ingredients and that is not UHT.

                    There is also "double cream", which is sometimes available at Loblaws. This is usually 40%. It is thicker than whipping cream and can be stirred into many recipes and cooked to thicken. It doesn't really whip, though.

                    Finally, there is creme fraiche, which you can also stir into your recipe. It is tangier and tastes very delicious, but it also doesn't whip well.

                    My opinion: if you need whipped cream, go for Hewitts; for a thickened cream sauce, go for double cream or creme fraiche.

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                      Darkstar1955 Jan 10, 2010 09:25 PM

                      Clotted cream 55% and heat treated Served as it is with scones, jam etc.
                      Double Cream 48% Whips the easiest and thickest for puddings and desserts.
                      Heavy Cream (36% or more) Also a whipping cream
                      Whipping cream 35% Whips well but lighter, can be piped and has been whipped Decorations on cakes and gâteaux (Sponge cake).
                      Sterilized cream 23% is sterilized
                      Cream or single cream 18% is not sterilized Poured over puddings, used in coffee
                      Sterilized half cream 12% is sterilized
                      Half cream 12% is not sterilized Used in coffee, some cocktails

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                        embee Jan 11, 2010 06:27 AM

                        Where are you located and from where does this info come? I'm curious, because the available products I've seen in Toronto are completely different.

                        Clotted cream: not made locally - imported from England sterilized, in jars, tastes nothing like the "real thing"

                        Double cream: made by Western Creamery for Loblaw's - thick, and nearly solid if not stirred. Doesn't whip well and doesn't need whipping to use as a topping

                        Heavy cream: I've never seen it for sale

                        Whipping cream: 32-35% depending on brand - most brands (including organic) are UHT

                        Sterilized cream: refers to either tetra packed or canned cream or to individual UHT creamers for foodservice - it's a packaging term with no specific butterfat level implied

                        Cream or single cream: I've never seen for sale

                        Coffee cream or table cream: 18% - most brands are UHT

                        Half-&-Half: 10% - most brands are UHT

                        Light cream: 5% - UHT

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                      FlavoursGal Jan 17, 2007 02:06 PM

                      As far as I know, the term "heavy cream" is not used in Canada. I've always used whipping cream (35%) when heavy cream has been called for, with no problems.

                      On the other hand, if your whipping cream was the yucky ultra-pasteurized version, I'd be more prone to blaming your problem on this than on the cream's butterfat content.

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                        jcanncuk Jan 17, 2007 01:49 PM

                        Try Whole Foods - bet they will have "real" heavy cream.

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                          Abbeshay Nov 2, 2007 01:13 PM

                          Yes, but it's expensive, so, of course, I bought some. It comes in a small glass bottle which I've kept for keeping regular milk very cold in the fridge. By the way, I bought some of the whole milk in the glass bottles there and was surprised by a layer of cream on the surface when I got home!

                        2. Leslieville Jan 17, 2007 01:46 PM

                          What went wrong with the recipe is that he used whipping cream (30-36% fat) instead of heavy cream (40% fat). The question is, where can he find heavy cream. You can check at your grocery for heavy whipping cream which will be 40% also. perhaps the dairy manager can help you with this.

                          1. Quine Jan 17, 2007 03:48 AM

                            Whipping cream is "lighter" than heavy cream but liquid is liquid...as in a cup (or any portion of such)is still a cup.

                            Maybe you can post the recipe and tell us what went wrong?

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                              DockPotato Nov 1, 2007 02:00 PM

                              Milk used to be delivered in bottles with the cream separated at the top. That top layer was often "raided" for cooking.

                              What exactly were cooks of that time skimming? How much BF and how thick?

                              Is non-homogenized milk still available?

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                                murpho Nov 2, 2007 12:59 PM

                                I used to love licking the thick cream off our milk bottles. I had to fight my sisters for it though. Wish milk still came in bottles... Much more environmentally friendly.

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